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Why doesn't America have a decent RPG formula like Japan does?

I'm not a Japanophile who will zealously defend Japanese RPG while denouncing anything western, but the state of western RPG is absolutely pathetic.

Why is it that Japan can have RPG targeted towards hardcore audiences that DOESN'T rely on raunchy toilet humor, and casual gameplay, while America can't do it?

Besides a few gems like Skyrim, the first few Fallout series, etc... The U.S. RPG are either "LOLSORANDOM" poorly drawn crap for kids(i.E. BORDERLANDS), or "lets be as stupid and raunchy as possible!" for adults, like Borderlands 2, and that new game Mass Effect 3... Seriously, don't get me started on that piece of shit.

Anyways, obviously we have a few gems, but even then they are for "kids," and anything for adults has no shading, simple art/formula, and is just silly comedy fodder.

Why can't we have RPG that transcends those confines? Why can't we have serious RPG for adults that does not rely on half-assed comedy?

Yes, a good chunk of the games that come out each season are utter garbage, but they still have a lot more gems. and originality than the U.S. can manage.

Why do you think our RPG is stuck in such a sorry state? Why is RPG automatically stigmatized as being for children? Why can't we get RPG for adults that isn't CAWL OF DOOTY or LE MINECRAFT XD, or any of the Bioware garbage?

I'll give us credit for TES, and Dark Souls, but so much of it is just unforgivable.

inb4 "cry more, tl;dr, don't bitch, etc, etch."
Pic related, one of our rare gems
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Skyrim is a gem? I thought that was a very weak game.
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>>158090280
>Skyrim not a gem
Take off the nostalgia goggles, kid.
It may have not beent he best in the series, but it isn't bad either.
Especially if you use mods.
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>Witcher is American

Wat
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Skyrim sucks, OP
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>>158090373
That shit is still not a gem, it's pure generic crap
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>>158090373
The only really good thing it has is the big open world. But it's no fun to swim in a huge pool when it's only 10 cm deep.
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>I'll give us credit for TES, and Dark Souls, but so much of it is just unforgivable.
>Witcher pic
Both of those aren't American RPGs you retarded tripfag. Why the fuck am I even responding?
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There are plenty of good WRPGs that don't rely solely on raunchy humor or LOLSORANDUMB.

Alpha Protocol is arguably one of the more imaginative RPGs of late, with a focus on timing your conversation rather than just waiting for the other person to stop talking, Mask of the Betrayer is more or less Planescape Torment 2, New Vegas was far from raunchy, and Dragon Age: Origins had it's moments.

Also, why on earth are you trying to use Borderlands as an example of an RPG? It's nothing more than an action game with a few numbers attached that has no pretense of roleplay or serious storytelling.
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>DOESN'T rely on raunchy toilet humor, and casual gameplay
yeah cause the persona games aren't like that at all
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>skyrim

0/10, I hope you didn't seriously believe that hiding it inside a wall of text makes it any less obvious.
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>Dark Souls
>Witcher
>American RPGs
Pick one

>Borderlands 2
>RPG
It's an FPS with RPG elements tacked on it.
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>>158090819

>persona
>casual
>implying the magic table won't fuck your shit in unless you've grinded for 200 hours
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>Dark Souls
>Western
>Skyrim
>Good
>Bethesda
>Good

Nice and subtle, OP. I'll give you a 7/10
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>Dark Souls
>Western
Oh look, a new tripfag to filter
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>inb4 massive autism shitstorm
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>>158089732 (OP)
>Besides a few gems like Skyrim

Are you fucking serious? Skyrim is a PICTURE PERFECT example of the disgusting state of the video game industry.
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If a game has no humor and tries to be serious, it's grimdark bullshit nofunallowed.
If a game tries to be humorous, it's LOLXDSOFAHNNY

there's no pleasing anyone. Plus loads of JRPGs rely on raunchy humor.
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In case you haven't noticed, OP has stopped posting. He's stirring shit up and this is most definitely a troll thread.

>King Bumi !t/BUMI/qrI
Oh, you're that retarded tripfag again.
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>america
>not decent rpg formula
Japanese games tend to be my favourite, by my favourite game is american and is the best rpg out there: Vtm Bloodlines.
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>witcher
>american

look at this fool.
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>tripfag
>needs standardized chinese games

>boredomlands
>rpg

I can't find that copypasta for some reason.
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Sorry, went to Gamestop to buy some shit
Anyways, let the discussion continue~

Also, at all the people saying Dark Souls wasn't an american WRP, it was released in america dickbutts
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>People honestly thinking Demon's and Dark Souls isn't Japan's take on a western style rpg
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>>158089732 (OP)
Japan doesn't have decent rpg formula. In fact they don't have rpg formula at all. JRPGs are not RPGs, with some exceptions, they are statbased wargames, stat based real time strategy games or stat based action games.
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>>158090373
>>158090617
>first guy trelling about skyrim being good
>second guy responding seriously
sorry, i thought i was on /v/
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>wanting formulas
It truly is sad times for vidya
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>>158089732 (OP)
0/10
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America used to have fucking awesome RPGs, just look at Gothic 1 and 2
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>Besides a few gems like Skyrim
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i need that one guy who says jrpg is a term for rpgs made in the east in general and poland is in eastern europe therefore witcher is a jrpg
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>>158096309
i think you meant divinity 2 or mountain blade
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>>158096494
holy shit

I'm totally blanking. What is this from?
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>>158096309
Gothic is german you faggot.
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>>158096494
This is now funny gifs thread.
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>Skyrim

Nigger, please play the Gothic series and stop being a bitch.
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>Besides a few gems like Skyrim

Stopped reading, you completely went up against your very own argument.
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>>158089732 (OP)
>that entire post
Jolly well done OP, 7/10
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>this thread will last longer than legitimate ones
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>>158097792
>so I bump it

Good one.
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>>158089732 (OP)
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