No, get a better game.

>>137785392
One bump, nothing more.

If you like Metal, Tim Schaefer and/or Jack Black, then yes.

If not, I dunno.

>>137785608

What video game would Johnny Cash suggest?

Depends on how much you like classic heavy metal and how much Jack Black you can tolerate. Put it this way, if Tim Curry chasing you through Rob Halford's collapsing, hair metal themed, castle in a rocket powered car blasting out Dragonforce appeals then you'll love it. I did

>>137785760

>>137785760
Bayonetta

>>137785893

Love it.

>>137785608
Like what?

It's really cheap and seems fun for one playthrough or two.

>>137785652
I THINK I like Metal, depends on what metal you mean.

And I love Tim Schaefer, Jack Black is alright.

>>137785785
You sold me Sir.

Thank you.

>>137785760
>Jack Black

Well, there isnt all that much Jack Black to "tolerate". He did some really bad shit, but Brutal Legend isnt part of it.

First things first
There's metal and a bunch of it
Speaking as someone who's more partial to punk rock, I can safely say the soundtrack to this game is pretty fucking sweet.

The Double-Fine humor is there.
The sidequests are kinda bleh but they're optional
Story is fun
I personally loved the RTS-style action
If you know what you're getting into, its great, most peoples' problems with the game was that they didn't know what they were getting into.

Blame the demo. Probably not Double-Fines fault.

>>137786016
The soundtrack is pretty varied and theres a good mix of metal subgenres. Have a look:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%BCtal_Legend#Soundtrack

>>137785652
This, that being said... DECAPITATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!

>>137786405
Well I know that it's a RTS, I looked it up since I discussed the game with a mate a few days ago, he got annoyed as hell on the RTS aspect and I said I had no idea what he was talking about.

Looked at the units that existed, the game seemed fun and it's cheap where I love so I thought I'd give it a go, but it's always good to hear /v/s opinion on it first.

>>137786540
Now that's impressive! I think I'll like this game!

>>137786016
>I THINK I like Metal, depends on what metal you mean.

Any of it, but Classic mostly. Just look at the Soundtrack, there is something for everyone, I think.

Gameplay isnt all that great, unless you really enjoy that RTS-Action mix they were going for. But I think the Metal setting alone is worth playing the game. Just look at all the voice actors they got: Ronnie James Dio, Lemmy, Rob Halford, Ozzy Osbourne, Lita Ford, Tim Curry...

>>137786092
Jack Black just bugs me, he's done some good stuff that's true but something about him grates on my nerves

The driving is pretty much fucking awful. Duke Nukem Forever had better driving. The art is decent. The soundtrack wasn't bad, and neither were the voice actors. Aside from the god-awful driving and the pretty tame RTS portions, it was an average game. Nothing to write home about.

>2012
>Listening to Metal.

i greatly enjoyed it, and it is the only game i have played recently that i have repplayed. (the replay value might not be that great, but i enjoyed the setting, scenery and feel of the game enough to justify it all.

if the game had had an extra 3,3 million in funding, going towards a bit more actuall content at the end of the game, (it feels a bit tutorialy thougout) it would make my top 10 of all time.

not flawless, but recomended.

>>137787306
It was literally cut in half because EA wanted it to rush it out.

Man those cameos

>We have to take her to the Kill Master
>It's Lemmy Kilmaster
>MFW

>>137787209
>2012
>You're a bitch

>>137787062

>The driving is pretty much fucking awful.

What the fuck are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with the driving.

>>137786749
R.J.Diio was a rumor during the last year of production, and AFAIK, he is not in the game as an actor (but he has his voice on the soundtrack, and we all know we love it)

>>137786016
>I THINK I like Metal, depends on what metal you mean.

The bands you'll hear most in this game are Motorhead, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath and older stuff like that. I've even discovered some new good bands because of this game, like Brocas Helm.

And the gameplay itself is actually really fun, you can ride on Motorcycle-boars and send lightnings from your guitar to make people explode and shit.

Also, dat Ophelia.

>>137785392
fucking awesome game, but it felt short and has a cliff hanger ending (lol cancelled sequel)

i swear if i ever meet one of the fuckers responsible for cancelling that shit, i swear i will kick the fucker square in the twat

>>137786540
wow
that soundtrack is surprisingly good!

>>137788002
It's EA, we'll never see another sequal unless another kickstarter I'd guess.

Also, is the DLC worth it?

>>137787785
Damn, you're right!

I remember now! Didnt he quit the project because Ozzy got onboard? Or vice versa, Ozzy threatened to quit because of Dio?

>>137786540
>Budgie, Riot, Judas Priest, Coroner, Saxon

holy shit, is there a soundtrack of the year this shouldve won?

>mfw I got to the RTS part

3.3 million dollars

>>137787785
Wasn't a rumour dude he was cast as Doviculus before being replaced by Tim Curry:

http://kotaku.com/5291718/tim-schafer-explains-why-dios-out-of-brutal-legend-tim-currys-in

>>137788378
IMO Tim Curry was the better choice.

>>137788190
>mfw there's only like 5 missions with that
Calling Brutal Legend an RTS game is like calling San Andreas an airplane flying game

>that feel when half the game was missing because EA wanted to tack a fucking sequel onto it

>>137788527

I fucking loved Tim Curry as Doviculus, but I just couldn't get the image of Nigel Thornberry out of my head whenever he spoke.

>>137788615

>EA wanted to tack a fucking sequel onto it

No they didn't. Or they did and canceled it because it didn't sell to their expectations.

The game is fun as fuck and if you play the battles right, they're the best part by far.

The problem is that most people didn't, because the game did a godawful job of explaining them.

Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2DFfk2MVc

That's what the battles play like when done right. If that looks fun, then you'll enjoy the game. If not, then it's probably just not for you, but people saying it's a bad game because of the RTS parts are simply not correct.

>>137788102
EA was kinda the lesser of 2 evils here though, because activision was intent on making the game a part of the guitar hero franchise, and turn it away from beeing a memorable game with shortcoming, to a forgetable game (most likely with shortcomings)

>>137787842
Wasteland 2 looks good, mate.

>>137788647
>>137788527
They really missed a trick by not having him sing Sweet Transvestite before the final fight

>>137788557
Fuck outta here, Brutal Legend is console babbie's first RTS and even at that it's shit.

Brutal Legend should have been an action adventure game, it would have been much better.

Even as not that big of a fan of metal musically I thought the setting and so forth was pretty fun. The thing that killed it is the RTS bits.

OP I honestly regret buying it and I never even finished it. It changed my perception of Tim as a developer and made me realize he's really not that great.

Though Costume Quest, Stacking, and his other shit didn't help that either.

I got it for $8 on amazon the other week. It's pretty good. Unless you plan on finding all the collectibles, it will probably be pretty short though.

Ozzy put out the best performance
Halford was pretty funny and an interesting character choice
Lemmy was just going through the motions

>>137788842
I doubt he would. Considering his experiences with the Rocky Horror fanbase.

>>137788748

Yes, they did.

This is fucking EA we're talking about. If they can't put twenty sequels over it, they don't even fund it.

>>137788936
>console babbie's first RTS and even at that it's shit.

Except that's not true at all, the game plays barely anything like any other RTS game. To call it 'babby's first RTS' is to completely ignore all the mechanics and gameplay the game has available that traditional RTS games don't. Sure, if you play it purely by commanding troops and never get involved in the battle yourself, I can see why you'd think that. But that wasn't the point at all.

I loved Brutal Legend, but I feel like it missed a couple marks. The way the game starts, up until the Spider Queen, you're almost expecting a Zelda-like game with driving and metal, complete with songs that you can play to interact with the environment and everything.

Then it sort of takes a turn to the RTS side of things, and while they are great on their own, I don't feel like the last 80% of the game should've been
>drive to battle
>have battle
>drive to next battle
>recruit a new troop along the way
>continue driving to next battle

And so on. It would've been great to have sprinklings of things like what the first couple of boss fights were. It's a great game, and you should buy it, but I grit my teeth at EA for collapsing this game into a mere memory of what could have been.

>>137788748
Well, it didnt sell very well, thats true.

Yet it still amazes me EA green lighted the game in the first place.

>>137786016
see you in 8 hours

>>137789325
They thought it would compete with Guitar Hero.

>>137788842

Having Judas Priest as the final boss fight music was arguably the much better option.

>>137789065
Oh come on, it wasn't like that. Activision was going to ax the game because Tim Schaffer can't into money management and deadlines. EA may have been responsible for the map packs/costumes but you're just demonizing them for no reason.

Don't get me wrong, EA is pure evil, it's just that in this case they were the lesser of 3 evils (EA, Schaffer/Double FIIIIIINE, Activision)

I really liked it. The more you like metal, the better the game is. It had a damn great soundtrack.
And honestly, the RTS stuff wasn't nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be, unless you're some diehard comp RTS player.

>>137789490
>2012
>Liking Metal.

>>137789208
I agree with you but honestly, Zelda games do that shit all the time too. If you think of stage battles as analogous to dungeons in Zelda games (which they pretty much were) then you could make the exact same complaint about Ocarina of Time.

I think the game's bigger problem was that its story completely collapsed on itself two thirds of the way through and ended in the middle of nowhere. There was no triumphant march into the demon lands and battles to push Doviculus and his army back through them, it was just... One shitty pseudo-battle, one shitty boss fight, and that was it.

Huge, huge disappointment. Fuck EA for rushing this game out and spending more money than was spent on its development on fucking marketing.

I wish they were able to get some Iron Maiden songs.

>>137789432

EA buried the entire RTS element in the marketing, basically hid the multiplayer portion (which is hilarious today since they put MP faggotry into everything now) and basically cut the entire third act of the game out of production.

>>137789207

The problem with getting involved in the RTS sections is that at first, you will die a lot. Because chances are you didn't seek out the song monoliths or whatever they're called to learn new solos to use in combat. I can see how this would make a lot of people realize "maybe I shouldn't be getting involved, and I should just command troops from above to avoid getting killed and losing fans".

You're supposed to get involved, but until you upgrade yourself, you're going to feel like you're made of paper.

>>137789490
The thing about the battles was more that they weren't mentioned at all in the marketing and the game was advertised as a much more casual game than it ended up being. People bought it not expecting to have to actually think and plan, and when they suddenly found that they did have to, they were thrown by it. I think if some battle footage had been shown in the marketing and it had been known that this was what the game would ramp up to, people would have taken to it so much better.

>>137789649
>2012
>not liking metal

It has begun!
This is the final form of this thread. It was unavoidable, let's get on with it!

Yes. The soundtrack is great, the art/designs are awesome and you can drive a fire spewing hotrod that shoots rockets and lightning over giant rock fists while on your way to hang out with Ozzy Osbourne off whom you'll buy a blood soaked battle axe to smack Tim Curry with.

>>137789725
they had Angel Witch

close enough right?

>>137789767

The multiplayer actually had potential because each faction really did play differently. I must say Double Fine really pulled quite an ace with how uniquely Doviculus's troops work.

Too bad the only multiplayer that existed was trying to play a console RTS on a console.

>I'd get moving if I were you

>>137790095

>trying to play an RTS on a console

I can type.

>>137788936
Are you saying Costume Quest and Stacking are bad?

Also, Schafer had nothing to with those, nothing at all, they were done by small teams in DF.

>>137789725
That would have been awesome. Stranger in a Strange land would have been perfect.

>>137788984
>Considering his experiences with the Rocky Horror fanbase.

Care to elaborate?

Anyone who thinks the RTS in the game was just a casualized version of every PC RTS needs to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgGKTFKe7Ts&feature=related

When you have a fight between two people who know what they're doing it's both strategic as fuck, and nothing like a typical RTS in playstyle. The fact that you're playing as a commander who can smite enemies yourself and drive or ride any of the units you make and manually use a souped-up version of their attack makes the game absolutely worlds apart from Age of Empires or anything else.

>>137790095
I dunno, I think the gameplay worked pretty damn well for a console RTS. This style of RTS is definitely a million times more feasible with a controller than a traditional RTS game. I still hope they put out a PC version eventually though.

>>137789663

The problem with comparing Zelda dungeons to Brutal Legend stage battles is that most of the time Zelda dungeons have some unique quirk or a new gameplay element to introduce. Granted they all follow a specific formula, but the stage battles feel very monotonous on the whole. The only one that felt truly unique and involved was the final one against Doviculus.

>>137790139

The inclusion of Brian Posehn and yet not having Red Fang anywhere on the soundtrack confused the fuck out of me. Maybe they just released their first album a little too late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VufilzHKTqk

>>137788615
I read some thing where Tim Schafer was all ready to start making a sequel and thought that was the plan until they told him not to. I didn't know they actually hindered the first game.

>>137790753

Hindered? They fucking crippled it with a baseball bat.

>>137789725
they were looking for Iron Maiden but royalties yelled louder they wanted an gorillon dollars to put the Iron Maiden songs in the game

>>137790643
>Red Fang

I'm gonna see the fuckers live May 1st. They better not disappoint!

>>137790376
Obsessive fans hounding him in public. Going through his garbage. That kind of shit.

>>137790485
I dunno, there's so much potential with the mechanics that each battle can easily play very differently from each other one. Depending on what troops you build, what you do with them, what you do with yourself, when you decide to upgrade stuff, and so on, there's a lot of potential for variety unless you intentionally just use the same strategy over and over.

The fight with Doviculus was godawful though IMO, considering the monster could spawn anything it liked anywhere in the battlefield and you had no way to stop it or know what it was going to do, there wasn't really any payoff to your decisions or strategy you could employ other than 'rush the things as quick as possible'.

>>137790941
>that battle on hard
Fuck, I had to hunt the damn dragon statues just to boost my troops so as not to be completely assraped

decent game; too short

>>137790908

I doubt they will. Where are you seeing them?

>>137791052
What is it with Schafer and ending his games on a shitty, rushed note?

He did it with the Meat Circus. He did it here. I'd even argue that he did it in Grim Fandango with the greenhouse area that comes out of nowhere, although it wasn't too bad there.

>Played demo
>Plays like a heavy metal themed action game with some driving segments
>Play full game
>Got some shitty RTS with a boring open world
It started off so well.

>>137791149
Arena Wien, Austria
European Tour, obviously.

Got sick of Jack Black after awhile, and the RTS elements are so horrible.

I don't think its a bad game, and I only paid £6 for it.. Not my thing.

>>137791280
>shitty RTS

...You know you weren't meant to stop doing any of the action stuff you had been doing previously just because you had to occasionally press a couple buttons to recruit some new troops, right? Hell, you could even play it as a straight action game in the battles if you just carried the flag with you and walked around with your army around you at all times.

>>137790941

But there's always a winning strategy that can usually be used in every fight. That strategy usually consists of
>hire a bunch of headbangers and a few ranged squads, plus a healer
>storm the gates

So it defeats the need to have variety. I'd like to draw a comparison to BK: Nuts N Bolts, where the majority of Jiggies could be obtained by using the same vehicle, only slightly modified to suit the specific needs of the challenge, which didn't vary much.

It's not good game design when you make the winning strategy easy to find and exploit over and over again.

>>137791515
True but that's not a flaw with the mechanics, that's a flaw with the enemy AI. Try that in the multiplayer and it's laughably easy to beat. Hell, try it against the harder AI difficulty levels in the multiplayer practice mode and you'll get destroyed. It's only in the single player really that the difficulty is set to casual enough, even on brutal difficulty, that you can get by without ever really needing to get involved in the battle or know what you're doing.

>>137791745

Game mechanics include enemy AI. If AI were better or there were more unique objectives in each battle outside of "storm the gates and occasionally destroy something that is between you and storming the gates", then the generic strategy wouldn't be as easily abused.

My experience:
>Hmmm, I was excited for this game when I saw the trailer, but I heard it ended up being shitty
>Fuck it, €15 for over 100 good metal songs? Sold

>Holy shit the art direction in this game is amazing!
>The driving feels a bit "floaty" and I've fallen off cliffs too many times due to a lack of a mini map, but at least running over deer is fun
>It's pretty funny too!
>Man, smashing people with my axe and launching them in the air with lightning is pretty cool
>The whole place looks like Franz Frezzeta's wet dream. This rocks!
>Uh oh, here comes that horrible RTS mechanic people warned me about
>Wait a minute
>I can actually take part in my own battles like a super-powered troop?
>This is fucking awesome! I am raping everything with my hotrod!
>What the fuck!? Lemmy, Ozzy, Rob Halford and fucking Tim Curry are major characters in this?!

Long story short, it's allot more FUN than people give it credit for. It eventually gets boring, but it's well worth buying.

>>137792138
Alright then, it's an AI difficulty problem rather than an inherent mechanics problem.

It's something which is wrong with how the components of the game are used in the single player rather than something which is actually wrong with those components themself when they're taken on their own, basically. Or in other words: the multiplayer of the game is fine - great, even - it's just that the way it uses that gameplay for the story mode is somewhat lacking.

As a GAMER you should be playing this on Hard, if you play this on hard you get to unavoidable part of game where you play RTS with troops and shit.
Trick is, it's almost impossible to win on Hard.
It's the mission with the goth bitch.

>>137785392
>>137785392
>>137785392

There are good 360 games?

>>137792458
I always play on hardest first, I enjoy a challenge.

>>137792458
>almost impossible to win

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BJP4ZujTEs

Not if you play it right. You need to get involved in the battle, putting the double team attacks and guitar solos and combat moves to use, rather than trying to play like Starcraft or something.

>>137792458

You mean the one over the sea of black tears?

Yeah, I know that feel. If you haven't freed every bound serpent and purchased every upgrade, you're basically screwed for that fight.

>implying the point of metal isn't to storm the gates head-on

Pft. Tactics. Fuck that. I have a 100 man strong army of head bangers in a gigantic mosh pit around me.

>THAT FUCKING FINAL RTS MISSION WITH THE EMO GOTH CHICK

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

FUCKING FUCKITY FUCKS FROM THE NEVER ENDING LAND OF FUCKERS FROM FUCKISTAN.

>>137792458
>It's the mission with the goth bitch.

The first battle where you're introduced to the doom metal/goth guys RAPED me repeatedly.

>>137792631
It's more of a case of solos IMO. The guitar solo that summons sunshine - it neutralizes all enemy buffs and debuffs. Considering the Drowning Doom is all about debuffs, that solo completely wrecks their army, so it's pretty much mandatory for that battle.

Which is why I think it was a fucking stupid idea to hide all the solos away in random corners of the map rather than giving them to you progressively through the game, but whatever.

One MAJOR thing the game was lacking was a mini map and some sort of item locator. If they just marked a very general area where the dragons and such were it'd make the free-roaming allot less tedious. I think they did eventually bring out DLC for this, put it wasn't free.

>>137793209

I thought the only DLC they put out was multiplayer DLC. Never bought any of it. Did I miss any singleplayer content?

>>137793403
Only a few extra items. It was a bit pointless really, the only useful one was the one that guy mentioned - it's an antenna thing for your car that points to nearby items you haven't found.

The maps are fun though. Honestly, the multiplayer was by far the best part of this game. It's probably pretty empty now though but who knows, maybe we could get a /v/ group together and resurrect it.

>>137793943

I wouldn't mind that. I bought the game in late 2010 when I bought my Xbox, played it for a bit and never touched the multiplayer, and didn't finish it until I very recently picked it back up again.

>>137794116
Alright then, I might make a topic in a minute then.

Would anyone else in here be interested in this?

>>137789987
Some metal is fucking terrible

Crack the Skye isn't

>rated M

No, just no.

I like Tim Schafer and all, but his style shines best when it isn't GRIMDARK SO EDGY LOOK HOW MATURE AND GRIMDARK THIS IS XDD

>>137795552

>confirmed for never having even LOOKED at the game

>>137789987
>Being over 12
>Liking metal

>>137795552
>playing as Tainted Coil VS Drowning Doom
>fighting some Gravediggers, the emo zombies who seem to be decomposing as they stand, as their heads and arms can fall off and they'll still fight on
>Battle Nun accusingly says, "Look at all that exposed skin! And bone!"
>not hilarious

I don't know what's wrong with you, bro.

/v/ has a thread about one of my favorite modern games.
aftet geting done with bitching at EA, good old /v/ is talking about VIDEOGAMES and fun

oh, /v/ you will never stop beeing awesome,

>>137795552
Congrats, bro. You're on the same mental level as walmart-moms who don't put any effort into research before buying their kid the new cowadooty.