>GAMYRR GYYYRRLLS dressed as the slut of the game

You really didn't need to point it out, it was already pretty obvious.

Saged because I'm tired of seeing Bioware hate threads.

>>136590818

I don't get it.

>>136590989

Oh, nevermind, I do now. It's such a stupid concept that it took a little while for it to sink in.

Just poor damage control.

Look at the fucking jew face on the girl on the left closest to the camera.

>your characters are so terrible they need to be recognized by their armor
also what the fuck does cosplaying have to do with video games?

Look at that fucking nose

Can someone hold my hand and spell it out for me? Please?

also dat nose

>>136591107
he's using the excuse that having each character have iconic armor/clothing is better because it allows more cosplay.

>>136591107

Laidlaw even brought a fem-Hawke cosplayer to sit next to them in the damn panel.

Whoever thought up that publicity stunt needs to be fired.

>>136590818
The Isabella at the very back actually looks fairly decent.

7/10 would bang

>DA2 spans over 10 years
>Hawke is the only one who ever changes his clothes

Holy fuck that girls nose

Sure, whatever.

>The only part about DA3 I'm looking forward to is so I can laugh at it

Always have been

>>136591208
I was going to point that out too, but then I realized everyone in that pic looks hideous.

Cosplay and fandom should never have anything to do with the game development process. It's something crazy people do at conventions, not a reason to strip out entire chunks of content.

Remember that DLC that Felicia Day was in? They had a kit on their website teaching people how to properly cosplay as her character. They want to have fangirls so badly it's pathetic

>At a PAX panel for Dragon Age 3, Gaider is answering the question why no followers could customize their armor at all in DA2
>He smiles and asks the front row to stand up
>The person asking the question immediately calls Gaider out on this bullshit answer saying that pandering to cosplaying fangirls couldnt be an excuse to remove gameplay.
>Stanley Roo steps out from the shadows, places a hand on his shoulder and declarers "DING DONG BANNU".

It's such a lazy excuse. Why bother making an interesting character when making an icon is so much easier?

>that nose on the first one

>DA3
>Bioware manages to avoid reusing the same environment over and over
>Instead there's loads of unique areas
>They all play like the Fade and Deep Roads

>cosplayers

Why do mostly hideous people cosplay?

I know a girl with the same facial structure as the white haired one in the middle

>>136591693

you forgot "END OF RINE"

>The Witch of the Wilds

And the general audience response to this was...?

they cut a fun option from the game so ugly girls can poorly dress up as the shitty characters. Stay classy bioware.

>>136591074
I'm jewish and that's the first thing I thought too, what the fuck is wrong with me?

>>136591838

Because when you're obsessed enough with a show/game to dress up as a character in public, there are probably other things wrong with you.

10/10 Bioware

I am actually upset

>>136590818
So, the reason is you're a fucking pervert that likes to look at girls in outfits from your game?

>>136591838

I dunno man, I have a vietnamese friend who cosplays with a group of girls at cons and such.

They are all fine as fuck and way out of my league

>>136592023

OP is implying his disgust at this act.

Take your autism meds and stop projecting.

Yea, because there were never ever any sheperd cosplayers.

Hypocrite fat fuck.

>>136592059

Hot girls that cosplay are one of two things

1) paid to do it

2) insane

Wait, what does that have to do with not being able to customize armour?

Wouldn't more armour variations allow for more cosplaying?

I don't get it. What do cosplayers have to do with anything?

>>136592202
pshh, quiet. logic hurts the bioware

>>136592059
Drew Tran?

>>136591336
Does she?

>>136592202
exactly. He just used this as an excuse and the audience was too beta to boo him off the stage.

>cosplay of dragon age 2
those people have to be paid, there is no one who would willingly attempt to look like the characters there

>>136591890
>At a PAX panel for Dragon Age 3, Gaider is answering the question why no followers could customize their armor at all in DA2
>He smiles and asks the front row to stand up
>The person asking the question immediately calls Gaider out on this bullshit answer saying that pandering to cosplaying fangirls couldnt be an excuse to remove gameplay.
>Stanley Roo steps out from the shadows, places a hand on his shoulder and declarers "DING DONG BANNU".
>there is a large flash out light and the man sitting at his seat is now gone with a small circle of ash where his feet were
>The rest of the audience are shocked at the sudden action and a large rabble occurs with people beginning to leave to room
>Gaider points to the door and the people trying to leave find that the exit is missing
>People are panicking and turning on each other Roo is banning the people becoming to rowdy and coming up with ideas to escape
>A lone hero in the corner finds another exit hidden behind the curtains and announces it to the crowd
>Gaider looks at Roo and Roo raises his hands in the air and announces "END OF RINE"
>There is another large flash, every guest in the room is gone in the same fashion and the conference is over.

>>136590818
>instead of hiring boothbabes we just asked cosplayers to sit in the front row!

Haha, cheap bastards

>>136592162

>not having a yandere cosplaying girlfriend

Was a fun 3 years

>>136592202

BECAUSE ARTISTIC INTE-

Nah, they're just lazy.

Gaider has got some serious hubris going on. Hey, Dave, nobody bought Baldur's Gate or Dragon Age because of your fucking writing. We bought it because of the impact we could have on the story through our choices. Remove those fucking choices and you're just another hack.

>>136591896
>complain about her looks
She looks perfect, just like a gypsy that Isabella was obviously intended to be but they had to adhere to typical beauty standards for audience's sake.

Is there a video of that?

I am very attracted to that nose girl. I think I'm getting a fetish for jewish girls /v/. They finally got me... I tried to resist.

>>136592202
You'd think that. But the idea of cosplay is partly for people to recognize the character/series you're dressed as. So if the characters in DA can wear all kinds of different armor, it'll become difficult to determine what IP people are cosplaying. Unless of course that IP has a unique, defined aesthetic.

And as we all know, Bioware tried that with DA2. And we all know how that turned out.

I would pretend to like Dragon Age to engage in consensual intercourse with this particular female.

>>136592449
go to bed Gaider.

I don't understand.

"Why can't your followers customize their armor"
"Take a look at the uniquely different cosplayers in the front row"
?

Also, that question and his reply reeks of set up.

>>136591693
>customizing how your character's armor looks adds to gameplay

Not defending DA or Bioshit but I really think this is the least of their problems.

>>136590921
SHE WAS A STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERRRrrrrr

>>136592449
>She looks perfect
>Except she looks nothing like in the game
>mfw you want to fuck a pig-disgusting pikey

>making a sequel to a huge ass flop of a game
EA, that's why you are in the gutter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZhTbhUpixY

Here's the video, for those who want their jimmies rustled.

>>136591838

>crying about party members/NPCs having a consistent and distinguishable appearance instead of mismatched gear you pile onto them.

You guys really are retarded. There are legit reasons to hate DA2 but this isn't one of them.

>>136592517
>That grin
Eww

>>136592553
My interpretation of it is that he's saying that the reason you can't customize your followers clothes is because it gives cosplayers something to dress up as.

This correct?

>you'll never fuck a mannish transexual gypsy

>>136592405

>impact we could have on the story through our choices
>bioware games

What? DA and BG had none of that, nor have any other Bioware games for that matter. Our choices are superficial at best. BG games have been all about the characters and setting/lore, very little with choice and consequence.

>>136592570
All their problems began with bullshit like this.

>>136592449
>She looks perfect, just like a gypsy

>>136592657
yeah thats my thoughts as well

>>136592657
What is art style/game design for 500.

>>136592605
>implying it won't sell like hotcakes

It's obviously really just because they're too lazy to model different armors for the companions.

DAYUM THOSE COSPLAY GALS ARE FUGLY

>>136592657
No, they did it because it is cheaper and simpler

>>136592405
>implying good open-ended stories are not a product of good writing

Yeah, I'm sure everyone would enjoy shittily written stories with shitty characters and a shitty setting as long as you have choices even if the outcomes are all crap or don't make sense.

>>136592610
>She fucks up
"Sorry I feel like a political speaker... for Ferelden"
>Crowd goes wild
>She says that she's dressed up as hawk
>Crowd goes while
>Guy makes a joke about leaving the internet
>Uproar

Fuck Bioware and Fuck people that goes to events.

>>136592449

Isabella was ugly in DA:O. Cosplayer is working it on two levels.

>>136592775

Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 sold really, really badly all things considered.

>>136592789

>Typical entitled gamer

>>136592405
>Gaider has got some serious hubris going on.

It's because he lives in his perfect little world where he can do no wrong and has surrounded himself with yes men who just affirm his actions. It's kind sad.

You could change the armour in Origins and people still cosplayed as Morrigan and other characters from DAO.

I pirated Dragon Age II.
I still felt ripped off.

>>136592863

>George Lucas.jpg

>>136592790

uh no. It'd be cheaper and simpler to have all your party members wearing the exact same armor/gear sets the player character wears, because then you aren't modelling individual outfits and weapons and so on specifically for them. Instead you just give them gear you designed for the player anyway, no matter how ill-fitting and out of character/design it is on them.

>>136592846
did they release numbers?

>At a PAX panel for Dragon Age 3, Gaider is answering the question why no followers could customize their armor at all in DA2
>He smiles and asks the front row to stand up
>Jeniffer Hepler is occupying the front row all by herself
>She tries to get up but trips of her triple chickenburger and falls
>Goes rolling towards the wall and crashes
>The force of the impact is so great the entire building shakes
>She slowly gets up but something seems wrong
>She starts sweating uncontrollably
>Suddenly she lets out a huge fart that goes on for 5 minutes
>Gaider licks his lips at the scene
>Stanley Woo does a double backflip out of nowhere
>"END OF RINE"
>He then kicks Hepler in the stomach with all his strength
>Her body starts shaking
>She opens her mouth and starts puking week-old spaghetti
>It doesn't stop
>Everyone tries to run, but the spaghetti blocks the doors
>Building fills up, suffocating everyone inside
>It eventually explodes, spilling rotten spaghetti in a 5 kilometer radius
>There are no survivors

>>136592610

Oh, that's the chick who was doing the ME3 damage control. The one who said it would be forbidden to ask about the ME3 ending at PAX.

>>136592937

They're a public company, they have to.

>>136592863
I just realized that this is what would happen if CWC ever came into a position of influence.

>>136592617
Good morning EA

>>136592945

>>136591503

>not taking screenshots of divine bustier

>>136591764

>>136592856

If you don't know Gaider, Avellone and Levine (System Shock 2 and Bioshock writer, for those who don't know) had a panel at this year's PAX.
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/722577/what-narrative-means-in-games-plot-vs-play/

>>why does narrative matter in games?

>Gaider answered first, saying, "I think the importance of narrative is to give the player a reason to care. Any game can offer you great-looking models and great-looking levels... It's giving the player a reason to care about the goals you're providing them in the game."

>Avellone's response, meanwhile, challenged the idea that the story a game designer can write matters at all. Instead, he explained, the systems that designers put into a game can let the player tell their own, more compelling story. He had found that perhaps the best role of a narrative designer was to "ultimately let the systems and the player's interaction with those actually create their own story." He cited experience with Fallout: New Vegas, describing the way a player brought more to the game than he could ever have intentionally written in:

>Levine answered last, saying that for him, the story in a game is all about context. "I would say that the best tool we have to sell our story is the world because the visual space. I don't have the comfort of being able to tell the story through a lot of words as much because I view that in our games as sort of a 14.4 mode of communication... so the environments are the T3 line. And it gives you so much information that's always there, it's all around you, all these polygons, and you can take in so much more visual information all at once than you can take in audio information. So I don't see it as a right way or a wrong way. I see that for us, we tend to rely upon the environment so much because you can do so much at once, process so much information so quickly."

>>136592617
>party member appearance not changing is a "feature"

>>136592617

The real reason is laziness. Having ONE silhouette/aesthetic tied to a character forever is also fucking boring.

Bioware didn't want to spend time/money making extra armor, and this laziness had shown throughout the entire "game" (and I use this term loosely). Reused areas, and worst of all -- no mod tools.

Mod tools are the reason more people play DA:O than DA2 to this day.

>>136592846
>>136592937
Yeah
DA2 has only sold 2.6 million to date
Considering DA:O sold 4.1+ million in it's first six months that shows some serious screw up.
ME3 hasn't reach 2 million yet.
ME2 only got to 2 million recently. Sadly space RPG stuff isn't as popular knights of time ago

>People actually played DA2
>People actually liked the characters
>People actually cared enough to cosplay as them

>>136592945
I'll admit, I laughed.
Well done, Anon.

>>136592913

Imagine my buttdevastation when I preordered the signature edition.

I was perfectly calm.

>>136592846
That's simply an unsupportable claim.

Yes, Dragon Age 2 sold worse than Dragon Age Origins. And Mass Effect 3 is seeing a drop in sales after the initial pre-orders.

They still sold better than, say, Psychonauts. Which just sold badly.

>>136593250

They don't care about the characters, they care about the attention people will give them for doing it.

>>136590818
>Yes. Cosplayers and fangirls are now a key demographic according to Bioware.

Why is that a bad thing? Why does games have to be just for boys?

>>136593305
i guess thats true

>>136592368
their budget went into advertisement and reviews

>>136592672
BG was generic D&D all over. What made it excellent was how much freedom you were given in what kind of character you wanted to play. A mage was vastly different to a warrior.

In addition a chaotic evil mage was vastly different to a chaotic good mage in who you'd get along with. You could potentially come to blows with every single companion through your own choices. The idea of the game not being based on the premise of choice is patently false.

>>136592610

>Laughing about the massive problems with DA2

Jesus. They don't even say anything like "we realize that was a bad move, sorry", they just just laugh about it.

>>136593141
>gaiders face when those two basically told him to fuck off

>>136593302

So a huge budget game that was the climax to a massively hyped up trilogy that the publisher had thrown millions upon millions of games of marketing money at sold worse than a relatively obscure platformer.

Are you trying to make Bioware look good or bad here, because I can't tell.

>>136593141
Just shows how much Gaider knows.

>>136593302
>mass marketed game in a popular franchise that was everywhere from billboards to TV ads sold worse than a niche platformer that is considered to be a huge flop
What an achievement, I bet someone got a million dollar bonus for that one at EA

>>136593141
>>136593141

>Any game can offer you great-looking models and great-looking levels.

Just not Bioware ones, apparently.

>>136590818
>Yes. Cosplayers and fangirls are now a key demographic according to Bioware.

if you knew anything about Bioware during it's Interplay days, you'd know this was always the case.

e.g. Lanfear.

>>136593430

It's not so much what he knows, more what he thinks he knows.

>>136593302
I'm not the guy you're talking to but even I will admit you're giving a terrible comparison.

Psychonauts was barely marketed anywhere near as much as Bioware's games.

Great point you're trying to make.

>>136593302
That's the dumbest comparison I've seen in /v/. And that's saying something.

>>136593141
Is Gaider's answer supposed to be seen as relatively weak and limited in your post? I don't see anything inherently wrong with what he said. Good writers can just as easily set-up what messages should be conveyed visually (descriptive ability is important in telling narratives even in traditional literature) and what impact the player's choices can have in the game world (something sci-fi and alternative history writers do all the time).

>>136593141
I'm with Avellone, really.

Levine can suck my balls. Words get a bum rap in video games because so many illiterate faggots play games these days, but with words you can construct an edifice in seconds that would take hours to construct via the environment.

Games are a multimedia presentation and idiots who ignore an entire type of media because they want to pretend they're a cinematographer need to shut the fuck up.

>>136593141
To be honest, MCA is the only one who knows what he's talking about when it comes modern games. Experiences created through gameplay via player's own choices and actions are generally more memorable than carefully scripted events that meant to manipulate you into feeling certain way. This wasn't exactly possible back in the day due to technological limitations, but there is no more excuse nowadays.

OH GOD THAT GYPSY NOSE

>>136593302
Psychonauts didn't spend 6+ months in advertising and offered multiply preorder bonuses

Also Psychonauts came out back when selling 500,000 units was amazing.

>>136593307

>>Implying that girls only care about playing dress up

>>136593485

Gaider is basically saying that without a story being crammed down their throats, players won't have any reason to play games. It kinda makes you wonder what video games he's played because I didn't sit there playing Theme Hospital wondering what the fuck my motivation was.

>>136593305
Bioware uses cosplayers as free advertising. It's disgusting.

The sad thing is that because cosplayers are such whores they will kiss Bioware's ass in the process in order to get recognition.

Also everybody at that panel cosplayed from DA2 because anybody who actually liked DA:O wouldn't be at that panel.

Never played any of the Dragon Age games, but isn't one of the staples of WRPG's that you can customize things?

Like Mass Effect, you can choose your gender, face, hairstyle, name, race etc. I imagine they have the same thing in Dragon Age...right? So why not costume for main or side characters?

Oh well, its just Bioware choosing to have "artistic integrity" instead of quality.

I remember watching a video of PAX 2012 about Mass Effect, and why did they use stock photo for Tali.
The Bioware speaker asks the cosplayer in the back to stand up, its the woman who was the face model for Samara who is also cosplaying as Samara.
Speaker goes on to say something like
"We based Samara's face off a real person,
just like we based Male Shep off a real person, Miranda off a real person, Liara off a real person...so that's why we did what we did to Tali's face."

...so why do a half-assed 10 minute hack photoshop job, instead of actually seeing Tali's face being unmasked?

But hey, its like arguing with Bioware why you can holster weapons in ME1&2, but not 3, they'll just give you a half assed excuse.
she's is cosplaying as Samara a

That feel knowing that Dragon Age 3 will be the end of BioWare.
The financial failure of TOR, the backlash to ME3, the awful nature of DA2.

Dragon Age 3 will come out, it will fail and EA will pull the plug. It will no longer be in Electronic Arts interest to keep a company producing failures endlessly and constantly garnering them bad attention.

It's a shame. I will miss BioWare for who they we're once.

>>136593630
When you look at modern gamers and think about it for a second, it's pretty much true

Here's an idea.

When you put iron armor on one party member, it looks different from the iron armor you put on another party member. It's still iron armor for both, regardless of looks.

Afterward, the only thing we have left to argue and haggle over is the styles of the different looks.

>>136593296
I know that feeling dude, I preordered ME2 and DA2 when I heard they were coming to the PS3, I was so hyped. I loved Origins because it was KOTOR in Tolkien land and ME2 was supposed to be a great sequel.

All I got was a shitty corridor shooter with waifus and a worse corridor hack and slash "RPG" if it can really be called that with more waifus.

I was pretty damn disappointed, it was around the same time I really got into piracy.

>>136593631
What the fuck, is that zombiemom cosplay?

>>136592657
that's the worst copout bullshit excuse ever
fucking gaydar come up with better shit

>>136593686

I'm confident in saying that that's purely because of the way video games treat them now. If video games stopped treating people like idiots, there'd be a sales lull, then people would just get used to it.

>>136593725

The thing is, while thats an awesome idea, it also comes up against a big problem Bioware has these days;
It would take more than five minutes to implement.

>>136593745
Pretty sure it's Flemeth.

>>136593731
NEVER preorder ANYTHING!

>>136593745
Flemeth

>>136593485
>I don't see anything inherently wrong with what he said.
I do.

If you need to give players a reason to play it outside of just playing it, then your game just sucks.

>>136593343

You're not refuting that your choices were superficial. Good for you, if you chose chaotic stupid, unsurprisingly, the good characters hate you. What were the consequences of alienating anyone in that game beyond kicking them from your party? Nothing. What were the consequences of kicking out Yoshimo in BG2? Nothing, Irenicus captures you regardless of whether he was there to betray you. That's just one example, there are many more. Only in ME3 were we allowed some consequences, and those were ultimately meaningless because the ending disregarded the whole series up to that point anyway.

>>136593517
>not combining environment and wordswordswords

Planescape:torment.jpg

>>136593141
I love Kevin Levine. Him and Avellone really know what they are doing. I don't mind Gaider, but I get the feeling he's more concerned in making RPG-lite versions of Heavy Rain.

>>136593745
Yes.

Remember when Flemeth was just Kreia instead of Kreia as whore?

>>136593652

Goddamn it America, what are you playing at.

>>136593794
Tell me about it.

>>136593853

Americans will buy anything if it's marketed to them heavily enough.

Is this an EA hate general, or should I keep scrolling?

>>136593684
>Dragon Age 3 will come out, it will fail and EA will pull the plug. It will no longer be in Electronic Arts interest to keep a company producing failures endlessly and constantly garnering them bad attention.

This is not far from possible. Some people may think "EA would never kill a well-known studio like BioWare", but they would be wrong.
After all, EA killed Westwood and they were de facto father of the RTS genre.

>>136593517
Lol no. Levine isn't saying that words have no place in video games. Just that video games should take advantage of the interactive visual component whenever possible. SS2 and Bioshock 1/2 had a ton of audio diaries that help elaborate on the story and tell the context of the game.

>>136593630
Yeah, I guess if you put it that way then his answer does suck.

>>136593816
I'd rather play a game with a story than tetris. I need context.

>>136593851

Fuck me, Flemeth in DA2 was retarded as hell.

Lol, she now suddenly has massive hair-horns.
Also, fucking massive tits.
Also dresses in BDSM leathers, and, for some reason, a SINGLE arm of actual metal armour.

>>136591764
>>They all play like the Fade and Deep Roads

The two most interesting parts of DA:O?

That would be an improvement.

>>136593881
Every EA/Bioware thread is an EA hate thread.

>>136593851
I always disliked her as a character. Too much power creep. Kate Mulgrew gets me hard every time though.

>>136593307
>fangirls
Operative word.
Not "fan girl"
Not "girl fan"
"Fangirl"

The attention whores. The "gaymurr grrlz". The period stains of women who play video games.

Even though I think they are entirely wrong the people who are saying that an outfit doesn't make a character are completely fucking wrong on quite a few cases.

Fighting games for example thrive on the fact that you know what the character is going to be like, their nationality, and what their moveset might be similar to all BECAUSE of what the characters dress up in. Are some of them still fine outside of their original outfit and recognizable? Yes, but they are far and few between and generally even when they have other costumes it has some sort of a link to the original.
Ryu for example will almost always have his headband, without it he's just a sort of unrecognizable generic person. Ken will almost always have his red gloves and smirk, it's just the sign that it's Ken.

They have the right idea, but it doesn't need to be executed like that. Especially when all of the official artwork for RPGs is generally what is followed for cosplay elements. It's the reason you never see Cloud really have any sword besides the Buster in most places.

Fact is that they not only made horrible characters, but also they weren't safe enough with the standard issue gear to be recognizable. OR and I'm betting this is more likely... They got extremely lazy.

>>136593943

QUALITY BIOWARE CHARACTER DESIGN

>>136593943
>stylized

Watch BioWare abandon this shit wholesale in Dragon Age 3 now that the Game of Thrones TV show has shown how to do things right.

>>136593952
Ah, perfect.

In that case, EA opened at 15.02 today and they're currently +0.24. When do you think they'll permanently fall under 15.00?

>>136590818
This is the worse logic ever
DA:O Morgana had a default gear that you could change out. When people cosplay as her they use that said look. Hell the crew form all 3 ME games had alternative options in looks but there was always a default appearance.

This guy is a fucking hack

>>136594047
They already tried that with DAO which was supposed to be inspired by ASoIaF.

>>136593517
truth

>>136590818

He wasn't making a point that the players are so design inept that they shouldn't be given the chance to customize as they'd just slap a t-shirt, shorts, belt, and bandana on the followers?

He's making fun of the faggots who bought that shitty game.

>>136593890
Except that's bullshit. Visuals should be used when it is most beneficial to use them. No more, no less.

>>136594038

>>136593963
The one thing Flemeth had going was that she good motivator for Morrigan. Their relationship was pretty well done and added a lot to Morrigan's character.

>>136594047
Dragon Age 3 will definitely look like A Game of Thrones. No doubts.

I don't understand why they abandoned what they had going i DA:O/A. It has to have taken a while to build up the visual consistency throughout the game, then they just dropped it all in that alpha abomination.

>>136593949
>take the two "most interesting" parts of DA:O because of their uniqueness and make an entire fucking game play the same

>>136594047
It does look like they toned down the spikes.

>>136592846
>>136592937
>>136593246
>>136593302
EA got their money when they shipped 3.5 million copies to retailers like gamestop, best buy, amazon etc...

but those retailers were only able to sell 1.5 million = they won't likely order as much from EA next time around. So even if EA has a factory make 4 million copies of Dragon Age 3, they might not find the retailers to ship half of their supply to.

>>136594084
I wish I knew fuck all about stocks. I hope they drop soon, though.

>>136593952

>bioware, how did you get every gamer with some level of intelligence and taste to hate you?
>it wasn't easy...I really had to work at it

>>136593630

It all depends on the game. A reason to care doesn't necessarily mean having a story crammed down your throat. If it's linear as fuck it better give me a reason to want to keep progressing. DA2 was supposed to be like that, except you stop giving a damn about the reasons after you realize it's all going to happen one way or another.

>>136594145

How did it add something to Morrigan's character? Did it reveal hidden depths of her personality that were hidden before without being contradictory to anything that already existed? Come on bro, elaborate, don't just pump out vague pre-packaged Bioware answers.

>>136594101
They still look like generic clone soldiers when you give them different equipment and that's bad.

>>136594031

Problem with that has been brought up in the thread before.

If the characters were so unrecognisable without their signature outfits...
Why do people cosplay Dragon Age: Origins characters successfully?


So long as a character has a canon outfit, its fine.
If their canon outfit is just a normal set of armour, then it might fall by the wayside, but things like Morrigan's outfit are easily recognisable, even if you changed her armour a hundred times.

In essence, they're using it as an excuse.
'Hurr, we wanted recognisable characters'.
So give them outfits they wear in 'downtime'. Hell, there was enough of it, just fucking around in half-hour conversations in which no one said anythign of import.

Why does Fenris hang around his house in the same clothes he wears out to fight.
Why does Isabella wear the same cloth shirt for going to the pub, and for life-or-death melee combat?

Why can't Bioware make a good game anymore?

>>136593836

Torment isn't a very good example of environments. They are fairly bare bones and anything of importance is handled through words, or very rarely though CGI.

I finished it for the first time last night. I was very pleased to find that my answer for what that can change the nature of a man turned out to be correct at the end.

>>136594146
If DA3 is going to be GoT then I hope they allow me to once again pop the cherry of the beta as fuck royal virgin bastard who is part of a secret organization.

That would be super.

>>136594129
Do you understand that there's a difference between "taking advantage" of something and "needlessly abusing" it? I'm not sure you do. Gb2highschool, kid.

>>136594170
>more armor on his sword arm
GODDAMMIT BIOWARE

I that you're trying to visually balance pauldron and shield on character's silhouette, but the sword wielding arm is always LESS armored so you can move it more easily.

>>136594276
If I want them to look like generic clone soldiers, they look like generic clone soldiers.
If I have a problem with their looks, I don't change their basic equipment

>>136594304
Thats what I just said.
Except I implied Final Fantasy 7 instead of Dragon Age.

They are probably scared that their characters won't be amazing, but in reality they just come off as shit.

>>136594229
The way I see it Flemeth is her entire reason for acting the way she did. You would be a bitch too if you grew up in the woods with a mom who told you that it was okay to seduce men and then kill them afterwards

>>136594372
Why would they have armor on the arm that is already protected by the huge shield?

>>136594304
Morrigan is the only character people actually cosplay as. Sometimes Alistair since he has distinctive hair.

>>136594305
There is no correct answer.

Get a load of that kike nose.