Lil' Sanic levels are horrible
Modarn Sanic all the way
Take in account that I only played Genesis games before

>>133027673
I agree. Rooftop Run was all around the best stage. I have never even played Sonic Unleashed either.
Planet Wisp was the only stage I actually disliked.

Best 2D level - Crisis City
Best 3D level - Sky Sanctuary
This is not up for debate

>>133027758

Speaking of that.

Which Sonic is best?

Dreamcast Sonic?
Classic Sonic?
Modern Sonic?

In my opinion,
Modern > Classic > Dreamcast.

This is in terms of gameplay, not story or graphics, for story?
Dreamcast > Modern > Classic.

>>133027847
You should play the PS3/Xbox version of Unleashed, it's my 3rd favorite sonic game.

People exaggerate about how bad the werehog stages are, you could easily skip a few of the fighting segments, however you wouldn't want to do that because of the XP.

The night stages platforming sections are good in my opinion.

Avoid the PS2/Wii version, Terrible Day Stages and Terrible Night Stages.

I enjoyed all of them except for 2D Planet Wisp.

I've played this game to death. Colors too. I hope Sonic 4 Ep 2 is good. I need another Sonic fix.

>playing Rooftop Run Classic
>play Flying Battery music
>mfw

>>133028002
Have you played Unleashed? If you aren't a filthy casual, you'll be able to get past the night stages. It's only about 30% of the game in the PS3/Xbox version.

Is it bad that I would prefer Werehog PS3/Xbox stages over Lil' Sanic stages?

>>133027946
>In my opinion,
>Modern > Classic > Dreamcast
>modern sonic playing better than classic

Did you fucking play sonic 4.0? Generations? god damn fucking bullshit kill yourself

Rooftop run... I love it so much... I almost cry every time I think of it.

>>133028134
>Generations?
That's the game we're discussing, dipshit.
>He thinks classic sonic is better than modern sonic.
>He thinks Sonic 4 is Modern Sonic.

>>133027758

I actually hated the modern Sonic levels and loved the classic levels, personally.

>>133027673
Best 3D probably, but I fucking love Crisis City classic

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Ji6WIctWw&feature=plcp&context=C4a865b6VDvjVQa1PpcFMOE4-6Dk
URAw9OEyxfAzE46ELMmoLW9kQ%3D

This is going to be awesome

>>133028348
YES. The daytime levels in unleashed are fucking amazing, I'm so excited for this.

Is Sonic Generations better on other platforms? It is a steaming pile of shit on PC. worst 15€ ever spent. I couldn't bring myself to play it anymore after the first boss.

I'm sorry, OP. I couldn't hear you over the sound of Speed Highway and Seaside Hill.

>>133029786
>seaside hill

I'm with you on Speed Highway, up and down and all around but seaside hill is so fucking shitty.

>>133029829
No its fine

>>133029829
What? Seaside Hill had some of the best multiple route sections in the entire game!

>>133029897
>>133029971
maybe it's because i literally judged every stage by its music and thought the gameplay of all of them was about the same amount of fun.

>>133028081
Unleashed is my favorite modern game, you go so fucking fast in it, I love it.

So many alternate paths too.

Not only is Rooftop Run the best level, it has the best music too.

>>133029786
Which Speed highway mix did you like?
I like Classic

>yfw The fastest sonic has ever gone was in Unleashed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wYNT6l7iRM&context=C44f254eADvjVQa1PpcFNPrBxrhl2rmfiIOQnXhnT2OL8
XOl11Bqg=

>>133031148
True, but that's only when you're abusing the game mechanics to go way too fast.

Which is AWESOME

Sonic Unleashed was 4/10 of a great game. Pity about all that other stuff, though.

>>133031218
7/10 for me
Werehog stages were great for leveling up day time sonic.

Did you play the wii version?

>>133031285

360 version, and no, I did not like the stages where you become a werewolf. Not one little bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn-AtNRcUQY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEr1ftorfjY&feature=related
rooftop run also had the best soundtrack

>>133031326
Most people hate the werehog stages because they suck at it.

If you hate the werehog stages, you're a filthy casual.

>>133031326
Neither did I, the game's better when you finish it, why? you can just go fast and get better as daytime sonic. Don't let the werehog jade your opinion. He's out of the picture when the game's over.

>>133031431
...


Right, OR you know, it's because they're typically 45 minutes long and have clunky mechanics?

>>133031538
>45 minutes long

Did you walk through the stages or something?
They're 10-15 minutes for me.

>Talking over Speed Highway and Seaside Hills
>Not talking about City Escape Master Race

>>133031587
Yeah, maybe a handful of them are but as you get further into the game they become longer and longer.

It's not always the level itself, it's the random spawning enemies and repetitive fights that do it.

>>133031431

Oh, I don't suck at them, they were easy.

They were just clunky and boring and long, that's all. I never want to play them again.

>>133031650
Night stages had some nice scenery especially apatos or whatever.

the battle music wouldn't be so bad if it merged with the stage theme like Kingdom hearts did.

>>133031431
I liked them
made it feel like it extended the game
and not just artificial shit

>>133031604
>City Escape Master Race.
>Worst Music
>Worst Classic
>Mediocre at Best Modern

Underage b& detected.

>>133031650
Not to mention the shitty platforming and stupidly tedious puzzles (lift block X and insert into slot Y at a snail's pace while random enemies gank you from all sides or push levers slowly)
>>133031772
Fucking...this. It's a nice piece of music it's just you hear it so many fucking times it becomes grating as fuck

>>133031832
I agree on one thing, it sucked, HARD, on generation,
but it's rock in the original version.

>>133031836
>Shitty Platforming
>Puzzles
But I liked the platforming, and I didn't think the puzzles were tedious.

>>133031832
Hey man, don't be hating on Escape from the City

Seriously, the Classic version may sort of suck, but the modern version is awesome in a goofy kind of way.

Except for the intro, which is just awesome in an awesome kind of way

>>133031946
Boarding was awesome, stage itself? Mediocre.

>>133031892
Puzzles added variety, I'd get bored if I was fighting to that music all the time.

Just wish the werehog moved stuff faster.
Cause you know? he's supposed to be strong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7QOdvxWAac

The gameplay in the Werehog stages wasn't inherently bad, per se. Oh, it wasn't good either, but not as terrible as some make it out to be. It's really a half-assed rip-off of Prince of Persia with some button-mashing God of War style fighting smattered on top for good effect.

The problem I had with it is that it's not what I want when I pick up a controller to play a Sonic game.

If the Werehog was it's own character it it's own game series completely unrelated to Sonic then well....well, it still wouldn't be GOOD, but it definitely wouldn't be looked upon as complete and utter shit like it is.

>>133031982
>That awesome moment when you grind of a ramp and sparks are still coming from your board when you're in the air.

Put Un-Gravitify on and it feels like you're playing those free rider games.

You didn't say Seaside Hill OP, so I will have to agree for now.

>>133032042
>Button Mashing
>Playing the wii port of any multiplat.
If this is not the case, then you really suck at the werehog stages.
Button mashing prevents you from beating enemies quickly.

WOAAAAAAAH! WOAAAAAA-OAAA-OAAA!
WOOAAAAAAA! AOOOO!

HEY ALL
WELCOME TO THE GREATEST STORM
I KNOW
YOU HAVE WAITED MUCH TO LONG
AND I
I WILL BE YOUR SHINING STAR
I'M HERE
HERE TO CONQUER NEAR AND FAR


This is improves every level in the game

Crisis City have a good music too, the Classic level have a good troll but the Modern one isn't that good.
Also
>Classic Crisis City
>Homming Attack
>His World
Trust me, It's good.

>>133032132

I beat the werewolf stages pretty easily by simply mashing the buttons repeatedly. Not sure what the Wii has to do with it, I've never played that version, no do I intend to.

>>133032160
>Tfw the game doesn't play the full version of this song.

>>133032042
Did you honestly pick up Unleashed and not expect to play as the werehog?

I fucking hate that.
"WEREHOG! I WAS SO UNAWARE OF THIS DAMN YOU SEGA YOU TRICKED"

>>133032253
The wii version was simply a button masher and wagglin, nothing more, nothing less.

little to no platforming, either.

>>133031892
>tightrope sections
>clunky climbing/swinging that wishes it was Ristar
>not having a shadow to gauge where you're going to land on a platform

Seriously guys? The puzzles were just stupid and boring. I want variety not just busy work for the sake of artificially extending the level. You know, an actual puzzle. The only thing that came remotely close to this was Mazuri's rising platform section.

>>133032274

Actually, I picked it up because some people said it was a return to form for Sonic.

And for about 4/10 of the game, it kind of was.

But the people praising the game up and down were only concentrating on the good bits of the game and ignoring the fact that the better chunk of the game was, well, crap.

>>133032274
Fucking this.

The werehog was leaked before Sega even ANNOUNCED the game. I remember they were retarded enough to "tease" the werehog months after the fact in Nintendo Power by saying "the game will play very differently at night" like no one had any idea.

>>133032274
Me* oops

point being, if you didn't want to play as the werehog, why even pick up the game?
Most people act like it took them by surprise.

>>133032304

I'll take your word for it. That doesn't excuse the rotten 360 version, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MeJNBo8sDw

>>133032397
>4/10 of the game.
Stop playing the fucking wii version, there's only 30% of werehog in the game including DLC.

>>133032410
I don't think that was his point

I think he just meant it shouldn't be in a Sonic game period

Which I will agree with, though it didn't completely ruin the game for me, I just disliked it for reasons I've already covered.

>>133032274
I think most people were expecting less Werehog in Unleashed then there was Big in Adventure.

Pointless hope, yes, but people were getting desperate for a good Sonic game at the time

>>133032410

How could you tell the werehog was going to be crap if you didn't play it first? Sure, we all groaned when we first saw it announced(HERE WE GO AGAIN!), but like the good little blind Sonic fanboys that we were, we still naively believed they knew what they were doing and there was a chance it might still be fun.

>>133032517
Having played both the Wii version and the 360/Ps3 versions, I think 30% werehog and 4/10 Sonic are both wrong. It's probably some very specific number like 5.35 werehog.

>>133032397
again, you did know you were gonna play as the werehog, right?

The back of the case did say things were going to be different, IIRC
>>133032575
Well one thing was great, they made the 'good part' of sonic awesome and they stuck with it.

>>133032610
To be fair, Sega was always the master at marketing shit games. Remember how fun Sonic 06 looked in early trailers?

Yeah...me too.

>>133032517

Lengh-wise, the 360 version of the game is 5/10 werehog, 4/10 Sonic, 1/10 other misc. boring, pointless crap.

>>133032679
>1/10 other mix. boring, pointless crap.

What the fuck is this shit? You mean the hub world and some of the hub quests?

Okay, you have that.

But you're still wrong on the Werehog > Sonic length ratio, it'd be 4/10 Werehog and 5/10 sonic. And hell, with DLC it'd be 3/10 Werehog and 6/10 Sonic.

>>133032657
They showed the beta that was further in development than the main game.

We would've got that game if they didn't lose their source code and have MS and Sony saying
"We don't care if you need more time, we need this game now or you're not making any games for our consoles"

I still replay 06 dunno why maybe it's the music or out of pity

>>133032757

No, the werehog stages were all longer than the Sonic stages.

Length-wise, the game is one half werehog. The Sonic stages were nice, but they were much shorter than the rest of the game.

>>133032770
>lose their source code

Wait what the fuck? Seriously? I never knew about that. I knew about MS and Sony riding their asses about releasing it at launch but...christ Sega/Sonic Team get it together.

>>133032757

>What the fuck is this shit? You mean the hub world and some of the hub quests?

>Okay, you have that.

derp.

>>133032839
>Length Wise
You keep saying this, I don't think you've actually played the werehog stages.

If you've looked at the level design of the werestages, you'd know that the day stages are much longer, except you're going so fast when you upgrade your speed/ring boost you don't even fucking notice.

>>133032839
Actually, the game was more like 6/10 werehog. The Sonic stages were obscenely short in comparison.

>>133032918

length - the actual time you spend playing the game, not the total number of stages.

>>133032841
Yeah dude, check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c84K5WCRwhc

The stages were going to have day and night transistions too the longer you stayed in the level.

They should remake this game at their own risk.... anyone agree? or big no?

>>133032918
Of course the werehog stages took longer to complete, he moved like a fucking snail.

The Sonic stages were fucking MASSIVE (like, multiple kilometers per stage) and short while the werehog stages were longer with a fraction of design work involved. Sonic makes up way more of the game, but you don't play that "more" of the game, you play more of the less.

>>133033031
If you had L2 or the LT held in he actually moves pretty fast.

>>133033091

I think the point they're trying to make is, when you're playing the game, you spend more time playing as the werehog than you do as Sonic.

>>133032963
Let's look at my stats for Apotos:
Day Act 1:
1 Minute
Day Act 2:
4 Minutes
Night Act 1:
14 minutes
Night Act 2:
2 minutes

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!

I died a total of 8 times the first time I played werehog, and since they add to the timer, that's minus 7 minutes.
HMMMM, looks like there's more night than day, but y'know, there's still more levels, and the more I played the shorter and shorter the night levels got, and the longer and longer the day levels got.

There were also many more day levels via side missions.

>>133033189

exactly