Nope

Nope.

HOW DO THEY WATCH TOP GEAR WITHOUT TV LICENSE?

>>130588249
BBC iPlayer doesn't require a license (only for live broadcasts).

http://www.bbctvlicence.com/

Troll thread. In Britain we have state TV channels without adverts, the licence fee pays for them. You don't need a licence to play games or watch DVDs.

To forestall the rest of the trolling, "blind" people pay a 50% licence fee, because legally blind people can still have some sight, and thus can enjoy TV.

>>130588315

Online tv need a tv licence fucktard.

>>130588378
>paying for TV
>not using adverts

I play on a computer monitor because cheap.

>>130588497
>only for live broadcasts

I guess you quit reading fucktard. You DON'T need one to watch programmes on BBC iPlayer after broadcast.

>>130588580

I guess just because you can greentext irrelevant parts of what you said makes them true.

YOU NEED A TV LICENCE IF YOU HAVE A COMPUTER AS YOU ARE CAPABLE OF WATCHING ONLINE TV.

You fucking imbecile.

>>130588315
>>130588497
>>130588580
Technically you should, otherwise people outside the UK would be able to use the iPlayer.

It's just that no one actually gives a crap.

>>130588516
>Paying for TV
>Still getting adverts

>Maybe they have a life

>Don't have a TV license because I don't watch anything
>Constantly get threatening letters and people knocking on my door asking me if they can come inside to see if I have a TV
>My face when I say "no", slam the door and they can't do shit

They're all bark and no bite.

>>130588378

To add to this. You only need to pay for the licence if you have a TV signal decoder in your household.
You could get away with paying only for internet and phone service as long as you don't have an actual TV set in your house and your PC doesn't have a TV tuner in it.

>>130588676
Nope, you don't. Learn the law bro.

You can even have a television without a licence providing you are not using it for receiving channels. In Sweden, I believe you need to pay regardless.

>>130588781
Ah. So if you have a TV for console games you still have to pay despite not watching any TV.

What a wonderfully fucked up country you have there.

>>130588680
Nope.

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_tv_progs/tvlicence

>>130588993
No, see>>130588778

If you do not watch live broadcasts you don't need a TV license and there's nothing they can do about it. They will however harass you constantly harass you to make you think you're breaking the law when you're not. A quick phone call to the police will make them stop.

>>130588993

Well, I believe you're fine as long as you can show you aren't watching any TV on it.
Besides, you can avoid this issue; just get a computer monitor instead, they're cheaper, higher resolution and you can get them just as big as standard TV sets anyway.

>>130588778
Keep doing it and they'll start sending you letters about taking you to court. Eventually they can get a warrant. What a fine state this is.

I hope this clears things up...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/31/bbc-tv-licence-fee-extend-to-iplayer

GOD DAMMIT THE LICENCE ONLY APPLIES IF YOU ARE WATCHING UK TELEVISION THAT'S BEING BROADCAST!

You can legally watch on-demand content/catch-up services without one.

In communist norway you need to pay a license if you own any device with a tuner regardless of if you use it or not.

>watching TV

>>130589217
>Keep doing it and they'll start sending you letters about taking you to court.
>Implying they have any power whatsoever

You know what I did after I kept getting letters and people at my door? I phoned them up and told them if they kept harassing me I would take them to court. Guess what I haven't had to put up with for seven months?

There is no way they can prove you use your TV for live broadcasts if you don't. They occasionally use vans that can detect TV signals but if you don't watch live TV you're safe.

Just curious, even if you did have to pay for only using your tv to play games, how the fuck would they find out that you weren't paying it? couldn't you just say you didn't have a tv?

>>130588879
Nope. You even need a license if your phone is capable of streaming video.

>Have a TV
>Haven't had cable/satalite for five years
>Use it as a second PC monitor and to play console games
>No one questions this at all
America, fuck yeah!

>>130589417
>They occasionally use vans that can detect TV signals
jesus christ Britian

>>130589237
This is not NOW. At the moment, you don't need one and I doubt it'll be needed in the future. Plus they're not going to hunt down every person behind an IP address that accesses it.

>>130589520

Yeah, gonna guess you're american, but don't go thinking your country doesn't have it's own white van squads.

>>130588781
Wrong again.

YOU GONNA GET V& BRITFAGS

America should adopt this system.

They would be able to put even more of their population in prison that they already have.

>Don't have to deal with that complete bullshit

I feel for you though, eurobros

>>130590079
drugs are working fine
plus they fund the CIA unlike tv

>>130590079
Yeah, because you're sent to prison if you don't pay your tv license.

>>130589704

No, I'm correct.

"You don't need a licence if you don't use any of these devices to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch ‘catch up’ services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD."

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check/viewtopiccontent.aspx?id=TOP12&iqdocumentid=TOP12&WT.mc_i
d=r001

>>130590093
You are likely american which means you have to pay for healthcare.


No one under the age of 30 even fucking watches tv.

>>130590162
You are sent to prison for owning marijuana in America. The government take money off prison owners for every person in their so it's a benefit for you to be in jail.

>>130590162
You are if you don't pay the £1000 fine.

>>130589481

>Look mum, I can make shit up!

wait so can you watch live tv without having paid for a license, or is it like cable where you cant watch the content if you arent paying for it?

because it seems like the former if they want to come inside to see if youre using your tv for

What a shit hole. Britons will bow to any demand if a bureaucrat tells them it's the law.

>>130590251
Nice assumption, but whats with your vendetta against America?

>>130590304
It is the former.

>>130590173
You can have any equipment like a tv decoder, providing it's not hooked up. You were wrong and changed the cards.

>>130590251

Wrong way round on the prison deal. The prison owners charge the government to use their facilities. Why do you think you hear so much about criminals costing US tax dollars?

>>130590389
I was only stating facts... Don't get so defensive.

>>130590416
alright i guess that makes a little more sense

still kinda fucked up though

>>130590304
It should be like that now that most homes are on digital (cutoff is end of this year). Non-paying people should have their signals scrambled like how when you cancel a package on satellite/cable.

>>130590512
AMERICA #1

>>130590471
And why do you think America has so many Draconian laws and locks up so many people? Because the people in charge are taking money to do so...

>>130590512

Not samefag but...

>somone points out something foolish about a foolish law
>absolutly lose your mind when somone brings it up
>"Dont get so defensive"

cmon bro...

>>130590268
1000 brit dollars for watching tv without a license? Shit I can drive drunk get caught and punch an officer and pay less than that to get out of jail. God bless the American free market.

>>130590740
>absolutely lose your mind

Massive over statement. Why are you so upset about my post...


Also the TV license isn't a silly law. With it we a lot of advertisement free television and also fund things like Planet Earth. The BBC is a pretty big company.

>>130588993
In my old student house we had three TV's which were used for consoles/films, we didn't have them hooked up to an aerial. We got a letter through the door saying "This address isn't paying license" every 6 months or something but nobody ever came round to check in the 3-4 years I lived there.

>>130590881
It is up to £1000 but unless you're stupid, there's no way they can prove you watch television anyway.

>>130590913
Don't think you see the point. Some people just don't give a shit enough about television. This is vidya after all. If I want to see Planet Earth, I'd rent out the Blu-rays.

>>130590913

Do you read what you type?

>owning a television in 2012


YOU ARE ALL ON FUCKING PCS RIGHT NOW

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NEED A TV?

>>130591165
Find me a 50" monitor without a tuner.

>>130590913
in sweden it is, if you own a tv that's in a box with 3 inches of dust on it standing in a closet you have to pay license. The retailers are also by law required to report you when you purchase a tv

Any brits just stand there staring at the people who knock on your door? You know, just open the door and when the ask to come in you say "Hmmm...let me see" and then you just stand there staring off into the distance until they go away. Or just very, very slowly close the door on then while having a blank stare?

>>130591081
You would think the BBC would get smart and put everything up on youtube. Uk ips would not see ads, but everyone else would. They could make millions and export their culture.

>>130590913
Yeah the license fee is good value for money for BBC6 music, BBC 4, Radio 2 and 4 and the amount of quality documentaries it commisions/funds. If we didn't have the BBC I can't see the private sector filling the gap without being contracted into certain quotas of educational and cultural programming etc.

>>130591081
What is your point exactly? I don't own a TV at all, I download films and TV shows I want to watch...

>>130591236
Just buy a tv and an extension lead for your PC... You don't have to pay a license for just owning a television.

>>130591236

>>130591313
Well that's not how it works in the UK.

>>130591236
http://www.computermonitors.co.uk/30_and_above_lcd_desktop.htm

Here's a couple.

>>130591358

No, because they have the authority under orders of Her Majesty the Queen to force their way into your house and look for any illegal TVs.

>>130591507
>analog

>>130589173
>you have to PROVE you never watched any TV on it
How is that remotely possible?

>>130591386
It's called iPlayer except you only get the past 7 days. I think I heard about them offering a subscription for their archive in the future.

>>130588542
I use a tv

>>130591623
0/10

>>130591590
When you buy a TV in the UK you're required by law to submit your address and what you bought (TV, freeview tuner, HDD recorder etc). It's a complete waste of time though since retailers aren't obligated to check the details are right. I work in electronics retail and as long as they put some vaguely believable address on it IDGAF.

>>130591624
>implying my beamer doesn't have component/dvi/hdmi.

>>130591386
They are actually pretty good with internet content. Iplayer shows almost everything and they also have a shit load of clips like QI and never mind the buzzcocks on youtube.

Channel 4 puts full episodes of almost everything on youtube.

>Britfags face when I watch BBC in America without paying for their license.

Enjoy your lack of money or lack of Top Gear.

>>130591792
It's retarded. I could be using that television for video games.

>>130591930
You have advertising dummy. That pays for BBC America. So, it just gives them more money.

>>130591792
Even so, you don't need a TV license for simply owning a television.

>>130591792
So 123 Tea and Crumpets lane won't cut it?

>>130591926
Yeah 4oD is more like an archive but the thing I like about iPlayer is there's always a steady stream of films to watch uninterrupted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/tv/categories/films

>>130591624
The fuck?

>>130591930
You pay for healthcare bro. And I'm sure you get adverts on BBC america.

lel

Jesus Christ
Why hasnt anybody been shot because of this
Oh thats right no guns

>>130591718
>have to pay tv license bullshit
>don't have access to all of back catalog
are you even trying shitty british govt

>>130592131
It's projection, so depending on the wall, the quality isn't going to be good.

>>130591731
what is this? it looks like super netflix

>>130592205
The good thing is you don't need one to watch whatever is available on iPlayer.

You know what is worse than television adverts? Fucking radio adverts. Radio adverts are the most obnoxious things I have ever heard.

The TV license pays for BBC radio and it's almost universally god tier radio.

>>130592364
XBMC

>>130592009
>>130591954
Yeah it doesn't matter. The very worst case scenario:
>You buy TV
>Submit your real address
>TV Licensing co. see's you bought oen and don't have a license
>Send a bloke round
>You say "I use it as a monitor to play games on"
>TV guy says "OK ladmate i'll be off then"
>Optional: invite him in to exchange blowjobs

>>130592406
Yeah...especially since they have to read out the T&Cs at the end super fast.

doesn't the UK have non state funded channels? what if you only want to watch those??

>>130592439
Why co-operate? They're not law enforcement. Fuck them.

Just tell them to get off your property.

>itt Amerifats don't understand socialist concepts whilst simulataneously have to pay for their healthcare and are also one of the most poverty stricken countries in the world


>we that 99% nigga gimme dat big mac, haha television license

>>130592407
>just a media player
>Not super netflix with good content

I am disappoint..

>>130592543
Because it's their job and I would not like someone to be so rude to me when I'm at my job.

>>130592486
You have to pay even for those supported by advertising. Most of the fee money goes to the BBC.

>>130592663
Then you should get a different job.

>>130592543
Because not cooperating will lead to law enforcement, i.e. a big fine. It's similar to tax evasion. And if you're doing nothing wrong, why bait a fine when you can just say it's a monitor and hear nothing else from it.

>>130592663
I don't care. They look in your windows and shit before they even knock to check if you are watching it. Now that's rude.

>>130592748
why?

What happens when you don't co-operate with them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPwNgIsH9BA

>>130592656
>implying
the internet is my super netflix

How many channels does BBC have? I only get their world news one, I wish I had more, I love BBC documentaries.

>>130592782
Then you stand up for yourself when you go to court. Say you refused to co-operate since they don't need to be on your property unless they're law enforcement.

Now on the other hand, if it were police coming to my house asking these questions because there's some law that allows them to do this, I would give my reasons then and there at the door.

>>130592986
4

>>130592881
>I APPRECIATE THAT I WENT A LITTLE OVER THE TOP WITH THIS NICE POLICE LADY AND AT THE TIME WHEN I WAS PUT ON THE SPOT AND THE ADRENALIN WAS SURGING THROUGH MY VIENS I GOT A TINY BIT AGGRESSIVE

I lol'd, that guy was a moron.

>>130592986
BBC 1 is the best channel on English television.

Then BBC2 BBC3 BBC4. Like 3 childrens channels. A separate HD channel which plays like Planet Earth and shit that are suited to HD.
And like a few news channels.

They also have like 10 different advert free radio channels and they are amazing mostly, apart from Radio 1 which is generic pop shit and unfunny cunts.

>>130592986
In the UK:

BBC One/HD, BBC Two, BBC Three, BBC Four, BBC News, BBC Parliament, CBBC, Cbeebies, BBC Alba, BBC HD.

It's appalling that they don't offer all their channels in HD yet. ITV does (with the exception of CITV).

>>130592881
>WIBBLY WOBBLY GOBBLE LAW BRAW GOD SHAVE THE QUEEN
Sorry, I can understand like, a third of what is going on there...

>>130593123
pic is probably what he looks like

>>130593279

>have to use the other channels feature on my sky box because ITV HD isn't available normally in my area

Fuckers.

>>130592986
6 actual TV channels shown in the UK, including 24hr news, and current politics. 1 is their main thing (with all their big soaps, shit reality tv), 2 is the popular-smart channel (Intellectual news analysis, not-popular-enough-for-1 documentaries, etc), 3 is new talent/comedy, 4 is weird niche smart (more documentaries, weird shit like book clubs with famous people, book-themed panel quizzes).

There's about 7 or 8 radio channels, and awesome shit like the iplayer.

>>130593097
It would go on for a long time before it went to court. You'd get sent a fine, if you refused to pay it you'd probably get late payment penalties. If you dragged it out for so fucking long that you ended up in court you'd lose the case because the courts always stick up for the TV lisence to a retarded degree. Some dude once re-engineered his TV so it was physically incapable of recieving the frequencies that BBC channels were broadcast on and he still had to pay the fee which seems a bit silly. He took that all the way to the courts and lost.

Anyway wasn't the premise of this conversation about buying a TV for use for gaming only? There's no reason to go through all that hassle when you can just tell them you don't use it for TV and they'll say "ok" and fuck off.

>>130593420
Can't even get Channel 5 here on analog but hey, we're all using digital now (Freeview/Freesat/Sky/Virgin), right?

>we don't pay for healthcare in the UK

them's wot ur taxes r 4 mate, innit?

>>130593420
That is odd. I know BBC One HD is just BBC One London. I take it ITV1 HD uses regions?

>>130593656
Of course. Better than paying $20000 health bills.

ITV is shit tier, even in HD

>>130593582
There's still an analogue broadcast in your area? Ours switched over last June. Yeah I could never get channel 5 on analogue when it was running, I remember back when channel 5 launched and I was excited to have more than 4 channels, tried retuning our TV and could vaguely make out a feint image through the static.

>Mfw I live in a 10 story 150 room apartment complex.

Lets see them try.

I haven't watched TV in months

>>130593656

True, but it's better than paying potentially thousands of dollars over a broken leg, or because your brother got run over and needs life support.
It's a sort of communal service, everyone pays comparatively little so that no one has to pay a lot.

>>130593526
It's not about blocking off BBC channels, though. You have to pay for a license to watch any television channel from the UK. That's the law. So, that guy was an idiot and deserved it.

I don't think the courts would have enough evidence to prosecute you. As long as you explained your purpose for owning a television, I don't see how you would have to pay the fine and court fees.

>>130593746

Yeah brah, but they get exclusive CL matches. And they got the world cup 2 years ago.

And Corrie

>>130593746
It is. The only good thing was Mr. Bean.

>>130593492
>3 is new talent/comedy
>BBC 3
>comedy
Maybe a couple of years ago, yeah.

>>130588027

>TV licence

Most of the time, I'm in awe of how fucking great mankind can be, how much it achieved through the ages and how much we have learned along the way.

Other times I think we're a fucking braindead cnacer on this blue planet.

I mean, I really REALLY don't understand why some people once thought that having to own a License to own and watch a fucking TV was ever a good idea!

It's like this petition website in the UK I saw yesterday, bringing back hanging? WTF ARE YOU ALL BACKWARDS?

(Not ranting against the brits here, ranting against humanity itself for thinking some retarded shit like hanging is a good idea.)

>>130593785
Yes, the Meridian area (south east) I think gets cut-off at the end of the year. We're using digital now, so it doesn't matter. I think the reason we're last is because a lot of old people live here.

I did notice not too long ago there's a new transmitter from doing a scan for a new television. Had to rely on one further away (even though Freeview said we wouldn't be able to receive it).

>Americans and Canadians have a system where they pay for TV
>Get adverts anyway
>England has state sponsored TV that has no adverts
Honestly, some shit just makes sense.
Thank you England, for making sense about Television.
Now if we can fix your self defense and gun laws, we'll have utopia.

>Finland
>soon we'll have to pay the fucking tv license through some form of retarded "media tax" even if we don't want to watch telly because it's 90% garbage and all series are usually at least a year behind of USA
>only good content are documentaries
>mfw

>>130593983
Now it's about teens having sex and losing virginity. This depresses me.

I failed my tv license test 3 times now :-( TV learner's permit sucks

>>130588516

>america
>ads literally every 3 minutes
>then show comes back on for 2 minutes
>then 3 more minutes of ads

>>130594171
lol'd

>>130594251
>adverts are 90% fast food

>>130593721
You know there's a system that's remarkably similar, where you pay for health insurance?

dont you have to pay to even own a tv in england? and I dont mean a 1 time thing i mean like monthly or somthing like that.

>>130594251
It's funny when they air American shows on the BBC; shows that are 40 minutes over here are hour long shows there. Must be a bitch to schedule.

>>130592195

Because it's a good system. Without it we wouldn't even have half of what the BBC has made and there'd be adverts every 15 minutes.

Not to mention the ratings-pandering that'd go on with reality shows and talk shows. BBC 4 and its radio equivalent that still broadcasts serials would be a long gone.

>>130588542
>dat rin

Nigga you give me dat wallpaper

>>130588713
Haha, it's almost like you're really on Xbox Live.

>>130594428
That's the licence and like 50 other countries have it as well.

>don't own a TV
>still get harassed by the police for not paying protection money

Burtan

Do you have to have Xbox Live Gold for iPlayer?

>>130594432

>American Shows
>On the BBC

Dont be silly, they dont show anything except their own stuff.

>>130594251

>French Canada(deal with it)
>10 minutes of ads
>3 minutes of TV/movie

I'm not even kidding, some of our channels are trully that fucking stupid. I'm not even making up numbers, I've verified, there's a popular local channel that actually play 10 FUCKING MINUTES OF ADVERTISEMENT FOR EVERY SLICE OF 3-4 MINUTES OF MOVIE/TV!!!!!!

Why do we even PAY for fucking TV when there's so much fucking advertisement?

The issue with the TV license is that it's pretty much extortion. Even if you don't own a TV, they try to think of other reasons to make you pay and will harass you until you do. It's pretty much just a tax since everyone realisticly has to pay it or get fined, regardless of TV ownership.

>>130594751

I remember BBC 2 had heroes.

>>130594251
>go to america
>watch tv, show finishing
>ads
>show comes back to roll credits
>more ads
How do you ammurikans put up with that shit?

>>130594251
Fine with me. I don't watch TV.

I'd rather everyones TV had ads instead of a compulsory fine.

>Watching TV
>Paying for TV
>Paying to watch ads
>Living in Airstrip 9
>2084
>I shiggidy

> TV licensing staff earn commission from catching license evaders
> They act like they have authority but really they're just door to door sales people
> They're not allowed in your house without permission
> If they can't get in your house they can't prove you watch live TV
Who gives a shit

I told the guy to fuck off and slammed the door in his face while we were playing XBOX, he left a little note saying he'd be back. I chucked it in the bin.

>>130594843
By having a DVR like a civilized person.

How's that healthcare, America?

>>130588027
>license to have TVs

You cannot fucking be serious.

You Englishmen should try that revolution thing, it worked pretty well before.

>>130588027
>TV Licence
>need a license to watch TV
>misspelling license
What fucking barbarian backwater shit hole is that place?

>>130588027
Is this a joke like those penis inspection things?

You don't really have to have a license for a TV do you?

>have a large TV
>don't pay for cable
>people ask me how do i live without having cable and being able to watch television
i tell them one simple thing
vidoe gaesm

So you have to pay for a license for the BBC (that's all it really is) just to be able to play your consoles?

That would be like the US Government forcing everyone to have an HBO subscription to be able to play a PS3.

>>130594734
I don't think Microsoft would allow it. BBC wanted to do it, and make it free. But Microsoft wanted it to be a part of gold. So it never happened afaik.

BBC can't be attached to any other for profit service.

>>130594982
>he doesn't know about Obamacare
how does it feel knowing your only argument against America is now invalid? Oh, and enjoy your Muslim overlords.

>be eurofag
>playing compelling vidya on my telebox
>climax of the game
>fuzz breaks down my door and smash my TV
>beat me with their whistles and throw me in jail
>license was a few minutes expired

>watching tv
>i scooby dooby doodily gosh darn googly doo

>>130594984
>>130595046
>>130595107

Maybe you should read the thread before posting.

>be in high school
>decide to never watch TV
>never looked back again
Seriously, reading books, enjoying cherry picked movies and TV, music and games is the only way to be.
Reading Rainbow and TVO (Television Ontario, a Canadian public broadcasting system free of ads) didn't raise a mindless consumer.
They made their mistake when they allowed the quality of their work to suffer because they learned the masses would digest the shit they put out.

And now I shall never return to mass media, as I have the internet.
Fuck you, hollywood.
Burn, hollywod, burn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhQGH6CbKhw

>>130595153
Fucking greedy fucks. Sony allow it without a + membership.

How many channels in general do you guys get in Britain with a TV license? How much does the license cost over the course of a year?

>Just finished MGS 2
>S3 Project
Nouh my gawd

>>130595150
No. Don't need one for just video games and DVD players.

I have long ago stopped anything related to TV including watching it.
I have the Internet. No need for TV, waste of money.

>>130595162
Except Obamacare sucks. No public option. It's essentially like car insurance, except for living. So if you dont't want to pay it/can't, you'll have to stop being alive.

It's also worthless. Everyplace has to cover you now but they just charge you like 1000 dollars a month for "coverage" that literally covers nothing at all. And you'll pay because if you don't, you go to prison.

>>130595338
You'll still be harassed by them.

>>130595270
Hundreds if you're on Freesat.

I'm American (Land of the free) where TV"s don't need licenses.

Someone from the land-of-cameras (Britain) tell me about TV Licensing

>>130595385
So? I am harassed by people trying to sell me conservatories. Just turn them away / bin the letters.

>>130595241
Trivia: Ever wondered why PS3 got a special character in MK9 but Xbox didn't? The reason was that Microsoft demanded that the extra character be a paid DLC item, so that they could get a cut. The developers said no.

>>130595343
>ObamaCare
>Have health insurance or pay fine, or go to jail
I am so fucking free you guys, you have no idea.

Whatever. The individual mandate is unconstitutional and will be struck down in June when the Supreme Court rules on it.

>be American
>look around bedroom
>I have five tv's

feelsgoodman.mkv

>>130588027
>>130588027

I live in s3 - although not Rock Street.

I don't have a TV licence.

I don't see the need for one when all TV is shit and anything that isn't I just watch on iplayer and 4od or torrent. I wont be held hostage to their schedule when I dont have to be, and its free.

> bu-bu-bu-but you can watch iPlayer for free on your computer
yeah just wait until they change the law

>>130589520

That's like saying they have scanners that can detect pirated music on your mp3 player.

It's bullshit and everyone seems to realize that (exept you obviously)

>>130590360

Citizens

United

Negating

Technology

For

Life

And

People's

Safety

>>130595530
and then the US will again have no healthcare and be below third world countries in quality of life, so that old men can make more money than most 1st world countries GDP.

>>130594843
>watching the show after it ends

>>130595458
So do they really have no power there?


Because if I ignored some sort of official letter my government sent me, I'd likely have a warrant for my arrest.

>>130595270

My knowledge of basic terrestrial TV is a decade out of date but back then it was 5 channels. These days there's more channels and you can buy freeview boxes that give you ten times more channels.

>>130595549
TV license is per household not TV.

Honestly, when I get my own place after Uni I won't have one, since I never fucking watch TV. Downloads erryday.

>>130589832

Fake and gay. Anyone who believes that shit deserves to be scared into buying a tv licence.

Britain = 1984

Fucking neonazis!

no wonder your population has an affinity for fictional nazi stories; you live in an oppressed society!

>>130595637
Guess what? Not my problem. I am not bringing ANYTHING ELSE into it beyond the fact that our constitution does not allow our federal government to force the citizens of the USA to purchase a product under threat.

They'll have to figure something less retarded out.

>>130589664
>Implying any government would use a whitevan

You might as well just use a police van, it's so fucking obvious.

if I was rich.. I'd go to england.. AND GIVE AWAY TV's

Just GIVE THEM AWAY

like here's a truckload of tv's.. who wants one?

It's a shame when you buy a tv you can't just opt out of bbc channels, they're all shit anyway.

do you need licenses for drinking tap water too?

what is wrong with british people?!

>>130595528
Microsoft are like way ahead of Sony and they still expect people to bow down to them with things like this? Wow.

>>130595803
Constitution doesn't allow alot of things.

Then it gets ammended for the will of bueracrats. I mean loli is protected by the constitution.

Now go show some to a cop, tell me how it goes.

>>130595608
They don't need a van anymore they claim to have a portable device which can detect whether a TV is tuned or not. Thing I don't get is.. does a tuned television actually broadcast anything to be detected?

I am not sure there is any science to it.

tbh I have heard of people getting really fucked on like little quirks like.. but if you invite them into your house you deserve to get fined.

>>130595853
I agree. Should just make the BBC ones a package on Sky that you pay for.

'tis a real thing lads. Me mum got her telly taken away a fortnight ago for not paying the twenty farthing licensing fee. A bloody mess it was, she missed the conclusion of Willy-Chap Challywankers, the one where Percival bumbled his motorized rollingham off the round-about and crashed into the Springly Fizzleworthy Confectionery.
Right spot of bother it was, pip pip. She was so upset, the next day she forgot to call a passing muslim "master", and was sentenced to three years in the Lord's dungeon for committing a hate crime.

>>130595747
and you'll still get letters and people sent to your door demanding you pay the protection money or have your jolly ole kneecaps broken.

>>130595397

Just went through their site, that's not half bad. the only drawback is the price of their boxes (150-300 USD for one.) Otherwise great deal. Cheaper then 6 months of standard Sat here in the US.

>>130595730

At worst they send over an inspector to take a quick look around and confirm you don't have a TV sitting out in the open. Back in university we had that happen and we just put the TV on the floor in front of the couch and covered it with a tablecloth. It's really no different than a gas/electric company inspector coming around to check the metres.

>>130595924
That's the best you can do? X isn't illegal so go show it to a cop? Haven't you a clue about how untrained in law our officers are?

>>130595974
ok I lolled

>>130595942
It collects the signal, so I think they can faintly pick up the interference. Remember on an analog broadcast you can pull out the wire and it still shows a picture slightly? Works kinda like that but on a bigger scale.

>>130595803

Why are you so upset about semantics. Being forced to pay for a product is the same as being forced to pay taxes.

>>130594126
Even the documentaries are old as fuck.
Well, not all of them.

Fucking overpaid cunts making shitty decisions.

>>130595730
TV Licensing are not the government, though. So you can safely dispose of their letters.

>>130596102
If you aren't working you don't pay an income tax. if you choose not to buy a product with an excise tax on it, you won't be taxed.

The only way to avoid ObamaCare's penalty is to buy healthcare or stop being alive.

wait... LIVE Television...
like.. Radio frequence broadcasting?

England still uses that?

wow.. England are you even trying

>>130595986
>implying my jolly knees can be broken

I'm an ex-chimney sweep, these knees are made of titanium.

>>130588027
Nope.

Just call up the tv license and tell them to fuck off.

>be british
>own a non-tuned TV (only really use it to play wii and ps2)
>never paid for a fucking TV licence in my life
>british TV fucking sucks nigger shit anyway
>actually ALL TV sucks nigger shit so i don't know why you bitches are cock-waving about who has the better TV licencing laws
>all i need is vidya

>>130596069
Protip: You'll be arrested and prosecuted.

So I guess your arguement is that the justice system also doesn't understand laws?

>>130595607
Even so it's gonna be hard to determine what IP address is linked to a particular household without first notifying the ISP.

>>130596238
Good. If you can't pay, you're clearly a fucking burden and should be executed.

>>130595964
So....pretty much like HBO?

But then they can't force you to pay it.

>>130596245
It's going soon to make way for mobile 4G available nationwide.

>>130596512
Exactly. It should be a choice. The current system is pay them or get no television channels at all - even the sponsored ones.

>>130596084
Still hardly going to fly in court. I don't anticipate ever having enough money to buy/rent a house with a living area so I don't tend to worry that much about TV licensing.

>>130595974
My fucking sides.

>live on my own
>cheapen everything in my life
>only have Cable Internet at home
>find out I can split cable inside my house and actually get TV
>it works, extended basic with all Local HD channels
>find out state law you can do that if its on the inside even if they find out they cant do shit, but outside they can fine you or cut your services.
>been enjoying internet and Cable TV for $45/month
>amurka

Televisions are awesome.

Television is not.

These are facts, globally.

>>130596174
>Corporations have more power than government

If they aren't the government than why the fuck would ANYONE pay the license?

>>130596407
Not when the UK government is planning shit like this: http://www.itworldcanada.com/news/uk-wants-isps-telcos-to-store-subscriber-data/144925

nb. People have already been prosecuted for watching iPlayer live without a license.

>TV licenses
>licenses
>for TV

What the fucking hell UK?

>>130596620
Ah so Mr Big here has his parents pay it.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check/viewtopiccontent.aspx?id=TOP12&iqdocumentid=TOP12&WT.mc_i
d=r001

>You don't need a licence if you don't use any of these devices to watch or record television programmes as they're being shown on TV - for example, if you use your TV only to watch DVDs or play video games, or you only watch ‘catch up’ services like BBC iPlayer or 4oD.

thread over

>>130595974
you, sir, are my negroid

>>130596407
Most ISP's would probably tell them to fuck off as they don't have the resources.

>>130595942
>>130595608
The Vans never existed.
>>130595607
They tried to and didn't get anywhere, it's an old law and those are the ones that don't get changed.

The BBC head even tried to demand a computer tax law to fund the iplayer and that got thrown out.

>>130596731
>People have already been prosecuted for watching iPlayer live without a license.

Don't think so. Read they aren't targeting people that watch the live iPlayer part for the time being. The process would be too complex and costly.

Gonna provide me sauce?

>>130596786
finally!

>>130596745
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lml-zEZsVRM&feature=plcp&context=C34fa13eUDOEgsToPDskI8iE7rb-
4JUjABEINlHTzO

They have a refrigerator tax too.

>>130588027
No only if you watch BBC broadcasting or record BBC broadcasting on a TV will you need to pay, I don't pay the licence and I use my TV for playing ps2 geams.

What the hell is all this, it's just confusing. You need a license if you use your TV to watch TV? What if you have cable or satellite, do you still need to pay for that??

>>130596731

Governments try that shit every other year.

>>130596669
BRB gonna try this

>>130596731
>implying that'll ever pass

In Denmark we have to pay license for just having access to the internet. That means owning a mobile phone from this century will cost you, no matter what you use it for

>>130596960
Yes, you need to pay for that also (but that's optional paying for cable/satellite). It wouldn't hold up well in court if you paid for cable/satellite but did not pay your licence.

>>130596850
> Don't think so.
“There have been successful prosecutions of people watching online without a licence,” said the corporation’s written response to the MPs.

Telegraph, Google it yourself you lazy fuck.

>>130596960

Well yeah of course you need to pay the private company that provides the cable/satellite service. The TV Licence funds the BBC which is publicly owned.

>>130597157
What about if you own an old mobile phone?

>>130596960
Yes the cultural marxist mafia known as the bbc forces you to pay to be indoctrinated.
The funniest thing for me was when they kept shoting a program in early August about how great multikulti is and how nice and friendly Blacki and Paki are, a few days later and half of London was burning to the ground.

what is this tv licence bullshit? you need a licence to purchase a tv? or what?

>>130597257
murrikan here, I can't make heads or tails of this either

>>130595974
this fucking post

>>130597178
I really can't be bothered but I'll take your word on it. These few people must of course let the license man in and he probably asked them "Can I just take a quick look at your internet history?" and then discovered it that way or they had it on when they come round.

They wouldn't have found out any other way.

>>130597216
That would work, as long as you cannot recieve radio feeds, television or internet on it

>50% discount if you are blind
wat

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/for-your-home/blindseverely-sight-impaired-aud5/

>>130597257
In some countries, you have to pay a small fee when you own a TV and watch normal broadcasts.

I live in France and here it is used to keep public channels and radios afloat since advertisement isn't authorized anymore past 8 pm.

>>130597402
The obvious loophole is always the "my wifi was unsecured at that time, someone else did it" but I think that shit isn't going to fly when they have decent evidence. You can't hide behind random IPs for everything.

>>130597342
>>130597257
Just read this:

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-if-a-tv-licence-is-not-needed-top12/

>>130597257

You need a license to watch broadcast TV, not to play video games or watch DVDs.

>>130592881
>dat female cop
Mai waifu

So fucking amazed at the dumb Americans who can't work out this shit. It's not that difficult.

>>130597257
You pay a tv licence if you own a tv, doesn't matter how many tvs you have, this money funds BBC.

>>130597584

Please don't start stalking a police officer now. It won't end well.

>>130597529
in britain the main TV channels have transcripts for the visually impaired, i assumed that was a universal thing?

I failed mine. =(

>>130595270
We have a service called Freeview, which is basically just "TV" now since the old analogue signal is switched off and freeview is basic TV and comes built into new sets. You get around 40 channels and 50+ digital radio stations depending on where you live, you could also get a freesat box which gets literally hundreds of channels. 90% of them are religeous or just play weird ethnic music though, although if you wanted you can aim it at a different satellite and get lots of european channels.

you Euroshits are insane

>>130592881
Why do Brits always sound like they are chewing bubblegum ?

>>130597257
>>130597342

The TV Licence is a yearly payment that funds the BBC, keeps it ad free and allows it to produce both big budget shit like Top Gear and niche shows that wouldn't stand a chance in this era of reality shows and dramas.

Next time they pay me a visit, think I'm gonna fire up EastEnders on iPlayer just as they knock.

>>130597363
Ever watched a british tv show? well that was paid for by brits who pay the TV licence. The BBC funds shows using money from the licence so if the shows on the BBC are shit nobody will bother getting a TV licence. Think of it as a sort of quality control so the BBC has to keep high standards, but even so most of the TV is rubbish.

>>130597821
I know that it's hard to understand since the words public services are probably unknown in america.

>>130597821

We think the same of you for different reasons.

Pic not related but cool.
Murrikan here.
So do you guys have to pay for a distributor AND the license?
Over here, I pay for Comcast and that's it. Comcast is my cable company.
Do you guys have to pay for both cable/satelite and the license fees?
If so, about how much is that?
I pay about $40/month for my service here.
That's about four hours of working time at my job, gross, to pay my cable bill.

>>130597245
Pakifag here

the bbc has a fucking nasty agenda, that much is obvious. i dont know where you get that its pro-paki though. pro-nigger, sure. the bbc hates pakis it would seem.

>>130597808
Yeah, you could just cancel your Sky and use that to receive free satellite channels. Same thing as Freesat.

>>130597572
>>130597571
>>130597540
so basically it turns over-the-air into quasi cable tv? thats pretty shitty

>>130595942

The "detector vans" are and always were a hoax meant to scare you into thinking they could find you out.

They find out people who don't pay their license by doing this:

1) They have a database of every address in the UK
2) They have a list of everyone who owns a TV license
3) They figure "like 99% of the country has a TV"
4) They check up on the addresses that don't have a license listed

They'll occasionally send license inspectors around estates/flats to do random checks, especially in student heavy areas and *especially* campus accommodation, but that's usually for places with a high tenant turnover (where someone can buy a year's license then move house after 6 months and someone else moves into that flat). Those inspectors have 0 power but they intimidate people into believing they do.

>>130598002
Who doesn't hate pakis, seriously, you all smell like curry and look like your just took a shit all over your face.

>>130598002
They do. Aren't you lot child rapists? I'm sure I've seen something on BBC Three and Channel 4 about you lot going after young girls. It's fucking creepy.

>Step dad starts preaching to me about budgeting when he throws all his money away at the bookies

>"Anon you waste all this money on your computer stuff you should think about the essentials: gas, water, electricity, food, tv-"

"Check the taps, the waters running.
I only top up the gas when I need a shower, otherwise it stays off and I wear layers.
My cupboard is full of food, just because I don't have the money for a take away every night doesn't mean I don't eat.
And the electricity is always on"

>"But you budget like that and waste money on non essentials, you don't have a home phone or watch tv, but you still pay to keep your internet on"


Do they not fucking understand? Who has a godam home phone anymore? ANYTHING I COULD WANT TO POSSIBLY WATCH ON TV IS ONLINE.

>>130598002
They also are accused of anti-semitism. I think you're confusing truth with agenda, even as a paki you must realize, that most of your compatriots are scum.

>go to america
>ads every 5-10 minutes
>ads after a show's intro

>watch superb owl
>ads every few minutes

How do Amurikans put up with this flibbyflobber?
It's downright onnoxidoodle.

Know what else yuropoors believe? That water doesn't rehydrate.

>>130598172
We record our shows and watch them later with a fast forward button

>>130597984
To watch ANY television channel you need to pay a licence fee by law. It's an offense not to. You'll get BBC (no adverts) channels and and sponsored channels. You can pay for satellite or cable to get more decent channels...just like how it works over there.

British Cop here.

Can we all stop being retarded please?

>Yes, the TV Licence is a real thing. It ONLY applies if you watch or record LIVE broadcasts with a TV/PC etc.
>Watching shows online after broadcast, eg. iPlayer, is absolutely FINE.
>It costs around £150 per year for a colour TV.
>No, you don't need to pay PER device, it's a single annual fee (or monthly if you prefer)

As for the TVL 'inspectors':

>They are quite within their rights to approach your property, just like any member of the public.
>As the property-holder, you have every right to turn them away or deny them access to your property. Again just like every other member of the public.
>They may send you letters regarding your current (or lack of) licence. These can be responded to however you wish. While it IS a crime to watch broadcasts live without a licence, it is incredibly rare for anybody to actually be called to court. The fact of the matter is that as a nation/government/legal system, we JUST DON'T CARE ENOUGH.

With regards to the video posted earlier, the uploader/homeowner was just extremely ignorant. The officer in question did exactly what she was supposed to do, and YES, by filming the TVL agent, he COULD have committed a crime by causing alarm to a member of the public. I'm not saying he did or didn't, but it was perfectly possible.

>>130598172
I hate ads so much

>try to watch some 24 hour racing event
>ads every 10 minutes and and shit and I miss several importnt parts in the racing

>>130597683
Ok.

>>130598172
They have low attention spans anyway.

>forget to pay my weekly TV license of 200 rupees
>after attending the mandatory morning prayer at my local mosque i am apprehended by a guard
>after searching me he finds i'm wearing union flag socks
>taken at the point of his scimitar i am brought before the sharia council
>receive five year sentence for missing payment deadline and displaying in public the now defunct british flag

don't listen to my fallen brothers, american friends, the TV licence is exactly what it sounds like. some people would call you ignorant or pathetic for hearing the word licence and instantly jumping to some ridiculous conclusion about police enforcing it like a law, digging up your favourite reaction image and laughing at us, but you're right.

>>130598192
at least pizza isn't a vegetable

>>130597245
Ironicly the only group in that riot that were behaving?

Turkish foreigners.

>>130598369
no one died from eating pizza, people die from not drinking water

>>130597839
But top gear is terrible. Why do I need to pay to fund something I dislike?

You know who else is ad free and has big budget shows? Showtime and HBO. Except they don't force you to pay them.

>>130598192

The EU is not the UK.

>>130598454
wow, uhh, that's, that's completely irrelevant

>>130598303
It's not illegal to film someone on your property. Same for filming in public.

>>130598096

>going after young girls. It's fucking creepy

>moralfagging on 4chan
you do realise what website you're on, don't you?

>>130598092
not all of us, no. not that that would hinder any of us in fucking hot english women.

>>130598484

HBO and Showtime aren't running a media empire.

>>130598484
It's just assumed we all love television here, so we must pay up.

It's a choice anyway. Don't pay and don't watch channels.

Again if the BBC is not government, then how the FUCK can they fine or arrest you? Why does a corporation or public group not owned by the government have soverign right to arrest and imprison citizens of your country?

>>130598649
and get harassed.

>>130598132
>most of your compatriots are scum

yes but i also feel the same about english people and people in general. your point being?

>>130598687
I could explain why you're dumb but....


Point at him and laugh people. Point at him and laugh

>>130588027
>S3
THE PATRIOTS!

>>130598369
Atleast water hydrates here.

>>130598526
He never said it was

>>130595974

Its like a strange combination of cockney, how americans think we speak and the truth of how this country is getting swamped with Muslims and immigrants.

Every fucking shop I walk in to has budd budd ding dings at the helm.
A woolworths I used to go to as a kid to buy pokemon cards has been replaced by a packi squad 99p store.

99p shops and chicken shops everywhere.

Fuck this country, america/canadas the destination for me lads.

>>130598172
And to think they get spammed with over 10000 medical product advertisements every day across the country (that was in 2006 if I remember the year correctly).

It was horrible trying to watch tv there, so I stopped it quite early on while living there and relied on the internet to get my shows.
They truly are being brainwashed by the media and advertisements over there.

>>130598303
And before anybody chimes in with 'it was his property, not a public place' etc etc

A public place is defined as any place that the public have reasonable access to, either by right or payment. This includes common law right of access. So, the path OUTSIDE his house could be construed as a public place.

BUT

I'm not for one second implying that he committed a crime by filming, or that any court would actually say he was acting in an illegal manner.

>>130598526

You're correct of course, filming in public is perfectly fine, even filming the police or celebrities, whatever.

The point I'm trying to make is that the filming wasn't illegal, but alarming the public could be.

(And no, I don't think he was doing anything wrong at all, I'm just stating that we need to be aware of both sides here.)

And people complain about the US?

>>130598760
I guess it just works differently in my country.

In most countries, corporations can't send goonsquads to abduct citizens.

>>130598563
Except that is real life and this is online. No one here would probably do the things to little girls like what those Pakistani men did.

What grinded me the most was when one was interviewed and he was all like...

Well, see we don't get to decide who we go out with - our parents arrange it. We are expected to marry said girl. So before then, I have known some men to go secretly behind their parent's backs and look for young girls - these are more willing and are dressed like they want it. Some say they prefer these girls since they're tighter - the girls are practically begging for it.

>>130598270
Thank you for clearing that up sir.

>mfw americans call a tinky winky pink and stinky a "vagina"
seriously though, i don't pay a TV licence and the only BBC services i use are the radio stations. for most of my childhood i didn't even realise that there were radio stations which had adverts

>>130595046

>>130598687
Shit nigga, I don't think I've ever seen someone look so stupid when trying so hard to look so smart.

>>130598303
How does it feel being part of an organisation that has created a huge deal of animosity between themselves and young people over the past few years?

I used to respect cops, more recently I just wait for opportunities to not co-operate with you.

By the way, what rights do I have to withold information from the police? Assuming I'm not under suspicion/arrest. I would have thought name, and address perhaps.

>>130598742
They have a right to approach your property just like any other person. Turn them away, get rid of the letters. Simple.

>>130598930
nice pasta
also how old is that bitch?
is she ever going to die!?

>>130598841
Well, if you want to get away from them, I have no idea why you would want to come here. We're one ultra liberal president away from white slavery here in America.

>being harassed and forced to pay to do something you don't want to do
also
>being forced to watch TV
>mfw doctor who called it

>People's face when I tell them about the concept of a TV License

Faggot-ass pseudo adults thinking Europe is a goddamn paradise.

>Sucking insane amounts of muslim dick and taking it in the ass from them with a smile, totally allowing sharia law bullshit into your country

>Cameras all over outside invading your privacy

>Your need a fucking LICENSE to watch non cable/satellite tv

>You actually have to give them all your info when BUYING a fucking TELEVISION SET


The fuck? Why do countries like this even have a fucking population? You stupid shits throw mass riots over a nigger gang member being shot, but you're A-OK with taking it up the ass on all these other counts.

Get fucked europe, you guys are pathetic as fuck jesus christ

In the US, we have public television channels. They're funded by private and government grants (inb4 hurr taxes). For the most part they suck, but they do (or at least, they used to) air some good science programs from time to time.

>>130597620
A TV license is a pretty foreign concept (and stupid) concept to Americans. Think of your reaction to the "pizza is a vegetable" thing a few months ago.

How many channels can you access with the license

>>130594486
I hate the idea of a TV license, but mainly it's the way that it's run is what gets to me. I see that the BBC gets to do these shows that would never make it on a big murickan network cos of their constant rating whoring, all because we pay a license fee. I like that aspect. What I don't like is getting half a dozen letters over 6 months telling me they're going to send someone round because I haven't paid my TV license. But I have paid it... so why am I getting these letters? Oh right, I bought a new monitor, but it has a freeview receiver built in. I sent letters back explaining the situation, inviting them to send this inspector round already. They never did. The letters were never responded to. After a final warning I heard nothing more about it.

I mean wtf is with this system? I imagine some abandoned building with an automated rusty robot someone forgot to switch off endlessly sending out these letters.

But before I forget - how did they know I had purchased a new "TV"? I bought it from eBuyer. Does that mean eBuyer submitted my contact details (including address) to the TV Licensing Authority?

It's bureaucratic bullshit at it's finest.

The sheer ignorance of Americans in these threads always makes me laugh. It's like the stereotype has some legitimacy to it.

>>130599052
>implying i didn't make it up
copypasta is for peasants

people still watch tv?

>>130598847
> The point I'm trying to make is that the filming wasn't illegal, but alarming the public could be.
Who the fuck is talking about alarming people?
You fucking cops live by a new set of rules in this post terrorism world. Everyone is a fucking potential terrorist, inciting something or other.
That's my whole problem with policing these days. The public are treated with contempt.

>>130599141
Enjoy your 30 000 drones spying on you all day every day, americanski.

>>130598869
>>130598869

>Except that is real life and this is online. No one here would probably do the things to little girls
>this is online
>No one here

reading comments like this, it all starts making sense about how and why the british are soon to be fucked hard by the camel jockeys

>>130598993

Read the PACE act. You don't have to give them your name or address if you're not under arrest. They can stop you, search you still but you don't have to say who you are (but then if you carry ID, they will know anyway).

One stopped me the other day for being out at night. So what if I am out at night? I'm weird - that's not illegal is it? I refused to give him my name/address and mentioned the PACE act but he was all like "I think you need to go back and research the law mate" but they'll always say this because they don't like you being un-cooperative like that.

Eventually the guy went (he never left his car) since I was pretty much being cool with him - I said I was depressed and like to walk at night. He kept saying I need to explore the world etc but yeah sure...assuming I have a job and even so, it would be difficult in this economy.

>>130598847
Ahhh throw the ol' breaching the peace at people. That's a last resort, right?

>>130599170
i try not to think of them like that, but honestly it's really really difficult. taking pride in your country is one thing, but choosing to be ignorant and trying to mock another country because of some mandatory patriotism instilled in you from a child is just stupid. maybe because they have to pledge allegiance to a flag every day as children

WPP advertising for Rupert Murdoch hates the BBC cause it cockblocks a british fox from taking over.

Don't need a licence for vidya only live tv

>>130599336
Seriously. Most probably would get anxious just being outside, let alone approaching a girl of any age.

>>130599356
>they can stop you and search you
Fucking police state, where i live you can refuse to show your ID to a cop if you aren't suspect of something.

Why are two of the most conservative countries with some of the worst social policies of any democracy fighting over who has fewer liberties taken from them by their government?

Just seems pretty stupid to me...

>living in an age where every show gets uploaded immediately after airing
>still paying for cable

I don't get it, hell even when hockey is on there's streams everywhere

I fucking love the TV licence. Like 30 channels and a shitload of radio, websites and stuff all ad free and showing things that smart people find interesting for £12 a month. I can deal with £12 a month.

Also I love not paying for healthcare but still having better quality of healthcare than the US.

>>130598841
It's depressing. I can't trust certain races to serve me food, hence I avoid kebabs.

>>130599356
> you don't have to give them your info
> they can search you for no reason
this country

thanks for the tip on the PACE act, i'll read that shit.

> He kept saying I need to explore the world etc but yeah sure...assuming I have a job and even so, it would be difficult in this economy.
Check out this site: http://thesleepybackpacker.com/travel-around-europefor-free/

>>130599789
Holy fuck, i'm not the only one !

>>130598375
Keep lying kebab.

Just because we're not in Serbia it doesn't mean I'm not coming through your window right now to explain why SERBIA STRONG.

All the racism in here is pretty sad. The UK has like a 3% muslim population and yet apparently we're being overrun by them?
It's almost like you americans believe what fox tells you, so that your government can demonise muslims to make them the new scapegoat now you can't blame communism, or before that the jews and the blacks.

>>130599776
This so much.

BBC4 doccy woccys are amazing for pseudo intellectuals like me.

I disagree regarding healthcare though. GPs don't wanna know, and dentists want to rape your wallet.

>>130599612
That's just how it is. They need to have suspicion that you have something dangerous on you, though. Of course, they can just make shit up and search you anyway.

Now I don't take any ID out with me at night. So, let them search me and I won't give them any of my information. If they're intimidating/corrupt, then just give out fake name and say you're homeless (I look scruffy at night anyway), so it's believable.

Britfags, do you have to pay for a fucking toothbrush license too? Do you get fined for brushing your teeth with toothpaste?

Pic related, British toothbrush

>>130600007
Yeah that's the 3% legal immigrants. There's probably like 15% in total and they'll only get sent back if they ever get arrested for something.

>>130591679
this, the burden of proof is on them, not you...

>>130600008
> GPs
Just keep hassling them. It is easier for them to fix you than have you keep making appointments. Current NHS structure is based around ignoring people who have minor issues, assuming they'll go away and deal with it.
(someone who has back problems but never books appointments at physiotherapy 'cause it's a pain)

>>130599112

>being forced to watch TV

What? No

>>130600170
[citation needed]

Seriously, I work with an Indian. He is a Muslim. Stop referring to this combo as "paki". At least get your shit straight if you're gonna be racist.

I hate religion and love racist jokes, but goddamn you fucking niggers get your facts straight. Hating Islam is not racist. Hating Indians is. Calling an Indian a Paki is just plain incorrect.

>>130600060

I carry lockpicks on me ever since I got locked out of my house and the sheer irony of my lockpicks being locked inside drove me fucking insane.

I'm not sure how legal that is. I recall something about "intent to use" or "no good reason for having them" or whatever but they sound vague as hell and mostly dependant on how good a mood the cop is in.

>>130600060
It used to be that you had to be suspected of terrorism and it all just got downgraded. They cut back on the paperwork they had to do to search people and now they just do it as they see fit. You can probably sue them for unreasonable use of powers.. but nobody has the money to do that

>>130600008
So close there friend. And the thing is that despite your experiences the NHS is actually rated as one of the better health systems in the world. It's more efficient than the US one by about 100% (Treatment in the US is 2x more expensive than it is in the UK) and yet we have better life expectancies and treatment speeds and stuff for actually important treatments are very fast.

>>130600138
There are an estimated 750000 illegal immigrants in the UK, with a population of 70 million.
That's about 1%

>>130600413
That can't be good...especially in the evening when everyone is in bed.

>>130600138

>"Richard Littlejohn is the greatest scholar and journalist of our generation"
>"The Sun keeps me informed"

>>130600007
fuck you must be like giga-james-bond

why do the brits always have this retarded xenophobia then claim to be morally superior? fuck you brits. you suck

im a paki

>>130600458
Check out my 0's

>>130599941
I'm just paranoid all the time.

>>130600219
>>130600551
I'm always made to feel like my pains are minor niggles and I shouldn't be wasting their time. BUT GODDAMN THAT FUCKING EARACHE I HAD FOR A WEEK MADE IT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SLEEP!

>>130600458
Yes but you can request a receipt of your search if you like. That's if they did the search formally (by logging it) and not just for the sake of humiliating you.

>>130600761
Imagine how stupid the average person is. Now realise that half of the population are more stupid than that. That's why people are racist and xenophobic. Every western nation thinks that they have immigration issues, when in actual fact its migrant workers keeping this country running, doing the shitty jobs that no one else would want to do.

>>130600851
Yeah that sort of thing sucks, but if you bitch long enough it'll get sorted out. Think though, which would you prefer, to live in a country where you have to bitch at your doctor to get your ear fixed but if you come down with cancer it gets treated for £10 per prescription, and they'll do a very good job of keeping you alive, or a country where you can see a doctor straight away (for a fee), and you'll get your meds (for a fee) and if you get cancer you have to pay literally millions to stay alive. Even if you have insurance you end up paying more even excluding the premiums than you do in the UK, because of copays and other bullshit.

>>130600851

Try and find a training practice and register at that.

The fact that all the GPs are in training / very recently completed training is offset by the fact that they aren't jaded and depressed after 40 years on the job and actually give a shit about what you say.

>>130598993
Well, as an organisation we're not perfect, and I know we have a bad reputation in a lot of places. All I can say is that myself and my particular force try extremely hard to undo the poor relationship between us and young people. I know the police have been assholes, and not great at their jobs, but I'd ask everybody to reconsider and judge us by what we do in the current, rather than the poor example set by some officers/forces in the past. I hope if you're ever involved with an officer, on either side of the law, that you at least understand that he/she is trying to do their job to the best of their abilities/powers. Please don't tar us all with the same brush. and most importantly, if you have a complaint, voice it LOUD AND CLEAR. Nothing will change until bad police officers are exposed.
As for not co-operating:
If you're not under suspicion/arrest, and you haven't been searched, you are not legally obliged to give us any details about yourself. Obviously, if you're a witness, we'd rather you stuck around and helped us out, but you don't have to.
Unless you're being detained for questioning/searching in relation to a current investigation, you don't need to tell us shit. And no, you don't have to have ID on you as a matter of course.

Too bad there's no point me going to the doctor about my depressing and social anxiety then. They'll just say deal with it yourself.

>>130600905
What good is the receipt? If they have the power to just do it frivolously.

It's like leaving your card after raping someone.

>>130601216
Hey, I wanna be a policeman (in the UK) What sort of qualifications do I have to have, and how fit do I have to be? I've seen some pretty fat beat policeman, and some pretty stupid ones)

>>130601305
Actually no, my sister is currently being treated for it, and its working. It turns out what she has is a pretty rare chemical imbalance and she's being paid for by the NHS to see a private specialist. It's all happening pretty promptly and its nice to see my lil sis getting better every day.

Talk to your GP and if he won't do shit ask to see another one instead.

>>130601305
see a female doctor or a doctor under 30

>>130601430
It's there to tell you why they did it and you can esquire about it further. You'll have no chance against them anyway should you take it to court.

why do people even watch broadcasted tv anymore? You can watch them on the internet, and it doesn't constrain your schedule/won't miss shows because of your schedule...

>>130599249
We're not making this shit up, causing alarm/harassment/distress to a member of the public is a crime, and rightly so. The problem is that coppers who aren't very good, or feel unsure, tend to throw the Public Order Act and related legislation around when it isn't appropriate. As for treating the public with contempt, I wouldn't do that, and nor would any officers I work with. End of the day, we're here to protect you, and help you in whatever way we can.
>>130599356
That's the sort of copper I'm talking about... I think a lot of officers, especially older ones tend to do this >>130599446

>>130599967
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EQJA8Ahac

That feel when somebody using an image I cropped and shopped, have the higher res version.

>>130601496
They're not really taking many people on anymore + cutbacks.

>>130601216

Hey I have a hypothetical.

If I get stopped by some corrupt cops who turn into assholes and either start forcefully going through my things without a reason and/or start roughing me up, and I fight back and kick their asses because in this hypothetical I'm a badass, how screwed am I? In a legal sense?

>>130601636
Yeah this is why I have 50/50 view on the police here.

>>130594251
>go to us
>watch tv
>ads getting cut off in the middle
>all types of shit quality
>2 of the same ad in a row
>40 seconds of the show for ever 2 minute ad

how the fuck do you watch TV? i download everything but i didnt have my pc there.

>>130601186
> That's why people are racist and xenophobic.

i realise that dude. people everywhere are just fucking shit. i don't let it bother me. life really is too short to let faggots ruin it all.

>>130601823
don't forget ads like this -
Welcome to show, on todays show thing thing and thing
>intro plays
>straight into adverts
and then at the end they have another fucking advert with a minute of content and then credits after the advert

>>130601636
>causing alarm/harassment/distress to a member of the public is a crime, and rightly so

can I get more details on this? It's sounds like a terrible law, just for the subjectivity of it. Someone could claim that he was causing them distress by filming them, but it would be bullshit to call that a crime...

>Licence for a fucking TV

Can someone explain this shit to an Amerifat?

Just in case yanks don't know (the conversation has veered to adverts), in the UK a half hour show has one ad break in the middle of it, an hour long one has 3. Roughly on the quarter hour.

>>130601994
>so much fat in your eyes that you can't even read a thread


fuck off

>>130601994
Check the links in the thread.

What a contrived fucking system. Stop trying to rationalize it brits. It's shit and you now it.

>>130602075
In France we used to have one break regardless of the length of the program, now it's one every 45 minutes on private channels and none on the public ones after 8h30 pm, i don't know how i should feel about that.

>>130602132
>Stupid euronigger who actually has to pay the government a fee to use something basic as a television

I'm just shocked that you faggots are willing to pay 145 dollars to avoid some god damn commercials.

Step the fuck up and buy a dvr

Jesus fuck Europe is an awful place. You people actually live in that shithole?

>>130601994

The licence pays for BBC media, who have about 10 TV channels and hundreds of radio channels in the UK, all ad free.

They have a mandate to provide interesting and educational programming and cultural stuff that wouldn't normally get shown because of ratings, as well as entertainment, and to provide unbiased news coverage. If an independent body decides they aren't fulfilling these goals the people in charge of commissioning programming and writing the news lose their jobs.

It's required by law that if you watch live TV you have to pay the licence.