29:30 general

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR2RTkrojco&feature=related

oh we're still hating this?

whatever. I have dragon dildo threads to spam. You all spam the same asinine posts as you always do.

>>124900988
Whats the context?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li4indfogkU&feature=related

>>124901267
im pretty sure this was some beta footage some dude shot and that cutscene was 29 min 30 sec into that footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=Rq-kVCP6ko4


lol

>>124901438
It doesn't seem... particularly bad?

You're still doing this? Get a life. You're more pathetic than the biodrones.

>>124901855

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj_32Cykmvg

>biodrones.avi

>>124902054

my sides

allright time for /v/

>three KS threads
>two Winter ball threads
>the usual generals
>two pizza threads
>That feel
>Dubs

This thread will have to do.

>>124902019
Still not seeing it. Was the video altered in any way?

the smuggler is the most boring and retarded class in tOR

don't even know whytthis game is so shit with 300 millikon dolalrs youd think they would actually WORK.

so many devs would be in haven with all that cash to Develop with.

>>124902434
It just looks bad when you compare it to any game released in the last seven years. Like the animators have never studied the 12 principles of animation.

>>124902671

I would have thought smuggler would be a good story since the counterpart, Imperial Agent is the best story. So what's the best Republic story? I've liked both Sith stories and Agent. BH isn't all that good, more like a cheesy 80s action movie like Predator or Running Man, but he has the coolest companions by far.

>>124902671
I think lvl20+ smuggler quests were all written by Hamburger Hepler. Which doesn't help.

Are there any MMORPGs with a nice combat system? Something like Skyrim, where you really feel like you just hit someone, TOR felt wrong. When I slash some cunt with a sword and he doesn't visibly block, I want him to fucking die. Not to stand there as if nothing happened.

>Bioware will never make another good game as long as they are with EA

>>124902970
there's the nexon korean stuff like Dragons Nest and Vindictus

also DCUO is nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7womRAFPDM

Dem camera angles.

>>124903086
Which translates to
>will never make another good game ever again

Once EA is done raping them they'll toss away the corpse.

It's funny because joining in on making fun of this piece of shit game is more fun than most of the games I have.

>>124903086
>as long as they are with EA

do you mean "as long as they are alive"?

>>124903141
vindictus is all instanced, so not quite an mmo, but a fun hack and slash nonetheless, source engine lets you throw pretty much anything at enemies, including dead enemies

>>124903224

Then get some better games. Like TOR.

>>124903224
so true

>>124903086
>EA
>Lucasarts

I wonder what could possibly go around by teaming up with these two.

>>124902671
>the smuggler is the most boring and retarded class in tOR
Every class is boring as shit. I've leveled two to 40+ and the rest to mid-twenties and thirties. I would sooner read fanfiction than sit through an hour more of SWTOR's terrible writing and presentation.

Best threads.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?s=91ed3821c9d88ce3f7866dee05c7ccf1&t=173992

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173847&highlight=ninja

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173768

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=154554&highlight=skipping+dialogue

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?s=a45f3e1497725278d54bf28974f83bd7&t=174031

These people are glorious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8KOcgS4c4Y

>>124903566
Is that supposed to be lava or magma?

can someone make a list of the bugs currently in this game?

>>124903673
not too important, bugs can be fixed.

Gamestyle (IE: Single player focus in an MMO) can't be

I don't understand why biodrones have to come into these threads and shit all over them saying the game is "good" or "fun"

Why can't they just let us have our fun?

>>124903673
Do it yourself. That's what you're paid for.

/v/ isn't here to fix your game, DLCwEAr.

The problem with MMO's

>>124903662

It's completely fucked up water because his graphics card is dying.

>>124903662
Neither. That is, in fact, water, and the best part is, is that it happened spontaneously without abusing alt-tabbing. I jumped down from the platform and the game flipped the fuck out.

>>124903306
>>124903141
Just watched Vindictus gameplay, looked quite fun.

>>124904117
That was my first thought, too. Recreated it on two different rigs, so I'm pretty sure I'm good.

I listen to this when i'm raiding.

It about sums up my mood. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM

If SWTOR is so bad, why are there multiple threads with hundreds of posts dedicated to its existence every day?

Bioware: 1
Biohatefags: 0

>>124904532
We can't help it, hating it is just so much FUN.

>>124904532
>If SWTOR is so bad, why are there multiple threads with hundreds of posts dedicated to its existence every day?
You actually don't read those threads do you?
Most of it is bashing the game, it's community and devs.

>>124904532

You notice how people like to watch unfolding disasters?

>>124904942

Then why do you get so mad when it keeps breaking sales records?

>>124903958
That's.... ridiculous.

>>124904869
He was making a funny, I'm pretty sure.
>2012
>Balancing your game world around glorified pets

Does anyone have the youtube video of the professor spazzing out?

>>124905092
oh I get it now, my mistake

>>124905234
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHPDjIvMsTo

>>124905078

I don't know if mad is the right word.

It's just amusing to see history repeat itself.

>>124905078
>sales records
Sales records do not mean shit in an MMO.
Warhammer sold a million copies early on and look what happened.

Subscriptions matter, and in the next two weeks most people's free month expires. The population then will be the sign of success or failure.

>>124904869
Bad publicity is still publicity
>>124904942
You notice how people still care about the holocaust and 9/11 despite there being worse events occuring, yet they're more know about because they got more attention, despite being bad things?
Bioware should be thankful that you people are giving so much of your time to publicise it.

>>124905078
>>124905078
WAR broke some records too
we all know how that turned out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xoOQdU3zMzM

I wish I had his game

>>124905511
that was the stupidest comment I have read on /v/ in at least 2 hours

If this game fails it could sink Biowares rep to salvageable levels especially if DA3 is shit and ME:3 is anti-climactic.

>>124905836
>Ad hominem
Typical /v/ user I see.

>>124905456
>>124905483
I forgot what such a great game Warhammer Online was.

>>124905511

>implying

>>124905338
>What was that!?
>Nothing, you never saw this!

How very ironic.

>>124905934

Technically is was just plain name calling, which is even lower than ad hominem on the ranks of arguments.

>>124905934
>typical /v/ user

You sound like you're not from around here. Where do you hail from then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oVMRADOq5s

>>124905511
so hermain cain should still be running?

>>124906100

I hail from Valhalla. Glory to Odin!

Is there anyway I can just play this game for free

I want to play it but do not want to spend any money on it whatsoever

Dedicated server?

>>124905760

>Marry Me

AHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

BUHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA OH MY GOD!

Fuck that.

>>124906280

Not yet. I'm sure there are people working on pirate servers.

>>124905511
>Bad publicity is still publicity
This is only true for single-payment games.
If SWTOR had been BTP (and been funded to be as such) it would have done fine, and would probably have made more money than it has (or will).

See, in single-payment games, people will chip out money just to see how bad something actually is. MMOs, on the other hand, require constant payments to keep playing, and thus are viewed more as an investment.

Thus bad publicity will two things:
1. People to not buy your game because they don't want to risk paying a lot of cash for a game they can play only a limited time, and even then might not get to experience the entirety of it.
2. Cause subscribers to cancel their subscription out of fear for such things affecting them.

The subscription-based MMO market is vastly different from the normal video game market. It is Bioware and EA's lack of understanding in this manner that is why SWTOR will fail.

>>124906280
yeah wait a year for F2P


also obligatory video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Z9LS5QgNY

>>124906100
I'm another /v/ user, I just find it funny how the typical person in these threads are just as stupid, if not worse than the people they post about.

>>124905760
>I wish I had his game
If I hadn't already given my account to someone on /v/, you could have it. Glad I didn't pay for this shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiczLzXRIjQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHPDjIvMsTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3_jQWQS1gs

Quality Bioware cinematics.

>>124905511
>yet they're more know about because
>yet they are more know about

Figured this is as good a thread as any..


I'm currently trying the Aion trial. I used to play during the beta. So far it looks like not too much has changed but I only just hit 10.

Anyone who has played it recently think I should give the game a try?

Im tired of WoW but not MMOs.

Hell I would love WoW if I hadnt been playing it for years already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtTTWfpWf_c&t=02m48s

>>124906677

If you don't mind grinding, go for it.

>>124906677
dubdubs

anyways, haven't tried Aion. I heard too many horror stories about grinding.

Have you considered Rift as well?

>>124903141
Fuck.
Even Maplestory has more of a hitting feeling to it.

>>124903958
all of my [/spoiler]wat[/spoiler]

>>124906429
Showing people the game exists is going to generate more attention, and probably more sales due to this, and there's already been people in these threads who have mentioned that they brought the game for a month just to see how bad it is. Although I do agree with you it'll be bad for them in the long run.
>>124906560
Oh god I'm so retarded and should double check before I post, my bad.

http://biodronesdarndest.tumblr.com/

>get the game from a friend
>set up account with random information including security questions
>have to enter security question whenever i want to log in

nice i just wanted to play for the initial free month...

If TOR keeps breaking sales records, how come we haven't heard anything beyond "hurr fastest growing MMO evar!!11!!!!1"?
We've reached the stage where Biodrone's pull false statements and numbers out of their ass to protect their precious investment

>>124905760

mako was walkin2 skewl wit her storm trooper n they were crossin da rode.
she sed “bbz will u luv me 4evr”
he said “NO..””
da gurl cryed N ran across da rode b4 da hepler came on the sine.
boy was cryin and went to pic up her body.
she was ded.
he whispered 2 her corpse “I ment 2 sey i will luv u FIVE-ever…” (dat mean he luv her moar den 4evr)
xxx~*…LIKE DIS IF U CRY EVRY TIME…~*xxx

MY SIDES

>>124906935
grinding is pretty much the definition of MMO, so I dont mind it. As long as the grind is somewhat interesting.

>>124906953
I actually own rift, but havent paid for a subscription.

There are things I really like about the game but the lack of low level players (it seemed) was really killing it for me.

I played recently for 3 days by filling out that security thing.

>Mass Effect 1
>romance person until you get to sex scene
>sex scene includes nudity

>Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age 2
>romance person until you get to sex scene
>sex scene has no nudity, just underwear

>SWTOR
>romance person until you get to sex scene
>sex scene is just a fade to black

You know... for the one thing that kind of set them apart from others they are sure shootin themselves in the foot.

Soon it will just be some handshake, then a handshake with gloves on.

>>124907613

It's pretty interesting if you roll the right classes. For starters, Rangers & Spiritmasters have it easy. Same goes clerics (Almost impossible to take down) and to a lesser extent chanters.

>>124906551
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypd2rDjJWU#t=4m50s

Here's an honest opinion from someone who bought the retail CE edition.

The game did seem good, it really did, sure it was obvious some bugs would be at launch, and such things, but hey, Bioware is gonna fix it, right?

The game launches, luckily I have my week off from work (was actually random) so I was all over this shit, I played all the way to 50 long before anyone else, my guild was around the same level too, so we were all raid-ready pretty fast. (pre-launch guild full of "pro" mmo players)

We pretty much clear everything pretty fast (we are among the world first still to clear most content except for the hardest mode, nightmare mode)

Slowly, it all starts to flash back, I quit WoW cause I was tired of doing the same shit every single day (5 years)

Then I realized it.. That's what I'm doing, I'm doing dailies, do my shit, log out, log on later, raid, log out.

So it made me realize this is WoW, this is 100% WoW with another skin.

So I have exams and shit, so I don't log on for a 3-4 days time, I still check out the forums though, and oh, what the fuck is that? Bioware has no fucking clue how to balance their classes, I read their latest "update" on Marauders and Juggernaughts, which is fucking retarded, with the little faith there's left in me, I check another dev post, whats that? Oh, someone complaining about bad textures, surely Bioware will fix this? NOPE! "in the future" which means fucking never.

Which leads me back to Stephen Reid, he once said during an interview "I just want the game to stay alive, thats the goal right now"

THAT'S YOUR GOAL? TO STAY ALIVE? WHAT ABOUT CONTENT? WHAT ABOUT BALANCING? WHAT ABOUT SOME ACTUAL PLAYER SUPPORT?

Back to my guild, I speak with the GM, since I've been afk (not because of -me-) 5-7 people are online at a time (this is a guild with 30 members)

This shit is sinking, and I'm sad it is but honestly I have no idea what Bioware is doing because this is just..Wow.

>>124907367
so get this anon, lend me your ear.

the geniuses at bioware have decided that server forums are too much and all servers will be under one forum. if you wish to make a post in that forum you have to [server name] TOPIC, same goes for their new and improved guild and event forums.

the best thing is that biodrones think that bioware is doing them a favor

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=173672

>>124907935
Im not much of a pvper (I tried one during the three days, there were 3...THREE people on my team)

I just dont want to pay for a month and find out the game is pretty dead unless you are level capped

>>124908139
what server are you on?

Siel is dead as fuck

>>124908139

I'm talking about the ease of grinding, not PvP. The aforementioned mentioned classes are good at killing elites. (which net a ridiculous amount of XP)

>>124908277
wolf-something. i went to a site with populations and transferred to the highest one

>>124907118
Take a look at this from VGChartz:
http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales-data/31584/star-wars-the-old-republic/

A game that sells on the first week as well as SWTOR does should not have this much off a fall-off.
Not to mention the number of subscribers in-game has steadily been falling, as well (and we're not even past the "free" month).

SWTOR is getting a fuck ton of publicity (both good and bad), yet sales and subscriptions are doing nothing but falling. It seems like when it comes to this game, no amount of publicity is helpful.

>>124908024
That's what happens to all the WoW killers man. We've all been burnt.

>>124908024
Pretty interesting

>>124908464

What are you talking about?

Every single MMO that's come out since WoW has fall-off nearly the same as this.

70% of the population leaves after the free month.

>>124908407
sorry, usually when i see something like "impossible to take down" i assume pvp.

i think i was a level 19 healer by the end of the 3 days

>>124908464
>using vgchartz as a source

haha oh wow.jpg

I can't get over Bioware's explanation for the textures.

When you consolidate textures into atlases, you're supposed to make the atlas roughly as big as all the textures combined. So if you stuck 4 512x512 textures onto one 1024x1024 (4x the size) the textures don't lose resolution, the memory footprint (size) doesn't change, but drawcalls go down.

All games do this.

How the fuck was this an excuse for suddenly shrinking your texture atlases until everything looks like ass? Atlasing your textures doesn't force you to bring the resolution down.

I know that it's probably the hero engine being different from every other engine in not being able to handle big enough textures to atlas properly, but they won't admit it that their engine is so horrible that it single handedly ruins the most expensive game ever made.

Instead they act like this is some special sacrifice that has to be made for making an MMO, all you have to do is google Tera Online or Planetside 2 to see how full of shit Bioware is. Yet Biodrones won't do they, they refuse to aknowledge the existence of any modern MMO that looks better than SWTOR.

After Bioware inevitably gets liquidated by EA I hope this follows them and they never get another job in the industry, I want to see hamburger helper working in a tollbooth.

>>124908695
it's the same company that couldn't do anti-aliasing in a modern game

It baffles the mind

>>124908694
If you have a better source by all means show us

>>124908447
you should have a decent population then, especially with double xp shit.

>>124908915
was unaware of a double xp thing in rift.

I do have to admit one thing though

"Most aggressive update cycle" is fucking right.

I get emails about new shit CONSTANTLY

>>124907907
And then a respectful nod?

>>124908694
>implying vgchartz isn't credible
Shit, almost every person in the video game industry who deals with the business end has that site as one of their primary sources.

>>124908561
That's the point. Every MMO since WoW has had this shit happen, and now even the "great" SWTOR, with all its overbudgeting and time, still managed to have that shit happen.

There have been no successful subscription-based MMOs since WoW. That's why the FTP (and BTP) model is becoming so big in the West nowadays.

>>124909490

GUIZE wow is DEAD look at teh dropp offf loooook at ittttttttttttt

>>124909815
>comparing video game expansion pack sales to video game launch title sales.
>Being this retarded in the year of our lord 2012.

>>124909815
That's an expansion pack isn't it?

>>124908858
To be fair it's the Hero Engine's fault, it's horrendous, it's so reliant on cpu time yet it can't even handle multicore cpus, your quad/hexacores are useless the thing just bottlenecks on one core. I wouldn't be surprised if the blocky shadows or AA weren't gpu accelerated at all in the engine.

Someone at EA made the decision to use it, there had to be early warning signs when they started working with Hero and realized how terrible it was, the coders had to of known and said something.

I can only guess that someone too powerful to question fought to keep using the engine, and now that this all fell apart they'll get what they deserve.

This is worse than DA2 ever was, DA2 had bad content, SWTOR has bad content and an engine that can't even do the basics right.

>>124910037
>>124910187
>DATZ COMPLETLY DIFFERENT GUIZE its an expansion

Oh you kids crack me up

>>124910212
what are you talking about?
It's innovation at its best.
Those lush shadows are clearly a intended feature

>>124908038
Holy fuck. How many servers did this POS have? 120?

>>124910311
but it is
you can play WoW without expansions

>>124910212
>the coders had to of known and said something.

Bioware fire their coders pretty fast as soon as they have done their part.

>>124910212
oh god those shadows

someone must have photoshopped space invaders in there as a joke

right guys?

guys?

IT BEGINS.

>>124908024
Thanks for your input mate.

GUYS.
I WANT A GIRLFRIEND WHO LIKES SHITTY MMOS.
HOW DO

>>124909815
>Cataclysm
>third expansion for a seven year game
>sells almost as much as SWTOR
Holy fucking shit. Bioware what the fuck are you doing? You can't even outsell and expansion pack.

Also, I'm not sure if those who bought the game online through Battle.Net are counted in that figure.
I'd say the same for SWTOR, but their claim of first week sales was around the same amount as what vgchartz said, so I'm not sure. That or no one bought the game on Origin because it's, well, Origin.

>>124910212
>To be fair it's the Hero Engine's fault

It really isn't
Bioware is a successful game developer. They should've known better.

>>124909815
>one of many expansion packs for WoW
>comparing to SWTOR overall
>implying SWTOR is not terrible if WoW does the same
>biodrone
>grasping
>straws

>>124910311
Your game is going to die and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>124910866

Not to mention their whole rise to fame came from how they MADE engines

>>124910439
>ITz compretely different guize im telling you cause people are still teh lvling in Wrath... oh wait

>>124910893
lol I love how you got proven wrong and now you jump to
>you is game will die wahhhhh

IS IT LEGAL TO KEEP A SMALL BIODRONE IN YOUR HOUSE AS A PET, LIKE A DOG?

>>124910985

>Typical Biodrone thinking that LEVELING is the main draw to an mmo

>>124910522
Those shadows destroy your framerate regardless of your $500 video cards or $1000 cpu's.

It's an innovative feature called shitty shadows.

>>124905078
because that's like someone getting pulled from their shoes by tornadoes.

>>124910870
>claim ToR is dead because of sales drop off
>get shown evidence all mmos have this, even wow the most successful
>WAHHH ITZ DIFFURENT, U... U... u biodrone

Stay classy faggot

>>124911103

Arguing with me won't save your game.

>>124910395
>read your comment
>look back at the picture
Somehow I didn't notice those shadows.
I must admit, the innovation required to make you shadows look like that is...staggering.

>Google Hero Engine out of curiosity
>Find out it was made by Simutronics
>Simutronics

What in the holy fuck am I reading? Those assholes could barely make a MUD work. How the shit did they figure they should do graphics at all?

>>124911156
>Typical retard who has no reading comprehension.

I didnt say anything like that at all, idiot.

Blunder of the century

>>124910212

>someone too powerful to question fought to keep using the engine
http://www.heroengine.com/2011/11/heroengine-meets-starwars/
>There are whole sections of code that is only roughed in and not optimized for performance or security.
>We can finish it ourselves.
>We were concerned over their making major changes to our engine, but we loved the size of the check that came with the deal.

titanic

As I look at this I can't help but chuckle.

I chuckle at BioWare for being so gullible.

Hero Engine fucked them hard on one end and Lucas railed them on the other end.

I would pity them if I didn't think they deserved it.

>>124910866
Old Bioware would of.

New Bioware obeys orders from the higher up, anyone from old Bioware who knew better would of been fired by now.

TOR will be a ghost town at the end of the free month

>>124911378

>use games expansion pack to back up your bad argument
>not realizing the insane amount of hype and advertising BioWarEA put into TOR
>not realizing everyone is laughing at the fact that it had such a gigantic drop yet it still had a giant hype machine and advertising budget

dem biodrones man, can't into logic

>there will never be a good Star Wars MMO

Need some new content from the forums.

There has to be a mountain of Biodrone vs regular SWTOR player gold waiting to be found.

>>124912022
>still uses the hurrr game expansion point even though its been refuted
>again ignoring the fact that all games, especially mmos suffer huge drop off

lol keep it up son, I sure do love tearing down talking points that have already been proven wrong.

>>124912343

He's trying really hard to troll. Just ignore him.

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>>124912323
Anyone else feel bad for the normal SWTOR players? Like the guys who bout the game and generally want it to be better, but get shot down and ridiculed by Biodrones

>>124911653
>Bioware
>thinking they can program
While programming an engine from scratch, especially for an MMO, is a titanic task, even greater than that of making a normal engine, "fixing" an engine can be much harder

The problem is, when you are trying to "fix an engine," that means you have to read through what the initial programmer did, take time to understand it, and then modify it to both do what you want, as well as optimizing it. There is a certain point where you end up changing so many things, that it would have been simply better to build it yourself.

Now, I'm not saying Bioware needed to build their own engine. That would have been just as bad of an idea (possibly even worse). However, they should not have bought a license to an engine that needed so much overhaul. I have no idea what engine would have worked better, but surely there was more than one option that was better than HeroEngine.

>use shittarded old schoolisms like specific servers, with characters fixed onto a specific server at creation
>not using glorious server-threading/virtualising to distribute all players across multiple hardware but giving the appearance of one large server where players can simply access their character
>2012
>300 million

>Not posting the superior movie trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaKvPPQPuKw

>>124912618
Source?

>>124912785
ea supports sopa and ea owns bioware. do the math