Is it just me, or is Bioware's entire attitude towards this MMO been entirely comprised of 'Fuck you, pay me'?

lol @ haters like OP grasping at straws now

>next-gen MMOs

No forums
No UI mods
No addons
No anti-aliasing
No macros
No endgame

BUT. I will tell you the one thing TOR -does- have.

Queues.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/21/bioware-swtor-queues-are-here-to-stay/

>THE WAIT IS OVER
>OVER
>OVER
>OVER

>>121604159
>Bioware in charge anything

...why are the people in that picture holding up Brotherhood of Nod insignia?

>>121604355
>>121604355
you cant be srsly....

>this omission has rankled some players who were looking forward to talking amongst their new communities on the site.
>omission has rankled some players who were looking forward
>has rankled some players
>rankled
>RANKLED

>>121604355
>Editing down one cheek to be semi-normal and cleaning up the face.
>Keeping the other cheek and the neck as fat as before while leaving the skin disgustingly plastiline

Good God someone needs to fix that.

Yeah, /v/ is full of haters...
they have probably never played the game

let me tell you something, it's amazing
you are all just jealous because you can't pirate it

>>121604798
If I had paid cash money for TOR I'd be pretty rankled too

>OP in charge of not being a unfunny retard

>pre-order the game months ago
>preorder fee
okay, I have the money, it sure is for patches, they are thinking of us gamers!
>see all these news
>more and more disappointments
>more...and more....and even more
>can't cancel preorder

>>121604620
>no one will be playing our game in a month anyway, let's just not add any more servers.

>>121605529
We warned you about how bad this game would be.

You should have listened to us.

>>121605115
This.

Played it during one of the beta weekends and it was pretty fucking fun. Looks like everyone here is just riding each other's dicks, as usual.

>>121606497
Oh Jesus Christ that's worse than the DA2 stuff.

>>121606600
>I want to be the starship

Fucking lost it

>>121606497
>I'm ex-catholic now satanist
>Satanism is about freedom and endulgment

>>121604756
I... I've got some bad news.....

>>121606497
no shit?

SWTOR sucks fucking ass. The only good MMO out there worth playing is World of Warcraft and MAYBE Rift. But even Rift isn't even that amazing. Maybe for free, or 5$ a month, but not 15$, not even close.

>>121606600

>I want to be the starship [Attack]

>>121607023
No. No shit.

>>121607023

>I have to log on at a specific time to not hit queues
>The game is perfect

>>121607081
>The only good MMO out there worth playing is World of Warcraft

If it's a private server running BC maybe.

>>121606497
You know that's technically true what that guy said.
Also whilst the sith may be assholes they don't repress other ideologies, abduct children (as much), force their own order to abandon certain emotions or follow a set of rules so strictly that RESCUING CHILDREN got 6 jedi knights KICKED OUT OF THE ORDER.
In the books set after ep 6 supposedly Luke's new jedi order basically says fuck that to most of the jedi code because he realised it was all basically insane nonsense.
>We do what the force wants! Its a living thing with a will that can do things on its own and it only lets the sith, force witches and other non-jedi force sensitives use it to test us!

>>121607154

>>121607249

I know WotLK and Cataclysm weren't the best expansions, but WoW overall destroys these other MMO's by far. Blizzard just knows how to fucking make games. These other companies are wasting time, effort and money trying to compete but they cant.

>>121607415

Too bad Blizzard died in 2007.

>>121607274
You are trying to have a debate about aspects of a religious order who exist only in fiction.

You are actually trying to defend Fictional Religion Number One as superior to Fictional Religion Number Two.

Are you completely fucking retarded? These things aren't real, you fucking genius, and the only reason for someone to engage with them as closely as you have is if you are autistic.

>>121606847
well it is....
ive read the satanic bible twice now.
though really even bringing up the fact that youre a satanist kinda ruins it, the whole point is to just BE it without really drawing attention to yourself

>>121607473

How so? Starcraft II seems to be doing very well, as WoW, and Diablo III coming out. I'd say they're doing very well actually.

>>121607415
WotLK was okay but went downhill at the end. ICC was okay but it didn't save it.
Cataclysm was shit and people who defend it are blizzdrones.
>Blizzard just knows how to fucking make games
Oh fuck my sides

>>121607203
nooooo shit

>>121607580

>>121607573
Are you retarded? You're on /v/. Have you been here for more than 3 days?

>>121607645
No. None whatsoever.

>>121604355
>Bioware doesn't include the disk in retail copies.
>Grasping at straws.

>>121607710
pic related

>>121607741
forgot my lack of shit

>>121607580
>>121607661
>Freedom
>Obeying a book

Pick one

>>121607612

Starcraft 2 is running on the fumes of its hype wave. No one's really interested in the next expansion. WoW has lost 2 million subscribers in the last year or so. WoW's decline is so alarming to Blizzard that they're giving Diablo 3 away free to WoW subscribers if they pay with an annual subscription. They're basically using Diablo 3 to try and sell WoW.

>>121606987

Go on

>>121607643

I didn't enjoy Firelands, but the first instances were average, at best. And ICC and RS were decent raids, but nothing amazing.

Oh so you're saying Blizzard makes shitty games eh? Interesting.

>>121607573
I have nothing better to do and I'm tired of debating the ideologies of real religions.
In my country putting Jedi on your tax return as a religion is valid so "Fictional Religion" is technically incorrect anyway.
>>121607580
I didn't mean about the satanist shit i meant about the star wars shit.
I don't know a damn thing about satanism other than what i learned from a satanist i used to play WC3 with.

>>121607580
Yes, you're edgy. Yes, we're impressed. Yes, all the girls will have sex with you when you tell them you've read the Satantic Bible.

No, no-one will think you're trying too hard. No, we certainly don't think your attention-seeking is pathetic. No, we don't remotely wish you'd all just shut the fuck up about how you're all ex-Catholics but now you're totally Satanists even though you never made it past the first five pages of LaVey.

There. Now you never have to post again.

>>121607741
>watch how fast this topic will be closed.
>END OF RINE

Stay classy, Bioware.

>>121607081
Yeah, no.
EVE is the only MMO worth playing.

>>121607822
It's pretty clear that's a samefag, bro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ11Hj94lm4

GW2 PvP (level 1)

vs.

SWToR PvP (level 33)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqly4IJuDVw

>>121607874
>Oh so you're saying Blizzard makes shitty games eh?

>>121607905
>I have nothing better to do and I'm tired of debating the ideologies of real religions.

Since this is /v/, your opinion on any religion is of exactly no fucking relevance. How about you debate games]?

>In my country putting Jedi on your tax return as a religion is valid so "Fictional Religion" is technically incorrect anyway.

Stop trying so hard.

Additionally, from your grasp of English it is quite clear that you are *not* the person I was replying to.

>>121607863
Bioware is making the next Command And Conquer: Generals game, And probably alot more Command And Conquer games in future....

>>121607643
>that feel when you are the only person in the world that thinks Yogg Saron was, by far, the best boss in that expansion

>>121608033

Bahahaha wow. EVE is fucking terrible. I got bored with that shit after 10 minutes. It's a massive clusterfuck. Sometimes /v/, sometimes you guys play the worst games.

>>121604620
Why do they have so many servers? Be better to just consolodate them all and use that server juice to have servers with lots of people on them.

And make them PvP so you can get some epic battles.

>>121608033

No MMO is worth playing. Period. The whole point of an MMO is to be additive, not enjoyable.

>>121607741

END OF RINE

OLD MEN OF THE ANGRY VARIETY.

>OP not being a Bioware employee
good work still

>>121608258
It's the only MMO with PvP. That makes it better than any other MMO by default.

How many times do we need to go over this: You do NOT buy an MMO at launch. You wait a month to let the initial rush settle and for objective reviews to come out so you can rationally evaluate whether it makes sense to buy the game or not.

Oh wait... this is /v/... idiots here will just pre-order any random shit because they're irrational faggots.

>You will never play vanilla wow and Final Fantasy XI: CoP for the 1st time again

Remember when MMOs were good?

>>121608232

I agree, don't worry. Ulduar was by far the best dungeon in WotLK. Also, don't mind me, just killing that dragon boss that was bugged on the first day of the dungeon on 10 man mode. My guild's "top" priest and druid were trying to 2 man heal it and failing constantly, so the GM called in me and this other priest and we killed that fucker first time. Holy shit that priest was good. It's a shame I got relegated to being the guild Boomkin.

LET'S GET THIS SHIT STARTED

>We want Skyrim's audience!

>>121608186
But... i do debate games.
I am here in a star wars game thread debating religions that are depicted in those games.
How is this not related to the game?
Also i am that person whether you believe me or not, hardly matters since its all anonymous anyway. I can't prove shit to you.
I could ramble on about the empire being good and the rebels being evil for a bit if you want.

Oh hey.

>>121606600

>I want to be the starship

>>121608681
Oh heyyy.

>>121604159
Kudos to the image editor, darth vader facepalming is classy as fuck.

>>121608289

Ragnarok was back in the day.

I just looked at the race selection in TOR. And wow.

Normal humans.
Red humans.
Blue humans.
Green humans.
Bald gray humans.
Blind humans.
Cyborgs (humans with implants).
The Darth Maul things (humans with horns).
And Twi'leks, for all the cybersex faggots.

Star Wars is all about a huge diversity of races and species. What is this bullshit? In Galaxies you could be Rodian, Ithorian, Wookies, even the Admiral Ackbar things.

>>121608232

No you're not. Ulduar was the only proper raid in that expansion, and the last proper raid Blizzard has released. Everything after it has been worthless shit. Yet for some strange reason they think they have to nerf the game to the ground so everyone can "experience" their shit content.

>>121608820
You're a little late aren't you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p2WiLznFeA

>2011
>That sand
>No tracks
>Dark Heal
>Everyone's standing around

>>121608289
I kinda enjoy DCUO, combat system is pretty good

>long queues at launch like every other major MMO
>no individual server forums even though next to no major MMOs actually do that
>no criticisms of actual game content
>say game is terrible

Stay classy, /v/.

It's like DA2 all over again

>Comes out
>Most of /v/ hates it
>Some like it or don't think it's all so bad I'm so sorry /v/
>People arguing that it's fun and that you're a witcher babby if you don't like it
>a few months later everyone realizes it was shit
>a few still don't think it raped their mothers but it was still bad

And don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>121609091
>That uploader comment about the budget
I smiled, that was the best youtube comment I've seen in a long time even if it had a smiley face on it.

>>121609215
see
>>121609091
>>121608117

The game is an embarrassment.

>>121609215

Okay here's some, It’s a wow clone yes it a fucking clone as in carbon copy and that’s just one.

>>121609091

FIGHT IS INNOVATE, 2DEEP4U 2DEEP4U

-Bioware.

>>121608540
I'd dare to argue that Ulduar was the best single dungeon in WoW

It just had an amazing combination of interesting yet difficult bosses, fantastic looks and pretty darn good lore

even the armor sets were pretty good looking

>>121609259
>It's not a perfect game
>10/10
These people are not very smart.

>>121608511

>EVE
>It's the only MMO with PvP.

>>121609091
>Dark Heal

HAHAHAHAHA

OH WOW

>>121609215
The game is terrible and there are plenty of gameplay criticisms.
-shit PvP
-static combat
-horrid animations
-instanced as fuck game world
-uninspired classes
-code debacle
-simple talent trees
-lack of end game

>>121609677

>>121608681
>>121608755
these still get me, EVERY TIME

>>121609681
What game have you played?

>>121608531
>You will never play Final Fantasy XI: CoP for the 1st time again

Fuck you dude ;___;

no, i don't.

>>121609654
Babby instanced PvP doesn't count as PvP.

>>121608945
parts of ICC felt like a real raid. You could feel the spirit was still there, though dying

TOC just left a very bitter taste in the mouth of wow fans

>>121609091

>everybody is standing around holding lightsabers while using ranged attacks
>only about three people meleeing

So is this like WoW only everybody is a hunter?

>>121609677
>>121609762
>Dark Heal

Is this some kind of joke, or is this an actual spell in TOR?

Because if so, wow

>>121609826
SWTOR, buddy.

>>121609677
Yeah that was terrible.
They could have just had heal.
Or get this, they could have instead of given them healing given them buffs and debuffs that reduced the amount of damage the enemy did and granted lifesteal to their allies, thus still being "I AM THE DARK LORD OF EVIL FROM BADVILLE" that bioware thinks can't ever heal and providing an interesting alternative to the other support classes.

>>121608564
if they wanted skyrims audience the gameworld would be wide open and the combat would be decent

I'd just be riddled with bugs

>>121609091
>>121609677
>>121609762
>>121609992
>Dark Heal

>>121609849

Hi there, Warhammer Open RvR here.

Oh wait, you mean that EVE is the only game with Somalia-class anarchy, I'm sorry.

>>121610021
>>121609992
it wouldn't even have been to hard to include a neutral heal

heck in D&D healing had been part of necromancy for a long while

>>121609992
It's a real spell.

>>121610098
>Somalia-class anarchy
As if it is bad thing.

>>121610021
>lifesteal/siphon/buffs

That's exactly what I was thinking. There are ways to get around "Dark Heal"

>>121610098
oh wow..... played eve for more than 15 minutes?

>>121610092
>Dark Heal

>mfw My game didn't come with a registration code

I should have listened to /v/.

>>121610291
yes but after 30 minutes it finally cured my insomnia

>>121610045
http://gematsu.com/2011/12/bioware-dragon-age-3-will-draw-from-skyrim

>>121610383

>>121610389
>Don’t admire Bethesda, a company that release broken games. DA2 had it’s faults but it wasn’t broken.

No it was a pile of horse shit.

>>121610318

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114841-The-Old-Republic-Ships-Without-Registration-Codes

BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY!

>>121610318
You've only got two days to get a refund, dude. Do it now.

I don't know what's worse: the guys who defend this game like there's no tomorrow and claim it to be God's gift to mankind or the ones that nitpick about every little thing and complain like it's gamebreaking shit

>>121610389
not if they put their local rhino on the writing team

Dragon Age lore doesn't even begin to compare to TES lore and bethesda fans usually don't give 2 shits about romance options

and if they are stupid enough to release a TES like game without an adequate construction kit like modding tool it will fail pretty hard

>>121610214
If anything I think healing is more appropriate to the dark side.
Remember, Light Side is more about restricting your own feeling and discipline, the Dark Side is more about embracing your emotions and the power they bring.
Healing is something I would relate more with emotion than cool thinking,

>>121610644
Just when i thought it couldn't get any worse

>Dark Heal

This game sucks. Star Wars should be ashamed of themselves

>>121610021
It's easier to change a word than change mechanics. People would have then said that jedi are OP because they have a direct heal.

>>121610389

Well why not.

Skyrim sold like crazy.

>>121610289
A spell that drains life from enemies and gives it to allies.
A lifesteal buff or aura.
Raising the dead as evil force zombies who taunt enemies, giving your characters time to heal themselves using the lifesteal whilst the zombies act as an indirect shield.
Some kind of psychic assault that reduces the damage enemies do, or even stuns them to prevent damage output.
A spell the causes some of the damage a target takes to be nullified and transferred to an enemy or ally nearby.
A spell that partially blinds an enemy giving them a miss chance.
This is all off the top of my head and most of it is stolen from WoW anyway.

>>121610723

Sure is Warhammer Online again

>Take fan-loved IP
>give to EA
>Gut and fire team
>Give to incompetents
>little as possible done to make it anything but hypetrained
>sell at hyperinflated prices
>anyone still on the project promoted and anyone good is fired months before it launches

>>121610644

Jesus Christ someone just kill them already this is like watching a dog chock to death.

>>121604159
>next-gen MMO
Star Wars isn't a next gen MMO it's World of Warcraft with better Storytelling and the same everything else.

Guild Wars is going to be a next-gen MMO get your facts straight man

>Dark Heal

As opposed to Light Heal I suppose?

The funny thing about TOR is they actually disabled digital downloads temporaily. They said too many people were playing their game, and no more copies will be going out until tomorrow.

>BioWare refusing your money.

HOW MUCH MORE OF A BIODRONE CAN YOU BE?!

I am frankly jelly at bioware for spitting out this shit and people are so incredibly stupid that they praise you for it and even wants to pay more monthly for shit

I don't understand, OP. Makes sense to me. Theres like 100 servers.

Game's pretty good so far. Hit 25 last night. Finished Taris and got my speeder. Way too many rakghouls but some of the quests were godtier, especially the callbacks to KOTOR. Probably gonna tank a few flashpoints tonight, then hit Nar Shadaa. I'd give the game something like 8/10 so far. Honestly both sides of this argument care way too much. Play it or don't.

>>121610912

I love biodrones defending the game saying it already has over 500k subs, WAR had 1.3 mil on release and look what happened


i was one fo them

I thought it couldn't get worse than FF4.0

oh boy

>>121610907
He has a point you know.
The force power that extend's people's lives is a dark side one.
Saving lives is AGAINST the Jedi ruleset in most cases.
If anything most healers would surely be those swamp witches that ride Rancors and use force powers.

>>121610720
The thing that makes the TES games is the lore.

It's really what's so compelling about them. Dragon Age (origins mind you) had a cool setting and all and it fit well with the story. But TES is definitely up there in terms of vidya lore and DA is not.

>>121611079
>biodrones

>>121611163
But FFXIV is STILL far worse than this you silly.

>>121610979
Quick! Someone shoop bioware into that gif of the dog getting hit by shovel.

>>121610888
and besides they don't even need all that shit

I mean healing someone is only as good or evil as its intended use. And Bioware doesn't even need to be smart enough to get that, almost every single god damn pen and paper RPG already has that in their rules

Adding "dark" to a spell to make it seem sinister works about as well as dressing a 12 year old up in a black cape

>>121609091
wow... just wow, I mean the only people that are moving around just seem to be doing it because there is nothing else to do.

and do casters really cast with a lightsaber out? that shit just doesn't make sense.

also the graphics look worse than WoW, heard the game doesn't even have anti aliasing.

>>121611079
>>121611079
>>121611079
>>121611079
>>121611079
FUCK.

that aint right

>>121607643
Deathwing raid was fun as shit and hard as fuck, no I'm not talking about the spoonfed LFR version either. Stay assmad Wrathbabies

>>121610912

Yeah but the thing is all the WH fans left very quickly. I'm still uncertain on Dark Millennium, 40k has a massive fan base so a lot of pressure is on them.

>>121611292

It really isn't though

i've played both

>>121611399
>Deathwing
Most underwhelming boss in WoW history.

>>121609091

>Constantly post low level world boss fights

Now it's just getting old.

I think I know what happened.
EA being the cheap jews they are, probably decide to print the boxes early probably together with another game's batch to get a better price for quantity, and decided to wait later to add the serial codes.
Looks like some of they forgot about adding the code to some of the batches and games ended up being sold without it.
Serves them well.

>>121611355
>as dressing a 12 year old up in a black cape
Thats what they were going for with the TOR version of the sith.
TOR is like AdventureQuest Worlds.
Good and Evil unite against Chaos.
Everyone is children, Evil is Good but dressed in black and Chaos is Evil dressed in a different shade of black.

>>121610389
>We want CoD's audience!
>We want Starcraft's audience!
>We want Skyrim's audience!

HOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW

LISTENING TO YOUR OWN FUCKING AUDIENCE

THEY ALREADY LIKE YOU WHY DON'T YOU JUST LISTEN TO THEM

GODDAMMIT BIOWARE

>>121611194
true, the lore

and the mods

they're not going to be able to create a modding community the size of TES fans overnight and they sure as hell aren't going to suddenly match the lore of TES. I'd be surprised if they could create a piece of lore as interesting as the Dwemer lore

Guys stop complaining about the queue times. This shit happens for EVERY big launch like this.

i mean fucking look at skyrim ffs

where is the screen where they blame /v/ for the bad metacritic scores, while every positive review is 10/10 advertising shit?

>>121611570
>Implying the 'late' bosses are any better

Now it's just getting old.

I really don't get the hate for this game. DA2 was bad but jesus fucking christ. /v/ hates this more than it hates My Little Pony.

That attitude is amazing

>I know you bought the game, gave us money for a product and service. However, we don't want to spend any of that money back on you.

I didn't buy the game, but fuck these guys. Any one that does return business with this company is asking them to mistreat you and to not offer a better product.

>>121611570

ITS ALL THE SAME SHIT BRO.

>>121611448

If you've played both then you'd realize how much more shitty 4.0 is compared to this.

There's nothing worse than 4.0.

>>121611399
DW was killed 3 IDs after release. I myself Killed him in Normal 25 on First try with only one Tank because the second fell of the Cliff and we couldn't br him.

Lich King would have raped us but DW dosn't care

>>121611660
>LISTENING TO YOUR OWN FUCKING AUDIENCE
They are unfortunately. Why not just release Visual Novels and cut the middle man out is beyond me.

>>121610723

.......

are retarded, 9 yo, or high?

>>121611570
yet wow has interesting low level bosses somehow

>>121611570

Have you seen the Malgus fight? It's terrible.

>>121611706
There is already a dragonagenexus. There has been for a long time.
DA2 doesn't have many mods since it is harder to mod but DA:O had quite a few interesting ones if i recall.
I think there was even one that had Baldur's Gate camera style and combat mechanics worked in.
It's not really a stretch to believe they could get the community modding.

>>121611887
high, Sorry i'll stop poising

>>121611292
FF4.0 is actually somehow better than this, as unbelievable as it may seem. Plus, SWTOR will never have as awesome of raid music as this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpftrjYCzpA

I even pre-ordered both collectors editions AFTER playing the beta of each. Forever Buyers Remorse.

>>121611157
Oh yeah, plot spoilers for those who care.

Turns out Rakghouls are force sensitive, and growing rapidly more intelligent. The Rakghoul plague likely originated from dark side sorcery.

Rukil's people found Paradise, but it was destroyed in Malak's attack on Taris, forcing them to resume wandering. Their tribe eventually ran out of Rakghoul vaccine and gradually died off, until eventually they were rendered sterile by radiation

The government of Taris froze themselves in carbonite in a huge underground vault programmed to wake them up when the Republic retook the planet

>>121611446

They left because the game wasn't even finished yet,funny thing is, WAR had a lot of similarities with TOR, shittym engine(even though WAR's graphics were way better than TOR's) unstable servers, lag, bad support, lack of endgame, only thing other than the graphics that WAR did better was PVP and it introduced public quests.They're bad games carried by their fanbase

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114841-The-Old-Republic-Ships-Without-Registration-Codes

>BOXES SHIPPED WITHOUT THE GAMES IN IT
>BIOWARE QUALITY DISTRIBUTION

>>121611355

>playing Sith
>wondering why everything is immature faux-sinister bullshit
>playing Sith

You see there's your problem right there.

>>121612088
why

why for the love of GOD

what part of KOTOR(2) won't they rape

>>121611867
Sorry, maybe I was unclear. Trying to refer to Bioware before EA fucked their corpse (ME, DA:O) where they were still kind of sticking with the things that made the original fans love the game.

Then DA2 went full retard and wanted CoD's audience. I'm not as worried about ME3, though, even with the whole "good place to start the series"

>>121611857

Sure thing Biodrone. I'm clearly wrong and you're obviously right. Keep shoveling that delicious hamburger helper shit down your doughnut drain and giving EA your money. You deserve to be ripped off.

>>121612216
IS DAT SUM MEGAS XLR

>>121612088

>>121612055
Hey I'm not high

Anyone save the Ramen Planet shop from last night?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QGDn6SpdfU&feature=channel_video_title

>>121612216
Shit sucks man.
>>121610318

>2hr wait for every server
>No server forums

What do you expect from the guys that manage to sell out of digital copies?

>>121612055

NO
you must continue posting, it is hilarous....

please?

>>121612343
>EDI and Joker.jpg

sorry

Such unique diversity, it is completely different from all other mmo's, especially that one big elephant in the room we dont talk about.

>>121609091
I had skipped through this vid a few times, but good god, go to the 1:50 mark, the damn thing has an attack animation where it bites the air twenty feet above the tank, it's worse than 29:30, and funnier too.

>>121612297
Explain if you would. Not seeing any rape here.

>>121611790
Well this one is also bad and is a MMO, so more hate is expected

>>121605529
>paying for a bioshit title

Fucking dumb fuck.

>>121612297
>yfw there's a server named Wound in the Force

>>121612461
amazing

or perhaps they just "sold out" on steam and they still sell "invisible" game keys on origin

>>121612343
>>121612343

i laughed so hard that my cat jumped off my lap.

>>121612461
do they have peter molyneux onboard? because they seem to be able to do ANYTHING

>>121612088
>>121612575
I agree, TOR may be a heaving pile of shit but these particular aspects don't seem that bad.

>>121612575
Rakghouls aren't force sensitive.

>>121612570
OCDONOTSTEAL.jpg

The one thing I don't understand is how this game is off to such a rocky start. It's not like they announced it yesterday, why are they so unprepared ? Year after year of development and hype-ups and they completely lose their shit when the game actually launches?

I just don't understand.

>>121612253
I want to play sith like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCaf3n3n86U

I want to flip out and shoot lightning out of my god damn fingertips

Bioware had shit community managers back when they made single player games.

Now it's worse!

I predict that a Bioware community manager will actually threaten physical violence against a forum member in less than four months.

>paying fifteen dollars a month for a Bioware game

>>121612343

So SWToR has already chalked off
>Queues on all servers
>Shipped copies without game codes

And people still think this game is going to last? Without even looking deep into it I can see the game's off to a crappy launch.

Er well, I know that the realm forums for WoW don't have mod activity a lot, but this is a really shitty way to just handle this. Also is anyone else kind of disappointed at the fact that despite all this voice acting, your character doesn't even have an emoticon laugh if you type in /lol or something like that? It doesn't make a lot of sense with all this voice acting they take such pride in.

>>121612831
I agree, it is pretty obvious that bioware have outdone themselves on original creative content!

>>121612813
This is set 200 years later and they weren't exactly something that had been around for a long time in the original.
Its fair to assume they mutate pretty quickly and they could have become force sensitive.
Seriously this is the least stupid stuff i have heard about TOR ever.

>>121612428

>>121612343
>[flirt]yep
>not [flirt]second

im disappointed.

>Dark Heal

>>121612840


It is not a rocky start from their point of view.

Before even launching they were preparing to only have a small portion of people continue to play after a dew months.

They are trying to maximize profit since they know it will sell well at first.
If they were to buy servers for all the players (or half) initially, it would cut into their money.

>>121612088

>rakghouls are likely the result of Sith sorcery

Uh, yeah. That hasn't been a mystery for a few years, mate. KOTOR comics, Vector crossover project.

This is Celeste Morne, a Jedi special agent. See that gold thing on her neck? That's the Muur talisman, an artifact made by the ancient Sith Lord Karness Muur. Whoever has the talisman can make and control rakghouls at will.

The talisman was lost after Muur's death, in the undercity of Taris. It made rakghouls at random for over a millennium before being found by the Mandalorians during their invasion of Taris in the Mandalorians. Morne took it back and wound up with it clamped on her neck, possessing her, and then Zayne Carrick shut her in suspended animation for the next few thousand years on Jebble.

Rakghouls haven't been a mystery since 2008.

>>121608117

Wow SWTOR PvP looks like shit.

>>121613074
sure it wasn't enough that the force was bacteria, now its cancer to

whats next, it becomes an STD?

knowing bioware, it just might happen

>>121612909
I personally suspect that they've turned the queues on manually in order to make the game appear popular. I have a hard time believing that that many people could actually be playing this trainwreck.

>>121608531
>Remember when MMOs were good?
You obviously don't. XI was awful, and so was vanilla WoW.

UO, Everquest, DAoC, and SWG are the only good MMOs.

>>121609091
That's sad, especially considering most World Bosses from vanilla WoW required some form of movement.

>>121613169
Oh, then i guess it is all stupid.
To think i thought bioware had written some interesting lore.

we wanted KOTOR3
we got this pile of shit

thanks bioware! i hope you go bankrupt!

ITT - Bandwagons

>>121612461
>Digital Download
>Soul out

I have no face.

Anyone have that pic of the Sith armor progression? The designs never cease to make me laugh

>>121612813
They were created by the force in the first place. Is it really such a surprise that some of them can use it? It's a small mutant offshoot of the Rakghouls called Nekghouls. A sentient holocron has been trying to civilize them and teach them the force.

>>121613062
>>121612570
>ZZZ Online's face when

>>121613262
SO THATS WHY THE JEDI DON'T ALLOW LOVE IN THEIR ORDER.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.

>>121613288
and because of instancing everywhere you can't actually gage how many people are around

>>121613310
This man knows his quality.

>>121613310
You obviously don't. UO, Everquest, DAoC was awful and so was SWG.

XI and vanilla WoW are the only good MMOs.

>>121613354
ITP - Fanboyism over a game that's dead on arrival

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ALL OF MY BUYERS REMORSE! ALL OF IT!

>>121613310
>the older an MMO is, the better is it
Yeah, no.

>>121613354
Is this the new biodrone defense tactic?

It's not like we just recently started criticizing TOR.

>>121613080
Haha, oh my god, I thought that was Star Wars Galaxies at first.

This game is such a fucking joke.

>>121613593
>DUEL SPEC

>>121608117
What a clusterfuck

Why is that guy clicking everything?

>>121613288
Yes, anything to deny that a large number of players are playing this game. Typical /v/ logic mate =P

>>121608117
>Level 33
>Manually clicking each skill, clicking the wrong skill at times, clicking over and over again even after the skill is in cooldown and manually turning with the keyboard as well as constantly walking into enemy effects

Why. Just why.

>>121613310

>DAoC & Star Wars Galaxies
>Good

Get the fuck out. You have no right to be here.

>>121613074
I tough the force was something that you have to reach throught concentration and study, not something that a random feral creature can develop with mutations, oh wait this is from the new trilogy where the force isn't something spiritual but magical gnomes in your blood, silly me thinking that bioware will make a game about the "boring" movies

>>121608755
Wait... are engine trails back?

>>121613594
>implying that when you kill someone in wow:esque mmos you can watch their corpse and loot it if you want.

Or even DROP ITEMS IN THE FUCKING GAME WORLD, HELLO WORLD INTERACTION THIS IS 2011

Ultima online is more technologically advanced then a 2011 game.

>>121613780
Yeah, but they're nowhere near as good as the old ones.

>>121613420
You have to understand that to us this is like the murder of Warcraft's lore.

>>121613752
The light side requires concentration and meditation maybe. The dark side is another story.

>>121613752
No, its not like that at all.
You are born with force powers or without, that has always been the case.
The jedi recruit the people with force powers and teach them to be better at it, but they are perfectly capable of learning simple things on their own.
That's where many different groups of non-jedi/sith force people come from. They aren't as effective as jedi/sith but they do have powers.

No thanks I think I'll take a chance with Pandacraft, It's pretty much this game with better balance and more content.

>>121613821
That's because Richard was obsessed with his game and wanted it to be perfect.
Makes it a lot more sad when you think that EA fucked it up so bad he quit.

It's obvious that nobody here has actually been to a major MMO launch before. They always have queues. They always have lag. That's how MMOs work. Everyone is just in a nerd rage over nothing.

>>121614057
If I didn't give up on WoW a long time ago, I would be excited for Pandacraft. It looks fun.

Did they add in a dance studio yet?

>>121613964
>new developments in lore = ruining the lore
But WHY? Still haven't seen a legitimate WHY to how this ruins lore.

>>121613964
Revan pants maybe, force related beings being force related doesn't seem so much of a stretch.
At least not compared to "DWARVES HAVE EVIL COUSINS WITH BLACK SKIN AND RED HAIR NOW".

>>121614234
Soon

>Welcome to Coruscant, home to trillions

>>121614071
Feels good that he's trying to get the ultima rights back and make THE ULTIMATE RPG.

>>121608820
Rodians are humans with bug eyes, Ithorians are humans with shark heads, Wookies are humans with fur

See how easy that is? Fuck, you're stupid.

>>121614234
>Blizzard ever adding the dance studio
Surely you know better than that.

>>121613780
fuck yeah they are

>>121614332
Is this true? The Ultima games are ridiculously awesome. Richard Garriott knows how to make a fucking game. With today's tech, Bethesda wouldn't stand a chance. Even outside the realm of vidya, he's a pretty cool guy.

>>121613780
also new nebulae graphics

>>121614401
But none of those races are anything like what you described.

>>121614229
>1.75 million

Is he fucking serious? That’s only 85,500

>>121614331
Fuckton of people inside and in the commercial district underneath. Messengers and shit walk in and out of the senate tower occasionally too. What, you want a bunch of people standing around outside the door? Also how about those fucking skyscrapers you see everywhere?

>>121613821
People don't want that anymore, though. MMOs need subscribers to stay profitable, so they have to appeal to the mainstream at least a bit. The mainstream right now wants casual, easy games. They want to progress while playing an hour or two a day, and they don't want some "no-lifer" to be able to kill them and take all their stuff.

>>121614401
There's a huge difference between a humanoid with a shark head and a human with a different skin tone.

>>121614331
that city looks huge i bet you can explore a huge area!

>corridors everywhere

>>121614401
Wow, you're pretty stupid.

>>121608755
Oh, wow.

Enjoy /v/

>>121614225

>Everyone is just in a nerd rage over nothing.

It's because it's Star Wars. Star Wars always has had and always will have one of the whiniest, bitchiest, shittiest fanbases ever, and every single new thing will always be met with howls of despair and rage and nostalgia for what came before (which was met with the same reaction when it came out).

TOR's not bad. It's not the best game I've ever played, but a pretty good MMO. Queues are a bitch, but huge queues don't last.

>>121614540
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-12-garriotts-ultimate-rpg-could-become-ultima-online-2

>>121614540
No doubt, Lord British is the Gabe Newell of RPGs

OH MAN IMAGINE A NEW AGE ULTIMA GAME MADE BY HAND WITH THE ORIGINAL ULTIMA TEAM AND RICHARD LEADING IT.

IT WOULD DESTROY ANY OTHER GAME ON THE MARKET.

I'd even put money up to say it could compete with Half Life 3 on release day.

>>121614318
dark-irons were just another clan of dwarves. Not cousins just different culture

and the iron dwarves were an interesting origin story imho

>>121614229
B-but 19 multiplied by 4500 doesn't make 1.75 million...

>>121614401
Being humanoid is one thing, being a reskinned model of a human is much less.

Learn what the words humanoid and palette-swap mean, please.
Fuck, you're stupid.

>>121614401

Maybe so but it’s not like that, they’re all nothing but pallet swaps. It’s like a convention for “original” sonics.

>>121614229
wtf? I don't have a calculator but his number can't be right. The number has to be less than 100,000...

>>121614830
Iron Dwarves are something i actually dislike and find retarded, like the earthen.
In truth though i always cite them as retarded, Dark Iron Dwarves are one of my favorite additions to the warcraft universe and one of the few things blizzard did right.

>dark heal

>>121614401
>Rodians are humans with bug eyes, Ithorians are humans with shark heads, Wookies are humans with fur
No they aren't, they have a completly different body contexture and facial features. Back to your bioware forum where you can defend the game with retarded arguments like that one.

>>121614964
~85,000

>>121614964
>It has to be! It just has to!

>>121614229
get the le fuck out