>no Persona 2

Kill yourself.

>play Persona 3 & 4
>move on to Nocturne

That delicious game play and them sexy demons cries.

Nocturne's battle system and party management are way better than Persona 3 or 4, I don't know how one could think otherwise.

>>119464519
Hello PHG.

>>119464677
Dat manly Lilim dying cry.

Nocturne has a better atmosphere and marginally better gameplay than the others. P4 has the best presentational style. DDS is SMT trying to be a normal RPG in the wrong era; they're good as far as RPGs go but the second one is a piece of shit storywise and easy as shit. In fact that's probably what makes Nocturne better: if you want it to be difficult, it is, whereas theothers are all extremely easy regardless of difficulty.

You're that same guy who was saying Persona 4 was the best JRPG ever because it was so polished right? I think I recall telling you why that's wrong.

DDS is more polished, deal with it. Nocturne is close to the same level of polish, but it suffered for being Atlus' first major PS2 game.

>liking Persona 3 & 4 more than Nocturne

Just kill yourself. Seriously. You're everything wrong with MegaTen and you're the reason shitty dating sim IT'S LIKE I'M REALLY IN A JAPANESE HIGH SCHOOL spin-offs are getting more attention than the actual main series.

I'd like Persona 3 and 4 more if the dungeons weren't boring featureless randomly generated shit.

>>119465160
>DDS is more polished
Elaborate.

>>119465177
He only liked 4 more than Nocturne. Calm down.
>You're the reason...
So a person who actually devotes time to playing more than 2 games of the series is a problem? I would think the opposite. It's not as though he said Nocturne was BAD.

Personally as shallow as it probably sounds I prefer the Persona games merely because of the characters and story they present. Even though people might find Nocturne and such better in game play, the Persona series just offers me a more engaging atmosphere that's far more pleasant to me.

>>119465414
>Randomly generated
But they aren't. They are pretty boring, however. Not as good as they could/should have been.

>>119465686
Persona 3 was randomly generated.

>>119465743
Whoops. Thought you just meant 4.

>>119465459
>Elaborate.

Not him, but:
>Don't have to permanently forget skills
>Much wider array of moves, offensive and defensive
>More involved gameplay
>Greater variety of enemies
>Settings are properly varied, and not just the same thing for ~8-11 floors

>>119464519
I'm getting to it.

It's still in its packaging, got the PSP version. If I like it, I'll import Eternal Punishment.

>>119464082

Yes, it's precisely because Persona is popular.

>>119465177

I don't give a shit about the highschool or waifu sim, I just like having actual characters with actual interaction and development. Mainline SMT is fine and all, but I'm allowed to have my preferences.

And on that note, Devil Survivor is the best in the series.

>>119464709
I, for one, lacked attachment to all the monsters I got. It feelt like I just got them to do my dirty business.
I guess you could argue that was the whole point, though.

But the way battles worked and how the press-turn/one more system worked was better in Persona, Persona 3's broken system aside.
Also, as entertaining as recruiting demons by talking to them is, it just drags on forever.

Persona 3 > Persona 4 > Persona 2 > Persona 1

Persona > Nocturne

Nocturne > DDS: Avatar Tuner

All of them are good though.

Deal with it, hipsters.

>>119466983
>But the way battles worked and how the press-turn/one more system worked was better in Persona,
Nope, not at all.

>>119466721
What was it that was so fun about those games again?

I thought they were slow and the presentation was weak (the sprites and squares are so small, seriously...good music though)

I got to the Yeti, beat it, and then I got bored. When was it going to get really interesting?

I'm asking this as a serious question, because I was thinking of getting it for the 3DS in the future if it ever releases in Europeland and the 3DS gets a redesign.

How come no one ever mentions Devil Summoner in these threads? Come on, guys. King Abaddon was actually really good, and if we're talking atmosphere, then that's one thing Raidou Kuzunoha definitely has plenty of.

>>119467184
Sorry, I didn't meant to write it off as a fact. It was just my opinion.

I don't like how the turn goes to the next demon in line instead of staying on the guy who dealt the critical or weakness.

>>119466983
How the hell can you think that when Persona's press turn system is basically a simplified version of Nocturne's?

>>119464709

This.

Like, Persona 4 was challenging but besides the boss fights the combat was pretty damned basic.

Nocturne feels sort of like a turn based Souls game for me; if I make the wrong decisions I expect to get raped. It's one of the few turn based JRPG's that feels like there's actual thinking involved in combat besides spamming weaknesses.

>>119467325
>I got to the Yeti, beat it, and then I got bored.

That's like stopping P3 after fighting The Priestess or Nocturne after Forneus.

>>119467711
Not even the bosses in P4 were challenging, the only difficult ones were Yukiko and Kanji's shadows, and the Pringles King

>>119466983
>I, for one, lacked attachment to all the monsters I got. It feelt like I just got them to do my dirty business.
I was rather attached to my demons, assuming you take your time in fusing them.

>But the way battles worked and how the press-turn/one more system worked was better in Persona
Pfffffahahahaha. It was a badly simplified version that removed most tactical thought.

>>119467502
Raidou 2 is my favorite SMT game.
At least it's not as neglected as the SNES games.

>>119467847

Nah, Kunino Sagiri was also a brilliant boss fight. I was actually thinking there

>The best:
nocturne
>All of these games are awesome but your favorite is going to change depending on what you personally like in a game tier:
persona 4/strange journey/king abandon
>Fun, but with issues tier
Persona 2/devil survivor/DDS, SMT 2/ SMT if
>Don't even bother, get the sequel tier
persona 1/SMT 1/souless army/persona 3
> who gives a fuck tier
megami tensei, majin tensei, smt nine, devil summoner games without raidou in them, jack bros
> wasted potential tier
imagine

>>119467822
That makes it even worse! I was interested in those games during both of those fights, does this mean Devil Survivor is nothing for me at all?

>>119468360
I didn't have any trouble with him, by that point my Personae were so overpowered I was almost able to solo him.

>>119468625
See: Tam Lin

>>119468583
>Don't even bother, get the sequel tier
>persona 3

They made Persona 4, didn't they? And that fell into a supposedly great tier of yours.

You never know, man.

Also, wasn't the Answer technically a sequel?

>DDS discussion

OH BOY
TIME TO SPEW

DDS Plot Analysis:

The story is ultimately regulated by Nocturne. The realm was merely an alternate reality through the Amala Network. The state the sun was in was a variation (with Brahman), which is essentially Kagutsuchi but different in form. The sun turning into what it was (Cuvier Syndrome) was a variation of what Kagutsuchi did for the invert world in Nocturne.

Instead of several humans competing for power and recreating the world in their own respective image (Reason), they were all unaware of the situation, and instead fought each other for mere survival. The Embryon stuck together and ultimately brought about Seraph (Sera + Serph, after being empowered by Shroedinger)

Shroedinger is the god who (directly or indirectly) was summoned to the earth and watched over Sera/Serph. This is the same as the gods summoned by the humans in Nocturne (Hikawa/Chiaki/Isamu) through a high concentration of power (The emotional wrath brought about by Sera witnessing Serph's true nature).

Seraph DOES NOT compare to the Hito-Shura at all in terms of power. The fanboys/community wanted to perceive Seraph as a Demi-God or another being of a penultimate tier of power, rivaling/surpassing the Hito-Shura.

Seraph was only a human. The human empowered by a god (Shroedinger) to achieve a reason to bring about the verdict regarding the earth (recreate in whomever's image).

To compare, the Hito-Shura killed several god-empowered humans like Seraph, on top of killing Kagutsuchi and (TDE) besting Lucifer in a duel and leading his army onto Heaven to kill YHVH.

Much evidence was brought out like this through subtle notations, such as the Amala Terminals covering Brahman's body and the situation of the earth as it was being so similar in cause/effect, compared to Nocturne.

>>I, for one, lacked attachment to all the monsters I got. It feelt like I just got them to do my dirty business.

all of the demons in nocturne have unique animations/sound ques, and lots of them have unique/rare skills and unique tricks to them.

>>119468765
>Also, wasn't the Answer technically a sequel?
It was an epilogue.

>>119468583
>who gives a fuck tier
>devil summoner games without raidou in them

Fuck you.

>>119466983
>I, for one, lacked attachment to all the monsters I got. It feelt like I just got them to do my dirty business.

I felt more attachment to my pixie in Nocturne than any party member in Persona 3 & 4.

>>119468789
I don't see them eating boxed lunches on top of my school building with me.

Just kidding, I'm not that much of an ass.

>>119468625

Ah. Well, I didn't really grind too much and I was surprised by his form changes and the hypnosis thing. Was pretty fun to figure out.

>>119468980
Was that why you sacrificed her flesh and bones to fuse a new demon?

>>119464744
PHG would have an image with a zany name, or would call him autistic