>>118348716
The only thing you can improve upon is your academic situation, bro. Jobs are next to nonexistent at the moment. I, myself, have been applying for jobs since Late September. I've gotten a total of two interviews.

>>118349033
Every time I think about doing schoolwork I just go "Oh, it's not due until x, I have plenty of time!' and then fuck off and go play vidya or lurk /v/ for hours. In fact I have a research paper due tonight that I've been supposed to be working on all month and I haven't even started yet (it only has to be 3 pages though). And every morning I wake up like "Ok, today you're going to get your shit together and take control of your life" and before I know it I'm playing the vidya again.

I don't even play MMOs or anything, yesterday I started another playthrough of ALttP for no reason at all. I seriously think I'm an addict.

I've looked for jobs in the past and couldn't find anything but I shouldn't have just completely given up like I have now.

You have a horrible work ethic. I don't allow myself vidya gaems or fapping until I finish the work I have scheduled for the day.

15 page paper due in 2 weeks? 3 pages a day, not counting weekends, then 3 pages of rewriting a day. Vidya motivates me to get the work done and to do it well or else rewriting will take even longer.

>>118349813
I've tried to do that before but I always end up thinking "This is fucking stupid, what does it matter as long as I get it done?" and procrastinate.

How do I fix my shitty work ethic?

Also, consider starting your own business to provide a service or product. You don't necessarily need to be hired by someone else. I grow and sell cacti.

>>118349813
Yea that's what I did when I went to school. All the projects Id had I would partition them into small assignments. So that by the time everything was due I'd already be done with them all and all of my friends would be stressing lol.

video games aren't the problem here, it's your tendency towards them that's the core issue. You should ask yourself why do those things. Tired all the time? Hate what you do? Blah blah blah? When you've pinned something down see what you can do against it.

>>118349436
...ok yeah never mind that's a problem. Not sure why you think you can just "get your shit together" on whim, change takes time. Fastest way is to force it on yourself by changing your environment. Get rid of all vidya and look into ways to block 4chan/lock out programs aside from word processors etc. Worst that could happen is that you get bored.

OP's post reminds me of myself

I skipped classes last week to play Skyrim. I felt like a lazy peice of shit. I like to consider myself a hard worker but deep down I know i'm a worthless selfish cunt who can't get off his skinny ass to do anything except play vidya.

Well I procrastinate but in the end I always get it done, even if I have to pull a all nighter. That's pretty much all that matters to me, getting it done.

>>118350200
You need to care. You need to care that the work gets done, care to further yourself as a person, and care to accomplish something.

Man up and do what you need to do.

I kinda had the same problem OP. But one day I just manned up and applied for an IT apprenticeship. I got invited to a group interview and got selected out of everyone. there were only 5 people but still, fuck yeah go me. I just have to wait for them to find me an employer before I can begin.

>not joining the US Military because you don't have shit else to do
>not learning valuable skills to help you in life
>not using "military status" to milk respect out of people
>not bragging about it on 4chan

>>118350583
I did the same. Then I remembered how much fun I had with Skyrim and how bored and shitty all my classes have been. The bad feelings passed instantly.

>>118350460
Well I do feel like I'm going backwards instead of making progress with school. For some reason my AP credits form high school didn't transfer so I'm stuck in courses that I've already done before, literally, in high school (or even middle school). I just have trouble getting myself motivated and convincing myself it's relevant to my future.

I just rearranged my room yesterday but I ended up making it even more optimal for gaming, since that's what I think about 24/7. Got a Wii and a PS3 hooked up and tons of emulators, roms, rom hacks, and indie games on my laptop. My wallpaper is Skyrim themed. I've got Zelda posters in my room. I don't think I could escape the vidya completely unless I just threw it all away or sold it.

My general though process regarding school goes something like this:

>project gets assigned
>"Oh wow that sounds easy as fuck, no big deal"
>every day until deadline say "I guess I'll start today"
>every time I try and start I go "What am I doing, I have plenty of time, this is easy as fuck!"
>repeat about 20 times until the night before
>start on project at like 9:00PM when it's due at midnight

I end up getting As anyway but it stresses me the fuck out, and I have missed plenty of assignments due to this.

Any idea what the actual source of that attitude could be?

>>118349436
I know that feeling, bro. I failed the same class five times in university because I couldn't force myself to get the work done. I'm about to fail a similar class because (again) I can't focus and get the work done. Ten page paper due on Tuesday and I still can't figure out a topic for it. I'm currently failing at community college and I'm 22 and I've never had a job.

I guess part of the problem is video games, but I don't even play them that often 'cause I don't want to play them until I do my work. So 4chan is the problem, right? Nope, I'll get myself off 4chan, tell myself to focus on work, and then... do nothing. I'll take a nap, I'll stare at the ceiling, I'll play with my family's dogs -- I'll do anything but work.

I think I need to accept the fact that I'm a worthless member of society and that I am nothing but a leech. I would kill myself, but death could suck a lot, so fuck it.

>Work
>Not enough time to enjoy vidya
>Time off
>Grow restless

Enjoy being a student while you still can.

I am kind of like OP but I feel if I didn't have any distractions I still would not be able to get work done

I just literally cannot focus

I will sit there and stare at it, I will know what I have to do, how to do it and why, but my mind just does not cooperate with me

>>118351445
Leech life is not as bad as you think. Work sucks, everyone knows it. Some people muster through the work for the money it can provide, and others decide the whole thing isn't worth it. Both are logical choices to make, society just tells you leeching is wrong because you aren't being a happy worker drone contributing to the economy.

>>118351571
I know that feel too bro.

When I was living at school I didn't have any distraction at all, I would just sit in my dorm room and stare at the walls all night, knowing full well I had assignments due at the end of the week.

I think it has something to do with knowing how to do it already, so you feel like you aren't making progress and actually doing it is a trivial act because you know everything about it in your head already, and "could do it if you really wanted to".

It's a shitty attitude and I need to get rid of it.

>>118351396
Sounds like boredom and laziness to me. You sound like you want a challenge and to learn things that these courses aren't providing.

OP sounds like me. Except I had a job for a bit but my boss was an old hard as hell to work with cunt who did nothing but assume shit about me and blame his own short fallings on me, so I quit.

I'm also still a technical virgin. I've 69'd a girl but for some reason, I bitched out on sticking my dick in her. Also didn't have a condom but that was just a lame excuse. And I haven't had any sort of sexual contact since

>>118351900
holyshityouareamassivebitch

Not your blog.

>>118351782
But I feel bad because I don't want to leech off my parents. I want a job. I want to do my homework. I just... don't. If someone said, "Here's a job," I'd probably take it.

This also may sound weird, but does anybody feel like they need to talk to themselves a lot to get things done? I need to outpace my mind, really. My mind will keep telling me that I'm not good enough, that I'm not worthless, etc., but if I can listen to (I guess) my heart before my mind, I can get shit done.

Too bad talking to myself sometimes means a lot of yelling and swearing and I live at my parents' house and share a room with my brother, meaning if I talked to myself, everybody would think I was insane.

I just want an apartment where I can talk myself through work all day with nobody to bother me.

>>118351061
>learning valuable skills to help you in life
>learning to kill people

nice try

Maybe you are high functioning autistic and have other mental/physical disorders. I forget the disorder where you are permanently dispondent.

Maybe you can live a tug-boat life on benefits. So you'd better get your ass in gear and find out what disorders you have. Implying you dont have any.

>>118351782
I've often dreamed of going off and finding a community of like-minded people who don't give a shit about competition or money and just want to learn what they want to learn at their own pace. I think it would be so peaceful, and my motivation would be "this is my passion, so I'm sticking with it".

I hate having to compete with other people for a job, or other students for good grades. Everything is a competition and it just seems so destructive to me.

But there comes a point where I have to stop dreaming and suck it up and just get the shit done, and I'm having real problems forcing myself to make that happen.

Oh nice we just had a thread about this 404 minutes ago.

But yeah, no magic bullet here. You just get to work. Easier said than done.

I'm with you OP. I should be writing my final diploma work but instead I'm playing Warcraft and hanging around in /v/. My laziness combined with a computer is ruining my life.

>>118352014

Yeah I know. I hate myself for it sometimes. I just feel bipolar when it comes to sex sometimes. And girls in generals.

ie: I fap and it feels amazing and playing with that girl was too. But after I "release" I feel terrible, kinda guilty like I'm some sort of horrible person. I have NO idea why. I hate it so much

And I feel so shy and timid with girls sometimes. I feel like when I'm confident and such I'm just being fake.

I found doing work outside the dorm/apartment made it easier to get things done. Take what you need to the library and work there. Also, studying with another person helps since there is someone to hold you accountable and can help you work out stuff you're having trouble with. Wish I had figured this stuff out before senior year after all the damage had been done...

>>118351571
That's abnormal, go to a doctor, emphasize that focusing/higher level mental tasks are impossible.

I had the same deal (among other things) and it turned out I had chronic lyme disease.

>>118351803

I know what attitude
it's destroying my life
I've sat on my ass so long that I feel unable to "want to do it". I promised it to myself twice, yet here I am not doing anything.

>>118352681
Speaking of other people, why the fuck do professors seem hellbent on shoving group projects down students throats. I hate working with other people, and my grade will almost certainly suffer because of these projects.

>>118351870
That's probably more true than you think. I've always been praised by my teachers for being a talented writer and they always would read my papers to the class, from kindergarten when they had to sit me off by myself so kids wouldn't cheat off me in spelling tests all the way up to last year in college when my professor flat-out told me I was a couple levels above the course. And it pissed me off in high school seeing people who were dumb as shit when you engaged them in conversation making high grades just because they did exactly what was asked of them. So instead of devoting my time to just doing whatever they assigned without actually thinking or learning anything, I guess I "rebelled" in my own little way and stopped doing the work.

Several teachers and counselors pulled me aside and asked what the problem was and I just pretended there wasn't any. I was just so sick of these ditzy cheerleaders and ignorant preps making straight As because they put the right word or number in the right blank.

That was all well and good for teenage angst, but now I'm in college and I need to start doing my shit or I'm going to end up 30 years old living with my mom and lurking /v/.

So I guess my question is, how do I make it all seem relevant?

Sorry if this is starting to read like a blog, but I really want some input on this

Same situation since Skyrim came out. I have a job though where I make pretty decent money.

Basically what I'm saying is, "fuuuuuuuck you OP".

>>118351061
>he thinks the military teaches you anything
nigger if ur in any service besides the air force, you are:

a.) never doing ur job
b.) never required to do anything meaningful or hard by urself

everything is a group effort and you cant really be fired, you have to be shit terrible awful at everything in ur life to not get promoted. military carries shit terrible people through their life, meanwhile the tax payer supports their ugly fucking fat wife who sits on base housing and eating px fast food every day

>>118352888
Oh man, I know that feeling. That being said, I feel as if my intelligence maybe didn't carry over to college. What that means is that I'd sometimes rather not try than try and end up with even a C. There was an essay due a few weeks back that was only graded based on # of pages, yet I didn't do it because I didn't think I'd be able to write anything decent.

I'm starting to think that drugs are needed.

>>118353148
Your post is actually encouraging me to give military life a try. Being a useless lazy shitstain is pretty much my goal in life.

>>118353240
I get that way too, though for me it's when I forget to do an assignment. Instead of going up to the teacher and making up some lie about my printer not working or my internet being down like I would have done if I were younger, I just sit there and feel guilty about it and decide it'd be better if I don't waste their time.

As for not doing papers because you don't think they're good, even though you meet all the requirements, I know that feel like crazy. I've done that several times this year on geology homework of all things because you have to answer the questions at the end of the chapter, and if my answers aren't thought out well enough for my tastes I just don't turn it in. Which I realize is stupid because he just grades on if you do it or not (seemingly), but I feel like if I'm going to do an assignment I need to do it to my fullest or not do it at all instead of wasting my time and the teacher's.

Why can't there be a place for people like us? ;_;

>>118353295
the military is for you then!

ps go air force, all the hot bitches go there, obviously.

>>118352888
If you're in college, you should have assignments that are not just busywork or filling in blanks. Don't you have written assignments where you actually have to write ideas and explain things? Once you get past those bullshit GEs, you should be having classes where you can't just fuck around ("doing exactly what you're told") and actually have to think for yourself.

>>118353780
>it'd be better if I don't waste their time.
God I hate this so much, yet I'm so guilty of it.
>in class
>need help on homework
>decide not to waste class's time and bug professor about problem that everybody else probably got
Even though last time I asked about a problem, the professor tried to go over it with the class and it seemed like I was the only one getting it.

There isn't a place for people like us because of time. Humans really hammered down the concept of time and if we try to break away from it, we're abnormal. I'd love a class where the professor does nothing. He gives you the book and if you need help, just ask. You can take exams any time and the only due date for everything is the end of the year.

That'd be so great.

>>118353240
>>118353780
I used to actually try and get As in my GE classes. Then I realized that I had been pouring too much effort into classes that didn't really matter that much. You just need to pass those classes as a formality, not be a super star in them.

Now I'm realizing, "Fuck that shit, I'm gonna concentrate on classes in my major that will help me land the job that I want."

>>118353958
That's my problem, I lost financial aid for my university last year and can't afford to go because of their stupid withdrawal policy meaning every course I withdrew from counted as a failing grade, so now I'm stuck in community college doing general ed in courses that literally feel easier than high school. No matter how hard I try I can't seem to tell myself this is relevant and believe it. Every day I go to class I get pissed off because I already know all that shit, I'm always in a shitty mood when I come home and end up taking it out on my family in some instances, and I'm tired of sitting in a class that's so obviously dumbed down.

For instance, in my history class, every single example our teacher uses is from a hollywood movie. She shows us clips from big budget films and basically says "That's how it was!". She also makes incredibly broad generalizations or flat-out makes up lies to entertain the dumbass students, because apparently it needs to be coated in a hollywood shell to keep their attention.

I just really feel stuck and like I don't belong there at all, and I guess that's why I escape into video games.

So maybe the problem isn't vidya after all, it's me being in the wrong place.

>>118354277
I don't think that would help much. Probably just put it off as long as you can. Short term due dates are more effective then long term ones.

>>118351396
>ap credit stuff
Well that's bullshit. I don't think there's any way to avoid hating those classes. Search for a way to get into more challenging/relevant courses, and I guess in the interim just hang tight. Drudgery is unavoidable in life really. On the plus side here you apparently have extra time on your hands so you can seek out ways to make things not as shit.

>vidya escape
You couldn't dump all that stuff at your parents or something? Put the comp stuff on an external HD and store it somewhere. I mean if this stuff is really bothering you it'd be worth it to at least try something different and see how it goes. Doing so would also remove variables and potentially help you find the core issue.

>greentext
Your self-control kinda sucks. No biggie really, obviously many people have the same deal. As said before change your environment or do something else clever I don't know. To be cliche: "work smarter not harder". I don't think it's realistic to just brainlessly brute-force a behavior. Also doing that uses up a ton of energy, which'll wear you down and oops vidya time

>>118354277
E-mail the professor or as him after class. Fuck everyone's time, they're either as clueless as you and are afraid of asking questions, or they didn't get the material but don't care about asking. You might find yourself doing the class a favor by asking the question everyone wanted to ask.

>>118354559
I think the problem is that I don't have much motivation to learn older stuff as the time has already passed for it, you know? I'll miss the due date or fuck up on a test and the professor is like, "If you missed something, make sure you study and understand what you missed." Why? There's the final at the end, but other than that, what's the point of learning something that is practically irrelevant in the class now?

And I fucking hate that so very much. School isn't about how much you know, it's about how much you know at certain times. That's why I hate school.

That and because I can't focus, but that's more why I hate myself

>>118348716
>Blaming videogames for being a useless piece of shit.
You dissapointed me, aniki.

same deal with me here.

Although i also have a life crippling illness that keeps me from getting a job / having social life.

>>118354277
Fucking brofist man! In my ideal world, there would be no tests because there would be no need to prove yourself to be "better" than other students. Learning would emphasize teamwork and the group over competition and the individual. Instead of school being centered around trying to be smarter than everyone, it's be centered around making sure everyone comprehended the material.

Instead of worksheets, you'd talk it out in discussions and debates with your professors and classmates. You'd be graded on participation and how well you demonstrate that you understand the material through writing, verbal debate, or projects where you apply what you learned to create something.

And instead of grading everyone individually, you'd grade the group as a whole. This would encourage students to prevent other students from slacking since it'd be pooled into one grade, and instead of teachers harping on lazy kids to get their shit together, it'd be both their teachers AND their peers.

... but this doesn't exist and I hate everything. :(

>>118354555
Just do what you can to pass the classes so you can get a piece of paper saying that you're "smart" or something. Sometimes life just has bullshit formalities that you need to do so you can put it on your resume.

Maybe you can get into a grad school that you like afterwards or something. Look for scholarships. I've gotten some and I think it was because nobody bothered to try applying.

---> In the meantime, go get books and learn on your own. Don't wait to learn about stuff that you want to learn about. <---

>>118348716
Make a plan for EVERY SINGLE DAY. Write it in a calender your smartphone or a piece of toiletpaper. It doesn't matter.

An example of my plan for tomorrow.

6:00 Standing up/Showering
6:30 Making Breakfast
7:00 Take the bus to school
7:50 School
15:35 Take the bus home
17:20 Eat something
17:40 DO YOUR HOMEWORK/LEARN 10 WORDS OF FRANCE VOCABULARY

VIDYA VIDYA VIDYA FAPPIN VIDYA FAPPIN VIDYA

20:00 make and eat dinner

VIDYA MORE VIDYA MORE FAPPIN

23:00 Get ready for bed and turn of the comp
23:30 Sleep

I draw little boxes to check behind every point. It's statisfying as fuck to check one after one.

Protip: The more points you add the easier it gets.

>>118354847
Yea, I know what you mean. Why learn it if it becomes irrelevant. It makes learning the old stuff seem pointless.

>>118355255
what's the illness?

> Retards and Losers general

>/v/

protip: School teaches you a lot of stuff that you're not really expected to remember afterwards. JUST FIND OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN LIFE, THEN FOCUS ON LEARNING THINGS ABOUT THAT. Everything else is just superfluous stuff they pile into college curicculums that may or may not be useful.

Didn't read the entire thread, but think of it this way.

At least you are actually doing something with your time. Do you realize there are people (normalfags) who literally do nothing? They sit on facebook and complain about being bored, browse peoples photos for hours, watch TV for hours and hours, meet up with their friends and do absolutely nothing at all, etc.

So, even though they tell you you are wasting your time or you should do something productive, remember that you are the one enjoying your time on Earth and filling your hours with things you enjoy.

>>118355760
I already do that though. I'm passionate about music, so I recorded my own piano albums. I'm passionate about vidya, so I'm constantly learning about the industry and teaching myself how to program. But none of that matters for shit if I'm making awful grades and have no income.

>>118355858
I agree. Time is only wasted if you think it is because you give it its meaning and purpose.

>>118355858
Actually, I'm posting on 4chan all day. I don't really enjoy it but I do it. I ought to play more video games. I mean, I'm already not doing schoolwork, I guess it's best I fill that time with something I enjoy.

>>118355488
Do this.

If you aren't even willing to try this you simply dont want to change

>Have 5 essay assessment I need to get done this term
>Deadlines are all early - mid December
>Haven't done anything

They aren't even long assignments 3 pages max but I just can't summon up the strength to do anything. Every night I go to sleep and say tomorrow I will get on top of things but I never do.

You faggots need to actually do something about your shitty pathetic lives. Stop blaming everyone else or society, it's your own fault you lazy fucks.

Go join the fucking army/airforce/navy/policeforce. Anything that can at least better yourself. Go get a fucking gym membership at least.

>>118355987
Right, but when what you consider a valuable use of your time clashes with what society considers a valuable use of your time, you run into problems like I'm having now. You don't get paid for sitting on your ass and filling your time with the things you enjoy, and you NEED money just like you need food and water in this society (in fact, you need it even MORE since you have to use money to buy that shit). The more I've thought about it, the more I realize "money is the root of all evil" is completely true, because it allows people to become enslaved and forced into working for the rest of their lives just to get by.

But what the fuck are we supposed to do about it? There is no choice of saying "disregard what everyone else thinks, do what you want and be happy", because at the end of the day you still need a job and a place to live and food to eat.

>>118356244
>stop blaming everyone else or society
Why does everybody think we do this? I may say that I have problems with the way society is or other people are, but since I can't change those, I KNOW the problem is with myself. I can either change to fit society or I can learn to live with myself (or I could continue being a whiny loser like I am now).

Gym memberships cost WAY too much money, and I ain't got that money. Plus last time I tried working out, it just made me depressed.

I don't wanna join the army or police or any other profession where death is a risk.

>>118356569

Do what i did then. I didn't have confidence to join a Gym membership considering it's just a big fucking playground and you're the new kid again.

Start doing superset exercises in between vidya sessions. Shit like, 20 pushups + 20 situps between an hour of gaming.
I used to tally my Kills and Deaths in BC2 matches, then that would be how much of each set i'd do at the end of the round.

You'll feel better, more healthier, eat better, look better. It goes without saying chicks dig healthier guys. You'll become more confident aswell, which helps when you find a job.

>>118356903
If I didn't share a room with my brother, I'd probably do pushups and little exercises now and again. With him here, though, I just don't feel like doing much. Iunno, I feel like every one of my actions are judged and I just can't stand it.

I just want to be all alone, yet that is too much to ask since I don't have a job.

>>118357108

Challenge him then, next time he looks at you like that, just say some shit like "Pushup challenge, me and you cunt lets go."

>>118357355
He'd kick my ass. I'm 22 and he's 17, but he takes a weight training class at school and he's taller than me.

>>118357460

It wouldn't matter though bro. He's your brother... At least he got involved with you. There's allways sibbling rivalry but you can use that as motivation to beat him eventually.

>>118356244
>gym membership

Yeah, I did. Nothing feels different. Well, there's the runner's high you get after the exhaustion. Still prefer to be alone most of the time.

>>118357718
I love the runners high.

>Go to uni four days a week
>Work part time ten hours a week
>Balance my social life with friends, family and my girlfriend
>Still have time to put six or seven hours of vidya with my bros in during the week

It's all about prioritising. You don't necessarily need to write up a logbook or dairy, just think to yourself what is more important and what is due sooner, then do twenty or thirty minutes of work on it each day until its finished.

Trust me, man, if you just dedicate half an hour to an assignment every day, you'll breeze through it, and get an incredibly higher mark than if you crammed in ten hours of hardcore study the night before its due. And you won't even notice the time gone by, and the promise that you can then relax once the thirty minutes is up is enough to keep you focused.

>>118358053

Pretty weird how it feels so similar to a cannabis high.

See, this is one upside to being a tired gamer. You get to be on /v/ all the time AND you get shit done. So great.