>>116593982

The eighth Chaos Emerald.
Black Arms.
Froggy.
Lumina, Void, Illumina.
Gamma.

I liked Emerl

Mecha Sonic? Hello?

I don't remember seeing any Super Emmerords, op.
Hell we didn't even see the Master Emerald.

>Emerl stars in three Sonic games
>He gets no mention whatsoever, not even a billboard with his name on it or a missing/wanted poster

I guess they really want to pretend Sonic Chronicles never happened, including the 9001 Emerls that showed up in that game.

Oh cool.

So Bean the dynamite is in it?

Vanilla The Rabbit doesn't even get mentioned in the game at all, outside of Cream;s description mentioning she has a mother.

I think it's time we re-evaluate Sonic Chronicles.

Unfairly maligned DS-RPG or unfairly maligned DS-RPG?

>>116594417

In City Escape, Bean and Bark appear on one wanted poster, Fang the Sniper "aka Nack the Wolfweasel" appears on his own wanted poster, and then Ray and Mighty appear on one missing poster.

Which is more than Emerl ever got, which is nothing.

>>116594552
>Unfairly maligned
>Implying people don't criticize it enough

There is absolutely no excuse for that game being as fucking awful as it is.

>>116594552
Its a Bioware game

>>116594754

Made during the good years.

>>116594552
It's shit.

Video related.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTK6f-S_cTA

>Your face when Gemerl, the reconstructed form of Emerl that Robotnik revived in Sonic Advance 3, was deactivated and stuffed in a closet in Vanilla's house after Cream got bored of playing with tea party with him.

>>116594552
>>116594405
Fuck, Sonic Battle was so good.

>>116594843
>Implying a company is immune to making a bad game during its good years

This retarded logic is what got so many people hyped for the game to begin with. "IT'S BEING MADE BY BIOWARE IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT BY DEFAULT HURRR HURR DURRR HERP HURRRR"

>>116594865
I like it.

>>116594865
WOW, they pushed the limits of the Game Boy's sound processing!


oh wait, this wasn't for the original game boy?

>>116594992

And there's people who enjoy eating other peoples' literal shit. A handful of random faggots liking an awful game doesn't redeem it from being a fucking awful game.

>>116594552

It was terrible, and this is coming from someone who managed to find Sonic 06 enjoyable.

>>116594865

Why am I not surprised you highlighted the worst part about the game.

Oh Bioware...

>Sonic Chronicles
>The Sonic franchise has hundreds of iconic sound effects and jingles
>Bioware goes on Google and uses Flintstones stock sound effects for everything in the game

>no emerl
>dangit_bobbeh.mp3

Well shit, do they at least have Chaos, Metal Sonic, Team Chaotix, the Egg Carrier, Chao Gardens and some of the other great shit from Sonic?

>>116595101
Opinions.

>>116595291
Perfect Chaos, Metal Sonic, Chaotix are in the game

>>116595211
It's only the worst part of the game, but most everything else about it was bad too. The recycled artwork, the awful story, the repetitive turn-based battles (MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS). My impression is that only Bioware fanboys really defend the game. Or the most adamant Sonic fans.

>>116594552

>Bioware

>People actually defending Sonic Chronicles

Every time I think the Sonic fanbase can't get any more retarded....

>>116595288

>mfw I'm imagining Sonic shouting yabadabadoo

>>116595211

There can't be a worst part of the game if every aspect of the game is equally terrible.

>Music
>Sound
>Art direction
>Graphics
>Aesthetics
>Dialogue
>Story Holy fuck, I can't believe they were not only retarded enough to try to shoehorn the DiC cartoons, Sonic X, and Archie Comics into Sega Sonic canon, but also took a huge fucking shit over everything that's in the fucking Sega Sonic canon to begin with...such as KNUCKLES BEING THE LAST ECHIDNA.
>Controls
>Gameplay
>Battle mechanics
>Pacing

All shit, and the worst I've ever seen on the Nintendo DS. And I've played literally over a hundred games for the system, at least a third of which were RPGs. There is not a SINGLE good thing about the game.

>>116595630
hey at least they didn't put in any fan characters

>my face when Sega and Sonic Team just pretend Shade doesn't exist and Chronicles never happened
>my face when Bioware keeps asking when they'll get the okay to continue working on the sequel and Sega keeps ignoring them

>>116595429
Oh thank goodness, I was about to flip my shit.

We don't really need the egg carrier, but some decent boss mechas and a new eggman battleship would be sweet.

I just hope charmy doesn't sound like such a fucking faggot this time. The only 2 things I like about him is that he's a bee, which is original, and the fact that he looks like he's checking his doubles whenever you clear a stage in sanic heroes.

>>116595630

Wait, they tried to make the DiC cartoons canon? Please explain more

>>116595772
>hey at least they didn't put in any fan characters
>90% of the characters in the game are fan characters

>>116595837
>mfw Sega and Sonic Team SAID to forget Sonic '06 ever happened.
>mfw Sega and Sonic Team puts Crisis City and Silver in Generations therefore cementing the game as canon.

>>116595995

Added Swatbots, "Robotiziation," some comment about Snively.

>>116596061
>implying crisis city and silver rival battle sucked

>>116596061
>>mfw Sega and Sonic Team SAID to forget Sonic '06 ever happened.

Oh ya? When, nigga? Cause last I heard Sonic Team was very proud about what they had planned for Sonic 2006, but were extremely disappointed that SegaSammy wouldn't give them the proper amount of time to complete it, so we got a shitty beta for a retail release.

>>116596061
Silver is a good character imo.
Hes one of Masahiro Sakurai's favorite characters too.
We all know this is cause hes basically furry Trunks though.
Also, Still no Mighty or Bean or Nack

>>116596061
>Crisis City
>Nobody's all like, "Whoa what the fuck is this place, I've never seen it before!"

>>116596373
Crisis City was awesome.
Rival Battle was fucking stupid.

http://www.gamerankings.com/ds/941521-sonic-chronicles-the-dark-brotherhood/index.html

>N-Revolution Magazine UK 9/10
>Gameplayer 9/10
>G4 - X-Play 4/5

How the fuck did it get scores like these? Paid reviews? Maybe that's where the majority of the game's budget went.

Just bought this game today for PS3, and I'm already upto Seaside hill. Short game, but it's got tons of mini games and unlockables. 9/10.

Also which mini game gives me Sonic Boom?

>>116596427
Sonic = Goku
Shadow = Vegeta
Knuckles = Piccolo
Silver = Trunks
Chaos = Cell
Robotnik = Gero
Tails = Gohan
Rouge = Bulma
Amy = Chichi
Seven Chaos Emeralds = Seven Dragon Balls
Super Sonic = Super Saiyan
etc

>>116596061
I could of swore it was sonic and the black knight, becuase I remember hearing about it being so terrible they tried to remove it from the shelves, or just stopped producing it. I could be fucking wrong though. And 06 wasn't that bad, the controls were pretty awful, but what do you expect from a fucking blue hedgehog that moves at the speed of sound. I mean, all they really did was make it less credible than it already was.

>>116596706
Tails is krillin, since he can't go super with only 7.

>>116596653
>How the fuck did it get scores like these?

"Professional" game reviews are nothing more than the opinions of 17-30 year old nobodies. They are not some valid, official rank for the quality of a game. Fuck, most kids write their reviews before even completing the game these days as it's more important to get a review out before other websites do than it is to write a good review. IGN.com has been using worse like "retarded" and "gay" to describe video games for the past four years now, if not longer. SO PROFESSIONAL.

No, seriously, if your only defense is the fucking review scores then you have no argument.

>>116596241
to be fair, i thought the swatbot designs were pretty cool, too bad they wanted to squish everything together in that game.

>>116596855
They removed all the games around the 06 era that had average Metacritic scores
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-07-average-sonic-games-removed-from-shops
I actually liked Unleashed, but I can see why they removed all the other ones.

>>116596855
>My face when Black Knight was a far more enjoyable game than Secret Rings, and at the time of Secret Rings' release everyone loved it.

Secret Rings is the worst Sonic game made this generation. That includes Sonic Chronicles and Sonic 2006. And yet everyone fucking loved it.
Then Black Knight, a game that radically improved Secret Rings' gameplay and made a mediocre but alright title, was more hated than Shadow The Hedgehog. What the fuck?

Crisis City in Generations made me go and try to play it again. Holy fuck that game is just SO BAD. You look at both games and wonder "HOW are these both made by the same company?" Tell me I'm not the only one who thought this?

>>116597295
Sonic '06, I mean.

>>116597257
>SEGA has removed Sonic games with average Metacritic scores from shop shelves to combat franchise fatigue. "Any Sonic game with an average Metacritic has been de-listed," SEGA's SVP of EMEA Jurgen Post told MCV. "We have to do this and increase the value of the brand. This will be very important when more big Sonic releases arrive in the future."

>SEGA's set to release three Sonic games in the coming months including downloadable title Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1

>>116597257
>>116597262
well, i never played black knight, and i owned unleased, but ended up selling it due to the amount of werehog stages, and all of them being close to nothing but beat em ups. I never beat that game too, which was a first for me in a sonic game.

>>116597295
i thought that from adventure 2 to heroes. dat shine on EVERYBODY!

>>116597484
You should have finished Unleashed, man. I quit it, then a year later I started over (lost my data) and just soldiered through the werehog stages. The game overall leaves a good taste in your mouth after completing it.

>>116597295

Simple; Sega doesn't consist of one fucking development team, you fucking retard. Sonic Team Japan alone consists of four development teams.

You have the UGA guys who make games like Feel The Magic/Rub Rabbits, Sonic Riders, and help other divisions of Sega (like Sumo) when it comes to using Sonic in other games (like Sega Superstars games).

You have the core Sonic Team Japan guys who make Phantasy Star, Puyo Pop, Sonic Adventure, Sonic 2006, Secret Rings, and Black Knight.

You have the new team which made Unleashed, Colors, and Generations.

Then the fourth team just does cell phone games.
I can't believe how fucking ignorant people are. Sega's not even the ones in charge, it's SAMMY. Sammy's been in charge of the company since they merged seven years ago.

>>116597617
eh, I was more fond of colors, even if the stages were pretty short. which is funny, because my first impression on sonic's modern stages felt too long.

>>116597031
I'm not defending the game by any means. I am just genuinely curious as to how such a sub-par mini game got such high review scores.

>>116597610

Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Heroes weren't even made by the same people! Heroes, Shadow, and NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams were made by Sonic Team USA.

Holy fuck the ignorance in this thread is making the vein in my forehead pulsate.

>>116597884
>Sonic Chronicles
>A "minigame"

It's become beyond evident that you're just a retard who spews random video game terms without any grasp on what they even fucking mean, thus, explaining anything to you is a waste of time. Piss off.

>>116597764
Still doesn't affect my question, fag.
>Core Sonic Team Japan
OH MAI GAWD THIS SHIT'S UH-MAY-ZIN'-Tier
>Phantasy Star, Sonic Adventure

What the fuck is this shit?-Tier
>Sonic '06, Black Knight

>>116597919
well i didn't know that, but that would explain a whole lot, i didn't look too hard into the development teams on sonic games, other than bioware because that shit was plastered everywhere.

>>116597884
Not a mini game, what the fuck? This phone has a mind of its own.

>>116598091

Yes it did answer your question. You asked how two different games could be made by the same company. I told you how; Companies consist of different development departments which break down into different development teams who all make different types of games.

Sonic Generations and Sonic 2006 are completely different games because they're made by completely different development teams.

Why so butthurt, fag?

>>116598091
>question gets answered
>get mad and change question

>take a great song from Sanic 3D blast
>completely fuck it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoKdca4FGHs

Let's get this shit started

>Bioware

>No Tails Doll

>>116596706
Akira Toriyama jacked the Super Saiyan transformation straight out of Sonic 2, which was his favorite game when making creating that part, he also ripped off Kirby with Buu, Megaman with Dr. Gero's Androids, (he's obviously Doctor Wily)
Goku in Z is an obvious Superman knock off, and Piccolo is a combination of Batman & Martian Manhunter, Gohan being his Robin, and Trunks a combination of Marty Mcfly, the man John sent back in time in terminator,and Booster gold.

Akira Toriyama puts a TON of winks and nods at various things he liked in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z

>>116598490
>mfw sonic chronicles music
i didn't understand or what to quite make of the fucking music in that game.

>>116598490

They had some guy writing original music for the entire game. Last minute he bailed, so Bioware just stole a bunch of shitty fan remixes from OCRemix or whatever that site is called, ran them through a .midi converter, then put them in the game.

That doesn't explain why the game uses 1960s Hanna Barbarra sound effects, though.

>>116598660
>Akira Toriyama jacked the Super Saiyan transformation straight out of Sonic 2

>DBZ originally aired in Japan in 1989, after the manga was originally written
>Sonic 2 was made in 1992

Kill yourself.

No Secret Ring, Black Knight, Rush Adventure, ect.

>>116598490
I honestly can't remember anything from dark brotherhood and I played at least half of that game.
How the fuck did I forget this?

>>116598660

Uh, no? Sonic 2 was set to be released on the same day as the Dragonball Z anime was set to air the episode where Goku first goes super saiyan, so it was added as an easter egg and a nod to DBZ, not the other way around. Get your facts straight.

All good Sonic games use the yellow Sonic logo with the blue border.

All bad Sonic games use the blue Sonic logo with another color border.

Prove me wrong.

>>116599162
What about games that use both?

>>116599298
They're the best games ever

>>116599162
Checks out so far.

so, on a generations related note. Does anyone know where I can get the song that plays when you face Vector in a beat off contest?

>>116594552

Hear a lot of bad things about this. Still wanna try it one of these days.

>Sega Sonic
>Implying Sonic Team had anything to do with Battle & Advance 3

>>116599767

No, you don't.

The cutscenes are all puppet and strings Flash animated, like Crash Canyon.

>>116599767

Tell me you still want to play after watching the first nine minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLqarw76fCQ

>>116594552
Worse than Sonic 2006.

>that feel when i first played sonic, i thought his name was sega because he ran by the sega logo twice and it would then say the name

>>116594552

God no, that game made me go from thinking Bioware doesn't know how to make games to straight up hating them.

It's the worst RPG I've ever played. The battles are tedious, leveling up is a chore, there is no chance for exploration except a couple screens of static images Sonic pretends to interact with and the story is retarded.

The only good thing about it was you could make Sonic be a complete asshole.

>>116600087

>my face when that's ridiculous

>>116599917

The characters, music, coding, and scenarios introduced in all DIMPS games featuring Sonic become property of SegaSammy and Sonic Team.
The characters, music, coding, and scenarios introduced in all Backbone games featuring Sonic became property of SegaSammy and Sonic Team.

>>116599161
>Uh, no? Sonic 2 was set to be released on the same day as the Dragonball Z anime was set to air the episode where Goku first goes super saiyan, so it was added as an easter egg and a nod to DBZ, not the other way around. Get your facts straight.
That makes no fucking sense. How would the fuck would Sega put something as an easter egg and nod to something set to air the same day as the game releases. That's retarded.

What probably happened was Akira Toriyama, who worked as a writer and art developer for Enix and had friends at Sega had been beta testing the game for them, noticed this part and decided it looked cool enough to put in his anime.

>Go through thread
How are there people not saying Sonic '06 was the worst Sonic game?

>Except Rotor

>>116600317

Sonic Chronicles exists, that's how.

>>116600509
>Shitty 3D render of a character with absolutely no sense of polygon count or texture resolution to fit the game

Looks more like something I'd except from a 3D Nick Jr cartoon.

>>116600317
because it's just a good contender with other shitty sonic games. i can see it being bad for shitty controls, the graphics looking like a horrible hybrid cross breed between a dreamcast era game and a next gen game, the story being pretty ridiculous at the same time mediocre, and the introduction of some new characters. but does that really make it the worst sonic game? i mean when you think about it, adventure followed the same format minus the next gen graphics.

>>116600315

I know this is a troll, but I'm going to respond anyway.

The development team happened to be a big fan of DBZ, and put Super Sonic in as an obvious reference to DBZ. The manga had already been out long before Sonic 2, so the concept wasn't new.

>>116600859
Side note. Death Egg was a nod to Star Wars!

>>116600040

Watched the whole thing. I'll admit those cutscenes are pure ass but the overworld and combat still look fun. Probably, still end up giving it a try.

>>116596653
This was during the time where everybody was going "IT'S A SONIC GAME NOT MADE BY SONIC TEAM? WELP, MUST BE GOOD."

This is back when we had all fooled ourselves into thinking Dimps was a good developer.

>ctrl+f
>Chao
>no results.

:|

>>116600645
>>116600317

Sonic Chronicles, Secret Rings, Black Knight, Sonic 4: Episode 1. Four current gen Sonic games worse than Sonic 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbwqUip7so&feature=related
sounds horrid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8awNQl1vybs
sounds amazing

anyone else agree? i mean, they are both the same song.

>>116600616
And this?

>>116594865
>Is that supposed to be the final boss music from sonic 3

>>116600983
>the overworld and combat still look fun.

There is no more hope left in /v/.

>>116601152

hnngg

>>116601082
and i've only played chronicles.

>>116601020
But Dimps WAS a good developer.
Then 2005 happened.

>>116601216

Yup, someone's opinion is different from yours. All hope is lost.

>>116601082
You would seriously play Sonic '06 over Sonic 4 if given the choice?