>not watching Hiya

>>116497109
>watching BW

>>116497109
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/yosul
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/yosul
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/yosul
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/yosul
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/yosul

Does anyone ever go to the battlenet forums or team liquid and read the balance suggestions they post. I honestly do this everyday it is one of the more entertaining parts of my day. here are some examples

1)I think Stim should have a 40 second cooldown. That way Terrans have to be smart about when they use and cant just continually spam it.

2) -How to balance TvP- Stalker is now considered a 'light' unit.
Done.

3)Make stim reduce the MAXIMUM HP of the unit by 10 instead of the current HP by 10. After all, they have combat shields to compensate.

>>116497181
/v/ is better at this

A sad day indeed

>>116497181

>Stalkers now light
>Zealots, Stalkers, Sentries, now all light units
>Lol hellions

Yeah...

>>116497181

I saw one once that said Reactors were overpowered since they let you produce 2 Marines at once, while Protoss can only produce 1 Zealot at a time. I wish I was joking.

>>116497152
>>116497124

Awesome. Gonna leave for work in an hour, this is just what I need.

>>116497181
>2) -How to balance TvP- Stalker is now considered a 'light' unit.

enjoy mass hellion silly fag

>>116497181
>>116497283
They were kidding, right? Right?

>>116497305
If he would hurry up and play a game.

Alright... So...

Okay, here's what we learned from the last thread...
-Huk is a shit player until he wins two back to back GSL's against Mvp and/or Nestea in the finals.
-Everyone on /v/ hates Huk, except the people who don't really care about his personality and acknowledge that he's actually good.

Protoss pretty op now that they're figuring out turtle on 3 base is acceptable PvZ and storms are still awesome PvT...

They'll still cry though.

>>116497366
I think his personality is funny and he's quite moe~

Also he is good starcrafter.

>>116497366

What if I hate him and his personality, but still think he's good?

>>116497407

>Terran players today refused to make Ghosts or upgrade their units
>The only ZvP was July who still doesn't know that you can take a free 3rd when a Protoss goes FFE

>>116497109

>Watching Random Korean gibber and type moonrunes on ancient broodwar UI

>>116497366
I don't like him because I don't like protoss in general. MC is the only protoss I like because somehow his cocky and agressive gameplay (that isn't pvp) makes his games worth watching. I honestly turn off streams when PvP plays because it is so uninteresting. That seems to be the only MU I usaully see Huk play.

dat jinro heat seeker

>>116497366
I don't care about his personality. He's hideous to look at though, which bothers me since he's representing the white race, and on stage he always has and expression like something crawled up his ass. Pro gamers should be presentable. Just ask Boxer.

Really he's just another boring player I don't give a shit about, but since he's white and gets sent to enough tournaments to win eventually the hype/attention he receives is way disproportionate to his actual skill.

>>116497366
/v/ is starting to go full autistic with its unexplained hatred. Huk is objectively good, saying that he gets lucky draws is just stupid. Yeah, he got lucky catching Puzzle's warp prism, but guess what: The warp prism had vision of Huk's army, yet he deployed it. It's Puzzle's fault.

>>116497604
>objectively

>>116497425
Personally, I find it's best to just ignore personality and just look at the games instead.

With the exception of MarineKing and Idra. Those two are polar opposites and I want them to face each other in every tournament, just to see MKP troll the fuck out of Idra in chat and with marines.

Huk os objectively bad. This is not debatable.

>>116497668
What's wrong with it?

HIYA PLAYING

>/v/ suddenly praises player that won
nothing new to see

>>116497800
Get in here.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/yosul

>>116497800

Where.

What is the current metagame in ZvP and ZvT for the Z ?

>>116497604
/v/ has had nothing but full on, unexplainable autistic rage and hatred for Huk for as long as I can remember.
It is by no means a recent development.

And actually, I haven't even been on /v/ in a few months, so it's surprising to see that the Huk-Hate is still so prevalent, even with him getting consistent results ever since Dreamhack.

>>116497858

ZvP = Mass Muta/Automatic Win

ZvT = Faggots trying to copy Stephano

>>116497858

>>116497858
make zurglin
maek muta

>>116497858
ZvP:
Protoss gonna FFE. Take a fast third, tech to mutas. Harass nonstop.

>>116497840
Just observing by the way, but it's still better than SC2 streams.

Muta+ling vs Protoss

What's the counter.

>>116498037
archons

>>116497858
Muta-ling always has been the best for all three matchups.

It's just taking players like Nestea and Idra to start showing people that it's true.

In zvp you can get away with going nothing but roaches though.

>>116498037
Good blink stalker positioning and control.

>>116498037
Zealot\Stalker\Ht\Archon

>>116498037
Storms

>>116498089

>Storm
>Damage over time on a fixed area
>Muta/Ling is the fastest army in the game

>>116498124
>lings die from half a storm

>implying I'm not the hero esports needs

>>116498076
mass roach works as long as roaches are ahead on upgrades

>>116498173
Like killing a couple lings means shit

>>116498037
maek stalker

>>116498124
Also one of the most squishy armies.

Does the Heart of the Swarm expansion remove Protoss from the game?

>2600+ Masters Protoss

>>116498173
And nothing of value was lost

>>116498201
It means.. you can never engage....

>>116498216
No. They need a selling point for SC3.

>>116498214

Zerglings are surprisingly cost efficient when it comes to health pool and DPS. They're actually by far the most cost efficient damage in the entire game. And Mutalisks are Mutalisks.

>>116498037
You can do pretty much anything, but go mass blink stalker.
Protoss is such a stupid race...

On one hand it's baffling to me that such a shitty race can actually function.
But on the other hand, it's such an easy-as-fuck bullshit race that it's baffling to me that some protoss can't make diamond.

Terran is my main race at a diamond level but I'm actually better with protoss just because it's so stupid and easy.
I've switched to zerg, but I might go with toss instead just so I can do 2base all-in bullshit up to top 8 masters.

>>116498111
nice

>>116498264
>melee

>>116498124
Even walking by the storm hurt badly an army of zgling.

>>116498180
>moletrap - 342.jpg
>342

>>116498310

Zealots are slow, so being melee is a big disadvantage to them. Zerglings are like greased lightning, so who gives a fuck.

>>116498359

>>116498013

Yea just noticed. ;\

>>116498124
>Storms
>10 Damage per half second
>Lings
>35 hp

The fucking units designed solely to counter mass muta are completely useless.

Blink stalkers
Thors
Archons

The only thing that counters mass muta is fungal and only zerg has it.

>>116498391
You're a special kind of moron if you believe being melee isn't a big disadvantage to zerglings

>>116498463
Archons are pretty boss against mutas since they have a decent attack animation.

>>116498391
Zealots 3-shot almost anything, survives a shit-ton of damage if they are unable to 3-shot. Got a ton of hp/shield
And can get charge-upgrade which is a guaranteed slice.

Now, how is that 4 damage from a ling able to counter 20 damage from zealot?

>>116498501

I know it's a disadvantage, but at the same time 1 Zergling has as much DPS as a 125/50 Stalker. Rough with the smooth. Whereas Zealots are rough with the rough.

>>116498463
Stimmed marines are pretty good.
But marines are also the counter to everything in the game.

>>116498463
Funny. How you claim those are bad against muta, due to mutaes countering them by spreading out, eyt you list fungal as a counter to muta when it has a minimum hit-place

I guess this kind of retardation is used to discuss balance

>that feel

Oh wow, nice flank on the mutas in hiyas stream

>>116498542
Lings are still the highest DPS unit in the game though. They are fragile and fast, but they are easily massable. Anything who tries to imply lings are terrible units needs to just go back to the battlenet forums.

>>116498463
>Marines
>Marines with stim

>>116498542

Go into a unit tester, attack move 1 Zealot and 4 Zerglings at each other. Zerglings win every time.

>>116498610
K nothing counters mutalisks. Guess you win the argument?

>>116498569

Stalkers have a lot more hp, are ranged, and can blink.

>>116498640

Link to Hiya.

>>116498413
>that feel when you can't sleep and imagining Taeyeon's tiny body next to you under the covers instantly puts you into a deep and pleasant slumber

>>116498569
I'm not interested in discussing unit vs unit, since 1) it is completely irrelevant to the discussion and 2) its fucking retarded regardless

>>116498661

Go into a real game, attack move 20 zergling against 10 zealot, guess who win

>>116498661
What is a choke.

>>116498661
Sigh, of course they will win, because of how they scale.
Send in 1-by-1, and see

>>116498693
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/yosul

>>116498742
but lings come in pairs

>BW>SC2
>Zerg is easy mode
>Huk is actually good
>Terran requires the most micro
>Upgrade cheese isn't cheese
>Nestea is fat
>Husky is actually good now
>Khaldor should be fired because he can't speak English well enough
>Doa didn't marry his cousin
>The Moletrap incident is real
>Banjo never actually beat the AI
>Jinro was never good
>Idra is the best all-around foreigner
>Stephano cheats
>Hellion micro is difficult
>Mutalisk micro is the most APM intensive in the game
>Forcefields are click to win
>SC2 is slowly dying
>David Kim is a terran main
>Banelings should do reduced damage if detonated underground
>Blink stalkers aren't actual micro
>Tanks should do 70 damage again
>Protoss detection is the best
>The Adjutant is the best portrait
>Playing Random takes less skill
>The Xel'naga will be playable in LotV
>Terran isn't the most mechanically challenging race
>Warhounds look like Mechs because of an unreleased join pub campaign with Mechwarrior
>Shredders actually deploy in 3 seconds
>Idra's one time GF fucked Demuslim and Machine
>Incontrol actually had sex once
>Marines should be 4 range with an upgrade
>Stalkers should do AoE damage to air
>Tastosis fake the homolust
>Clide isn't the best Terran
>Kimchi is actually good
>Kpop sluts take hot loads from 60 year old men
>/v/
>etc.

>>116498686

Per resource spent, Stalkers acually have considerably less health than the same amount spent on Zerglings.

>>116498740

Zerglings can pick and choose their fights due to their speed.

>>116498715
Zealots are 2 supply.
Zerglings are half a supply each. Do that math again, retard.

>>116498703
I like that feel, might have to steal it

>>116498642
No one was trying to say zerglings are shit units

Do you even know what you are talking about?

>>116498715
40 llings vs 10 zealots if zealots have +1 they will without lings will.

>>116498786
>Huk is actually good
You started strong but I had to stop here.

>>116498823

>Give Zealots +1 attack
>Don't think of giving Zerglings +1 armour, because that'd just be unfair, players would NEVER do that!

>>116498823

Or zealot can simply position in a choke/against a wall and win

>>116498786
I stopped reading at the Huk part then random skipped to something about Idra. In the end wasn't worth my time reading.

>>116498887
Protoss should be ahead in upgrades, like zergs should be ahead in bases.

>>116498887
Because giving lings +1 armor changes absolutely nothing. If you knew about the game I wouldn't have to even reply to this.

>>116498892

No one would send their Zerglings into a meat grinder, and since they're 2x faster than Zealots, they can just run.

>>116497257
>116497257
P UP T OP

>>116498943
+1 zealots 2-shot zerglings without upgrades
+1 zealots vs +1 armor zerglings is exactly the same as no upgrades

Do you even play this game?

Motivate me to press the button, /v/

>>116498943

Excuse me? Oh wow. Allow me to try and explain this in small words for you. With +1 attack, Zealot damage goes from 8x2 to 9x2. This mean Zealots can now 2 shot Zerglings. If a Zerg gets +1 armour, Zealot damage goes back to 8x2, meaning Zealots now only 3 shot Zerglings again.

>>116498946

Apperantly you've never played teamgames with your bronze friends.

Fuck my bronze friends.

Are you idiots really comparing zealots and lings heads up. They have exact opposite roles. Zealots tank, lings dps.

>>116499009
DO IT FAGGOT

>>116499009
Do you enjoy playing versus Zerg? Because you will if you press it.

>>116498967
>oGs_TOP
>TOP
>T OP

>>116499000
>Hurr implicitly stating in the original point giving zealots a attack upgrade over the zerglings.
Argue about not hypothetically giving lings the same upgrade. Why would I even make the point of giving the zealots a attack upgrade advantage if I wanted to compare them at base vlalues.

How do you get the 'StarCraft Master' portrait and what does it look like? It's on the portrait selection screen now in game beweet the Predator and the Adjutant.

>>116499179
Because its common for protoss to be ahead on upgrades in a real game with chronoboost. But you don't even ladder, do you?

>implying in 6 months the only Ts in Code S won't be Fin, MVP, Happy, and the Slayers gang.

>>116499277
>Flash not creating his own team and slapping the shit out of Boxer and his sons.

>>116499273
You just agreed with me.

>>116499277
You mean the only ones who weren't being carried by their race till now? That seems right.

>>116499428

>Every single player in code S is Terran
>"B... but it's n... not the race, they're just b... better!"

>>116499081

>>116499428
>Terrans
>carried by their race

Funny way to spell Zerg

>wake up
>check GSL results expecting to do an >EG
>HuK 2-0'd his group, the protosses raped everybody

wat

Also, maybe overbuffed a bit?

THE NUKE IS GOING TO LAND ON HIS ARMEEEEEEEEEEE

>>116499553
I don't believe they played with the patch the next round will though.

>>116499499
Check how many Terrans went down, compare them to P and Z who did.
>>116499519
That's true as well. Terrans WERE carried, until a month ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcm9oXkxo-s&feature=related

As the youngest member of Korean boyband SS501, Hyungjun is no stranger to Starcraft. The MBCgame PD's decide to have a bit of fun and set him up training to become a progamer.

See Min Chul (MC) and MKP in their brood war days.

>>116499034
Shit is the worst.

The thing with my friends is that two of them used to play a lot of BW, and when Sc2 came out they were a lot better than me. It felt shitty because I was usually the burdening teammate.

Then I kept playing, and eventually hit diamond.
Now they're practically useless and do some of the dumbest bullshit ever.
But whatever... I pretty much do troll builds every 3v3 and 4v4 anyway...

>>116499416
Yeah woops, greentext confused me. I guess im replying to the person you are replying to.

>that feel when I have a friend who plays P and he constantly complains how P is UP and not winning tournaments etc
>that feel when he 6-2 me even though he is in a lower league and he has like 60% less APM than me

>>116499629

that series is awful and hyungjun is obnoxious as fuck

i'd recommend nal_ra's oldboy

>>116499700
So obviously P OP right?

It has nothing to do with you being shit?

>>116499614
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncdu5OFGJOk

I like HuK for HuK/IdrA shipping. Delicious hatesex.

>>116499761
read:
>i am silver T, he is bronze P, i micro my marines against zealots, why am i not winning?

>>116499769

>>116499734
hyungjoon had more actual starcraft than nal_ra's oldboy

plus it was hilarious, shut up about mai progamer

>>116499770
>shipping

Mech is so fucking good in TvZ, how do Zerg players usually stop Thor/Tank/Hellion?

I want to get a feel for the timing/strategy that the Z player uses so I can be one step ahead.

>>116499761

both

>>116499700
Protoss is stronger in lower leagues.

>>116499948
scfags and kpopfags have been doing it forever.

Don't judge me.

Goddamnit Hiya play a game you lazy bastard.

>>116500043
>Magic box mutas
>win

ZvP
Why don't Zergs just 11pool all the time and if they see a wall off with a Zealot, Drone Drill?

>that feel when tyler is no longer streaming and has gone back into depression ;_;

>>116500043
Muta to start, but get Broods fairly quickly. Once you have some of those out, it's GG. It's hard to deal with if you're slow teching and don't scout it.

>>116500203

>that feel when you discover how to target fire while magic boxing

>>116500298
Yo, I was at work when DRG got fucked in his group, how do you feel about it bro? Feelin' good?

>>116500374
I felt complete

>>116500440
haha
poor clide though :/ i think his code S days are over from here on out.

Don't forget EUbros.

/v/sl 2.0 signup:
http://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/jzozhs5djd
/v/sl 2.0 map pool voting:
http://micropoll.com/t/KEydxZDguQ

>>116500298
>>116500374
>>116500440
>>116500489
Blatant samefagging

>>116500541
>/v/
>EU

This tournament is shit.

>>116500580
try again bro.

>>116497181
>emploritating that /v/ isnt worse at times

Reminder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26-YW4Qcj-o

>>116500665
>insinuating /v/ is serious with their balance suggestions while people on other forums think their opinions are valid because HURRRRRRRR I'M DIAMOND LOL

>>116500580
>mfw i could see why you'd think so

>>116500703
>Bisu vs Jaedong
>Not Bisu slapping the shit out of Savior

>>116500631
>>116500749
Go to bed calasmere.

>>116500832
But it's the middle of the day and I'm not Calasmere

What the fuck is wrong with MKP's nose in this picture?

http://imgur.com/Fc1h1

>>116500951
Old daddy Calasmere is going to teach you something. You can post images from the internet on 4chan, just as if you had them on your computer, by putting the image adress in the file field.

>>116500951
Hot damn, really anon? REALLY?

based huk is streaming

>>116501355
Who cares? Hiya's playing zerg.

>>116501441
>broodwar

Haha oh wow.

>>116501464
rofl, served

Why is Hiya delaying his switch to SC2 when he already said that he will switch?

Dem groups.

HUK IS ON: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/HuK

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1014488/The-Game-Design-of-STARCRAFT

That feel when Dustin Browder has impressed me.

>>116501831
>another protoss

Protoss streams are the fucking most boring thing in existence and I play protoss myself

huk vs nestea

>>116501755

because it would buttfrustrate kespa to have bw players moving without their official consent.

HUK VS NESTEA

HUK V NESTEA
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/HuK

NES FUCKING TEA

oh shit nestea

HuK just got Nestea on ladder
Get the fuck in here

>>116501808

Will HuK even beat Leenok? I don't know how he's been doing lately...I hope Happy dominates, MC gets his mojo back, and MVP doesn't completely rape everything

>>116501952
>>116501961
>>116501970
>>116501972
>>116501982

Holy nestea-mind

Are there no real strategical pushes in this game outside of TvT and sometimes TvZ?

I've been playing for about a month and am in Diamond league. I'm just not seeing the positional strategy this game was supposed to offer.

Why are you playing so serious, Huk?

>>116501938
More like because SC2 isn't as fun to watch and none of the Koreans on Afreeca give a shit about it.

7POOLED