Won't support Origin.

Serious question, why would you play either?

They don't know any better.

graphics arent everything and some people like that close quarters kind of gameplay

They enjoy it.

Why do some people post on /v/ instead of playing video games?

http://www.overclock.net/video-game-news/1155275-various-battlefield-3-outrage-germany.html

here is a bunch of reasons

BF3 has shitty graphics compared to MW3

>lets paint half of it black to hide the low quality.

I don't understand why anyone would want to play either.

The whole "realistic" modern military shooter thing is just boring to me at this stage.

>>116218999
i hate origin, but yeah i have to use it.
BF3 is the only PC game i have actually purchased legitimately in the last few years

I...I don't have an answer, OP.

It's all the same shit. The only difference is that MW3 is on steam and Activision isn't trying to force Origin on us. Both EA and Activision are equally shitty.

because i want to hop into an online match for 10 minute and finish the match. i don't want to play a long match most of the time. don't get me wrong i enjoy both but mw3 fits better into the spare time i do have after work

I bought them both for PC because I enjoy FPS games.

>>116219124

>implying Activision isn't forcing STEAM on us

At least the SP will be better in MW3.

Because all kids want to do is run and gun and quickscope with killstreaks.

no vehicles. no large maps.

Sure you could fly a jet and get a kill but thats hard. Better to get 5 kills and deploy an automatic jet.

This is what the popular wave of gaming is, know it
hate it.

>>116218944
>why would people play MW3 over BF3?
They want to be Rambo.

>>116219088

I would have been interested in BF3 except they "Went for the CoD crowd" thing.

Nope.

Also origin
Nope.

I want a shooter to play. But it has to be better than BF2 or CS

>>116219247

>complex
>Good

>>116219318
>complex
> inherently bad

>>116218944
>>116218944

I see it like a newer Quake or Doom. Just runnin and gunnin, same way online. Casual but fun, it's a no-brainer. You can troll kiddies online and have some fun with friends.

>>116219310

Nostalgiafags need not apply in this discussion

OP here, i know graphics arnt everything.
i was more pointing towards the vehicle aspect of BF3 and MW3's lack of vehicles.

>>116219357

Depends on how it's executed.

>shove in complexity without looking at the big picture
>bad

>shove in more features that make sense and add to the game in a meaningful manner
>good

>>116218944

>serious question. why would people play MW3 over BF3?

>serious question. why would people want to have fun?

Everyone has their own biases. Mine just happens to lay with BF3 because I enjoy it more. MW3 wont be a bad game, far from it. The coop aspect of it will be a blast, that's for sure.

But I'm simply not interested in it. I've been playing BF since 2, and it's just an attachement you develop. There are people here that like games which may have recieved some pathetic reviews. Do they care? No, because irrespective of other peoples opinions, they enjoyed it, and that's what matters.

OP is just trying to raise a shit storm. Just give him 0/10 and leave (I gota give him 10/10 because I replied with this).

>>116219416

>Vehicles
>Unlimited ammo
>Good

>>116219247

Bcs ur sooo kewl if you maek 360 noscope xDD

the graphics and controls are way better in MW, that right there is enough to turnoff the casual average gaymer

>>116219405

New games that are worse than 10 year old games do not apply in any discussion.

>>116219496

>Graphics
>Better in MW

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

sometimes people just want to kill shit with out needing to stratigise with a team or lurk around a map for 5mins.

>>116219318
and removing choice is good?
BF3 is a bunch of games, depending on how you want to play.
in conquest rush you can go infantry, or minigun gunner on a chopper or fly the chopper if you want. You can fly a jet or roll around in a tank busting other tanks.

If you want straight up infantry fights, you can play one of those matches. Inf only, small map TDM.

If you want somthing more along the lines of unreal torment attack maps, you play rush.

CoD you have, inf TMD, inf CTF, inf KoTH inf Bomb

thats it.
lack of choice != better gameplay

>>116219239
Origin is the only way to play BF3, no matter where you purchase it

Steam is optional, you can get MW3 from multiple DD services

Good thing I have BF3 and am getting MW3, sure feels good not to be poor I traded in my xbox

because

>>116219496
>the graphics and controls are way better in MW

Are you fucking kidding me? CoD has some of the worst graphics out there for modern FPSs.

>Cowadooty
>Run and gun on small maps
>little to no reliance on your actual teammates
>Tons of blinking lights and guitar riffs when you do well

This recipe offers instant gratification, it's really no wonder that the kiddies and casuals eat it up so much

>Battlefeel
>Big maps, as such you can't "run and gun" like Rambo. You gotta play smart.
>Much more reliant on staying with your teammates, especially since different classes offer you different types of support.
>Overall, much slower paced gameplay but it doesn't help that people still try to play this like cowadooty, they'll just rush in and be a huge drain on your team's life-tickets.

There's no question that this is the better, more hardcore choice

Call of duty is fast and frantic, the gunplay is great and the single player is amazing. It is easily a pick up and play game and doesn't take its self seriously.


Battlefield 3 tries to hard and fails at every step. Quality over quantity

>>116219551

So is MW3. It's using Steamworks.

At least STEAM is has proved itself to be a decent DD service.

hellloooooooo everyone, my name is seananners and i just wanted to remind you all that i made $250000 last year from playing MW2/blops on the xbox360 while you made nothing alone in your room

People only interested in infantry combat without having to worry about getting blown away by a tank or helicopter.

CoD is now like Quake/UT for the current generation of kids who just play on consoles, except it isn't nearly as awesome and the skill ceiling is incredibly lowered. CoD players just want to leap around and get headshots as fast as possible. they don't want to use teamwork, the only speaking they do is shit talking. every game plays like a fast (relative to BF3) deathmatch.

>>116219653

>doesn't take its self seriously.

>little girl getting blown up by exploding van.mkv

I loved COD, cause I hated what happened to Battlefield after BF2... BF3 loved me back well enough, actually cancelled my pre-order for MW3, still pondering if I'm going to change my mind tomorrow. :\ I guess it would be for the kind of "Pure Infantry" mano-e-mano vibe, that was completely ruined in MW2. So I don't know OP. My best answer would be to see how the Campaign ends, story of Cpt. Price and Cpt. MacTavish

>>116219635

>Still using the outdated casual and hardcore argument

Other than that, yeah I agree.

Now that personal preferences, and opinions are sorted, is that Daniel Craig on the left?

The only problem with BF3: Most everyone is retarded and fails at teamwork, thus not having bros to play with = dying lots or playing ridiculously defensive.

In BF2 you used to be able to at least join a squad of your choice and work together. Now because of that whole game joining a squad for you bullshit (as well as being able to spawn on everyone in your squad) completely kills teamwork by ironically forcing it. The morons that want to just run around doing nothing are now in squads taking up the stupidly small amount of player spots per squad (4 is NOT enough in 64 player maps) meaning that players who WANT to work together get assembled randomly through out all the squads. Take out voice chat and you've got yourself absolutely no teamwork in a supposedly teamwork based game.

>>116219635

That's exactly why I have more fun with Call of Duty. I get bored playing Battlefield. It's too slow.

I'm 24 years old, white, and an elementary school teacher. Clarifying before you assume I'm a little kid.

>>116219583
>that feel
oh god ;__;

>>116219874
WELL IF UR IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STILL THEN YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE ROFL

is it me, or do all the guns in BF3 sound the same?
they sound like paintball guns

everything else sounds great, just like in BC2, but the guns sound meh

>>116219588
>>116219527
on consoles, where the majority of people play said games, the graphics on MW3 are much better.

>>116219852
>yfw you realise that MW3 release won't get rid of the stupid

Sorry guys, that's just a human feature if you haven't realised. It's here to stay....

>>116218944

because BF3 is really just BF:BC 2.5 and has just as much copypasta as the cod series, some of us would rather play with noobtubes and quickscopefags than torchmonkeys and tank whores.

>>116219998
>Im taller than you
>you may be taller than me, but if i cut your legs off, than i am in fact taller than you

>MW3 should be called Scripted Action Shooter 3

>you might as well have rockets shooting out of every weapon in the game

and while youre at it

>blow the fuck out of the whole world
seriously, in that game (mw, mw2, mw3)
the earth has been nuked
every other place on earth has been destroyed somehow

i cant tell if the MW developers are wanting you to concentrate more on the story
shit
the fucking RPG grenade might as well roll over to you
and tell you
"i'm going to BLOW YOU UP. so the story can advance"

>>116220054
At least there's a new engine
Can't say that about MW

>>116218944
Funny enough, the MW3 dude looks like he has more polygons on his helmet.

Because, fuck you I want my awesomeness every second.

>>116220078

I'm sorry, all I read in that was: 'THAT ASS! DAT. ASS. OH. MY. CHRSIT. J-JUST LOOK AT DAT ASS....L-LOOK AT IT! OH GOD...OH MY GOOOOOD LOOK AT DAT ASSSSSSSS HOOOOOOOOOOLY SHIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEET-'

>>116219247
IF I COULD TRUST YOU FUCKTARDS NOT TO FLY THE FUCKING JET INTO THE FUCKING GROUND, LAND IT, GET OUT AND SHOOT THE ENEMY, I WOULD

I'd play MW3 over BF3 because:

-BF3 runs slow as fuck on my PC while MW3 just might run properly, like MW2 (and unlike fucking BLOPS)

and

-Battlefield is boring for me. Slow, full of nothing but campers (at least you can properly rush in CoD), snipers that kill you seconds after you spawn, and machine guns that have better accuracy over range than sniper rifles (at least when I use them, don't ask). Its movement is clunk, the controls feel loose, the gunplay feels weak.

-Wheareas in CoD, guns feel awsome (that idtech engine shows itself), controls are tight, and movement is fast and fluid.

Also, sniper rifle shots in CoD sound like sniper rifle shots. In BF3 they sound like a little kid hitting the floor with a toy whip.

i am modern warfare

>>116218944
origin,and poorfags with a 2007 pc
if BF3 comes to steam, MW3 is officially dead

>>116220168

okay... I would rather play BF3 over cod if I had the money for a good battlestation. but I really love the mw story and games, I'm not quite sure how I would feel about mw3 if I played it since the development went to shit late last year. I just get tired though with all the baseless bullshit directed at the cod series. if any development deserves /v/s rage it's bioware, lucasarts and lionhead.

Well I didn't play MW3, but BF3 is terrible, so there's a reason.

>>116220374
Signed. Still, I'm a little worried what MW3 might end up being after blops. IDK I guess blops multiplayer was a success but I wasn't impressed by the story at all.

>>116218944
I don't find BF3 fun, I'm a really aggressive and enjoy constant firefights. I don't mind BF3 I just don't really enjoy it.

It seems like people here don't know that you can also just run around and spray bullets like a crazy nigger in BF3. Just pick a tdm server.

>>116220230

Can you land jets in BF3?

>>116220622

don't compare IW cod with treyarch cod and expect a serious discussion.

>>116220373

>implying you won't need to use ORIGIN on top of STEAM

>>116220336
>>116219844
Fuck....

>>116220686

>people playing TDM in BF

serious question.

why would people play BF3 over ARMA2?

not trolling or anything but it just seems of such a waste of money or gigatrons if pirating.

>>116220719
Who the fuck is making it now?

I don't enjoy Battlefield because there's too much going on. Really I want something quick and easy, without much depth.

BF3 is pretty shitty, I'd say MW3 might be more fun than BF3 for like an hour but it's still shittier than the shit that is BF3. I fucking hate these modirn tacticool shooters, everything about them, EVERYTHING just bleeds homosexual. FPS I'm looking forward to are Tribes Ascend and Planetside 2.

Also, BF3's graphics were pretty unimpressive, especially the character models.

>>116220815

>>116220815

just... fuck you

>>116220772
BF3
Not because ARMA2 is a bad game but because the multiplayer in BF3 is more populated and its more fun for me.

Ive bought bf3 and Ive had the worst time ever, i didn't like bf2 that much either. every single cod Ive every bought except black ops Ive enjoyed. cant be that bad can it

I would play BF3 but it crashes every 20 fucking minutes. I'll probably play MW3 until DICE get their fucking act together and make the game work for me and the thousands of others experiencing the same issue.

Modern warfare, as a whole, is faster paced. It's a different kind of fun. The maps are generally much smaller than BF3 and there's less travel time before you find somebody to shoot. Also, the intangibles make a difference. A lot of people just like how CoD feels more than they like Battlefield.

Battlefield tends to be more slowly paced and requires a higher amount of teamwork, which is good, but not as brainless or relaxing as playing a couple rounds of TDM in CoD4 (again, not to say that CoD is for stupid people, or that BF3 is poorly paced, just saying that the games have different feels).

Both of them are perfectly acceptable games to like. Hope this helps OP.

>>116220374
>but I really love the mw story and games
I'll agree that the story is a hundred times better than the tripe in BF3, which is why I pirated MW2 and will pirate MW3.

>>116220940

>inb4 fun is a buzzword argument

Quick question people:

MW3 for PC or PS3?

>>116221040

>shottan
>ps3
>ps3 controller

>>116221040
Does it have dedicated servers? If so, PS3. Black Ops proved that the CoD community can't handle dedis. crouch only hardcore quickscoping 24/7 nuketown

>>116221040

>implying that needs to be answered

ITT : People getting all of their information stolen by EA through Origins

No, I'm not kidding, use google.

>>116221040
FPS on anything other than PC isn't FPS,

IMO BF3 was a massive disappointment.
Singleplayer was dull and extremely lack luster, not to mention that you can't see anybody over the particle effects and the awful choice in the colour pallet.

The multiplayer was good but still not great.
I just found it very boring and not as fast paced as i found BF2 and BC2.


Can't really say much for MW3, I've always said in the past i wouldn't get the next CoD but i always do eventually. I'm not excited for MW3 nor am i not wanting it. i'm just going to anticipate another MW2.

also
>>116221040
>playing shooters with a ps3 pad

you crazy.

>>116221099

>BF3 reviewer.jpg

>>116221040
if your PC handled MW2, you have no problems

>>116221109

yeah I heard they are trying to ban the game in germany

>>116221076
>>116221085
>>116221114

I'm only asking because I want to know if PC has any advantages over the console version (apart from K+M obviously).
Like more players per team and shit.

>>116221114
so what is it then?

why is the battlefield 3 soldier left handed

>>116221040

I'd go with a console for Modern Warfare. It has always struck me as if it weren't designed with KB+M in mind. Your player moves slowly (when compared with traditional PC shooters like Quake or UT), and using a controller forces the players to also move thier cursor more slowly as well (since higher sensitivities are harder to work with on a controller than with a mouse).

In general, I've found that when I play a MW game on the computer, people are pulling off crazy shit like diving around a corner, going prone in the air, and spinning 90 degrees to shoot you before they land, while on the console version those things are much harder to do, and you tend to get players playing more like human beings, instead of running around like hyperactive monkeys (which is fun, I love that shit, but CoD doesn't really strike me as a game that jives well with that kind of play).

Just my two cents.

MW3 and BF3 both look like shitty and disappointing games with retarded proprietary client shit.

How about instead of arguing over who has the more tacticool FPS, you ignore both of them and play something else?

>>116221194

not fps, what don't you get?

>>116221222

It's Quake without the health and armor.

Because we have a month and 17 days before the quickscope kids start coming on.

I own BF3 and i'm getting CoD tomorrow. I play BF3 for ULTRA REALISTIK GAEM and Jets while I play CoD with friends and treat it like an unrealistic as fuck action movie. It depends what your playing the game for not which is better. The debate is pointless as they are two completely different FPS styles.

>>116218944
People bought BF3 Expecting MW3, when it wasn't they got back to jacking off for MW3. BF3 is not a run and gun shooter like the COD series. BF3 is a war simulator and always has been.

People who prefer war simulators will prefer BF3. People who prefer run and gun will prefer CoD.

why would people play MW3 over BF3?

and not play Arma2 ?

You know what, OP? Both pics looks kinda the same to me. Because they're both from the fucking military shooters, CALL OF MODERN WARFAREFIELD #.

I miss the times when shooters was about a MAN vs DEMONIC ARMIES with all kinds of crazy weaponry, secrets and power-ups. Fuck realism! I want FUN back in my FPS games!

>>116221283
but that's fucking stupid.

oh well because it's on console it's no longer in first person because you're playing with a pad and you aren't getting as engrossed in the action hurp durp.

>implying CoD wasn't made for the console generation

>>116221298

It was never a war simulator.

It was an FPS with vehicles correctly integrated into the game. The game was always arcadey.

>>116221298

go play some OpFlashpoint, arma and swat and then get back to me on that.

>origin
>punkbuster

That's it for me.

>>116221392
It became arcade because of all the balance things that DICE put into. That and RPG spammers.

Cuz there's more noobs than pros :)
CoD is too easy imo, doesn't require much from a player to be #1, while in bf you need more teamplay to actually get your team to win.

The technically part bf3 is far ahead from cod, mw3 is stuck at 2007 while bf3 is pure 2011

>>116221452
Surprisingly I haven't had a single PB problem in BF3 yet, I got kicked in BC2 all the time.

>>116221370
>>116221370
>>116221370
>>116221370
>>116221370
>>116221370

SECOND

>>116221501

is the RPG the new Carl Gustav?

>>116221435

>implying Operation Flashpoint and ARMA are playable
>implying SWAT has anything to do with war

Fuck jets, I just want to have a shoot out.

EA

Origin

>>116221501

But it was arcadey in the first game of the series, 1942.

>>116221370
stick to painkiller then....

BF3 had an atrocious launch, and they are already trying to sell you on the DLC the was cut content from the game


fuck you stupid hipsters for supporting the death of the industry

>>116221581

>ARMA, OpF
>Not playable

Impatient retards everywhere.

There hasn't been a good Battlefield game since 2142 and BF3 is the most butchered and meddled with piece of shit I have ever seen.

Wake the fuck up, people. Literally the only reason you are not shitting on BF3 is because of this fucking stupid MW3/BF3 rivalry that means nothing at all.

I have both, but the majority of my friends are CoD fankids, so I'll get it to play with them because it's usually fun, rather than playing by myself on bf3, on my console

>>116221370
yeah, because every fucking FPS in existence must be "MAN vs DEMONIC ARMIES". no military shooters allowed.

because in mw3 people can just repeatedly respawn and sprint into the heart of combat within 5 seconds and get a kill every 2 or 3 deaths. that mentality in bf3 will make you go 0-20.

it's overall an easier game that appeals to casual gamers because it's so easy to get kills and doesn't require a significant time investment. on the other end of the spectrum are the 'hardcores' who farm said casuals and jerk off over their meaningless prestige icons and k/d.

>>116221749
I meant I had bf3, and will be getting mw3 in 3 hours, sorry.

>>116221580
Nah, the explosive radius is way smaller. Still needs to be reduced, and I say this as an engineer. I carry it to kill tanks, not people. It annoys me when people waste their ammo against infantry and then die when a tank rolls around.

Modern Warfare isn't my thing, but I play Battlefield 3 because I like the many "I have no idea what happened but that looked awesome." moments it gives.

I wish more games had that combined arms approach to their games. It's probably why Battlefield and Unreal Tournament 2004 are some of the only Multiplayer games I ever gave a shit about.

>>116221845

You mean like the Rocket launcher in 1942? Effective against tanks and shit radius so you can only kill infantry on direct hit?

>>116221695

>game is broken and buggy as fuck
>hurrrrr you're just impatient

Whatever

>>116221845
seconded.

>>116221930
I think a kill-radius of one meter should be enough, damage radius larger of course. It's a two-stage armor penetrating warhead, not a HE round.

>>116221943
How is ArmA broken?

>>116221943

>ARMA
>OpF
>Broken
>unable to understand actual military sims

Next thing you'll say Rainbow Six was a broken piece of shit.

Because there hasn't been a halo game released on PC in a while and I need my casual shootan fix.

Pic related because I think its an accurate depiction of an average day at microsoft headquaters.

can you troll your team with flashlights and lasers?

one of the reasons I play bf3.

>>116221139
>singleplayer
>giving a fuck about it
>BC2 fastpaced

You are the reason the flags are so squeezed togheter, you began with the bad company series, right?

>>116222172
>>singleplayer
>>giving a fuck about it
You're killing gaming

>>116222061

Rainbow Six was pretty good. I liked the fluid cover system.

>>116222210
>>116222172

If you don't give a fuck about singleplayer, you're the cancer killing gaming. Not caring about singleplayer encourages less content and lazier development.

>ArmA free
>looks worse than BF3 (and anything by these days) and runs 3 times slower

i'd play it if it FUKKEN WORKED RIGHT.

>>116222264
there never was single player in BF

Stop talking like you know something, your opinion about THIS FRANCHISE is worth nothing. BF is mp only, the single was just there to attract simple minded cod bufoons.

>>116222379
>implying the majority of the CoD fanbase even touches the SP
The three people I know who play CoD haven't even started it yet

>>116222379

I'm not even that poster you idiot. The fact that the devs included singleplayer at all means that I can critique that singleplayer.

>>116222264
>>116222379
and for the presses, i love me a good single player game, Unreal is my all times favorite pieces.

But BF, has no place in the SP world.

>>116222379
next you'll say everything should be multiplayer only

>implying multiplayer isn't killing gaming and the best thing ever known as singleplayer will be wiped away.

>>116221603
>>116221756

The thing is, that military shooters (i.e. american army propaganda) come out every year now, at least one game from each major franchise. And anything different about the previous games, or between the series is graphics.

The kids who play FPS games now have grown up playing these games. They rarely even know about, say, UT games, with no perks, leveling and other social networking bullshit. And developers know that, and they just clone and clone the same REALISTIC TACTICOOL shooters, because the kids eat it up.

I fucking LOVE Painkiller, but sadly, there's no new ones these days. Bulletstorm and DNF fell short of expectations, and I can already say that SS3 won't either. Prey 2 suddenly became some kind of cyberpunk-ish parkour game, I never asked for this.

I'm not blaming all on the modern gamers, they just don't any chance experience in the future something like I did. That's because of greedy companies, that now run the gaming "industry". But I do blame these players for not thinking outside the box, trying something new (well, something old, actually), and supporting the mindless cloning with high sale numbers.

man fuck single player for a battlefield game

if battlefield 3 didn't have campaign mode then maybe DICE wouldn't have been so retarded and released operation metro, grand bazaar, and damavand peaks as maps

BF3's multiplayer isn't great either. It's just a prettier BC2 with content hacked out of it for DLC purposes, and the game's navigation is a clusterfuck.

Also, Origin.

They are both equally shitty

>implying BF3 isnt just MW3 with jets.

Serious question.

Why would people spend their lives bitching about games on /v/ instead of playing games they like?

not trolling or anything but it just seems of such a waste of time or zimbabwe dollars if buying.

there's more quick paced action
see spawn dying
also k/d ratio more visible