>baawww optional mutliplayer I don't have to play at all ruined the game for me

Just fucking kill yourself already retard.

>>113347696

Did you miss the part where playing it and doing all that facebook shit unlocks single player stuff?

Don't you feel even a LITTLE bit angry about game companies forcing you to advertise for them to get to play the full game?

>>113347696

Don't buy it if what they're doing pisses you off.
That's what I'm doing.
I'm not even going to pirate it.

>>113347815

Did you miss the several times that they've said you can opt not to do ANY of the multiplayer or extra shit and still do everything in single player?

>>113347815
The only thing I'm angry about is how morons like yourself who can't read are allowed to live.

>>113347696

Fuck.

>In during biodrones.

No playable quarians? Disappointing. Also, if BioWare really does make us have to go through all that needless shit like Facebook and iOS games to unlock everything, I'm not sure if I'll bother playing it.

>>113348003

Except that's not true

>>113348114
>>113348003

You guys need to read between the lines. They know it'd be bad publicity if they came out and said "You won't get certain weapons/armors/plot threads if you don't do X, Y and Z", so they say things like “The more you play and build up your multiplayer characters to survive increasingly tough odds, the more power and influence your single-player Shepard will wield by the time the endgame comes based on the amount of War Assets earned.”

I'm calling it now - you'll still be able to get the best ending if you only play SP, but spamming facebook and grinding MP will be the only way to unlock certain pieces of DLC.

It's fucking evil of them, but I can see why they're doing it. Bioware know it'll a) get them free publicity if players spam it on facebook for bonus "war assets", and b) it makes pirates have to buy copies to get the full experience.

I don't even know if I'm going to bother with pirating this. ME1 was pretty good but I wished they had put more story in it.

Then ME2 came along and it was just sidequests: the game with characters I didn't like at all (except for that scientist, he was cool).

>facebook

what the fuck

i severely doubt that will happen, but even considering putting facebook compatibility in...

>>113347610
If multiplayer does change the "Galactic readiness level" then we simply do as the master race and trainer the fuck out of our savestates.

It is NOT hard people. Pirates have gotten their shit together since the dawn of time.

>>113348840
>implying that didn't happen with dragon age 2

But I don't have a facebook account...

Lucky I didn't bother buying the other two mass effect games because they were shitty, poorly written, easy as fuck casual games.

>>113348840 i severely doubt that will happen, but even considering putting facebook compatibility in.

Sorry dude, read the link.

IIRC, other games have had promotions where you get in-game stuff by spamming people on facebook, it's not that big a leap.

>>113348215
I want my pre-KotOR Bioware back.

>One day I'll look at my kids and say, "I remember the days when Bioware didn't make casual kiddie shit. There was a beautiful time when they didn't make games like Sonic Generations 85 and Fluffypuff Monsters IV Party, when they hadn't sold out."

>"That was before Mass Effect 2 came. DAII not long after. Mass Effect 3? The greatest letdown."

>>113348933

having never bothered to play any dragon age games, i attempted to call your bluff by googling that shit.

i'm now severely disgusted.

ITT: piratefags are mad they'll get a shit tier ending while I save my waifu and happily live with her ever after

>>113348663
No, it just makes pirates use Cheat Engine.

>Still buying Bioware games
>Still thinking there's a minor chance a Bioware game might be worth playing

>Facebook
>iOS
Yeah, this is a definite Day 1 Pirate.

>Commander "insert name here" has just married with the love of his life the asari Liara
>10 people like this

screenshots
story
gameplay
everything

about the fucking game looks more and more like a generic 3rd person shooter.

FUCK this generation of games.

>Unlike so many universes, where Earth lies as a wasteland, in ME it’s a jewel in the galaxy.

oh yeah so original no other universe has a well standing Earth

You guys do realize this is all optional? All you have to do is turn off "Galaxy at War" and you can unlock everything in singleplayer, except maybe a few guns. But all the endings and stuff like that are all still there.

I like how I bought all Bioware games and then stopped after KotOR.

Glad I didn't waste my money. This company has seriously gone to shit. Working with EA though, I didn't expect otherwise.

>>113349433
You can actually unlock everything, not just mostly everything, exclusively through single player:
>However, if you’re completest enough in the SP, you apparently won’t need to take part in the MP at all to receive all the same bonuses.

>>113349396
It's even more fun because ships need to activate their shields near earth because of all the space debris.

Holy shit LOOK AT THIS FUCKING SCREENSHOT!

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE COLOUR!!!?!?! IT'S ALL JUST SHADES OF FUCKING SHIT!

>>113349396
>jewel of the galaxy

but isnt it overpopulated to fuck and ridden with poverty?

The bioware timeline:
>ME1 comes out and /v/ loves it.
>DA:O comes out and /v/ loves it.
>ME2 comes out and /v/ loves it.
>DA2 comes out and /v/ (and the rest of the world) hate it.
>"Lol nvm the only good Bioware game was ME1 we never liked the others:

Have fun in your bandwagon, I'll be playing the 2012 game of the year with multiplayer functionality turned OFF.

Saw this coming, Bioware is long dead.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112502-BioWare-Co-Founder-RPGs-Are-Becoming-Less-Relevant

I knew this was going to happen lol. Enjoy your wasted potential Bioware.

>>113349506
Then I don't see the problem here. If anything this is great news. If it's really god then we have co-op in ME3, if it's really bad we don't have to worry about it. And if you just don't like it then you cn ignore it.

So what's the problem?

>>113349571

>>113349589

whit acid rains and garbage everywhere

>ME3 is doomed because they threw all the money at TOR

Search your feelings you know it to be tue.

>>113349589

Yeah because /v/ is one person.


ME1 - good could be better get's a lot of hype and praise because it's one of the first "NEXT GEN!!!" rpg games and it was a Xbox exclusive

DA:O - average as fuck with a boring ass story. Anyone saying that this game is anything above pure average never played an RPG in his life

ME2 - solid gameplay (if because a 3rd person shooter PERIOD) shit in RPG segment and story

DA2 - shit and that is a fact

>>113349571
Yeah, that's the problem. Here's this overpopulated piece of shit and it's the goddamn best planet out there.

I want to like this game /v/, I really do.

I'm nowhere near as anticipated for this game as I was 12 months ago. Honestly, I think I'll just buy it used.

>>113349528
Just like Mass Effect 2!

>Unlike so many universes, where Earth lies as a wasteland, in ME it’s a jewel in the galaxy.

So Bioware totally retconned the fact that in ME1 every other race talks smack to Shepard about how the humans fucked up earth?

>>113349754

But it's not, how did you get that idea?

>>113349589
casual bandwagon left Bioware, no more dick sucking

>2011.
>Not having this tune as Commander Shepard's main theme.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K69LkC82PEs

>>113349784
>Bioware
>Continuity

>>113349751
How is DA:O average? At all? I mean it doesn't even hold a candle to the greats but it has more RPG in it than anything we've got in the best 5 years.

Also, just because ME2 doesn't have a fuck load of stats to dump points into doesn't mean it isn't an RPG. The powers change gameplay enough to rectify it and you're still "role-playing". The only major flaw is the "Instead of streamlining the inventory let's just get it rid of completely" idea.

>>113349751

Yup, Bioware games are really only notable because of their characters to be honest. The game mechanics are average.

>>113349506
>You can actually unlock everything, not just mostly everything, exclusively through single player

No, that quote is from someone else's summary of what whey said. What they actually said was:

>Mass Effect 3 is a complete, standalone game that will deliver a satisfying story experience, even if you choose not to try multiplayer...You can reach the highest levels of success in the single player experience alone, but Galaxy at War gives you alternative ways to get there.

Note how vague that is? The only reassurance they give is "You can reach the highest levels of success in the single player", which I take to mean as "you can get the best ending in SP", not "you can unlock every weapon/quest/armor".

Now, why would they deliberately phrase it so vaguely? The only reason I can think of is because there's content that you can ONLY get by grinding MP or spamming Facebook, and they know outright saying that wouldn't go down well with fans.

Seriously /v/, you normally aren't so bad at falling for obvious marketing-speak.

>>113347610
>Oh, christ, I don't think I've ever lost all anticipation for a game so fast

Between this and Diablo 3, I know that feel.

>>113349784

Considering how all aliens have something against humans I wouldn't believe everything they say

>2011
>not proudly announcing to the world you sexed the Space Batman

>Earth is pretty idyllic in the Mass Effect universe. A couple of hundred years have seen the weather get a lot worse, but life for the well-off is super-fine. It’s not so great for the poor, although genetic disease is mostly eradicated, and pollution’s been dealt with.

Wait, what? When did this happen?

Throughout the entire series it's been hinted at that Earth is nothing less than a fucking ruinous dump. Aliens mock Shephard for it. I'm tired of bioware.

>>113349751
>DA:O - average as fuck with a boring ass story. Anyone saying that this game is anything above pure average never played an RPG in his life
Oh, come on! This is why we can't have nice things. It was a great throwback to classic RPGs and doesn't deserve all that retarded backlash that every Bioware game gets nowadays.

Bought the first two Mass Effects.

Not buying this one.

In fact I'm not going to be buying a Bioware game ever again at this rate.

>>113349912

>How is DA:O average?

not a single original thing in the entire game

every single idea about nations and races and lore has been taken from other universes and done poorly


> just because ME2 doesn't have a fuck load of stats to dump points into doesn't mean it isn't an RPG

to bad 90% of those powers are either ammo type (fuck yeah ammo is now a power) or are useless.

No feats no stats you can use pretty much any weapon you want. Anyone can hack anyone can pick locks anyone can defuse anything. Giving you a choice of classes in this game is needles cause everyone can do anything.

>>113350031
have you even played mass effect games ?

>>113349528

My God, the reapers have arrived and they're eating all the colour!

>>113350045
please refer to this:
>>113349589

It's easy to plot the decline of Bioware.

Bioware when Black Isle was still around: Decent to godlike

Bioware after Black Isle went under: Alright

Bioware after being bought out by EA: Total shit

>>113349926
What? Even if your interpretation is correct, saying that you can get the best ending in single player does not in any way imply that there exist weapons that you can only get through multiplayer.

You're just worried about multiplayer and looking for any possible problem they didn't explicitly rule out. Even if they did explicitly say you could get every weapon without doing multiplayer, you'd worry about multiplayer having exclusive missions, or squad mates, or skins or something.

At some point you just need to sit back and think if there's any actual evidence of multiplayer exclusives.

I was actually considering buying it, but now that I see this shit... it's like DA2 all over again. Also, fuck Origin.

>>113350045

> It was a great throwback to classic RPGs

only in terms of gameplay (and that was a slow ass clusterfuck to)


Honestly tell me what was so awesome about a story? You dont even have a proper enemy. The closest thing you have is that Loghain guy who spend 90% staying silent and drinking


And the deep roads and fade section of the game were so boring I had to force myself not to uninstall the game

>>113350102
>da:o is shit
>mass effect is shit

so which rpgs do you like ?

inb4 infinity engine garbage

>>113350240

>Infinity engine games
>Garbage

No.

>>113350115
No.

I post on /v/.

>>113350031
I only played ME2 demo in PS3 and I can smell your bullshit from miles.
Earth, in ME, is a paradise.
>>113349589
>implying that's not what I think
Sad but true, Bioware is falling.

>>113350284
>those nostalgia goggles sure are tight

>>113350240

Dont twist my words worm. I said DA:O was AVERAGE and that the original ME was good but could use some polish and that with making a proper sequel that would BUILD UP ON IT instead of removing stuff it would make a great RPG

I'm impressed.

I Bought Mass Effect and loved the game.
I bought Mass Effect 2 and hated the shit out of it.

This whole thing seems like a very good anti-piracy movement. I mean, at first I thought I will buy this game which I was sure was going to be a piece of shit anyway.

But the more I read, I get so fucking disgusted by this fucking horrid piece of inhumane shit, I don't even want this thing for free.

Well done BioWare. You have stopped me from pirating your games. You have defeated a pirate.

>>113350240
But pretty much all Infinity games are better than this shit. Icewind Dale has better story than DA:O and it was supposed to be a simple dungeon crawler.

>>113350102
First of all, you're implying that every RPG is completely original and doesn't take everything about their lore from D&D and LoTR. Second of all, the whole POINT of DA:O was to be a throwback to games like BG. Also, it was completely original in 2009, considering the fact the last game like it was Icewind Dale 2, which was released in what? 2002?

Lastly, that is all just bullshit. The classes are completely different in ME2, except for the hybrid classes, which makes sense after all, they're just the combo between two classes, kind of like dual-classing. No, believe it or not none of the powers are useless. Name one you didn't use at least ONCE. Okay now name a power you didn't use in ME1. Yeah see the difference? "90% of those powers are ammo types" Too bad the only class with more than one ammo type is the Soldier, and he has two.

Also,
>implying not everyone can pick locks or hack in ME1.

BOTH ME 1 and DAO were OK games with GREAT potential, instead of nurturing that potential they killed it and went for the cash grab call of duty audience and killed both franchises

If multiplayer is one never ending game of horde mode with geth/reaperspawn over a 2 km map i'll play it

battaling with bros until you run out of ammo, get overrun, respawn and try to take your position back

Who hated the main plot of ME2? Made no sense whatsoever when placed in a trilogy setting.

>>113350238
Proper enemy? How about the Arch Demon?

>>113350102
Not the original guy you replied to, but I agree with your stance on all the other Bioware games except DA:O. The combat was weak and the overall plot was fairly uninteresting and cliched but the dialogue and (most of) the characters were very well done, better than many RPGs recent or past.

>>113348663
>b) it makes pirates have to buy copies to get the full experience.
>Implying there won't be a mod within the release week to enable all the bullshit they locked us out of

>>113350383
>at first I thought I will buy this game which I was sure was going to be a piece of shit anyway.
meant pirate it.

>>113350174
>saying that you can get the best ending in single player does not in any way imply that there exist weapons that you can only get through multiplayer

Urrgh, are you seriously this naive? When a company responds to fears about X and Y by saying "don't worry, X is totally fine", you can bet your ass that Y is fucked, otherwise they would have mentioned it.

Bioware are responding to worries about MP/Facebook giving you unlockables you can't get in the SP by saying "don't worry, you can still get the best ending". Do you not see the loophole they've very carefully left for themselves? It's all but a confirmation there will be extra missions/armor/weapons/goodies you can only get with MP/Facebook shit.

>>113350472
I always hate when someone brings this up.

The Mass Effect games are about SHEPHARD, and HIS/HER story, not about the Reaper invasion.

>>113350477
You're kidding me, right?

Sounds cool.

You fags mad at additional content?

Guess v is a bunch of trolls who hate whatever is poplular at the moment.

>>113350629
How is he NOT a proper enemy? I know he isn't the most original one, but the main focus of the game is to stop him. Loghain was kind of a side story. All in all the highlight of DA:O, and every Bioware game, is the characters. Usually the story is very mediocre.

>>113347995
>>Don't buy it if what they're doing pisses you off.

i really love this "gamer" mentality, if the rest of the world would have done this 50 years ago we wouldnt have consumers rights now, i cannot wait until this fucking generation suffocates under the weight of their own bullshit.

>>113350425

>First of all, you're implying that every RPG is completely original

HELL NO dont twist my words. Read the whole sentence. It took everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) from other universes and implemented it POORLY. I have nothing against borrowing the good stuff.

>Name one you didn't use at least ONCE

I could go through the entire game with a pistol. That says much about the powers. And they are all pretty much the same shit.

Levitate - lift the dude in the air
Slam - lift the dude in the air and drop him
Throw - lift the dude in the air

and the "kinetic barrier" and "armor" bullshit are just extended HP bar. I can just shoot them all

>>113350710
It seems like you're the type of idiot who loves to eat up shit.

>>113350477

>Proper enemy? How about the Arch Demon?


OH YEAH HE WAS AWESOME LIKE HE GROWLED AND WE SEE HIM LIKE 2 TIMES AND LIKE THE THIRD TIME WE SEE HIM HE GROWLS AND LIKE WE FIGHT HIM AND THEN HE GROWLS AND THEN WE SPAM BALLISTA AT HIM AND THEN HE GROWLS AND DIES IN THE SAME WAY LIKE THAT DRAGON FALSE ANDRASTE DRAGON

Holy shit they even fucking recycled the fucking final boss. Holy shit I just realized that

Where's my Blasto at?

>>113350559

>Implying Shepard's story is worth anything
>implying it's interesting at all

Jesus, I'm not even sure I want to pirate this.

I probably will though.

>>113350738
To be fair, there's a reason why all the powers are pretty similar. Biotics aren't magic, they are just about manipulating gravity. I think it's to Bioware's credit that they worked what is effectively spell-casting into the game without resorting to psychic powers or space fantasy.

>Shepard, I have a mission for you. An alien threat is on us and we need you.. Is like this page on your facebook.

>>113350787
>implying i like ass effect...

Ishyddt.

1 was cool
2 was just watered down rpg with cod undertones
3 is a cod in space.

Fuck off casuals who are mad they cant get more content for free because they have no facebook because no freinds irl.

>>113350949

>To be fair, there's a reason why all the powers are pretty similar.

They made a fucking new universe bro they could make up any shit they wanted it's a video game. What's the point of giving you quazi spells if they are all the same?

Can't wait to see how Biware loses ME crowd.

>>113350738
Implented it poorly? If anything the universe of Mass Effect is very different from all the other sci-if universes, where the humans are actually the "scum" and the new-comers.

Also, you can go through the game using just a pistol. You also can do that in every shooter game ever. The game doesn't force to use one gun or the other, it all depends on your class.

And come corrections,
>Throw-Blast enemies away from you when you're taking to much fire, or throw them off a cliff.
>Slam-Pretty much an insta-death for smaller enemies, very powerful but only has one use.
>levititate-Make an ememy open to fire. Make an enemy stop firing. Make an ememy open for a Throw, which will knock him off the map.

Obviously you didn't use your powers correctly.

>>113350548
>Urrgh, are you seriously this naive? When a company responds to fears about X and Y by saying "don't worry, X is totally fine", you can bet your ass that Y is fucked, otherwise they would have mentioned it.

They were not asked about "exclusive weapons". That is merely you saying after the fact that the fears were about "exclusive weapons". If they had said that you could get all weapons in single player, you'd be crying that they didn't address exclusive squadmates that you could only get through multiplayer.

Here is what they actually said in the magazine article:

>If you’re one of those gamers that loves to complete every piece of a game, then you’re in luck. By doing enough in the singleplayer campaign, you will be able to earn enough War Assets, you won’t have to participate in the “galactic war”.

How do does that "leave open" a loophole? You're just ignoring the parts of their statement that address your fears and trying to twist every word.

>>113350949
Anyone with knowledge of physics is about to get mad at you, you do not just manipulate gravity how they do.
It's space magic and element zero is just a plot element that can do anything, like unobtainium.

>>113351033
Doubles makes my post true.

Fags.

You hate whats popular because your so edgy and cool.

So counter mainstream!

I'm mostly concerned about the prospect of letting every Mass Effect fan make their own "ORIGINAL CHARACTER DO NOT STEAL!". It was bad enough when they just had the regular characters to deal with.

>>113351110

>or throw them off a cliff.

that's situational as fuck you can barely use it

>Slam-Pretty much an insta-death for smaller enemies

so is 1 shot in the dead

>levititate-Make an ememy open to fire

again considering the cooldown it's barely worth using

>>113350862
Okay then. By your logic, Ganon in OoT is not a proper enemy. You only see him like 4 times, he barely talks, and the fight is recycled from every Zelda game ever, except now it's in 3D.

The last boss was completely different than the Andraste Dragon. I mean seriously how did you even make that connection? They're both dragons. The similarity stops there.

>>113348663
>it makes pirates have to buy copies to get the full experience.
No, the pirated version will probably have all that gimmicky facebook stuff already unlocked on it.

Pirated versions of games tend to have all the bonus stuff that even paying customers can't get all of.

>>113349666
>666
>http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112502-BioWare-Co-Founder-RPGs-Are-Becoming-Less-Relev
ant
These words. That number.

>>113351346

>Zelda game
>story

lol

>>113350444
This is why /v/ should not be allowed to design games.

>>113351346

>The last boss was completely different than the Andraste Dragon. I mean seriously how did you even make that connection? They're both dragons. The similarity stops there.

same model
same battle tactics (except that the final fight is actually easier because you get to use ballista)
same attacks
same death animation


you were saying?

>>113351265
>Doubles makes my post true

>>113351333
>implying every RPG doesn't have situational powers.
It's called being tactical

On the terms of levitate, I understand that because of the cooldown it is pretty underpowered, but it does help in some situations, like in small fights. Most of the time you should make your squadmate use it, then just pop a couple of shots and they're dead.

Also, you can use slam, squadmate use cryo, and squadmate 2 use throw, and then finish off the last two or three guys with bullets to end a fight quickly.

Again, it's all situational, just like every power is. Guns in ME1 are like the Magic Missiles or Shadow Bolt of the game.

>>113351649

>It's called being tactical

I wasn't saying that bro. It's just that amount of time you can actually make that combo and use it is so small that you can pretty much ignore it

>Series with laughable decision making, ancient evil awakens plot, write themselves to a terrible in the first game, Gears of War with shields

Mass Effect was always shit

No.

No, stop this shit, Bioware, don't fuck this up.

ME was good, ME2 might have been worse but I enjoyed it, please dont fuck this up.

Just...just think of your fans from ME. Don't do another DA2, I beg you on my fucking knees, don't fuck over your fans like this.

I'm losing hope fast /v/, help.

>>113351633
Its true for you. Congrsts bro.

But im hungry for myself.

>>113351506
The model was completely different what the fuck are you talking about. Other than the death animation, I see no similarities. Maybe he was easier, doesn't mean he wasn't a proper enemy,

Wait I was supposed to look forward to this game?
ME1 was pretty good but with ME2 they went the exact opposite direction they should. DA:O was mediocre as fuck and DA2 is the worst shit I played in years.

Food = Mass Effect 3
Salad = Multiplayer

facebook? aww shit they gonna upload pics of me jacking off too tali and fem shepard

>>113351702
And you can pretty uch ignore the grease/fire combo in DA:O. It's all up to the player and his decisions. If you don't level up your Throw and Levitate, don't expect it to have a low cooldown and be powerful.

What is this facebook shit you are talking about? Even though ME3 uses origin this is not BF3.

>>113351797

>The model was completely different what the fuck are you talking about.

learn the difference between a SKIN and a MODEL

they used the same model for both bosses

>>113351810
your analogy is wrong

Large stake = 60 dollars
Medium stake + salad = 60 dollars

you are getting less meat for the same price

>>113351916
It's a dragon. Why would they make another model if they already have a dragon model and they can just re-skin it and make it look completely different?

Let's see what the Bioware forums are up to!

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect-3/Mass-Effect-3-General-Discussion/Re-programming-Legion
-An-excellent-idea-for-Mass-Effect-3-8500463-1.html


>How about being able to re-prgram Legion by recruiting a tech expert? Like having Legion do certain things based on how he's been >programmed. The conversation with the tech specialist would go something like this:

>Shepard: "Hey there Techy! (A pretty fitting name, if you ask me, which I'm sure you do.) Could you perhaps re-program the Geth >guy we just recruited on our last mission? His name is Legion."
>Techy: "Right! Of course mam/sir. What would you like me to do?"
>Shepard: "Uuuuhm, I don't know.."
>Techy: "Let me help you, buddy."
>*menu pop-up*
>On this screen you will be able to pick between the following different programs for Legion:

>Soldier: Shooting things and helping Shepard in battle.
>Entertainer: Entertaining the crew on the Normandy with jokes and funny magic tricks.
>Normandy Crew: Doing practical stuff aboard the Normandy.

Mother of god.

>>113351892

>And you can pretty uch ignore the grease/fire combo in DA:O

funny you should mention it but yeah pretty much

I mean they put a great AOE combo....and then make it so that it does more damage to your allies to make it worth it at all. It's just stupid.

And WHILE I can ignore it I can also use it pretty much anywhere I want. It's not confined to a specific place (knock over a cliff and shit) I can use it in a corridor in a room on a bridge in a forest anywhere I want

>>113352000
But the SP of ME3 is finished, the game was delayed so they can work on MP. So his analogy is correct.

>>113352000
Except the fact that they have a separate team to work on the multiplayer, so it has no impact on the single-player dev resources.

>>113352000
Or maybe it's exactly right and you're meant to think about it for a moment.

>>113351506
You are full of shit.

They have different models:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/146/highdragonsitting02sm.jpg/
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonage/images/d/d9/Archdemon11.jpg
The archdemon you fight in multiple different places while also dealing with dark spawn minions that already exist on the field or are summoned by the archdemon. The high dragon is a tank and spank in an open field.
The special abilities are different: archdemon has all the high dragon' special abiltiies (massive attack, cleave, sweep, etc except fire breath) and in addition also has corruption blast, spirit smite, vortex, can summon darkspawn reinforcements. and detonate them with darkspawn detonation.

>>113352053
Right, it's all up to you as the player. Every power has it's ups and downs, and you have to decide if it's worth actually using it.

Too bad DA2 threw that shit out the window.

Don't worry, if you anticipated me3 at all then you'll probably be hyped for more shitty shooters.
Hey, how about that oblivion 2, eh? Sure does look AWESOME, right?

>>113352024

>It's a dragon. Why would they make another model if they already have a dragon model and they can just re-skin it and make it look completely different?


there are like 2 dragon bosses in the game. One is a dragon and the other one IS A MAIN ENEMY THAT WE HEAR ABOUT THROUGH OUT THE ENTIRE GAME.

If the main villain in the game doesn't deserve a unique model then I don't know what does.

By adding MP they removed some content from SP. This is how it works.
Fuck modern "gaming" and cawadooty kids.

>>113352070
>the game was delayed so they can work on MP

-sir your meat is ready but the salad is going to take another hour to prepare
-but i dont want salad...

Hey, guys.

What would be the best class or whatever, that gives you the best selection of weapons *and* powers in ME2? I was playing as a soldier but it's getting boring as fuck, and also the game forced me to fucking go to the reaper space before I could finish all loyalty quests if I wanted to look like I gave two shits about my crew, planning on starting over mid-game.

>>113352130
You have to remember that ME3's SP is finished already and the Multiplayer was an after-thought. So the picture is correct.

>>113352199

just play a soldier

it's a 3rd person shooter anyways

>>113352140
Please refer to
>>113352178
Turns out I was right in the first place. Please go fuck yourself with a rake.

>>113352194
He was talking from his arse, ofc the SP is not ready. They are not gonna postpone the game for an half year for MP.

>>113352112
>Except the fact that they have a separate team to work on the multiplayer, so it has no impact on the single-player dev resources.

Uhh, wasn't the ME team split up into Bioware Edmonton and Bioware Montreal so one team would work on singleplayer and the other multiplayer?

I mean, I guess it's true that it's a separate team working on the multiplayer, but it seems to me that if they hadn't done that, the people who make up that team would be working on the singleplayer, right?

>>113352194
But when you get your meal, you don't have to eat the salad.

>it's been confirmed that you can ignore all of this and just play the singleplayer campaign and not be worse off
>people still bitching

It's all optional. If you don't want to do any of it, DON'T, it wont affect your or your campaign if you don't.

biohaters are actually bioware competitors.

>>113352311
The are two teams but they both have the same supervisor/leader.

>>113352342
But then what will we bitch about?

>>113350336
Earthborn: You were an orphan raised on the streets of the great megatropolises covering Earth. You escaped the life of petty crime and underworld gangs by enlisting with the Alliance military when you turned eighteen.

* Earthborn characters gain a large bonus to Renegade points received, allowing them to max out their Renegade bar faster.

HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SURE IS IDYLLIC UTOPIA WORLD

>>113352324
are you fucking retarded? i have to wait for a salad i dont want and you say its a good thing?

Cool, now both SP and MP will be shit.

>>113352290
No the SP is ready. The game was supposed to be out this year but it was delayed to work on MP.

>>113352112
>>113352070
Have you fucktards ever heard of disc space?

This is a multiplat game. They have to keep the content so it fits the xbox/PS3 disc. They can't add more than that.

>>113352166
Press a button and something awesome happens.

Anyway, I remember people whining quite a bit about DA:O when it was released as well, sure it was mostly bitching about GAY DWARF SEX and the Relationship Values, But the reaction wasn't as stellar as >>113349589 makes out.

>>113352264

well yeah, but I'm finding the shotgun and pistol pretty useless when I have my rifle and sniper, and the soldier powers are booooring. :<

>>113349926
But you don't unlock weapons and mods by plaything multiplayer.

>>113352392
I never said it was a good thing. I said you don't have to eat it. You can take a couple of bites and if you don't like it, you can eat your steak.

Origin alone is enough reason to never buy or play this game

>>113352422
>implying there won't be 2-3 disc on 360

>>113352500
>implying you need origin to pirate

>>113352280
Please refer to
>>113352140
Turns out you are still full of shit. Aside from the obvious differences that are probably from textures such as the mottled and bloodied skin or obvious veins of the archdemon, the archdemon has much larger and oddly placed front teeth compared to the high dragon. And look at the spines on the back of the high dragon that are missing from the archdemon. In addition the archdemon has 3 claws on the top of his wings while the high dragon has 1. These are not texture differences but different models.

Also nice job ignoring how the archdemon has half a dozen special abilties the high dragon does not. And the dozens of darkspawn you have to fight simultaneous to the archdemon who keeps moving to different locations.

>>113352070
How do you know the single player is finished?

Also given the last title had issues due to a lack of polish, and the MP isn't being done by the regular ME team that means more work can be put into the SP.

That is a good thing.

>>113352429
When i said that i was just putting it simply. Of course not everyone on /v/ liked ME1/2 or DA:O, but the vast majority enjoyed both of them.

>>113352418
They never said whats the reason for the delay, it cant be the multiplayer alone because its look overly simple and short.

Also, the singleplayer can never be ready before the multiplayer is, because they need to work together and multi effects SP.

Checkmate.

DUDES! If you knew shit you would of smelled this shit coming from a mile away when Bioware spread it's shitty asshole and screamed, "FUCK ME EA! MAKE ME YOUR BITCH!" And took EA's shitty dick up their ass! SHIT! Expect the worst case scenario from Bioware from now til doomsday.

>>113347610
>fear the reaper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFKylgGk73I

>>113350383
>I Bought Mass Effect and loved the game.
>I bought Mass Effect 2 and hated the shit out of it.

I agree with all of this post. Except that I buy games and don't pirate, because I have a job.

>>113352589
Mixed up the quotes, I was actually agreeing with you.

>>113352383
Even if Earth is a paradise, there are still americans who ruin it

>>113352342
>it wont affect your or your campaign if you don't

So you're just gonna go with denial, then?

1) they haven't ruled out withholding stuff from Single player only games.

2) they took a bunch of people off the SP team at Bioware Edmonton to form Bioware Montreal to make the MP.

3) that facebook shit sounds just fucking awful.

Biodrone status = told.

Ive hated co-op multiplayer ever since my best friend kept grabbing all the pizza when he was at full health in TMNT.

>>113352628
can not take you seriously because you do not know that it is "could have" or "could've"

>>113352620
You're right, it isn't the MP alone. It's also all the FB shit and iOS crap. They also need to change (not re-do) the SP because of the MP.

In other words, the SP was ready but now they have to tweak because of the MP.

>>113352628
>How many curse words can I fit in a couple sentences
Yes, yes, we get it. You are clearly more intelligent than the rest of us and Bioware is really bad corp. Thank you internet tough guy.

>>113352743
They took people off the SP team and on the MP team because for the most part the SP was finished.

Again, the only thing you'll miss out in SP if you don't play the co-op, is a few guns.

Seriously, source to the Facebook shit. Now.

>They blatantly state that you can STILL get the best ending by playing the SP game, just that doing the MP game makes things easier
>People still bitch and swear they're cancelling their pre-orders
No, you're not. Stop that shit right now

>facebook
that's what happen when millions of faggots feel the need to stroke their e-peen.
inb4 hurr you has no friend cuz u no has facebook.

>>113352743
>>1) they haven't ruled out withholding stuff from Single player only games.

The actual bioware statement was:
>>>If you’re one of those gamers that loves to complete every piece of a game, then you’re in luck. By doing enough in the singleplayer campaign, you will be able to earn enough War Assets, you won’t have to participate in the “galactic war”.

They explicitly say you can get the multiplayer reward from single player in large enough quantity to make you not need to play multiplayer. You're the one who's in denial if you're going to ignore what was said because you don't like it.

>>113352478
no, i will just pirate the steak and you can stick your salad in your anus, faggot

>>113352743
>But you're not here really to argue about the issue, are you?
Not him, but that seems to be your plan.

>it will ruin single player!
No it won't
>IT WILL, THEY ARE, LALAL

>>113352794
>playing "co-op" contra with my brother.
>he kills me by going to fast
>Oh its on now motherfucker

every time

No one is glad that its coop instead of deathmatch? I wonder why people ignore every good decision that Bioware makes, this is some kind of trend that started after DA2.

>>113352898
>missing a few guns

Thats not too bad, RPG games usually have tons of weapons to choose from anyway. Oh wait, no. ME2 had a tiny handful of guns, unless you downloaded all of the DLC.

>>113352988
Read OP's article. There is no source, it's just a guess on the author's part.

>AUTHOR:And it seems the links are even more complex than first thought. It’s not just the multiplayer that will effect your single-player game, but apparently all the other space junk that’s released alongside the game – presumably Facebook, iOS, and the like. That’s what I’m interpreting from this passage in the game’s press release:

>BIOWARE: “With the Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War system, players will fight for the survival of the galaxy against an ancient alien race known only as, Reapers, in both the single player campaign and through a suite of Mass Effect games and applications. Progress made in each of the components of the system, including the new multiplayer mode, will directly link back to the player’s main campaign, helping Commander Shepard rally the forces of the galaxy to eliminate the Reaper threat once and for all.”

Does anyone actually think that enough people won't buy their game for them to notice a decrease in estimated profits? There are not enough angsty man-children out there for that to happen.

>>113350031
>Aliens
>Mocking Earth
Uhhhh, no. Did you visit Earth in ME1 and check the description.

It's VERY idyllic.

When was it EVER hinted at that Earth was a wasteland?

>>113353013
You're just mad because i proved your ass wrong.

>>113352743

It's not denial, this was literally one of the FIRST THING they announced.

You can get everything in the single player campaign and not even touch any of the other shit.

Oops, >>113353113
was supposed to be directed at
>>113352913

>>113353124
Cowadooty players will buy it because we cover shooter now.

>>113347610

This is very disappointing news...

>>113353084
Too bad in ME3 you can completely customize your gun, making it different than everyone else's.

So one SMG can turn into a Hundred different ones.

>>113353133
uh tell that to a earthborn shepard

>>113353133
Slums of earth are the kind of lving standards we have today. but a lot more crowded

>>113353124
Yeah, there are enough dumb casual man-children for them to succeed with this.
This is why DA2 flopped, no MP bro.

>>113353133
>When was it EVER hinted at that Earth was a wasteland?
Um, Earthborn Shepard?

One of the most promising original IPs I have played in my adult life has turned to complete shit.

HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?

They could have improved on the first game and made ME2 talked about for years, in the same reverent tones as Fallout 2. Stupid fuckers.

>>113353149
>You can get everything in the single player campaign and not even touch any of the other shit.

See

>>113349926

They never actually said that, they said you can still get the best ending. That doesn't mean you won't have to do all this other bullshit to unlock quests or weapons or whatever.

>>113353327
DA2 earned a profit.

I'm doing a shoop about this

>>113353270
>implying there won't simply be an obvious best build that everyone will use

>>113353335

So what? We have slums today too, doesn't mean that the entire world is a wasteland

>>113353335
the funny thing is
bioware cannot into writing a story that is coherent or that has continuity
so you're both right bioware just fucked up

>>113350559
This argument would make sense, if Shepard was Charles Foster Kane or something, and not some bland idiot who does nothing, has no personality and in general completely uninteresting.

It's like making a game based around the lifestory of a dude from Sims

>>113353355
only thanks to blind fans and bought reviewers

>>113353337
>ME2 talked about for years, in the same reverent tones as Fallout 2
Did uh... did you just compare ME2 to Fallout 2? Oh boy.

>>113353351
see
>>113352999
They said both:
>>If you’re one of those gamers that loves to complete every piece of a game, then you’re in luck. By doing enough in the singleplayer campaign, you will be able to earn enough War Assets, you won’t have to participate in the “galactic war”.

They said you can get everything in single player.

>>113353445
>It's like making a game based around the lifestory of a dude from Sims

It's closer to being the Sims in space than anything else, really.

>>113353133

That director Anoleas or something, Salarian on Noveria, the executive. He implied implications that Earth was a polluted mess, especially when compared to his homeworld. On the ME1 desciption page of Earth, I believe it says Earth is still recovering from damage to its ecosystem which it sustained during the 20th and 21th century.

>>113353435
And yet apparently Earth is the jewel of the Galaxy, despite half of it being slums that have barely progressed past the 21st century

>>113353337
Think about it.
>Add things that Mass Effect fans like = only people who like ME would buy it = the sales would stay the same.
>Streamline the game and add features that other popular games have (like multi and more fluid combat) = the game will get more audience from all kinds of players = game will sell better then the previous parts.
This is not rocket science, game companies do not make games for people to enjoy, by the end of the day, they just want money.

If even the slightest bit of what OP is saying is true I'm not buying it, and I am a huuuge Mass Effect fan.