>A guy with a stick and a balrog Fall in the abyss

Guess who comes out

>hours of preparation and years of study for one spell
>stab a guy
>he's dead anyway
Fucking pussies in their girly dresses.

>stick-wielding faggots think they got skills

Melee master race reporting in

>mfw rangefags and magefags think they're doing anything

>Implying Gandalf doesn't use a friggin elven sword.

Let's do this shit.

GOD TIER:
Mages
GOOD TIER:
Rogues(including archers)
SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING TIER:
Warriors

>Implying you'd even make it through a campaign without me healing your clumsy asses every twelve seconds.

>>113345866
Master tier: Spellbow/stalker

Kensai / Mage here , quit being mad phaggots.

I play "Magekiller" classes in every roleplaying game.

>not playing clerics or other healing classes

that's okay and I respect your decision :3

Your spells mean nothing to me, foul knave. I will end your life with a single swing of my sword.

>squishy pussy ass bitch mage keeps getting analfucked by mobs
>have to get aggro drawing items to keep them off his dick
>mfw when i tank these mobs like nothing
pfft please mages

>mfw a mage tries to cast a spell after I crush his puny human windpipe

>>113346315
>cast slow
THE FUCK YOU GONNA DO NOW FAGGOT
THE FUCK
YOU GONNA
DO

>>113345945

GOD-TIER:
Clerics, Fighters

GOOD-TIER:
Rogue, Ranger, Barbarian

OK-Tier:
Paladin, Mage

OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU DOING TIER
Druids

Warpriest master race

>keep trying to play Mages in MMOs/RPGs to see if I will like them
>I do, but there's just something weird about casting spells repetivily
>Eventually give up and go back to being a ranged fag.

I want to like Mages, I really do. I wanna heal or some shit like that.
But ugh. Something about it just grinds my gears.

>Year of The Fire Elemental
>not becoming a Spell Sword

lol dumbshits cannot into multiple skills

Excuse me while I cut you in half and cremate you with my index finger. Then take that young maiden who swore her virginity to you.

>>113346373
>that feel when you throw your boomerang shield at mages, while they are trying to cast a spell
>they die from one hit

THAT FEEL

>>113346528
This.
Spellsword/Thiefmage is absolute God-tier.

Gandalf was a great swordsman aswell. He only looked old, he could still move like a man in his prime

>>113345311
>swinging around a stick like some goddamn ape
>thinks he's useful

Isn't that what you do to cast your spells, fairy boy?

I'll be punching Orks while you finish your little dance routine. It'd sure suck if you actuslly had to get involved in a fight and ruin your nails.

>>113346673
>punching orks

mah niggah

>implying battle cleric isn't the best.

ITT: Heretics
Enjoy your sinful witchcraft and mindless bloodshed fags. You're about to get divine judgment.

BATTLEMAGE=MASTERRACE

Templars, Spellswords and motherfucking SPIRITUAL MONKS

YOU WAN HIT ME WITH MAGIC

TOO BAD
U DED

U WAN FIGHT WAN ON WAN
U ARREDY DED

U WAN FIGHT MANO MANO?
I PUNCH YOU WITHOU MY FISTU
HORAHORAHORAHORAHORA

>>113346822
>implying you aren't just some hired sword for a wretched monarch

Don't you have some famers to push around?

>>113346754
I learned from only the best.

>>113346469

>hating on Druids

you just mad cause we got shit more powerful than your entire class.

>>113346822
All I know is that magic vs. clerics is getting really boring.

There are plenty of deities who do not frown upon magic.

Also why does not matter alteration count as healing when playing a wizard?
Boom. I just altered matter in that guy's leg into a working condition healthy leg.
Why doesn't he gain his hitpoints back?
This is bullshit.

>Implying I even need to be on the front lines
>Implying I didn't just slay your general/king while the everyone else dicks around on the battlefield
>Implying I'm not already back at basecamp fucking a captured maiden right now.

>>113346984

your class is ain't druid. your class is homosexual virgin.

>>113346822
>THIS IS AN UNSANCTIONED USE OF MAGICAL ENERGY!

mfw I 1shot your whole party

>spend my time honing my skills
>preparing my body
>building my strength
>taking my dexterity to the limits
>making sure my edurance is beyond that of mere mortals

Some faggot Mage tries to nuke me

>I shrug it off because i've got vitality LIKE A BOSS
>hit the faggot once he dies

>mfw some loser mage thinks he's the 2nd coming of Zeus near me

>>113346528
>implying that dividing your training hasn't left your magic skills woefully lacking
>implying I'm not going to negate your pitiful ember with a flick of my wrist
>implying I haven't already summoned twenty meteors to destroy you, your home country, and that one girl who moved away when you were young but you've always kind of had a thing for even though you haven't seen her in ten years

>Every MMO
>Mages act all tough
>Melee the fuck out of them
>They run away to get help
>nope.avi
>Taunt gesture/emote over their corpse

BOWFAG MASTERRACE REPORTING IN

Do you think you can outsmart a FUCKING arrow, magefags? You don't even have the proper evasion to avoid one from a distance, let alone to ender more than one hit.

Honor to warriorfags who fall under our rain of arrows, or heroicly endure the pain and put up an epic fight in which we will propably succumb.

ah wunna be a druuugggon

>>113346994
The ability to move stuff around does not make you a surgeon. If you gave some random shmuck a scalpel he wouldn't be able to fix a leg with it. Maybe if your wizard took ranks in medicine it should work.

>>113346994

That's okay, you keep turning into a cat, I'll be over here with my spontaneous healing and monster buffs as well as being a better front line fighter than you can ever hope to be.

>>113346984
Healing is necromancy. Reviving dead flesh or something like that. You can argue that ANY magic is alteration, which is why it's a retarded school of magic in the first place.

Hey look, there's some air. I altered it into a dinosaur. Alteration.

>>113347029
only AI falls for stealth, any human player, mage or fighter smashes your face in the moment you're detected.

>>113345311

>>113347150
>that last part

Fuck you.

>implying I don't practice OmniMagic
>implying I wont reflect your stones right back on your head just by thinking about it

>Melee derper over in the corner hitting some shitty Warlock
>Freeze the shit out of him
>His tiny Ape brain makes him walk over to me Axes blazing
>Keep flinging ice spells at him whilst I laugh like the god I am

>>113347154
more like i nuke every weakling of your party from range and save you for last. enjoy wathcing hte death animations of your comrades

Monks and Rogues are the bro-est, Clerics too if they aren't entitled pricks.

"You should be thanking me all the time or else I stop healing" Get over it you little niglet, you should be thanking your pals for keeping your sorry ass alive.

>at the magus academy
>go to magicstop to pick up some powdered newt
>there is a maiden behind the counter
>try to cast aura of charisma
>fuck up, robe catches fire
>try to cast cone of water
>spaghetti demon is summoned in it's place
>it pins the maiden to the wall and starts to violate her
>head magus blinks in
>dispels the beast
>suspended from the magus plaza for a week

FUCKING MAGICSTOP

>>113347284
Techincally healing is Divination

>>113347418

Does it look like I need your help, heathen? There's a reason you can run a party of 4 clerics and complete any campaign with no issue

>Swashbuckler
>No penalties for uneven terrain / unsteady footing
>Throw knives and fight one on one like a champ
>Do all kinds of athletic shit

All other meeleefags are cunts

>>113347284

Go look in any PHB from any edition, it's necromancy.

Where the fuck does Divination come into healing magic? You could argue almost anything but divination...

>>113347528
Battle Clerisc, yeah. You guys are cool. But the little jack-off who just sits there heal botting can fuck right off.

>Timestop
>Various Necromancy spells
>Timestop ends
>Whole party is dead - Reload time.

>at a summoning ceremony
>see a hot succubus
>popular barbarian sees me eying her
>loudly declares that the "mage" is trying to "get it in"
>pushes us together
>she starts grinding on me while I stand there, limp
>everyone is laughing
>she tells me to get into it
>stutter out, "B-back that ass up."
>my charisma roll fails and the laughter pierces my soul

>>113347633

I misunderstood. Carry on.

>>113347448
>go to magic academy
>realize I am a warrior
>they all laugh at me
>I stutter: "b-back that magic up"

FUCKING MAGICSTOP

>>113347608
Nope, it's Conjuration in 3.5.

Stupid, I agree, but it is.

>>113347658
No problem. I think a good blend of magic and sword fighting is what is best.

Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

>>113347580

>take hits from Swashbuckler because he's like a single punch against a steel wall
>mostly miss my own strikes
>statistics eventually lets me hit him
>he dies first time because he has no guts backing him up

>necromancers thinking they are badass

Go back to listening to your My Alchemical Romance and Lichen Park you underage faggots.

>>113347730

>implying you're not tripped after the third sword strike

Sorry, what was that Mage?

Couldn't hear you over the sounds of my knife going into your spine.

>Rogue / Thief / Assassin master race.

>>113346492
Magic just doesn't seem like something you should be able spam repetitively. It's meant to seem, you know, magical.

Keep it to utility spells, highly context specific spells, and have fireballs and shit once a day casts so you have to save them for tough fights. Just let mages use shortswords or something in the interim. Fucking uncreative devs.

>>113347675

Holy fuck you're right. I'll be back after I reaffirm my belief in Cuthbert

>not keeping your alchemical substances in an orb of cold
>1476 of the second age

>implying Gandalf doesn't hit people with his stick really hard so they die

>mfw melee combat is greatly overpowered in games with fantasy elements to make it more balanced, whereas in real life wizards would be the hardest class to train, but the most powerful

>>113347495
It's necromancy but the old men in the chappel like to have their healing around to make their lifespans longer while they are controlling the masses with distractions like "war on necromancy".
Fucking hypocrites. It is just like how they name the galivan cooked radishes into FREEDOM radishes, doesn't change anything. It's still necromancy, just with a greedy bureaucratic trick.

>>113347848
It should also be ritual and potion based as well.

Spiked Chain master here

Come at me, scrubs

>>113347807
Improved Disarm master race (Swashie) here

A mage? Bullshit, Gandalf was a fucking fraud. What spells did he cast? Fucking waving his wand around like some kind of animal. And then duel-wielding with a sword and his stick? Fuck that useless faggot.

>He can't shapeshift into various ferocious animals!

>>113347948

FUCKING COCKSUCKER GET THE FUCK OUT I SWEAR SPIKED CHAIN SHOULD BE BANNED

>half mages boasting about their melee and casting abilities

listen faggots, your gimmicky spells may impress the herbologist's teenage daughter, but you're severely deluded if you think you could go toe to toe with a master of the arcane

>>113347912
>wizards
>real life

This is what autistic permavirgins actually worry about.

>>113347912
You clearly havent played BG2

>>113348036
Gandalf TWFed a two-handed weapon of his size (Medium Quarterstaff); he MAKES THE GODDAMN RULES.

>be a mage
>filthy barbarian attacks me
>gets a blow past my spells
>goes right thought me
>it's just an illusion and I am more than a weeks travel away
>hit him in the face with a magic missle

melee-only are scrubs

>>113348060
>Implying I can't freeze you in place then then turn your shit inside out with my mind

Don't even fuck with it.

>>113348078
>yfw when i'm not a virgin

>>113347807

>implying i'm some fucking idiot who didn't put any points into Dexterity
>implying you can trip me

>>113347948
>>113347948

>That feel when Plane Shift to the 9 Abysses

Darn, if only you had some MIRACLES from a DIVINE PATRON

>>113348143
>Lying on the internet

requesting that one quiz on the internet that tells you your RPG class. it had something do with a saving a town from a dragon

>go to the arena alone
>tell the ticket salesman I want to see the morning fight
>he tells me to speak up, he can't hear me
>I start sweating, and mumble that I want to see the morning fight
>he says he'll go get the overseer
>everyone is looking at me now
>try to tell him to come back but he's already gone
>group of female barbarians nearby are snickering and whispering to each other
>start walking away
>the overseer comes out and yells I left my coins
>barbarians are openly laughing now
>I try to run out the door but my magic cape gets caught
>potions fall out of my pocket
>overseer barely conceals laughter as he catches up and gives me my money back
>I come back later and burn the place down with a fireball

>>113347912
>real life
>wizards
Pick 1

>>113348245

>implying your dexterity can be at a decent level if you put all your points into STR and END like your first post said

>Wizard of Thay, Illusionist
>Stack up on feats lowering your DC/Improving my Illusionist CL
>Watching melee fags with poor saves screaming in fear before they die of my Phantasmal Killer

Huscarl bro reporting in, using dat two handed axe, and then switching to my sword and shield when I'm dealing with archers, Oh you say there's a mage trying to fuck my shit? throwing axes, bitch.

>>113348298
>making assumptions on the internet

>>113345945
>Implying I can't Limited Wish myself cleric spells if I really need to

>>113348348

>implying i put any points into CHA
>implying i don't have high STR and END and pretty good DEX

i'm a mercenary. i don't need Charisma, i let my results speak for themselves.

Good thing i love video games

>>113348348
Exactly

A smart Fighter stacks STR/CON and leave DEX at 12 cos they have Full Plate anyway. However, doesnt Trip use the highest value out of STR/DEX? Think so atleast, 3.5e (master race) fag here

>>113348419
>implying it was an assumption
>implying it isn't a proven fact

>>113348325
I said "would be", not "are"

>>113347948
Keen vorpal whip-sword + critical hit build masterrace here.
15ft reach and 48 heads/sec says hi.

>>113348547

Could be, but I'm pretty sure there's a feat that makes you able to pick the stat opponent uses for defending against trip

>>113348400

>playing Illusionist
>2011

Never got why the most easily countered mage variant in existence is simultaneously the most popular.

>>113348554
Now you're just talking shit.

>>Psion>every one else

Don't mind me guys, just altering reality and fucking shit up with barely a passing thought.

God tier:
Paladins
Combat Clerics

Bro tier:
Guardsmen
Warriors
Supportive cloth spellcasters

Ok tier:
Barbarians
Rangers

Edgy kid tier:
Rogues
Thieves

Pussy tier:
All offensive cloth spellcasters

>>113348569

>implying the spiked chain isn't vorpal

>Realize I am in awful need of new tomes
>Go to the 7th Dimension Tomestop
>Peruse some Tomes of Knowledge
>A Sorceress working on this store sneaks behind me
>She places her hand on my shoulder and asks if I want to pre-order the Tome of Succubus Summoning
>She desires to copulate
>Turn around and cast the Bedazzlement Hex on her
>It fizzles
>I command her to turn her rear upwards
>Her laughter pierces my soul
>Parchment falls off my robes
>Realize the Sorceress is actually a Beholder
>Burst into spellgems
>Make hasty egress from that accursed store

BLASTED TOMESTOP

>>113348641

No self respecting dungeon master allows psionics except under extremely controlled nerfed circumstances

Fuck, I remember in 1.0 ADnD where a single psionic was literally stronger than an entire party.

>equip tower shield
>enchant it with magic resistance
>enchant armor
>equip lance
>mfw wizards can shoot all fireballs they want at me while I slowly move towards them.

>OP posts an image of one of the few wizards who uses a sword
>Complains about people who fight with swords

>>113348626
Who... who is that if i may ask?

>>113348703
>piercing
>vorpal

>>113348617
>Implying that besides Abjuration (which has no offensive abilities) Illision isnt the best defensive school.

Granted I have few offensive spells, but as I said, being a Red Wizard with proper feats, that Fort and Will save you'll have to make will be pretty hard.

>wear full plate
>wield a mighty warhammer
>heal the wounded
>revive the dead
>obliterate the undead
>summon elementals and bend them to my will
>summon demons and angels and make them do my bidding

CLERIC MASTER RACE REPORTING IN

>>113348676

>>113348815

>piercing
>implying spiked chain isn't slashing

>>113347173
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/protectionFromArrows.htm

Three types of melee fighters,
>Heavy Armour/ plate wearing
Typically uses a 2hander/ sword and shield, very thick Armour only the hardest of blows will get through
>Medium Chain mail/ thin metal chestpieces and greaves
Typically uses a 2 handed axe, perhaps a halbred or anyother Polearm or spear, And occasionally you will see one with a longsword and a shield.
>Light Usually rolls with leather/ chainmail mix optimized for speed and dexterity
Usually uses a shortsword, some throwing weapons or maybe even a bow of some sort. These are basically your Skirmishers, flankers troops ment to go in fast strike hard, then retreat and do it again.

>>113348754
I-didnt-even-buy-the-Psionics-Handbook master race here

>>113348844
>spikes
>slashing

>>113348810
Master race.

>>113348626
>Posting reaction images of slutty Asian women who smoke

>>113348915

By your logic a sword is piercing because it has a point with which you can pierce something.

You whip the spiked chain at someone, slashing him.

>>113348858
>mfw you're fucking retarded and have no idea how fighters work

>>113348825

My nigga.

Sure is deluded monkey in here. What's that, you can't enchant your own gear? Can't open a steel door? Can't do shit without the gear someone else made you? Can't think of anything to do but adventure? Can't even find an adventure without someone holding your hand? Can't heal a broken finger? You're just a walking charity case who can't do anything but rely on others, aren't you?

>>113348925
>implying your kind aren't the sluttiest of all races
>implying yours don't smoke weed all day

>>113349059
Retarded as in how. You don't say my logical fallacies so that I may learn. You just call me a retard.

>>113348973
Sword has a cutting edge to it in addition to piercing point.

Spikes are spikes, piercing point, no cutting edge.

Maybe you are thinking of razor whip?

>>113348825

I'll be right here, just doing some actual job while you elitists fucks are playing heroes and doing your sorcery tricks.

>>113349178

>Maybe you are thinking of razor whip?

Could be, but I don't see much difference between a razor whip and a spiked chain.

>>113349279
Damage type.

>2011
>Still doesn't use a proper rifle
>Can't fire three rounds a minute in any weather

I sincerely would welcome the notion that any of you gentlemen didn't persist on this most extraordinary behaviour in this day and age.

>>113349349

I mean in the actual weapon design / look

ATTENTION, INTELLIGENT OPINIONS FOLLOWS THIS MESSAGE!

god tier:
sword and board
good tier:
supporting spell caster
shit tier:
none of the above

Summoner/necromancer god-tier here. Enjoy being almost dead by time you grind through my minions, at which point I can lesuirely eat your soul.

>>113349177

>Heavy armor/twohands
No argument. You'll see a lot of these. Is it optimal? Hell no, but niggers gonna nig.
>Medium armor
Only time someone wears medium armor is if they can't afford heavy or if they're not proficient with it (Rangers, barbarians, some cleric variants)

>Light armor=sword and shield

This is where you went full-retard. Unless you're talking something like a bard rolling around with stud leather and a buckler, you won't see shields on light armor classes. Rogues tend to dual wield, mages shouldn't be using shields (because it fucks with their spellcasting obviously)

Real men go heavy armor+1h+kite shield. Optimal balance of defense+offense while sacrificing some small amount of mobility

>>113349376
Other one has spikes.
Other one has razor blades.

>>113349448

Realize I didn't expand on 2h

If someone is going to use 2h, that means they're focusing on damaging rather than disabling the enemy, which means they need to be more mobile than heavy armor will allow. This is a case where medium armor might be used (Unless it's a dwarf, then they can use heavy armor all they want)

>>113349448
You do know that Heavy armour costs so much that common people {the main force of the army} will be rolling light armour or medium armour. also
>rouges dual wielding
Completely impractical. Would be clumsy would not work with regular Peasants and general common folk. Only a master of blades would be able to use them with actual skill. I would understand if you said Assasins but that's just retarded.

>mage
>not enough components to cast a shitty spell
>recite a word/syllable/letter wrong to fail casting

enjoy goblin raping your ass

>>113348754
>>113348913

You fags are forgetting that when your spell book and components are gone, when your armor has rusted off and your weapons broken, only the Psion continues to fight on (if he hasn't ended the fight already).

>>113349448
>implying your DM wont have you do Balance checks all the time cos of your heavy shit coming in your way.

Fight horseback? Balance check DC 25
Walk over an old suspension bridge? DC 20
Just standing on a ship through storm? DC 20

If you want to wear the most powerful armor in the game, be prepared for consequences.

>not having innate dragonblood powers
>2011

ISHYGDDT