we hate it because it sucks

>>109274065

That's all I ever get, why does it suck?

>>109274320

DMC2 syndrome. It's not a bad game, but it's easily the worst of the series.

I just started the first game because all the damn hype this series has gotten has put me over the edge. I plan to play Invisible War before I get to the new one. Is this that bad an idea?

Also how related is the third to the first two? Could you skip the first two? Curious even though I decided against that.

>>109274320

Like someone said in the previous thread, Deus Ex IW is to Deus Ex, what Starhip Troopers 2 is to Starship Troopers.

>not playing a game because people you don't know dislike it

You are retarded.

>>109274575
Starship Troopers was the worst piece of shit I ever saw, and then people told me I was supposed to like it for being shit. Can I get a better comparison?

>>109274500

The new one, Human Revolution, is the prequel to the first game.

>>109274575
It cant be that bad......can it?

Whatever happened to just fucking playing games? Do people seriously need to be spoonfed opinions beforehand now?

>>109274722
Well looks like a case of 2DEEP4U. But no seriously its a satire, all the corny exaggerated bits in it are intentional

>>109274800
It's not an abomination, it's just not as good as the first game.

>>109274800
You've never played the first game so of course you don't know how fucking bad IW is in comparison, you goddamn retard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roFh5vFcxZQ

It's pretty much the patient zero of consolitis. which is doubly offensive because deus ex is like the poster child of pc gaming

Looking at it with a mind thats lived through the modern gaming generation, compared to what they did to the "spiritual successor" of system shock, fucking xcom as a goddamn generic shooter, and console fps in general nowadays, invisible war will probably be a masterpiece.

It also ran like ass on computers at the time because it was optimized for xbox. And they turned JC Denton into an almighty cunt

>>109274947
Well ST2 was an abomination and a insult to movies in general.

>>109275043
ST1 was an abomination and an insult to the source material so it kinda fits

>>109274575
Bullshit. I say this as both a DE fan and a Starship troopers fan. Invisible war was fun, but it wasn't Deus Ex.

Starship troopers 2 was shit and wasn't starship troopers.

The engine is utter shit, looks terrible, is about as expensive to render as the CRYengine, shows your desktop between loading screens, doesn't support either 6:9 or 6:10 as far as I can remember, the voice acting is pure shit, the combat is awful and just walking around feels akward as fuck.

Nifty physics though.

It was a decent game, just not a decent Deus Ex game.

>>109275296
>6:9 or 6:10
wat

>Universal ammo

>>109275296
Nifty but ultimately shallow physics, you mean.

>>109275296
Don't forget that that you couldn't step more than two feet before you caught a famous loading screen.

>>109275244
To be fair. ST1 had so little to do with the source material they could have changed the name of the movie and you would have never made the connection that it was linked to it.

>>109275933
>The game doesn't minimise during loading, you clearly just have a shit computer.

I have the exact same problems. It drops straight to desktop and you can't tell if the game crashed or is actually loading until it resumes into a loading screen.

You hear that shit about PC games being consolized? IW is where it started.

>>109275244
ST1 owned. The book is basically raw shit from Heinlein's excessively poopy butt.

Anyway, the erason people hate Invisible War is that it is terrible. Setting aside the stupid narrative and terrible systems design, Deus Ex is a game that lives and dies on the strength of its level design. On the strength of fairly open levels, multiple paths, SSMA, etc, etc.

The thing is, Deus Ex 2 was written on one of the worst engines ever. It's true! Unreal 2 didn't do thet hings they wanted it to. So one of their coders was all "Look, I'll just write a new level loader and lighting system" and he wrote a whole bunch of shit, quit/got fired abruptly, and disappeared without any documentation. It turned out that his systems stank, so levels had to be very small and enclosed.

TINY fucking maps.
Unified ammo.
Retarded fucking plot that tried to accommodate all the endings of Deus Ex.
Main character is an annoying douche bag.
None of the organizations make any fucking sense.
Really fucking shitty augmentation system, which had extremely limited character customization options compared to the first game.
There's probably a million other things that sucked but this is all I can remember, been a long time since I played it.

>>109276352
>ST1 owned. The book is basically raw shit from Heinlein's excessively poopy butt.

4chan is intended for users of age 18 and over

>>109276588
>Implying people under 18 even know who Heinlein is.

>>109276588
Hmm I take it you are the military type to be so offended by the ST movie

>>109276714
More offended by the Heinlein disrespect

>>109276588
I am over 18. Which is why I know that Heinlein was a shit writer who never wrote a good book.

He's not like Asimov where he was a shit writer that wrote ground-breaking books and improved dramatically over the course of his multi-decade career. Heinlein was just shit all the way through.

Over-simplification of nearly everything that made the original awesome:

Universal ammo; every gun used a different amount per shot to balance this.

Skill points/proficiencies completely gone, character progression/development to be done only through augmentations and weapon mods(which they themselves had been simplified).

Areas were microscopic compared to the original game, a point made so painfully clear at the end of the game during which a revisit to a location in the original that was once one large singular area is divided into...many(5? or more) areas.

And then the plot, perhaps the most painful of deus ex 2's crimes. You play as a character who seems to have no emotional investment in anything, and not in the gruff, hardened way. S/he will stare with that same wide-eyed vapid look that every fucking single other npc in the game shares during conversations and consistently give off the impression that s/he's too fucking stupid to care. During what is undoubtedly the worst way to start a deus ex game, you'll meet the other cast of dipshits you'll be asked to endure for the rest of the game, over the course of which the plot of the original will be surgically torn to shit. Example: the entire premise of invisible war is built on the foundation that all 3 endings of the original somehow happened simultaneously.


Other than that, its an ok game. Its just a fucking horrid deus ex.

It's not a horrible game OP, and I thoroughly enjoyed it enough to finish it. If I had to make a half-ass comparison off the top of my head, it'd be comparing Morrowind and Oblivion, or maybe System Shock 2 and Bioshock. SS2 had its flaws but those pretty much melted away because you were enjoying the game so much. Then Bioshock comes along, neatly packaged and cleaned up for the console audience. For whatever reason, its flaws are more glaring and you're less wililng to forgive them. But in the end, Bioshock is still a fairly enjoyable game even though it's not really SS2.

I think Invisible War and Human Revolution fall somewhere in between the two examples above.

>>109276929
>the entire premise of invisible war is built on the foundation that all 3 endings of the original somehow happened simultaneously.

That actually sounds kind of interesting. IF they executed it correctly.

>>109278375

the endings of deus ex lead to such widely different outcomes that it feels impossible to make a scenario that accommodates them all.

how does JC empower the illuminati, blow up area 51(plunging the world into a new darkage), and at the same time merge with an ai which, according to the game itself, sends him into a coma?

Keep wondering, because the plot of invisible war never even attempts to explain

> 2011
> listening to /v/ about anything whatsoever

... yes, you know what I'm getting at. Do NOT listen to /v/, they're a bunch of manchildren who will literally whine about everything that's possible to whine about (and some things that aren't)