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    445 KB Dragon Ball Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:37 No.109208788  
    Old thread >>109200980

    Current discussion

    >How strong Mr. Satan really is?
    >Tien - man or alien?
    >Why was everyone surprised at superpowers at Cell Games?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:38 No.109208929
    >>109208788
    God, the scale on these pictures is atrocious
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:38 No.109208933
    What dub is best dub?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:39 No.109208945
    >>109208788
    Tien is a human

    And they just made humans get progressively more retarded as the show went on, until the huge clusterfuck at the end of the Buu saga. God damn it getting those fuckwads to put their hands in the air was like pulling teeth.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:39 No.109208955
    not vidya
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:39 No.109208975
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    I'm going to post DB screencaps because I have nothing better to do. Right now, Piccolo Junior vs Krillin
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:39 No.109208993
    >>109208788
    >Strongest "normal" human
    >Who knows? Toriyama doesn't know himself. He doesn't even care
    >Toriyama's alzheimers
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:40 No.109209069
    >>109208788
    >cell juniors doing those stupid poses you had to do when your parents used to take you to those places to get your picture taken to give to grandma
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:41 No.109209091
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    >HOW CAN A HUMAN MOVE THIS FAST?!
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:41 No.109209102
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OJqJ347Hkw
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:41 No.109209114
    >>109208933

    The original Japanese version
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:41 No.109209135
    >>109209114
    weeaboo detected
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:41 No.109209136
    >>109209114
    stfu weeb
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:41 No.109209146
    I want to see Mr Satan fight a normal Person! Is he a good fighter in his own right if he isn't fighting freaks!!?

    And Tein should have been Eternal Rival God tear! His eye can copy any technique for crying out loud! He could have learned that planet destroying ball frezia used!
    SHIT!!
    I WANT SOMETHING
    AKIRAAAAAAAA!!!
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:42 No.109209155
    >>109209114
    Nope.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:42 No.109209187
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    >>109208975
    >watch fight
    >see roshis flashback of krillin
    >be reminded of what he was like
    man he was a little turd back then.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:42 No.109209194
    I still say that the stupidity from cell onwards is playing on the fact that many viewers hadn't watched dragonball and people that did watch it were more likely to forget how stupid it was
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:42 No.109209198
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    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:42 No.109209213
    >>109209136
    >>109209135
    Enjoy your butchered, no violence, no nudity, awfully dubbed versions murrikans.

    http://fanservice.wikia.com/wiki/Bulma_Briefs
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:43 No.109209243
    >>109209114
    Every non-weaboo knows that the best dub is the mexican one.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:43 No.109209274
    >>109209213
    enjoy reading subtitles
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:44 No.109209294
    >>109209135
    >>109209136
    >>109209243
    >on 4chan
    >whining about weeaboos

    /r/ing that picture.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:44 No.109209299
    >>109209146
    Tien really should have remained Goku's rival. But they had to give that position to Piccolo... then to Vegeta... despite their characters really not lending themselves to that in any way shape or form.

    ESPECIALLY Vegeta, for fucks sake he was a smarmy little space pirate, then suddenly became the PRIDEFUL SAIYAN KNIGHT
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:44 No.109209313
    >>109209213
    You seem really pissed. Dubbing has nothing to do with your link.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:44 No.109209321
    >>109209135
    >>109209136

    Hurr, Dragonball is the only anime I really watch, how can I be a weeaboo?

    >>109209155

    None of the English dubs do the original justice. They always fuck something up.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:44 No.109209352
    >>109209313
    >no nudity
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:45 No.109209364
    >>109209321
    >Justice

    They're fine. And the original music is literally shit.

    It's part of the reason Kai is shit
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:45 No.109209385
    >>109209274

    I can read subtitles really fast, it's not that hard.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:45 No.109209392
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    >Don't mind me, just learning to master flight before Goku, Yamcha or Tien.

    >inb4 people scream that Tien could fly in the 22nd tournament, not realizing that Tien himself states he is only able to hover
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:46 No.109209434
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    >>109209294
    this one?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:46 No.109209462
    >>109209364
    >Japanese music
    >shit

    do ho ho ho

    >DRAGON DRAGON ROCK THE DRAGON
    >better than

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCe9lzAt8M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rICAYE-bztU
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:47 No.109209534
    >>109209274
    Thank you, I will, my first language isn't English. I learned English by reading them AND can also read them incredibly fast. I'm used to them.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:47 No.109209542
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    >>109209392
    Probably sucked in a lot of air like with his fight with Goku, only now he's expelling it out of his arse.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:47 No.109209556
    >>109209462
    >Japanese music
    >shit


    Yup. Hell's Bells for instance, is better than 95% of the Japanese crap.

    Sorry we don't agree, bro.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:47 No.109209573
    >>109209364

    No they're not, they fuck with Goku's characterization, among a lot of other things.

    They're is nothing wrong with Shunsuke Kikuchi's music, at least it doesn't drone on for eternity like any of the dub scores.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:47 No.109209574
    Tien is a human who achieved enlightenment, thus gaining a third eye.

    How strong is Mr Satan? He killed Cell
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:48 No.109209592
    >>109209434
    i assume you mean the chinese restaurant one?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:49 No.109209662
    >>109209392
    NOPE!

    In Dragonball when Yamcha, Tien, and Krilin were saving the village from the volcano, Krilin almost falls in some lava or something and Tien says something along the lines of "You should really learn to fly Krilin"

    It left out a lot of their training during that time, so I think the others learned before him, as Tien was basically saying it's about time he catches up.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:49 No.109209663
    >>109209574
    >He killed Cell
    Come again?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:49 No.109209694
    >>109209662
    What dub?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:50 No.109209721
    How the fuck can you read an anime with as much filler as DBZ?
    I can barely listen whilst doing other stuff without getting bored
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:50 No.109209724
    >>109209663
    He defeated Cell
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:50 No.109209730
    >>109209573
    >they fuck with Goku's characterization

    Really? Lol. Soyou're one of those people

    Explain how

    >They're is nothing wrong with Shunsuke Kikuchi's music

    There's tons wrong. Kai proves that.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:50 No.109209753
    >>109209662
    That episode was filler. Like, hardcore filler.

    The anime even made a mistake in the Goku vs Tien fight. They had Tien weaving side to side in the air. In the manga they never move in the air, only jump and hover.

    Only Chiaotzu is able to fly, followed by King Piccolo, followed by Junior, followed by Krillin, followed by Goku, followed by everyone else.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:50 No.109209754
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    I never watched GT, I always assumed it was quite shit and by the way people talk about it, that seems about right. Am I missing something or is it as terrible as people say?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:50 No.109209762
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    >>109209663
    I have proof
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:50 No.109209764
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    ChiChi had an affair with raditz, Gohan isnt even Gokus son.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:50 No.109209772
    >>109209724
    Which show did you watch, bro?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:51 No.109209803
    >>109209721
    >read
    >an anime
    lolwat
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:51 No.109209811
    >>109209556

    Hell's Bells was fucking run into the ground, and it's not even that good to begin with.

    SSJ3 theme was the only good "Faulconer" music.

    I'm guessing you haven't watched Dragonball before, DBZ's music is similar but more serious
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:51 No.109209821
    >>109209146

    Remember when Buu's puppy got shot by that blonde faggot? Hercule went straight up there after him and beat the fucking shit out of him so hard that Buu forgot to be angry. He even kicked him off a goddamn cliff. He might not be superhuman, but he's nothing to sneeze at.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:52 No.109209884
    Mr. Satan is the peak of human ability without getting into the wacky super powered shit.

    Tien is human but apparently there is some alien blood in his tribe, hence the third eye.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:52 No.109209887
    >>109209754
    >Am I missing something
    Correct aspect ratio.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:52 No.109209907
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    >You will never see Piccolo assume his giant form and fight an Oozaru
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:52 No.109209924
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    I have watched two English dubs, the Japanese one and Mexican one for both DB and DBZ. I have to say the Mexican one is superior for a number of reasons:

    -It's not censored.
    -It stays mostly loyal to the original lines except for jokes that didn't make sense when translated.
    -It had the original Japanese soundtrack.
    -Many voices, like adult Goku's, were changed in favor of more fitting ones.
    -The screams are manlier than the Japanese ones but not as over the top as the English ones.

    If anyone else has seen a better dub than the Mexican one, I would like to try it out.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:53 No.109209932
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    >>109209762
    Thanks for the laugh.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:53 No.109209933
    >>109209803
    Subs
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:53 No.109209935
    >>109209811
    Sure I have. You're just saying that because I don't agree with you
    And you could make that argument for all of the music, and I can't really refute it. Still prefer it however.

    I've watched both versions in their entirety, and I don't prefer the original Japanese. Keep trying to convince me otherwise, though.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:53 No.109209956
    >>109209754
    Yes. It really is not worth it. I watched it just to see SS4..not even cool, just retarded.

    Also, it's like they forget they have fucking super powers sometimes. Like one of the earlier episodes Goku and Trunks are literally running away from people just shooting them with guns. And the guys took their spaceship and they had to do all this shit to get it back when they literally could have killed every single one of them with a blink of their eye.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:54 No.109209994
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    >>109209907
    oh god, im being reminded of that pete vore comic.....
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:54 No.109210001
    >>109209924
    >Many voices, like adult Goku's, were changed in favor of more fitting ones.
    >implying that a voice can be more fitting than what the fucking creator intended it to be

    No.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:54 No.109210021
    >>109209754
    Don't. It's...it's just so bad. And I give leeway to everything DBZ related
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:54 No.109210024
    >>109209754

    There were a few watchable episodes (the super #17 arc was okay, super #17 was rad but the ending was dumb and it was only three episodes long). Except for maybe six or seven episodes, the whole series was rife with plotholes, powerlevel inconsistencies, Goku being the go-to day-saving guy for every single fight, and Pan.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:54 No.109210037
    >>109209662
    He said "master your flying technique" implying that he knew how but couldn't pull it off easily.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:55 No.109210048
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    >>109209884
    >Piccolo destroys the entire tournament island, wiping it the fuck out into a goddamn desert

    >Everyone is chill with him just strolling back in during the Buu saga
    >> Snåre 09/05/11(Mon)08:55 No.109210057
    >>109209924
    Can you show a clip of the show with the Mexican dub?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:56 No.109210126
    >>109209811

    >SSJ3 theme was the only good "Faulconer" music.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9Hj9b0Cho

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpkeAQG6kQw
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:56 No.109210132
    >2011
    >liking the japanese soundtrack

    How the fuck can you like that old sounding shit. It sounds something straight off of a vinyl record. I knew you weaboos didn't have any taste, but goddamn.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:56 No.109210133
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    >Implying this isn't the most satisfying punch in the entire series
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:56 No.109210152
    I don't get people who say the English dubb screams are over the top. You mean Goku going SSJ3 wasn't awesome for you?

    You just sat there rolling your eyes?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:56 No.109210154
    >>109209213
    Looking at the old Dragonball pictures on that site, I have to say Toriyama's art really got a lot more formulaic with time.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:57 No.109210179
    >>109210132
    >implying that your opinion matters
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:57 No.109210195
    >>109208933
    >>109208933
    Mexican dub.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grVAW8uQXiQ

    Latin Spanish is the Mexican version.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:58 No.109210251
    >>109210126
    >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9Hj9b0Cho
    awful
    >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpkeAQG6kQw
    horseshit
    >> FinalMasterM !aDUgdVpoUk 09/05/11(Mon)08:58 No.109210288
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    >Posted her yesterday
    >Everyone thought she was Lunch
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:58 No.109210300
    >>109210132
    Honestly...for me, watching Kai and hearing it really just takes me out of the action. Seriously watch Kais transformation of SSJ and then watch the other English dubb with the American music.

    It's really hard for me to argue that they original music makes it more epic.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:58 No.109210307
    >>109209730

    Go watch the entirety of DBZ dubbed but put on the english subtitles and compare whats being said in the dub to what was said in the Japanese version. A lot of times it's completely different but for no good reason.

    For Goku all I have to say is "Ally to Good, Nightmare to You" vs "I am the Super Saiyan, Son Goku", which line is more in character for Goku?

    If you're talking about the replacement Kikuchi score for Kai, then I agree with you, the placement of the music isn't nearly as good as it was in Z, they are overusing certain pieces far more than the did in Z, and they aren't even using the entirety of Shunsuke Kikuchi's Z score since they aren't using any mono or unreleased tracks. I think Kenji Yamamoto's music was used better in Kai than how they are using Kikuchi's music in Kai.

    However, his score in Z is pretty much perfect for that show.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:59 No.109210321
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    >>109209994
    Hm? You say something?
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:59 No.109210331
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    >>109210048
    He probably killed everyone that went there, no witnesses...
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)08:59 No.109210338
    >>109210179

    >implying i'm not spreading the truth about how shitty the jap soundtrack is

    Weaboos gonna weeb
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:00 No.109210379
    >>109210195
    The perfect cell one you posted is never even in the show...ever
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:00 No.109210384
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    God I miss this inking style.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:00 No.109210412
    >>109210384

    Why, it's infinitely better later on
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:00 No.109210413
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    >>109210001
    Make way for the elder neckbeard here. The reason Goku's Japanese VA is a hit or miss is because his voice sounds rather unmanly for those of us raised in American or Europe or squeaky and childish at best. This is because he is voiced by the same woman who did the VA for kid Goku.

    Why they decided to keep it is beyond me, perhaps it was Toriyama's decision, perhaps someone else's. Anyway, I don't really like many of the Japanese VA picks for a couple of characters and I prefer how Goku sounds in English/Spanish because when he grows up, he sounds like an actual adult or at least older.

    I just can't stand the squeaky voice for some reason and don't even get me started on the yelling. Bottom line, it's just my opinion but it seems more fitting coming from an American/European background.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:00 No.109210414
    >>109210338

    >using weeaboo to insult fans of the Japanese version of DBZ

    Typical dub fan attitude.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:00 No.109210433
    >>109210338
    >implying that your opinion is fact
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    >Goku's "I am going to fucking kill you" expression that he stops using after training with Kami... when he stops fucking killing everyone he fights
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:02 No.109210557
    >>109210433
    You guys seem to think so when you claim Jap versions infinitely better.

    But if we say anything LOL WRONG.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:02 No.109210559
    >>109210413

    Masako Nozawa's Goku sounds a bit odd but she gets his character quirks down perfectly.

    I can't say the same about any other version of Goku I've heard.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:03 No.109210603
    >>109210433

    >Implying it isn't

    >>109210414

    I'm sorry but i don't like to read my shows. I prefer to listen in American thank you.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:04 No.109210625
    >>109210603
    >American
    3/10
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:04 No.109210632
    >>109210057
    Informational video coming right up!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs3lZGcfPac

    Not as good as watching the entire series in several languages but I will say each dub has its strengths.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:04 No.109210644
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    This guy here, if he trained he could have been the most deadliest instead he was just Choutzus playmate.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:04 No.109210661
    >>109210603
    >in American
    >American
    GOOD THING YOU REALIZED THAT SHIT YOU SPEW IS NOT ENLIGSH
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:04 No.109210669
    >>109210517
    I contest that the angriest Goku has ever been was the first time he fought Tambourine. Even more so than Frieza.

    >YOU KILLED HIM! YOU KILLED MY BEST FRIEND!

    >...I'm not going to fight you...

    >-Tenses up, tail hair goes all spikey, eyes all wild and shit-

    >I'M GOING TO KILL YOU!!!!

    Of course then Tambourine fucks his shit.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:04 No.109210674
    FACT: most people who claim that the Japanese dub isn't the best dub, haven't watched Dragon Ball before Z or even watched it at all.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:05 No.109210719
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    >>109210251
    >implying that those songs don't fit their respective characters perfectly
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:06 No.109210762
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    >>109209462
    Who said the english one was any better, i've never watched an original jap anime i haven't had to skip the intro on, Jap is all the same and is complete and utter shit and is like listening to knifes slowly pierce your eardrums.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:06 No.109210776
    >>109210307
    >For Goku all I have to say is "Ally to Good, Nightmare to You" vs "I am the Super Saiyan, Son Goku", which line is more in character for Goku?

    Not same guy but,

    Just going by the show's characterization, this would be pretty hard to argue, considering everything he's said up to that point in the English dubb, it actually fits him fine.

    But I'm assuming your talking about his comparison to the manga?

    In anycase, I find "I am a Super Sayian, Son Goku" cheesy as fuck. But hey that's me. The whole shit is cheesy lol.
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:07 No.109210833
    >>109210669
    I say he was angrier at Frieza. So mad he went SSJ and all that
    >> Anonymous 09/05/11(Mon)09:07 No.109210845
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