No, he did what he was made to do. Nothing that happened was truly of his choice at all. He is a puppet.

He's an arrogant asshole dick fucker rapist murderer.

FUCK YOU FUCKING FAGGOT I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE YOU FUCKING SCUM

>>105302908

So?

He's charismatic

I like him, he's a great antagonist

>>105302770
EH FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING PRICK FOLLOWING DREAMS MY ASS FUCK OFF SHITHEAD.

> yfw Griffith will make a perfect world only to be killed by Guts
> Guts hailed as the worst person in history for killing Griffith, king of the world.

>>105303119

>your face when Guts will die

Why does /v/ hate this guy? He did what he had to do.

Griffith will answer to his betrayals and sins one day

Hopefully at the end of Gutt's sword

>>105303237

>your face when Miura will die before the end of the manga

>>105303297

>yfw knowing Berserks history with supporting characters, everyone but Guts and Caska will die again.

>>105303297

>your face when Miura said Berserk was 60% finished

>>105302770
>He thinks Caska will survive
i hope you're right bro

> there will never be a manga like berserk ever again

>>105303784

Sign
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV26zIE0130

Forces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWfrDG0nmlk

Forces 1.5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFYTTDVmOTQ

>>105303881

www.gendou.com

free site, download songs from most anime (some missing unfortunently)

also

http://susumu-hirasawa.livejournal.com/27833.html

contains translations for Forces

>>105302908
So is Guts. Wha's your point?

>>105303881
>mfw I found and downloaded the entire discography of susumu hirasawa

>>105302770
>He did what he had to do.

>>105303384

>That feel when you've come to love all the supporting characters, even the purposely annoying ones, and they are all going to die because Guts can't have nice things.

>>105303881

Forces II is pretty good too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWXIQN7b9hw

>>105306327
Guts isn't a rapist.
He's the one that got raped.

>yfw Guts ends up sacrificing his friends with the Behelit and combines his new Apostle powers with his berserker armor to become a fucking super saiyan and kill the godhand, thus destroying the world and remaking it anew.

>>105307108
He raped Casca.

>>105303119

>>105303119
He will kill the last bad guy that way.
Just as planned.

>>105307189
>yfw Guts ends up sacrificing his friends with the Behelit
I only see that happening IF and only IF he's under the complete control of the suit. Otherwise I sincerely doubt he'd do that.

I really don't think he had to do anything.

GURRRIFFISSU!

BECAUSE GUTS WANTS HIS DICK
NONONO I WANt GUTS TO BE WITH ME
IM A HIGHSCHOOL LOSER THAT WANTS TO BE COOL TO OWN BULLIES AT SCHOOL LIKE 99% OF BERSERK READERS HURR DURR IM COOL AND EDGY

This thread is not complete without this masterpiece...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCyPapIW6Vc

My love for you...

To be completely fair...

If i'm honest I would probably kill everyone I love just for the immortality part. Let alone fixing a body that broken, let alone alone getting godlike powers out of the deal.

>>105303575

>60% finished

I'm going to be in a fucking old folks home by the time he finishes this, goddamn!

>>105307839
He'll be dead before we see the first God Hand battle.

>>105307454

And that's OBVIOUSLY gonna happen. It's fucking written basically, the speech that the Hellhound gives to Guts about "With such a yoke, don't think you can keep me in chains.." where he talks about his new comrades to protect, and the witch that thinks he can "tame" him.
"Cherish them well, so that you may suffer their loss once again"
Something bad is gonna happen to Guts, again.

Also, favourite arc? Mine was definitely Lost Children
Also, Berserk image dump?

>>105307993
Golden Age made me buy Mount and Blade.

>>105307993

>That feel when you jacked off to Jill and should feel really guilty about it, but you don't.

>>105308212
The only one I ever jacked off to was that mermaid girl from the current arc.

Favourite track from susumu hirasawa?

>>105307839
>>105307892
>>105303575

>Valve buys rights to the Berserk franchise.

>that feel when you watch berserk for the first time recently and then you finally realize the flood of Berserk threads

>>105307700
Is like A TRUCK.

>>105308793
BERSERKER

>>105308793
BERSERKER

>>105308910
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A FUCK?

>>105308957
BERSERRRRKER

A short list:

1. He used Charlotte as his meal ticket.
2. Technically raped Charlotte by coercing her into sex.
3. Used his "friends" for his own personal gain during his time as a mercenary leader.
4. Betrayed his friends after they went through hell trying to save his crippled ass, causing them to be eaten by hordes of demons.
5. Raped Casca in front of Guts just to spite him for leaving the Hawks, even though it was him using Guts as a tool that caused Guts to leave.
6. Possessed the deformed, demon tainted child of Guts and Casca.
7. Led an army to conquer the world, pretending it will be for their benifit, when he will most likely become a brutal tyrant.
8. Is destined to bring about the Apocalypse, due to him being "The Dark Hawk".

>>105308957

DID YOU JUST SAY.. MAKING FUCK?

>>105303784

Casca deserved it.

>>105309157

>coercion
>rape

no

>>105309157
> child of Guts and Casca
? How do you know Guts is the father?

>>105309379

>>105309557

Skull knight said so iirc. Skull Knight knows everything.

>>105309387

Uh, yes. Yes it is.

>>105309694
No, no it is not.

Pull your head out of your ass. If coercion is rape then most men are rapists.

>>105303297

You know what... As long as i get to know what happened between Skull Knight and Void i'm happy.

>No, he did what he was made to do. Nothing that happened was truly of his choice at all. He is a puppet.
Untrue.

Griffith did in fact have a choice, just like any apostle. It wasn't much of an option (accept his pathetic fate or fuck over the Hawks) but no one forced him into anything. Yes, he was goaded into making that choice by Ubik, but ultimately it came down to Griffith and his beliefs. If he pay attention, we know that he was already likely to choose himself over the Band of the Hawk, and the only reason he required any nudging in that direction was because they meant a great deal to him.

Honestly, it would have made a lot less sense, given everything we'd been told about his character, if he'd have chosen to sacrifice his dream for the sake of his soldiers. The Band of the Hawk was incredibly dear to him, but we already knew that above all he viewed them as a means to an end. He had already made it clear that the Band of the Hawk, however much he loved it, was merely the vessel which would carry him to his dream .

It's funny because that's the reason that Guts left (he didn't see the Hawks as "friends") and Guts leaving was what ultimately set everything in motion leading up to the Eclipse.

Yes it was all predetermined. Behelits don't get found by "accident" after all, but to say that Griffith never had any say in the matter is ridiculous. You should instead consider that he was chosen for his role in the grand scheme of things *because* he was the type of person who would make the "right" choice.

And now Vinland Saga is updating slowly as well.
Fuck this gay earth, I started reading Vinland Saga to replace the hole that Berserk left in my heart, now I'll need a substitute for the substitute.

These trolls get more pussy than the average /v/irgin

>>105310022
I can't tell you what happened between Void and SK but I can tell what happened between Flora and SK. Pic related.

>>105309836

Indeed. Have fun with that.

The only time sex is permissable is when both parties want it. Manipulating the other into it, whether it be from getting them drunk, putting some special stuff in their drink, or forcing yourself on someone (what Griffith did to Charlotte by forcibly kissing her, and then using her sexual arousal and emotions to manipulate her into it, even though she didn't want to).

>>105310208
Read Battle Angel Alita. READ IT.

>>105310258
Enjoyment, and excitement!

>>105310435
Almost got me.

You're good.

>>105310437
That's what people already told to read in another Berserk thread. It didn't quite work for me, got tired on the third volume.

>>105310435

>she didn't want to
>never said no
>drooled over griffith's cock like no one
>didn't complain about it at all

So if I seduce a girl, and have sex with her (with her willing to because she has been seduced by me) it's rape too?

You're being ridicolous. Charlotte wanted it like there was no tomorrow and Griffith knew it

So. Can someone tell me where there's a file I can download that has all the issues after 33?

I have a site that lets me download each CHAPTER individually, but it's such a fucking pain in the ass. I have really shitty internet.

>>105310690

He's trolling you dumb ass. Or he's a fucking hippy or feminist or something, ignore it.

>>105310680
But the third volume is when it starts to get good!

>>105310774
Oh, okay, I'll give it a second shot.

>>105310747
the pirate bay

>/v/ discussing Berserk
I have so much love for you right now /v/.
But it's so hard to like Berserk when there is so little coming out.

>>105310881
If you don't like it after volume 5 you can safely give it up. Then you can read vagabond or something.

Why hate Griffith? He is a chrismatic genius with no limits to his ambition. A shining paragon of human excellence.

What a guy

I love him so

>Still following Berzerk after the eclipse
I seriously hope you guys dont do this

>mfw japs use my surname for some faggot manga

>>105311126

>>105311044
Also tried Vagabond. There is absolutely no inclination in Battle Angel Alita or Vagabond that would make me dislike it, and yet I do, I guess I'm probably just getting old and tired.

>>105311126

>stopping when shit has just STARTED to hit the fan.

>>105311355
Oh Mozgus...
You came and went so fast...

>>105307454
That's come closer and closer to happening as the story went on. Guts is slowly coming to realize what Griffith really is and that he may never be able to get to him as he is. The behelit he got from The Count constantly returns to him after he loses it. It's even been said several times to Guts that he'll have to choose between protector or destroyer.

Slan herself realized that Guts still considers making a sacrifice to gain further power after she nearly killed him in Qlipoth.

>>105310690

Seducing =/= coersion.

Also, yes, she did say "no" to him when he forced himself onto her.

>>105310762

>Implying modern society isn't feminist for wanting equal opportunity for men and women.

I'm not some peacemongering love-child faggot, nor am I a feminazi cunt who believes that women should control everything.

>>105311355
Heretic? Nah, i just liked it when it was about complex intercharacter relationships with many levels under the backdrop of medieval warfare supported by political intrigue and world history.

It became boring when it was just another generic swords and sorcery power creep monster of the week manga and abandoned literally everything that made it good.

>>105307189
Guts itself is still a sacrifice, if he steps into that chamber the monsters will immediately try to eat him. Besides, it has been said multiple times that he is just a common mortal, the gods are not interested in him, he is just a nuisance in their holy plan.

>>105311549

Mozgus general?

>>105311869
Mozgus general.

It's nice to see /v/ still holds better Berserk discussions than /a/ does.
With the exception of that Ganishka guy. He's a bitch.

>>105311067
I can't hate Griffith. He's a bastard, but he's an incredibly well written character. I'm not the kind of obtuse faggot that can't appreciate being told a good character just because they're a "bad guy" or don't follow the same strict moral code I might in their position. Doing the crazy shit they do is what makes them interesting, and makes the story worth reading. You're also given an awesome look into Griffith's head and by the time the Eclipse comes along, you can understand why he is the way he is, how he got to this point, and what he ultimately decides to do.

It's such a fucking shame that people can't see past their petty outrage and fully appreciate all aspects of a good story, but I guess being able to create that outrage is part of what makes the story so good.

Griffith=The Light Bringer

The Light Bringer=Lucifer

Guts=Antichrist?

>>105311869
Hell Yes

>>105311067
That's actually the strange duality with Griffith.

His entire career as both a human and godhand he's been nothing short of praised as the savior of the world, hated only by Guts, his companions, and the Skull Knight.

At the end of his battle with Ganishka, he literally creates a white city out of nothingness, supposedly ushering in a new paradise for the people. The irony of this is that Griffith is LITERALLY an avatar of pure evil now, with his army being an army of demons, whose power was gained through the sacrifice and torture of countless innocents.

>>105311952

People hate him because he's that well written you cockmongling idiot.

>>105312027
I wonder where Miura got that idea. Did some sort of Vatican Priests do that in ancient times?

Streaming Samurai Jack
http://widdlyskudz.com/czarfiredome/
GET THE FUCK IN HERE!!!!!

That fucking hellhound man.
That fucking hellhound

>>105311952

Exactly.

Griffith is one of my favorite characters of all time.

I love to hate him.

>>105311952
The fact that people so vehemently hate him is what makes him a good villain, people hate him and that fantastic. I dont think anyone thinks he is a badly written character. If you dont really hate the villain then that would make him a bad character. At least thats what i think.

The way i see it, Griffith is a puppet of the God Hand, and if he isn't, he'll come to blows with them or be an evil tyrant.

Either way, in the end he's screwed.

>>105312227
Trust me, hating a character is the best sign you can have for a character.

>>105312061
Griffith is the little girl in Berserk's prototype.

The great thing about Berserk, is that it's not only one of the best mangas, but best stories ever written. It's sad that not more people know how good it really is.

>2011
>not listening to Kajiwotore

>>105312285
Agreed, it shows both that he has done great evil and that the reader cares about what he has done.

>>105311715
Berserk still has a well-written story with well-written characters. It just gets... overshadowed by monster-slaying action more than it used to.

he fucked casca

i wanna fuck casca

>>105311952
>Hating the antagonist
>A bad thing
I mean, I can understand if you have some sympathy for him, but people actively disliking the man who more or less destroyed everything the protagonist ever loved or cherished and screwed up his love life for personal spite isn't that much of a stretch,

>>105312131
Well there are places i think in Italy and south-America where they do this march and whip themselves till they bleed and faint.

In south-America they crucify themselves with nails.

i geuss he got it from that with all that self punishment for god.

>>105312455
Self-punishment and God has gone hand in hand for many years.

>>105312255
Griffith isn't a puppet of the God Hand, he IS a God Hand.

>>105312131

Ivan the Terrible. He was said to do a similer ritual every day.

PREDICTION.

Griffith is being used by the God Hand to enslave humanity. Once all the enemies of the Apostles, and Humans are gone, boom. Who's going to take over? The stronger ones. (apostles) whenever there is a lack of conflict, it will be created.

>>105312285
Agreed. I hated this guy (pic related) when I was a kid, I wanted him dead. Now looking back I can appreciate just how awesome it was that he could plant that seed of rage into my little body.

>>105312227
I guess I've spent a little too much time on a forum where they long to see a character they all vehemently hate be completely written out of the story because they're so mean and bad. Such a waste, considering that said character is BY FAR the best written and most developed in the series. Yet because this character does questionable things they get their panties in a fucking twist and want it replaced by something bland and agreeable.

>>105312565

Because the other 4 made damn sure of it.

Besides, my point is that the God Hand are evil so there's only two things that can happen, 1 Griffit tries to be a good and benevolent king and shit, which pisses the God Hand, or, he becomes an evil tyrant, which pisses the people.

Griffith is such a good character because he is excellent as being the evil character. He's not just evil towards Guts, the main character, but he's actually evil towards the reader, he actually takes all the characters we loved in Berserk and he kills them, he literally kills everything we liked in the story, and changes everything from that moment on, and that creates an emotional response from the reader. How many evil characters were able to pull that off in fiction? Very few from my point of view, and that's why he's so good, we just love to hate him.

Judeau was my favourite character. I can not hate Griffith any more for what he did.

If we do not get a Dragonslayer and Berserker armor tribute in Dark Souls..
I'm going to be pissed.

>>105312570
Now that explains it all.

>>105312771
The God hand wouldn't have a rats ass if Griffith was a good king. The ONE order the Godhand give to each apostle is to do whatever the fuck they want.

>>105312776

>steal everything and everyone from main character
>troll him for weeks until he turns into a murderous psychopath

>>105312817

i cant wait till he finaly loses his cool and begs for his life under guts blade, i want him to be revealed for the pathetic rat that he is.

OH GOOD GOD YOU HAVE FUCKING 15 BOARDS FOR THIS SHIT
ENJOY MY FIRST EVER REPORT, IM SO FUCKING TIRED OF THIS SHIT

>>105312978

But Grifith is a God Hand, not an apostle. Besides, it's obvious that they're up to something, Griffith either sticks with them or not, point is he's still going to get buttfucked by Gutts and ie he sticks with the God hand Gutt's killing him will be justified.

>>105313207
But this is videogames, never played Demon Souls?

>>105313207
>implying we're not discussing the berserk ps2 game

>>105312126
He addressed that.
>I guess being able to create that outrage is part of what makes the story so good.

>>105312771
the godhand themselves are just avatars of the deity created from all human evil and desire that controls the causality of the world events.

Even though griffith is an avatar of evil now, he doesn't consider himself good or evil, but rather a force of authority destined only to one purpose; To rule.

I edited this for /v/.

Whats the whole deal with Skull Knight anyway?

>>105313968
I think he used to be a king or something

>>105312435
Not saying it's bad to hate the antagonist.

However a lot of people overlook the intricacies and depth of a character because they just hate the character so much, they only pay attention to what they hate about them. They become blind to everything else.

It sometimes gets so bad with people that they'll take a really well written character like Griffith, and dumb them down to some one dimensional fucktard that's just evil for the sake of being evil. Just screwing over people for the pure Hell of it and never caring about anyone or anything besides himself. There's so much more to it than that, but people just focus on the hate and dismiss the rest.

You can understand where a character is coming from and what drives them without even liking them as a person. You can hate them as a person and love them as a character. A lot of people don't make that distinction and that's what bugs me. I feel like people are missing out on part of the story because they look at Griffith and just see some one dimensional megalomaniac. Thats a big part of him, but there's more than that.

Not saying that any of you don't make this distinction, but there are those that dismiss or belittle good characters because they don't like what they do...and that's gay.

>>105313968

He fights evil, fucks witches and has a horse.

>>105314033
Like an apostle who fights other apostles or something?

>>105312771
All of the 5 God Hand were once human.

They are just following their "fate", as is Griffith.

It's in their plan to have Griffith unite the world.

>>105302989
>quiet,calm and cool
>looks feminine
>charismatic

Actually, it's pretty obvious that they're not up to anything at all.

Slan already mentioned that the others don't care for anything more than floating around in whatever spacial dimension they conjur up for themselves. It even shows at one point a brief glimpse into the world the godhands exist in, each dimension a mirror of the godhand's ego.

Griffith isn't a pawn, but a big player in the plan to merge the physical world with the spirit world.

>>105313968

He was a king.
Then Void buttfucked him.

And now they have a relation ship like Griffit and Guts.

Or something. Oh! And his horse can fly.

>>105314371

And, he has this motherfucker.

It's like Soul Edge, but it cuts space, or some shit.

>>105314357

You dumb ass, that was meant to represent that the God Hand were being formed in the mortal world now that their world and this are one and the same.

Which leads many to believe that Skull Knight's "fuck up" wasn't one at all, but intended because Void is no longer out of his reach.

Is that skull a helmet or is it actually his face?

>>105313968
It's implied that he is the king that first created midland. His name starts with a G I think.

>>105314371
Skull knight was a king, he was one of the sacrifices by Void.

He escaped somehow, vows revenge, becomes skull knight through the berserker armor Guts is wearing.

>>105314569

Fuck knows.

>>105313235
Yes, they're up to something. They want to see the world reborn. They want to see the line between the real and supernatural blurred. The birth of the fifth Godhand heralded a new era. Griffith's job is to shape that era.

They don't really seem to have a strong preference how he does it, so long as he fulfills that role.

Which is exactly what he is doing.

The Godhand (Ubik, Slan, Void, Conrad) seem pretty chill in so much as they don't really give a shit exactly what happens, and are far more concerned with *how* it happens, and how it plays into causality.

Griffith is the exception to this and it seems to be why they're more or less following his lead lately.

>>105314132
I'm not sure if he's an Apostle or some sort of God Hand. That huge bull guy (sorry I'm drawing a blank on his name) helps out Guts and seems to have free will but when he gets a direct order from Griffith he seems to be bound to it. So assuming Apostles are bound to the God Hand's orders the Skull Knight is either a God Hand or a mere Mortal Human.

>>105314527
Even so, it still represents each godhand's inner ego.

>>105314694

>Skull knight was a king
Maybe.
>he was one of the sacrifices by Void.
>sacrifice
We don't know that.

>>105302770

>>105314795
He was a sacrifice for the Void.

But even if Skull Knight is a human how can he live for so long?

>>105314694
seems like SK knows how to control his berserker armor though

>>105314890

It's fucking magic.

>>105314837
They hint at it all the fucking time, essentially a Guts/Griffith. The armor shit is true though.

So does Guts have super strength or what?

How does he carry all that shit without falling to the ground or being a human snail?

Remember that thread where this anon said he wanted to see Guts get close to Adonis and then kill his father(brother of the king) and get forced to kill his pupil like Gambino tried all those years ago. Thus setting the "Guts leave the Hawks and Griffith goes emo about it".

>>105315121
Some kind of fuck-huge-swordmaster training

>>105313177
Oh he won't. Have you forgotten about the torture he went through, it didn't make him loose his "cool" If I remember correctly.

>>105315121
It's a normal thing when you start to learn to use swords.

>>105314944
Guts' Berserker Armor used to belong to the Skull Knight, so I'm guessing his Armor is even better.

>>105314795
The Bull guy is Zodd.

Apostles can choose not to follow the will of the Godhand (at their own risk) Wyald and Ganishka, both Apostles, went against the will of the Godhand and got buttfucked because of it.

Zodd follows the Hawk because he is INCREDIBLY loyal, not because he doesn't have a choice in the matter. He got some badass revelation in a dream and decided "Shit yeah, I love this guy!" and has happily been Griffith's bitch ever since.

Skullknight is definitely NOT an apostle. He's an incredibly strong human, likely powered up by some kind of crazy ass magic that allows him to do the crazy shit he does. He used to use the armor of the berserker back in the day, too.

>>105314944
>Skull Knight took armor off
>Took his flesh with it
>Sword keeps him alive

itt

>>105315008

Now they don't. All we know is that they know each other and that maybe Void betrayed SK, or fucked him over, the second is more likely considering Mozgus said Gaiseric's kingdom was destroyed by Angels(dur god Hand) that were summoned by a man Gaiseric imprisioned(Void?) or something along those lines.

We don't even know what SK is, is he a human? Apostle? Fuck knows.

>>105315305
The torture didn't make him lose his cool.

However Guts beating him in a duel and leaving him sure as fuck did.

Griffith went batshit fucking crazy when that happened, and that's what got him into trouble.

What everyone seems to forget is Griffith never considered the Hawks 'Friends'. The only person he considered close to him was Guts and even then the relationship was murky. He saw the Hawks as men dying for his ambition and for that he thanked them, but that is all.

When Guts left, Griffith was devestated because Guts was the first person he had begun to form a bond with. In the end that bond lead to Griffith losing everything. For that he resented Guts who had begun to gain everything (Caska and the Hawks respect). He realised that the bond he had formed with Guts had actually made him forget his ambition and resolved to severe those bonds so it would never happen again. He confirms it by meeting Guts at the sword graveyard mentioning he feels nothing for Guts now.

He never 'betrayed' the Hawks as Griffith always saw the Hawks as nothing but a means to his ends.

...wait a second...this sounds familiar...

>>105303881
I hope that last version of forces plays during the final battle.

The climax for this series will be on the same tier as motherfucking MGS4

On top of something big like gohand, guts and Griffith will use both there magical shit until those rune out, then use their weapons, then actually fucking break them because they were worn from the fight prior on the battlefields, then resort to their fists, where Griffith uses acrobatics as Guts goes full out hulk mode and literally hits things with full body force

As everyone is fighting below, Gut's crew and rebels army and Griffith's forces fight, as the countdown to Armageddon goes down, when Guts finally beats grithith godhand goes and fades away and they are returned to the top of wherever they were, Grittih will make a regret plea or the like, and stumble back arms spread out, facing Guts and dive off the top of wherever committing suicide like a kaw falling.

>>105315121
Fuck-huge swordman training and the power of RAGE.
As Zaeed said "rage is a hell of an anesthetic".

>>105315392
SK is more than likely Gaiseric. If you hadn't noticed, it seems he has a crown growing out of his skull.

Do you want to know a secret /v/?
pic related.

>>105315121
Did you even read the manga? Guts used to fight and train with adult swords since he was a fucking baby, which according to his size were as big as the Dragon Slayer sword, so he is used to it.

Guts does not have super strength, he is not special in any way, the whole thing about his demeanor is that he is a very resilient but fallible human being, everything he accomplished was on his own and against all odds.

>>105315845

I didn't argue that.

By the way, am i the only one who has noticed that Gaiseric's armor had a lion(Zodd) and a Dragon(Grunbeld)? on it?

>>105315635
I agree with everything you said besides one thing. He did betray the Hawks, because they were using him as well. They were willing to die for him because they had dreams of their own, and all of their "small" dreams were being swept into Griffith's "big" dream.

While everything you said about him seeing them as a tool with which to attain his desire is true, we shouldn't forget that the Hawks didn't each exist for that sole purpose. They were willing to fight and die for Griffith because they thought they were getting something out of it as well. They thought they'd get to the mountaintop with him so to speak.

In the end, though, Griffith had to go it alone, and was forced to throw them away in the process. It makes perfect sense that he would do that with all we know about him, but it's still reeaaalllly fucked up. That's what makes it so great.

anyone else excited for the films?

>>105316303
fuck yes.
>>105316311
>no pizza
what the fuck man.

>>105316303
>Films
What?
I've seen and heard the commercials to revive the anime, but films?

>>105316303
Wait, there's going to be films?!

>>105316418
3 movies for the Golden Age. Fully CGI, some of it looks horrible

>>105316417
it's not an anime, there are going to be three films.
http://berserk.wikia.com/wiki/Berserk:_Saga_Project

inb4 Skull Knight kills Gutts and turns him into a ghost like him

>>105316488
it's not fully CGI....

he will die before the manga is finished because he cant stop playing fucking dating sim games

>>105316417
>>105316418
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKkcY6Sfz5I

>>105315880
At the risk of sounding like a moron, what is that?

>>105316505
Oh okay, thanks for clearing the confusion up.

>>105316663
Oh shit
I'm excited

>>105316716
John Carmack and John Romero.
Why are you on /v/ and don't know that.

>>105316716
The guys who made DOOM. It honestly doesn't make any sense as it's Romero's own damn fault he's no longer relevant. Carmack isn't any better these days anyway.

>>105316311
>Guts vs Dante fight

>>105316262

I guess its a matter of perception. To the Hawks Griffith betrayyed them, to Griffith he didnt. Griffith said to Guts "I will chose when and where you die", showing that Guts was only brought on because he was useful to Griffiths ambition, as were all the Hawks.

You are right that the Hawks had their own dreams and saw Griffith as a means of fulfilling their desires, but Griffith considered them nothing but fuel for his own dream. I forget what chapter, but when he speaks to the princess he says "the man I would call my friend would have his own dream and would even fight me to fulfill that dream". This is where he also mentions about the soldiers die for his ambition.

Anyway short summery, to Griffith he didnt betray the Hawks as he saw them from the begining as tools. To the Hawks (and most of us) he DID betray them.

>>105316823
Oh god.
My sides...
Please tell me you have more.

>>105316488
I'm not the biggest CGI fan but It looks far from horrible...

>>105316844

>implying they'd fight

They'd team up to fuck the God Hand.

>>105316942
The part where it zooms in on Guts, then the night raid, and Zodd just look awful.

DAT SKULL KNIGHT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL4aTvcNqKo

>>105302770

Is that Sepiroth in Knights armour?

>>105317184
Griffith has been around much longer than Sephiroth.

>>105317184
Just get the fuck out.

>>105317087
I actually don't like the CG at all. But that's me, I never enjoyed CG mixed with drawn animation.

>>105317520
I don't really mind the CG, but I would prefer a more traditionally animated trilogy.

About when was the latest chapter released? I'm not sure if there has come out any new ones after I finished reading. And do we have any idea of when new chapters will come?

>>105317618
Its back on break, and the last chapter was like 2 weeks ago

>that feel when your favorite mangas are Berserk, Vagabond and Vinland Saga but you have to wait like forever between chapters

>>105317618
23 or 24 of July, If I remember correctly.
Hiatus again.

>'Till Next Time!

>>105316534

He's not a ghost. He just abused the Berserk armor and some crazy shit happened to him.
The same is going to happen to guts. Fuck, after he used it for ONE time he got a fucking white patch of hair because of the stress and he started losing taste, touch, etc..

>>105317666
>>105317666
How is a month forever? Vinland is monthly. Vagabond is on hiatus and Berserk is irregular but averages out to be a monthly manga.

I would prefer they continued the anime rather then make three movies. Im not saying the movies will be bad, but I doubt they will be able to squeeze the entire Berserk story into three movies.

Also these movies better have some mother fucking Susumu Hirasawa in it!

Non - vidya.

>>105317664
Oh shit now I'm happy, I guess I better read that shit then :D

>>105317666

my bro, i thought I was the only one who read those three

>>105317835
Note to the wise, don't use faces like that on 4chan.
We just use reaction images.
Only saying so since you like Berserk.

>>105316852
I remember those chapters (the one where he was talking to Charlotte, the one where he found the broken toy soldier, the one where Guts is overlooking camp and sees all the bonfires and likens each of them as an individual dream) and again, I think you're right. From Griffith's point of view, he was just doing what he had always done: Making a calculated sacrifice to obtain the most desirable result. You could say that the Eclipse was his big cash in.

I would rather see it this way, though: Griffith had a choice, he could either betray the Hawks (while he may not have seen them as equals, he did care deeply for each and every one of them)

Or betray his own dream, which was the entire purpose of the Hawks to begin with. He even considered doing this. He thought about what his life would be like if he just called it quits there, but in the end he chose his own dream over the people who were most important to him.

To say he saw them as nothing but tools and that he had no doubts about betraying their faith in him sorta belittles his offering them as a sacrifice, I think. I think he knew it was fucked up, and I don't think it was easy.

>>105317769

And we're led to believe that there's nothing under the armor. Ie, he's a ghost.

>>105317666
>>105317666
>>105317666
>>105317666
>>105317666
>>105315666
>>105315666
>>105315666
>>105315666
>>105315666
>>105315666
>>105315666


TWO FUCKING SATANIC TRIPS IN ONE THREAD?!??!?!


OP IS GODHAND

>>105317769
I wouldn't be surprised if the Armor was empty and he's actually inside that weird looking sword of his, controlling the armor as a vessel.

>>105317808
It's vidya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OShQ6j1G4o

>>105317988
Read the thread, there are more people talking about Vinland Saga and Vagabond.

Skull Knight was a sacrifice and managed to escape like Guts did. He used to wear the Berserker armor but that's all that's really known.

>>105318129
That game is pretty bad. The PS2 one is good though.

>>105303257
>>105302770


Fuck you both.

But you know what, fuck you more Harry.

What you did... *sniff*... what you did... No, just fuck you, man.

>Skull Knight was a sacrifice

We don't know that, it's not even implied. All we know is that Void and him knew each other, nowhere is it implied that he was a sacrifice.

>>105318363
Void sacrificed Skull Knight's kingdom.

>>105318450

That IS implied, but SK himself being a sacrifice is not.

>>105318109
A RED BEHELIT BLADE!?

NOT ON MY WATCH

Why does /v/ always have the best Berserk and One Piece threads?

>>105318539
Because /v/ never talks about it, so when they have a thread there is actually things to discuss. Unlike /a/, which discusses every chapter and when it goes on break there is nothing to talk about.

OP threads? Who gives a shit, the current arc is shit.

>>105318528
Not the other guy, but, welp, knowing that Skull Knight was the King of that Kingdom (again, we do not have 100% certainty of that, they just say the King used to wear the same armor), the King seems like a pretty tasty sacrifice. So yes, it is heavily implied he is a sacrifice.

If the Kingdom was sacrificed, seems Void might be Gaiseric while SK might be the prince or a vassal.

>>105318656
>/v/
>never talks about Berserk

Almost had me there.

>>105318790

Ah, but the God Hand said that a sacrifice had to be someone you cared about, from what we know it was implied that SK and Void were enemies even before the sacrifice.

>>105318656
>/a/ talking about Berserk

AM I BEING TROLLED

>>105318969
but Void calls Skull Knight, "your majesty"

>>105318969

Well both have a skull motif... But the one who summoned the God Hand was an imprisoned man, why would the King be in imprison?

>plot twist:

It was SK who betrayed Void

>>105317666
I need mangas like those and I need them now

>>105319072

That was Slaan, not Void. But maybe she was trolling him, and if he was a prince or something it still fits, maybe SK betrayed Void and took his kingdom, which then Void sacrificed.

>>105319135
Or maybe Void is the King and Skull Knight is a Prince or something

>>105319135
>It was SK who betrayed Void
SK wants revenge on Void, so that doesn't make sense.

>>105319224
oh shit, my bad.

>>105318539

Same reason why /a/ and /tg/ have better vidyia threads than /v/

>>105319299

Actually, we don't know that, we just know he wants to kill him.

Besides, assuming SK betrayed Void and then Void sacrificed the kingdom, well SK would be fucking mad.

I was at volume 34 last time I read Berserk. How many are there now?

>>105319480
it's in 36 now.

Ok, how about this
Void was the king and Skull Knight overthrew him and placed him in the dungeon where Void sacrificed the kingdom

>>105319630
The Emperor wore armor very much like Skull Knight, so the Emperor was probably SK.

>>105319630
Well, it does check out, kind of.

Void was SK father, he went mad with power and when SK went an confronted his father he slapped his shit and set thing straight, yet couldn't bring himself to kill his father. Void sacrified his kingdom AND his son.

Now wouldn't that be one hell of arc?

>>105319729
maybe Void overthrew the SK, and wore the armor, and SK's rage shaped the armor into the shape of what he wanted?

>>105319299
I'm pretty sure being an >implied sacrifice is enough to warrant uncontrollable hate and revenge even if you were the original betrayer.

>>105319729

Except Void also has the skull motif.

needs more Serpico up in this bitch.
thrwos branches at guts and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>105319836
Plus
>>105319630

>>105319964
well he'll be dead in a few chapters like everyone else

>>105319836
Why do I get this "King Allant & Ostrava" vibe, maybe it's time for me to replay some Demon's Souls.

>>105319964
Eternally friendzoned beta

>>105320092
but... but he can fly

>>105320178
Well Demons Souls is basically Berserk: The Game anyway

Eventually Guts and Griffith are going to be forced to work together to overcome someone/thing like how Guts had to work with Zodd.

And then it will turn out Griffith could have done it himself, he just wanted to be a dick.

>>105319891
New thought:

What if Void is the original God Hand? I mean, after all, it could be imfered that he sacrificed an entire kingdom/empire, he bears the skull motif, and he is the only one so far seen bestowing the brand (all of... twice).

Plus, his english vo in the anime was fucking awesome, so that has to count for something.

>>105320448
I think they mentioned there is a higher power (like a true god) beyond the God Hands.

>>105320576
The Idea of Evil

>>105320448
could make sense. i mean if there wasn't any godhand then how could void possibly sacrifice shit.

That'd be one hell of a dickmove, if this was posted on /tg/ many people would point that this is a "Eldrad level dickmove".
>"What a dick!" -Gutts after being tricked by Griffith/Femto/Eldrad

GLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITHUUU

>>105320630
Thanks for that, was able to google something interesting. Apparently there is a lost chapter that miura never released.

http://berserk.wikia.com/wiki/Idea_of_Evil