There was nothing good about Alpha Protocol. Fucking Invisible War was better. And that game fucking sucks.

I have no idea why people keep hiring Obsidian. They take forever to make game and when it does come out it's unplayable shit.

No, cover system worked fine in Alpha Protocol; it just needs to be up to snuff with actual full-on shooters for it to be good.

Also the horrific bugs. That will never be fixed though because Obsidian.

A more refined version of Alpha Protocol's RPG elements + Mass Effect/Dragon Age's more clear dialogue wheels + a more coherent plot + Splinter Cell Conviction's cover system/shootan would be fucking ownage.

If the gameplay/cover system was more Masseffect 2 then This game would rock (oh also remove the 1000's of bugs)

>>104025775
You didn't even like the dialog itself? Or the story?
C'mon, those are the redeeming things about AP.

>Buy AP during Summer Sale
>Install
>Get to hacking training
>No idea wtf I'm doing
>uninstall

It didn't seem good, the fifteen minutes I bothered playing.

I've replayed this game like 3-4 times, just for exploiting all possibilities and still I'm not able to Kill Mardburg. That douche

>>104026138
The story's not very good, but the branching story-telling was.

Alpha Protocol was a fucking trainwreck though, they have no right to pat themselves on the back for anything in that game. The characters were all unlikable and the story sucked, the gameplay was buggy, unsatisfying, and ill-conceived, and the graphics were decidedly poor. Thankfully it sold incredibly poorly, so no, an Alpha Protocol 2 is exceedingly unlikely. I just wish Obsidian would die already, they are talentless hacks.

>>104026283
>have ADD
>game is not good
dohoho
Disregarding this, the game was quite alright if you forced yourself to ignore the bugs, I got attached to a few characters and overall enjoyed the game
Would like a sequel I guess

That means I have to force myself to play through AP1 first, goddomn ot

Omega Protocol, now with more Sis and WHY CONTAIN IT? LET IT SPILL OUT INTO THE STREETS

fuck yes

If they let me play a girl this time, I'll buy it.

If there is a sequel I HOPE TO GOD its not published by SEGA
Every, EVERY game they touch is turned to shit
>publisher
>related to developing
yes yes I know, but really now, everything they publish ends fucked up

YES

>>104026283

This, I never got very far into the game because it was ugly, buggy and felt kind of bland (Doesn't help that the cover was bad and dialogue felt rushed/unclear)

If they're making AP2 I'm intrested for sure, I know a game I would like is in there somewhere.

>>104026779
Publishers do have a say in the development, in fact they have a pretty big say since they're the ones paying for the party

>>104026138
It could be fucking Of Mice and Men and it wouldn't save the bugs or shit gameplay.

Obsidian is like the Western Grasshopper Manufacture: They have alot of experience yet they don't know how to build a fucking game around their ideas.

>2011
>people still defending Obsidian

It's cool and all but I'd really rather play the first one...

If I got it working that is. Fucking Win7...

>>104026978
>2011
>people didn't play AP or like AP
>buying Obsidian games for their bugless gameplay
chortlingwhores.jpeg.

>>104025558
If you are lying I will find you, kill you and feed your body to the pigs OP

but joking aside, that is great, realy loved this game.
I still can see why people would dislike it, the gameplay was kind of shitty.
Strangely I saw no bugs on my several playthroughs.. aside from that glitched embassy ending... was I just lucky or is the whole bugs, bugs everywhere thing just typical /v/ bandwagoning?

>>104027178
>Obsidian game
>bugless

>>104027214
>glitched embassy ending
HA! My embassy ending didn't get glitched

>>104026910
the cover? realy?

the cover modifies the amount of fun you recieve srom playing a game?

>>104026779
Interestingly enough, Sega gave Obsidian like 6 extra months to polish and fix things in Alpha Protocol and they apparently did jack shit with that time. Not saying that Sega puts out good games (I can't even think of one off the top of my head) but instead of rushing out Alpha Protocol for the Holiday season, they delayed it in the the hope that Obsidian would actually make it playable.

>>104027444
i admit, i lol'd hard.

HOW ABOUT THEY FINISH THE FIRST FUCKING GAME

>>104027214
>start the game up
>My character is standing in a room
>before I even move, an NPC guard frozen in an attack animation clips through the wall gliding across the floor and runs into me before slowing sinking into the floor
>uninstall.exe

Is this another no right no wrong game? I hate those.
I can spend 45 minutes on one decision I swear to god

>>104027499
It works out ok if you talk your way in, sneaking is glitched

>>104027559
NOT TRUE.
The delay was on Sega's part, but the devs were literally finished with it and couldn't touch it as they have done their jobs already and Sega didn't let polish it.

>>104027214
OP here. It's not fake, google it. I'm surprised you haven't seen it.
I didn't experience any bugs except for one time i got stuck in cover but changing weapons fixed that. So, aside from that, no bugs on my end. Not even the embassy thing.
And i liked the gameplay. First run was stealth/pistols, and apparently it was easy mode, so next i did an angry spy jackie chan. And that was fun as hell.

>>104027697
Yeah, I talked my way in

>>104027559
>Not saying that Sega puts out good games (I can't even think of one off the top of my head)

They published Bayonetta

>>104026657
I'd buy it regardless, and I don't want them to compromise their vision of the game to cater to my wish to be the little girl, but I'd definitely take that option if they added it.

>>104027693
game won`t let you ... almost all decisions are timed , if you take to long it takes the one your mouse was over

>>104026463
This.
I liked the timed dialogues though, even if some times you wouldn't get the desired effect.

And actually the story's pretty decent considering what it takes its inspiration from.

But yeah, FUCK the gameplay. Some good ideas in it but ultimately it was half-assed. if you're making a game don't fuck up the part players will play 80% of the time.

also
>not liking Michael motherfucking Thorton

>/v/ bitches about linear rpgs giving no choice whatsoever
>shooty rpg comes out
>Is the most choice driven game to ever exist since planescape where everysingle thing you do ends up with everything changing in a multitude of ways depending on WHEN you did it and HOW.
>/v/ hates it because it's NOT LINEAR ENOUGH WAHHH.

Fuck you /v/. This was a good game. This was a good rpg. This wasn't the best game and had many faults but fuck you for shitting on it since it wasn't waifu simulator 10.3.

>>104027693
It doesn't give you 45 minutes. You get around 10 seconds per big decision. I have not been so fucking stressed and then so rewarded by a game in a while. It really helps with immersion by forcing you to choose in a few seconds then carrying on quickly.

i want this team to make a burn notice game, come on v/ you know you would play it.

I loved how you could make Thorton the way you wanted him to be, and he would react like that later on with no suddenly changing from paragon to renegade like in ME

>>104027948
/v/ is not a single entity im sorry you had to find out this way

>>104026328
>I've replayed this game like 3-4 times, just for exploiting all possibilities and still I'm not able to Kill Mardburg. That douche
Is that the one douchebag with the museum bombs?
Just answer Suave for every choice in his conversations.

>>104027609
Fucking consequences, man.
EVERYTHING INFLUENCES EVERYTHING.
Also turning up the radio.

>>104028051
I thought this game was going to let me make Michael Weston. Instead I got some guy and the only things I could customize were his shades and beard.

>>104027948
Linearity isn't a problem if the game has the gameplay to back it up. A product has to be good for me to buy it not just different.

No bugs, better VA for the PC, more customization, better shooting/cover system.

Even if they did all that I probably wouldn't buy it until there was a Steam sale.

>>104027693
There are right and wrongs. Well, mostly, "what you want to achieve" and "you fucked up".
But no Good/Bad. Only choices and consequences. On that part it's one of the best games

>>104028238
For me it didn't work out with suave
What I did instead was get him to 10 relationship, 100% details on him, and then at the AP facility I turned him against Halbech, and told Parker about his daughter
Got an engagement with him and was able to finally kill him, in my first playthrough he disappeared after talking to him at the AP facility, motherfucker

>10 seconds to make a decision
>MULTIPLE ENDINGS

one of the rewarding things about that game. Hated the VERY BLAND romance options. Would romance the FUCK out of the emo looking mute with twin revolvers instead.

Battle system was flawed, but with the PROPER TWEAKS could be very manageable. I think if they implemented it like Deus Ex and have more options for melee, it could be a very good classic in the making.

The story may have been typical clansyshit but the dialogues, emails and Heck were top notch.

>>104028249
Heck and his spiked cocaine, man... Heck, Steven, i love you.

>>104028459

Holy shit, props to a dev team realizing they don't have to can a series just because they fucked up.

Shame in this particular instance fucking up = the whole game being shit.

>>104027967
>>104028363
Going to download it, heard enough bad about it that I'm not quite willing to pay for it yet. Intriguing though, if i only had 10 seconds during some other decisions in other games.. fucking heart attack initiated tier

>>104028570

>>104028446
>>104028741

Fuck you romancefags. I hope it isn't present in the next game at all.

>>104028741
I'd rather have her full character development, we were left in the shadow with the whole locket thing

>>104028315
>...Michael Weston...
Yogurt eating simulator?

>get raped by russian cougar
>no one gives a shit because it´s female on male rape

This game had so many bro moments.
>Heck. All of him
>Albatross, specifically rescuing him at Brayko's
>Darcy

>>104028835
whats a spy game without getting the girl (or letting her die in the process?) They made romances work prior to Bioware's waifu simulator and this game didn't go down that route at the very least.

>>104029182
>Darcy
I wish i could bro with him after i go "rogue"...

>>104028315
>Instead I got some guy and the only things I could customize were his shades and beard

>Not playing as Presidente Thorton
I seriously hope you pendejos don't do this.

>Didn't bro up with Leland during the interrogation sequences only to break his hearth by refusing his offer
You don't know shite about vidja

>>104028446
Mina and Scarlett were meh as fuck, but you didn't enjoy getting your shit dominated by SIE? Sis is just a kid anyhow, and it's pretty obvious Mike sees her that way.

Also, for everyone that wants to play this game : tweaks if you're suttering hard

(Suttering fix)
In APEngine.ini (C:\Users\username\Documents\Alpha Protocol\APGame\Config), change the following settings:

UseBackgroundLevelStreaming=false
OnlyStreamInTextures=true
OneFrameThreadLag=False

Mouse tweaks.
set bEnableMouseSmoothing=False
in \Alpha Protocol\APGame\Config\DefaultInput.ini

Two places in this ini.
\My Documents\Alpha Protocol\APGame\Config\APInput.ini

(I don't think this one is needed but the source includes it)
Also set in \My Documents\Alpha Protocol\APGame\Config\APEngine.ini
the following:

[Engine.GameEngine]
bSmoothFrameRate=FALSE
MinSmoothedFrameRate=30
MaxSmoothedFrameRate=60

[SystemSettings]
UseVsync=False

>>104029429
>not accepting his offer and betraying him at the very end

>>104029545
That's pretty generic

>>104029476
I like madison..

The museum choice makes no sense. Even on veteran(2nd playthrough unlocked), i still can't save both things.
WHY?!

>>104025775
Wrong, the story was good. It was only the game breaking bugs and bad gameplay that stopped me from finishing it

>>104029581
and Badass

>>104029586
Because you aren't meant to save both things
Its either the character you might have gotten attached to, or hundreds of people

>>104029581
You some kind of hipster faggot?

>>104029492
THANK YOU
this game stutters like a bitch on my modern PC

>>104029631
More like cowards way out, real men stick to their convictions
>>104029653
>hipster
theresthatwordagain.jpg

Fuck no. Alpha Protocol sucked so much dick, it wasn't even funny.

http://free-pc-guides.com/games/difference-of-opinions-alpha-protocol-eu-vs-us-reviews-whos-right-an
d-whos-wrong-01928

just found this looking for info on the sequel, hope no shitstrom incoming

tl;dr american gaming journalists gameplay> story, european one the other way around .. also american journalists expected action game, europeans expected RPG

>>104029586
>find out the email just before
>choice
>"heh I won't fall for this one"
>YOU SON OF A BITCH

>>104029182

Really? That last one, anon? REALLY?!?

As soon as I discovered what he'd done and how much of a hot shit he started talking about being, I took great pride in slowly killing him. Hell, I trolled him hard by killing him with gadgets(i.e., grenades). Who's the specialist NOW, bitch?!?

Agreed about the romances...didn't mind the reporter chick, and SIE(merc) was also awesome. But yeah, if actual work is put into it, I would be optimistic about a sequel...

>>104029803
Yep...

>>104029764
Europeans know how to read and actually understand it.
Americans don't. Any game involving guns: must be CoD,Halo, counter-strike, Battlefield, etc.

>>104029732
that is where you are wrong my friend.
The story was good despite the bugs.

>>104029884
I agree, Darcy was a fucking annoying douchebag
I'm only sad you couldn't ruin his father's campaign

>>104029358
I demand a mod that gives presidente Thorton new dialogue choices and contacts

>>104030031
Haha, yeah. that would have been awesome.
>>104030099
Sadly, you most likely won't get it. There are no modding tools, or a modding community. Or so think, might be wrong, prove it!

>>104030099
Speaking of mods, kinda surprised there aren't any out there
The game runs on unreal engine no ? I thought it had a good SDK

talk about a pretty good idea ruined by fuck poor execution
playing the game gave me cancer
I was looking forward to it too

This one of the best RPGs to come out in years. Who cares about gameplay? The story was AMAZING!

>>104029884
That last one was a joke, that's why I spoilered it. Remember that photo in the safehouse?

I remember Obsidian promising a major patch, so where the fuck is it ?
Oh and, the game got a spotlight what with some recent steam sales, that should change sega's mind about a sequel
Oh and more and more people apparently realize the game is still good, despite its horrible flaws

>>104030506
>ohboyherewegoagain.tiff

>>104030536
Sean and Mike, FUCK YEAH!!!

>>104030208
;_; GIVE ME THAT DARCY OPTION.

I also wish we could have had the final mission like this:
>I saved Madison and the Museum
>Saved Albatross and the info
....
>Heck handling the crazy
>Albatross handling the silent takedowns
>Sis freeing me and then tag along
>SIE hitting them where it hurts
>Free Mina, forgive Scarlet, SIE saves Albatross with Heck.
>Get out with the whole band to Yancy and Leland,
They stay behind while i stealth my way up to Yancy
>they did the same, Leland is pinned down by Sie, Heck having his fun moments while Albatross interrogates him
>I interrogate Yancy
>Accept Leland's offer, group freaking out...
>Hand mine to Leland...
>SIE: Oh Michael, you and your tactics.
The whole group goes away on ship and has beer in the closest city.

>>104030189

That was actually the first time Heck annoyed the fuck out of me, because I got tagged for killing civvies because I didn't tell him "No casualties!". That being the case, I missed seeing him in action on the subway station.

For 2 playthroughs.

Finally got around to the third playthrough, and decided to take a chance on getting his help then...

HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU ARE THE BEST BROSKI EVER!!!

>>104030716
You can save Albatross and the info by playing a veteran

>>104030506
Yeah, the gameplay of a game that you play doesn't matter. Good luck in your future endeavors.

>>104030536

Ah, a joke. Ahahahahah. It was my fervent hope that was so...'cause personally, he deserved more than what I was able to do to him.

>>104030918
I know.
I was talking about the final mission mostly, and still being torn about the madison/museum choice...

>>104030716
I was a little mad that *everybody* didn't leave on the boat with Micheal, just whoever he fucked. PARTY @ MY BOAT

I'm also still mad I couldn't get the AP operatives to join me. Killing them broke my heart somewhat. Tranq'd Darcy's shit though because I really appreciated that photoshop and I think Mike may have been in homolove with him, because he just kept on putting his photo beside his bed.

>>104030832
he still shoots people even if you tell him no casualties. then mina whined at me for shooting guards IN SELF-DEFENSE even though she didn't say a word when i murdered an unarmed drugged up hooker just for fun

>>104031338
Well, you can certainly get Parker on your side. I don't know about Yancy and I think that Darcy is a dead man all the time.

>>104031346
I told him to casualties and had no problem, granted I did CQC the fuck out of everybody before he had a chance to drop them

YES

Alpha Protocol wasn't as bad as everyone claims it is.

>>104031505
>to casualties
Obviously meant
>no casualties
My bad

>>104031489
If you "kill" either Yancy or Darcy with your fists or tranq darts, they don't actually die.

>>104031489
Does he die if you get him on your side ?
I know I turned him against Marburg, but that wasn't really beneficial to the old mans health

>>104031489
Yancy is either handcuffed or killed, i think. Might be wrong, memory hazy, #AP again.
Darcy is deadcy, every time, because he's hellbent on stopping Mike.

>>104031338
yea, that would have been great, If you had every friendy who was in the greybox with you on the boat .. so possibly your handler+mina+the reporter.
if you go with leeland you both would ride alone of course .. who needs the peasants

>>104031346
>>104031505

Precisely what I did. What screwed me was when he fire bombed the lobby, 'cause I used the Chain Shot on some of the other guys nearby, so I had to manually line up my shot...and so they burned and died.

And really? Everytime I CQC'd or tranq'd a hooker, Mina always asked me "What the hell I was doing?".

I swear, I will do a 'no kills' run one of these days(always too tempted to kill the Taliban cunts).

>>104031346
If you just let him run riot and don't join in she doesn't disapprove. Or tranquilise/CQC their shit. I was running about like a nonlethal stealthninja for that mission since I got the Triad to replace the guards with rookies and I was feeling merciful.

Fuck i didn't know you can get everyone in the end on the boat. I only had Scarlett, i guess Mike proceeded to fuck her silly, so everything really DID go better than expected.

>>104031928
Thing is: you can't. That's the problem.

Makes little to no sense.

>>104031842
>hooker
I saw this a few times already in this thread and I'm pretty confused
There's a hooker in this game ? and how the hell did I miss it
Oh and, I bro'd up with the Taliban cunts, Shaheed was quite the reasonable guy

Loved the game.

I don't even remember encountering any bugs, so I have no clue how people could find "so many that it turned the game into a trainwreck".

FUCK YES BROS I FUCKING LOVED ALPHA BROTOCOL

I grew attached to the characters even if some were downright retarded (Steven Heck)

And yes I suck huge Chris Avellone cock

shitty title screen music though. WOB WOB WOB WOB WOB WOB

>>104031842
>that feel when slitting mad terrorist throat

>>104032090
>Steven Heck
>retarded
>not completely awesome batshit insane bromanov
WHY?

There can never be too much Alpha Protocol.

>>104025558
>Playing games from Obsidian
I seriously hope etc etc

>>104031842
>>104032056
the mission where you meet sis for the first time. the guy you have to kill has a ho with him, and mina gives no fucks if you slit her throat.

maybe my shit was just bugged though. no matter what settings i tried, nothing fixed the marketplace lag and the camera going apeshit when it loaded a new area.

which is really a shame, i'd give it a 2nd playthrough if it weren't for that.

>>104032056
probably the hooker in the russian mobster yacht

and yea, I teamed up with shaheed because he seemed so resonable and only afterwards realised what I had done. Still leaving him alive in the beginnig is right .. teaming up afterwards only if you go with the I rule alone ending

>>104032056
>Shaheed was quite the reasonable guy
Pretty much. I'd bro up with him too but he was too much bent on MURRIKA EVUL and in my playthrough I wasn't planning on going full on rouge so I got him only to show evidence against Halbech.

>>104031023
yeah and people who care about the gameplay are as bad as people who care about the graphics. Fucking casuals like you are ruining the industry. Put down the controller, find another hobby please.

>>104032056
I really gotta team up with the terrorists one of these days, but asking Shaheed if he ever played that game as a kid where he thought he could fly then being all trololol and hurling him off the bridge...it's just something I enjoy too much every single time.

>>104032090

Seconding the WHY?!? about Heck.

>>104032056

There's several, dude. One on Lazo's boat, one in Brayko's mansion, and probably another one or two where I don't remember...not sure how you missed them.

>>104032117

You gawddamn right, bro.

In typical Obsidian fashion the game had a great story and characters with terrible glitches and sloppy gameplay. But the choice system was well implemented and when I got going it was hard to stop.

Also, turn up the radio was one of the boss fights of the year.

>>104031338
>I think Mike may have been in homolove with him, because he just kept on putting his photo beside his bed.

can't unthink

A sequel based in the world Thorton made with his choices (and possibly with him as either a huge bro ally or endboss for you) would be glorious. Especially if they go for more customisation (maybe even with gender) with an ME-style face generator and more branching stories/consequences.

I realy liked the contacts system ...
Awesome idea that takes little resources to implement but realy gives you the feel that your actions mean something and you gain power beyond your shooting skills

If they put in gameplay that isn't pisspoor while still preserving the spy motiff, I will give them all my monies

Just copy everything from DE:HR you fucks

Never has a game had more potential but just been so utterly shithouse than AP

>Play through game 4+ times
>Love it
>Have no problems with bugs ever
>90% of complaints on /v/ are about bugs everywhere

>>104033193

Yeah I agree, even though I had no idea what was going on with the story, I really enjoyed the spy elements. They just fucked up the gameplay so fucking badly.

I played AP and it fucking sucked. There is my verdict. I ACTUALLY PLAYED IT. I got it free from some dixons shit. I liked the beginning, and i thought the game would steadily improve, but it didn't, it just kept the same formula. And fucking hell the characters, plain simple archetypes.

That one mission made me lol where i chucked the terrorist off the bridge. Fucking obsidian and their retarded dialogue system. I chose the option where it said forgive, but i still chucked him off the bridge.

Glitches/bugs aside, I really don't see how anyone could NOT have had fun while playing Alpha Protocol. It's completely open to however way you want to play it. Every decision you make, which is brilliantly enhanced by having a time-limit of only a couple of seconds to increase the intensity of making a choice, ends up influencing the flow of the rest of the game.

Despite its linearity in mission structure, who you choose to align yourself with vastly changes the narrative of the game. Having the option of aligning with different factions as you play allows you to mix it up as you go along and is vastly superior to other comparable games in its genre.

I went with stealth/pistols/gadgets and had an awesome time playing as the unstoppable, badass Mike Thorton who simply didn't give a shit about following anyone's orders and had a grand time doing so. Sneaking around buildings and neutralizing grunts left and right while headshotting them from behind cover, while utilizing pre-purchased dossiers to get an advantage on the field, such as q conveniently placed sniper rifle drop, a display of enemy locations on the map and info on a hidden stash of money which I could use to spend on more badass weaponry/suits/upgrades.

All groups involved with Alpha Protocol took risks in breaking new ground. It is unfortunate it needed more time for polish, but what is there is remarkably fun and will be guaranteed to become a cult classic in the years to follow.

>>104033224
Yeah, this is getting irritating.

Are you retards just repeating stuff some half-assed review sites preached or what?

Or is this shit coming from console gamers?

i liked this game. i hated the boss fights. fucking dozens of magazines of ammo pumped into some faggots torso and he still wont die? fuck that.

>>104033224
Same here. Although I did play it on xbox.

>>104033736
You know what's getting boring. In every thread about a shit game, there are some retards who rush to it's defense because lol obscurity. Fucking just accept criticism and the fact that the game is shit. It's not your fault it's shit, it's the developers. Stop being a baby. I played the game, lost interest after about 5 hours and uninstalled. The levels were copy pasted, it had literally no immersion in a game where immersion and story was key. And man, the game breaking bugs, holy moly. And don't get me started on that broken stealth system.

Inb4 greentexting every sentence and saying LOL NOPE.

Even the conversation system was shit. I think they were taking it in the right direction, but there were too few points where you could change it, and the characters were all boring anyway.

>>104033736
Think it's because the conversation wheel was something distinctive to Mass Effect and as much as they hate to admit, /v/ was all over Bioware cock around ME's release so I guess it's a first impression thing. I actually didn't feel it was anything like ME.

>>104033935
all the bossfights?
because maybe you should turn up the radio

but sure they were kind of lame ... and if you had chain shot over in 3 seconds

>>104034110
>The levels were copy pasted,
LOL NOPE
>it had literally no immersion
Immersion is entirely subjective.
>the game breaking bugs,
LOL NOPE
>And don't get me started on that broken stealth system.
Finally a valid complaint.

>>104034110
If you talk about bugs, list some.
I can only remember one of the pistol skills being overpowered and that's it.

I'm not defending the game, I'm just curious as to which bugs everyone's talking about.

>>104032117
>implying they're terrorists

Holy shit I'll take ten copies!

YES

OH GOD I WANT A SEQUEL SO MUCH

YESSSSSS

Fuck yes! I want a sequel! please Obsidian!

>>104026046
NO! FUCK OFF!

I bought my friend on Steam this game and he still hasn't even touched it.

>>104034110
I think you failed to adress the key point in the post you replied to

many people here wonder why they found no or few bugs, while /v/ is screaming that it is the most buggy thing evar

And jesus. That cliched spy plot. And dem bland ass character stereotypes. Made me snooze real good.

I lol'd at the plastic faces on the TV screen, were they always high?

>>104033344
>And fucking hell the characters, plain simple archetypes.

Sorry what

Name these archetypes

>>104034110
>Opinions = fact

>>104034183
>>104034110
Your opinion is fine, but you're the one blinding yourself by persistently saying it's complete shit.
Some of us really liked the conversation system, the branching choices, the characters and the story.
If you look closely at the posts we pretty much all admit the game was broken.

TL;DR we enjoyed the game, deal with it

>>104034515
Originally it was going to be more Mass Effect 2 style (and before ME2 had been released).
http://www.nuevebits.com/?p=1768
>Agonz: It’s a fact that the reviews about Alpha Protocol were quite hard, to say the least. How much of it do you think it was due to the fact that even though AP looks like a shooter, it is an action RPG?
>CFA: You’ve summed it up in the last question, all that’s only a part of it. AP represents a disconnect between what it looks like on screen vs. how it plays out – as an example, one of our design mandates from SEGA was that your gun skill effects your targeting and spread, which is something our studio is very much against, and you can see the consequences of that discrepancy in a number of mandated system mechanics in the game. Players don’t want invisible numbers in the background modifying what they’re physically doing on screen – if you have your cursor lined up, you should shoot where the cursor is pointing. Design decisions like that add up.

YES GIVE ME A 2ND ONE BUT DONT HAVE THOSE FUCKING RETARDED BOSSES. Great game, I've enjoyed it so much, but MAKE IT SANDBOX. It's a fucking stealth game, I want options.

>>104031842
I did a no kill run

Nothing changed, sadly

I've had one bug in the entire game, the game once decided to go back to fullscreen when I was in windowed mode. That's all! One bug. I really don't get why people say it was so buggy.

>>104034832
I had no bugs in either of my two playthroughs on the PC version

Was the console version the buggy one?

Imagine if they included a Steven Heck expansion where you got to relive the time he stuffed Communion waffers down a Jesuit agents throat. Or the even Operation AAAAAHHH!

>>104034789
You get pacifist-related perks.

>>104034619
Stereotypical strong big breasted women
Stereotypical terrorists
Stereotypical evil agents
Stereotypical love interests (mysterious and hard to get oooooooooooooo)
Stereotypical goth chick (wow this is getting boring)

And finally that protagonist. THE MOST LIFELESS PROTAGONIST IN A GAME YET. FUCKING MR.GREY.

>>104034334
THE BUGS MASON! WHERE ARE THEY???

I have to admit while the game was glaringly incomplete at certain moments - there was definitely a far larger G22|Sis story arc planned - I had an absolute blast playing it.
The gameplay was imho a lot better than ME and you actually could aproach situations different. Didn't really encounter any bugs either as far as I know.

I loved this game. Honestly. Didn't experience a single truly game-breaking bug in 4-5 playthroughs.

I will agree that stealth (kills) are broken, though. Running up to a guard and karate chopping him down in a single hit undetected? Yeah, real spy-like there.

But I honestly liked the conversations, the characters, the environment and, most of all, the way the game gave me a choice of espionage tactics.

Sure, it may have been a choice between all-out James Bond "Espionage" and less shooting-oriented stealth-killing espionage, but it still had enough variety to me.

If they make Alpha Protocol 2, I'd probably play it. I mean, the original left me a bit unsatisfied with most endings, and I'd like to see them taken further.

>>104034979
Didn't use the Suave or Brutish dialogue options.

Even if you hated this game, you must admit that it REALLY needs a sequel so they can fix the poor design choices and make a great game.

It was SO close to being an absolute classic, but a few bad design choices and typical obsidian bugs ruined it for a lot of people.

Interesting fact about this game: Europe liked it more than America, PC gamers/magazines liked it more than Console gamers/magazines

Not baiting or anything, it's quite interesting because it shows how differently those demographics judge games

>>104035138
>obsidian
>polishing games

Yeah good luck with that.

If you guys liked the story in Alpha Protocol, you should try reading some shit like Tom Clancey. It'll blow your mind.

And imagine that I wrote "shit" in a font that implies I'm being sneeringly condescending.

>>104034979
stereotypical terorists? realy?

As far as I remember terrorist are stupid hurkadurka fucks in most of modern media .. not charismatic guys who keep their word if you trust tehm

>>104034932
Why does everyone like Heck

The moment I saw him I looked for the STOP, EVILDOER! dialogue option and it just wasn't there

So I was just a dick to him and was happy when he betrayed me

>>104034579
>cliched spy plot
So, an agent that was just used by the... spy... company whatever he was in to succesfully disrupt terrorist operations and then cover up everything by bombing the shit out of him, and then discovers that a corporation had a hand at it and that same corporation is trying to start another cold war but will fail miserably and they will start WWIII and only the "rogue" agent can stop them using resources from the same employers that betrayed him while leaking the corporations actions to the world and allying with other people is cliche?

>>104034979
>Mike Thorton
>Lifeless
He was Jason Bourne, James Bond, and Jack Bauer rolled into one. The hell are you talking about?

I like stealth games, more would be great.

Also half the people in this thread haven't played more than 10 minutes, yet they feel their opinion is worth a damn. Kinda sad

>>104035295
Dungeon Siege 3 was polished on consoles and is now polished on PC after the first patch.

I don't know why Obsidian insists on making games. They should just hire themselves out as writers or story consultants. They can't actually do anything that involves programming or gameplay or balance.

>>104035306
That draw to the tom clancy franchise is that they have believable plots. Or had any way. That shit they have now is a joke. It isn't THE BEST STORY EVER COMPOSED IN A VIDEO GAME TIER, but it's high up there. Dem Splinter Cell plot lines

>>104035506
It's quite strange, like when they split they took all of the writers but left all of the programmers/designers

Or maybe it was just a certain personality type was more inclined to work with them

>>104035506
See >>104035495
Now that they're working with their own tech it's going to be smoother sailing. And New Vegas had better gameplay and balance than Fallout 3.

>>104034979

Big breast woman (SIE, I guess?) is actually a long-time mercenary who is more interested in arrogant agents than those who respect her. Kind of the opposite of the "strong, independent" woman archetype.

Terrorists: well, how else are you going to represent them? You either have Middle-East terrorists with beards and masks or Russian terrorists with vodka and masks. Seriously, go complain in a MW2 thread somewhere.

Evil agents: Alpha Protocol agents aren't evil; they're guided by Halbech. Loophole says they have to follow orders, regardless of intention. So when Halbech decides to take over, the agents HAVE to follow.

Love interests: I agree here, these didn't even need to be here. SIE, Mina, Madison... they were all pretty weird love interests, save perhaps Mina for the time you've spent with her regardless of mission choice.

And finally: regular Goth chicks would be whining about how life sucks, being an agent sucks, being restrained sucks etc. Sis is mute, which means Albatross is her direct translator and contact, which makes her all but stereotype.

Next time, please do the research before you take a crack at this.

This picture can be applied perfectly to those who liked alpha protocol.

And to the retards in denial. Here's a 10 minute video of your "bug free game".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npW0G9O4fF0

There's a cult following for every piece of shit out there, it's just sad when the followers are exactly the same.

>>104035623
I see you never actually played Fallout 2 and Torment on release. They were buggy, extraordinarily so. IWD series doesn't count, they were simple linear dungeon crawls.

>>104035332
He fucking mounts a minigun on a subway train and clears out an entire room full of Chinese agents for you. He spikes Brayko's cocaine with rat poison for you. He even sets a VCi soldier on fire for offering millions of dollars for your head. And finally he breaks you out of the AP facility while causing mayhem and then tells you crazy conspiracy stories while both of you sail the seas.

It has the words Alpha and pro in it OP, what the fuck do you think?
It also has the best bossfight in vidya in the last 5 years.
But honestly it's a quite fun game and cheap as fuck now, I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed ME2.

I swear to god if they have another brayko type fight in there I will go up there and kick them in their face.

>>104035364
>So, an agent that was just used by the... spy... company whatever he was in to succesfully disrupt terrorist operations and then cover up everything by bombing the shit out of him, and then discovers that a corporation had a hand at it and that same corporation is trying to start another cold war but will fail miserably and they will start WWIII and only the "rogue" agent can stop them using resources from the same employers that betrayed him while leaking the corporations actions to the world and allying with other people is cliche?

Funnily enough, in the world of Spy Thrillers, it actually is.

>Complaining about timed dialog
It was meant to make conversations feel natural. No one has a discussion where they let you take 20 minutes to choose what to say.

>>104035364
>So, an agent that was just used by the... spy... company whatever he was in to succesfully disrupt terrorist operations and then cover up everything by bombing the shit out of him, and then discovers that a corporation had a hand at it and that same corporation is trying to start another cold war but will fail miserably and they will start WWIII and only the "rogue" agent can stop them using resources from the same employers that betrayed him while leaking the corporations actions to the world and allying with other people is cliche?

IT'S LIKE YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT TOM CLANCY IS. Shit, play any splinter cell game and it has the EXACT same story. Fucking idiot, read up on your shit before typing.

>>104034979
>Stereotypical strong big breasted women
over 40
speaks in a fucked up DDR accent
actualy in charge of operations and not just threated as badass by others but still saved by the hero at the slightest opposition

>>104035763
Generalisations are for idiots

None of us encountered these bugs, and hence it is totally reasonable for us to judge the game without consideration of them, because they were NOT part of our experience.

Are you telling me you don't like a single unpopular game? Are you seriously telling me it's reasonable to state that everyone who likes an unpopular game is wrong?

Or are you just making exceptions for your own opinions and trying to enforce them on others?

It's the latter, in case you're thick

>ctrl+f "burn notice"
> 1 result

Well, that was a really nice surprise. Either way take hints from Burn Notice and this could be a hell of a game.

Scott Sharkey gave it a B+ which is good enough for me

I found the gameplay to be mostly fine in AP. They just needed to fix all the bugs and polish it, improve the stealth, and add more options for diplomacy.
When it first came out I played through it and did a 0 kill run, and yet people still kept getting shitty with me for "killing" those poor guards I tranq'd to get past.

The dialogue options was easily the best part. Failing trying to get on the bad guy's good side, you could opt to try and piss them off as much as possible so they make mistakes due to how much they hate you. That shit was fucking brilliant.
If AP2 could be to AP like Assassin's Creed 2 was to AC, it would be amazing.

Am I the only one who loved Brayko? That dude is hilarious man. Him and that Steven, most awesome characters.

>>104035763
Sorry, I have to say Alpha protocol was alot better than conviction, Though co-op would have been fucking awesome for it. I bought Alpha Protocol during the steam sale, and I've only encountered one bug in the starting level where the gun was being held the wrong way. Aside from that, it's been bug free for the entire game. Now the stealth was hokey, but regardless, it was more stealth than conviction had.

>>104035763

I have not encountered ANY of the bugs in this video in all of my playthroughs.

Literally everything that is mentioned there is a result of bad PC/ console performance or bad play (using SMGs to take down an enemy at anywhere past close range?).

All that video shows is how to balance your skills and weapons, not the bugs this game faces, which are largely related to user-based actions in my experience.

Now I'll wait for you to come back with yet another bug and glitch video of someone desperately trying to glitch through a game and then blame it on the developers.

>Alpha Brotocol 2
>Thornton is your boss for your new character
>Mina is canon love interest
>Do missions for Thornton
>Eventually steal Mina from Thornton
>Sub-boss fight at the end of the game is the main character vs. Thornton in a fistfight in the back of a cargo plane

>>104026283
>quitting game because you can't figure out how to hack
>DURRR LOOK AT ME I'M TOO RETARDED TO FIND A ROW OF TEXT THAT DOESN'T MOVE LIKE THE REST

>>104036212
I did. He was a total bro. We payed Sergei a little visit since he wanted us both dead.

>>104036173
>When it first came out I played through it and did a 0 kill run, and yet people still kept getting shitty with me for "killing" those poor guards I tranq'd to get past.

That was a stupid design choice rather than a glitch

How it works is, in that mission in the embassy, you are supposed to NOT HELP the guards fight off the attackers. If you engage in the combat you are for some reason held responsible for any deaths by the game.

It was really dumb and I was pissed at the end when the game gave me shit for it, when my motivation was saving them.

>>104035650
Not really, its still the same gameplay with modding and crafting added and it was and still is a buggier game than Fallout 3. Don't deny this because you can't. They are already up to like the 7th patch and it still has a lot of bugs despite fixing over 200 bugs since release.

I know someone is going to misunderstand and think I'm saying Fallout 3 is better, it's not, but gameplay wise it's much more solid.

Obsidian can write a great story, but again, they can't handle the technical details well enough for me to support their games at full price or even bargain bin prices. They shouldn't make games if they can't do it well.

>>104036370
Computer hacking is one of the worst headache-inducing minigames ever conceived, I loaded up on EMPs for those.

>>104036359
Heh Thornton. Clever.
Besides I thought Thorton went rogue or became the CEO of Halbech?

>>104036173
>f AP2 could be to AP like Assassin's Creed 2 was to AC, it would be amazing.
You have no idea how many times I would pre order this. ALL OF M FUCKING MONEY.