>>33252560 (OP)
I really enjoyed it. A film on the shortlist that is awesome to watch while drinking.

>>33252560 (OP)
>the last nigger starring Tom Hanks

>>33252630
No, that's Cloud Atlas

>>33252630

The other guy was the last samurai.

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>tfw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQu22qIlErU

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it was great

this was better

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Perfect...they are all perfect.

>people call the film prejudiced because the "Last Samurai" is Tom Cruise, who is a white American
>they inadvertently give away their own prejudices by assuming the film ever implied Tom Cruise was the "Last Samurai"

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was tom cruise 'the last samurai' or was the group of men he was a part of 'the last samurai'?

>>33252804

Latter

>>33252775
THIS, bigtime.

>>33252775
>>33252829
>>33252704

Yeah this, it really pisses me off when people say it glorifies him when if anything it is a giant criticism of Western society.

>>33252804
it was watanabe's character who was the last samurai

>>33252804
He was the last samurai, just like Daniel Day Lewis was the last of the Mohicans

the actual last mohican was chingachgook

Good feels, good characters, cool battles. All around solid epic. Maybe a little to "okay" but still it's a movie I would re-watch.

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The Last Nigga on Earth
starring Jackie Chan

Fantastic film.

Even though it was the same Dances with Wolves/Avatar/Pocahontas type of thing it was different enough that it worked. Would have liked it to be closer to history but whatever, more romantic this way, I guess.

One thing I didn't like was the romance between cruise and Katsumoto's sister, It should have been enough that she forgave him.But it didn't intrude so it's ok.

It's real good.
It's no Dances with Wolves, but it's good.
I can understand why japs feel there's a racist undertone. Of course the one white guy would be the only survivor in a Samurai village. ;P

>>33253078
see:
>>33252775

You fucking moron.

>>33253078
The Japanese loved the movie. It was Western critics that thought it had racist overtones.

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liked it

>great depiction of samurai
>watanabe is a great actor
>cruise is a good actor
>all dat gorgeous visuals
>nice battle scenes
>dat bushido

even if the white man had to take centre stage for such a movie like this to be made it was nice to see such a lush period piece about my homelando great nippon

>>33252775
ok pcbitch....so who was the real last samurai?
you should've been part of the marketing campaign so everyone on Earth could've been set straight.

>>33253122
but the white man did not tale centre stage. the samurai and their customs did

>>33253122
are you chinese or japanese?

>>33253129
It can either be seen as they were all the last samurai (plural) in that village, or Matsumoto was the last samurai. The title is not in reference to the last character alive at the end of the film you idiot.

>>33253129

Watanbe's character embodied the end of the samurai era, Cruise was merely an observer to it.

>>33252804

I can't remember if Tom Cruise was an actual certified Samurai after his stay (I doubt it) or if he just got to learn their ways a bit and be a guest of honor at the final battle. But there was no literal "Last Samurai". Obviously there would be a few stragglers scattered throughout Japan who were still Samurai, and so it's unlikely Tom Cruise would outlive every single one until he was the actual last samurai.

The point was that the Last Samurai was an honorary title that Ken Watanabe's character earned, because he led the last wave of resistance and died in battle. Compare it to the title "Last of the Romans" which has been applied to Aetius and Belisarius, neither of which came close to being the actual last of their kind.

Then there's the possibility that the Last Samurai is meant to be interpreted as plural, which means it was applicable to the entire group.

>>33253122
Nips love this movie.

>>33253274
>Ronin

>>33253078

Other people have pointed out why you're an idiot, but the whole reason he lived is that they wanted all the others to die but they were willing to pick him up and treat his wounds, because he was a westerner and the bad guys had hard-ons for westerners.

>>33252775
how in the fuck do people even arrive at that conclusion
WTF

>>33253378
he was the last one alive. Every one else died in the final battle.

>>33253378
You underestimate how stupid some people are.

>>33252775

>call it the Last Samurai
>put token white man on front cover
>get mad when people make the obvious conncetion

>>33253417
yes but he was never a samurai or even implied that he was

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>>33253417
>>33253427

>>33253417
Why do trips always reinforce the stereotype that they are fucking retarded?

>>33253465
when he fought for and earned his sword, he was taken into the samurai brotherhood. You are never allowed in, you fight your way in. Just like Batiatus's ludus in Spartacus.

>>33253417
He wasn't samurai though. also samurai is plural. it was a story about the last samurai.

>>33253378

>film is called Last Samurai
>has Cruise on all the posters dressed as a samurai

That's why.

I might be wrong but I assume the marketing was different in Japan. I imagine the posters would all be like OP's pic, where Ken Watanabe is standing next to Tom Cruise and all the Japs would assume he was the actual last samurai and Tom Cruise was just the observer character meant to give the western audience a protaganist they can understand and see through the eyes of.

Either way, everything ranging from the film's name to the posters are all handled by a different department than the actual artists. The film itself is just about an American who witnesses a bunch of samurai die and he fails to make an actual impact on the overall course of events.

>>33253520
>using Spartacus as anything

>>33253492

It wouldn't be a stereotype if there wasn't at least some statistical significance.

Contrary to popular conception, the title of the film does not refer to Nathan Algren as the Last Samurai. The word "Samurai" here is in its plural form and is actually referring to Katsumoto's clan as a whole.

>>33253078
>It's real good.
It's no Dances with Wolves, but it's good.
I can understand why japs feel there's a racist undertone. Of course the one white guy would be the only survivor in a Samurai village. ;P
> ;P

are you trying to make me mad on purpose?

>>33252560 (OP)
>One of the only ones I've actually enjoyed Tom Cruise in

Seconded. I love this movie so hard and was genuinely surprised it didn't get more Oscar love than it did.

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>>33253186
>The protag is cruise
>thew pow is cruise's
>the pivotal decisions are taken or heavily influenced by cruise
>cruise gets the love interest

>>33253214
half jap

>>33253302
Yes they did, to be honest most japanese movies are quite mediocre so americans doing a good samurai flick was great.

>>33253622
they dont(japs thinking it has racist undertones)

Fucking Great. I can watch it again and again. Cruise is great, Watanabe is great, Zimmer is great, the village itself is great. And yes, the last samurai is Watanabe because he died on the battlefield like a samurai should. Still waiting for Zwick to make another film as good as it.

would you say it's comparable to something like... lets say, Gladiator or Master and Commander

>>33253566
If all you did was look at the poster you might get that impression, but if you had actually watched the film and had an iota of intelligence in your brain then you could work out otherwise.

>>33253653
have you guys seen collateral?

>>33253700
Better than Gladiator, not as good as Master and Commander. But yes, those are two films similar to it.

>>33253721
One of the more talked about movies on /tv/. People love Mann and they loved Cruise in it.

>>33253745
Russel Crowe is a faggot. If I could fight any actor he would be the second one I would choose.

>>33253721
No, actually. One of those ones I never got around to watching, maybe I should.

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If Tom Cruise was an actual samurai he would've kept fighting, committed seppuku, or something. But he wasn't. At the end of the film it was very clear that he was still "the American" and he just retired to being an unknown farmer so he could continue destroying that pussy.

>>33253673
I really don't think Zwick can outdo it considering the rest of his films.

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>Tom Cruise
>Not the greatest actor of all time with the greatest love for his fans

>>33253898

He's just so overexposed by the media.

>>33253898
Shame he's kinda crazy.

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>Tfw Tom Cruise goes to his premier but never enters the cinema and instead spends the next few hours signing autographs and talking with fans

>>33253793
do it, best cruise ever. Great fox too, he has gotten a bit shit and full of him self since he got big but and cruise acts the shit out of this movie.

>>33253961
>knight-and-day
I wouldn't want to watch it either.

>>33254007

Wine and milk. Wine and milk.