>>34835482 (OP)
I didn't see it, but it certainly looked like shit. I've seen the trailer non-stop.

Johnny Depps best roll in the last few years was his 3 minutes in 21 Jump Street

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>>34835482 (OP)
>We made yet another giant explodey reboot, how could we fail?!

How retarded can you be?

>>34835512
>asking how retarded Disney can be

Have you seen things they've released?

What kind of fucking justification is that? So throw a bunch of money and talent at something and it's guaranteed success? Fucking idiot.

>At least they can admit they fucked up I guess?

At least they aren't going to grasp at straws

Movies need to stop making JD play Jack Sparrow in their films and thinking that's enough to sell tickets. They got lucky with Pirates, stop trying to do it again and again.

It looked like Pirates without water

nobody wants to watch a fucking western. what idiot though this would actually be a summer blockbuster?

how the fuck did he go from things like "whats eating gilbert grape" to this bullshit, seriously man
Also why dont producers realize all this CGI is the fucking problem, jesus christ

>>34835541
>being surprised this is how big executives think

Welcome to the world, enjoy your stay

>>34835502
Depp in 21 jumps street's the only think I ever liked him in. Even better that he dies

>>34835551
>nobody wants to watch a fucking western riddled with cgi and explosions and bullshit that doesnt fir the time period
fixd that for you

>>34835502
The marketing was totally banking on people wanting to see Depp play another deadpan oddball, and when it turns out people are sick of it they had nothing else to get people to come. I don't think I saw Armie Hammer in one tv spot

I BLAME PIRACY

>>34835541
>throw a bunch of money and talent at something and it's guaranteed success

Welcome to Hollywood Son!

But seriously, yes, this is Hollywood protocol 101, and has been for decades, it's hardly surprising.

lol @ Disney.

Spending ridiculous amount of budget money and then wondering why you're not making any profits.

>>34835570
Nah no one wants to watch a Western period, accept it bro.

>>34835580
I do.

>>34835570
Was that Cowboys and Aliens excuse too? Because that did horrible as well

>>34835541
I am more shocked that this is still like a surprise to some people.

>>34835541
I could write better scrips then most of the critical successful movies of the last 10 years. I am a terrible writer and write fan fics.

The problem with the lone ranger is that it just isn't popular anymore
old people might go watch it, but young people have probably never heard of him, they wouldn't care

$250 million on this shit?
what the fuck are these niggers thinking?
wouldn't 50 million suffice for a movie about a guy riding a horse and getting on a train?

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Seriously? They thought people couldn't wait for a Lone Ranger reboot?

They do realize most Lone Ranger fans are either dead or in nursing homes, right?

This could have easily, EASILY made a ton of money but they fucked up in numerous ways. It has nothing to to with JD, but the horrible script and direction they took the story.

I'd be more delighted by this movie bombing if I wasn't aware that the main people who are going to suffer are technicians, makeup artists, costume designers, CGI artists, set designers and extras.

The hot-shot producers and directors who are responsible for continuing to crank out these abortions aren't going to lose a fucking dime.

>>34835595
cowboys vs aliens is another example, westerns are hard to sell as it is and they go and throw all that bullshit into it.

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>You take a classic franchise, team the world's most successful producer, an award-winning director and the biggest movie star in the world

You forgot something:

A good fucking writer.

>>34835636
Have you see that epic train scene and epic explosion on that bridge? That was probably the whole budget. And it seems like half the movie, since that's the only thing they fucking show in the horrid trailer.

>>34835636
$50 million? That's probably Depps pay alone nigga.

>>34835644
>but the horrible script and direction they took the story.

this is irrelevant really. 90% of people that show up to theaters don't give a shit about this

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Good, maybe Disney will wake the fuck up.

They make one good film off of a ride in a theme park and think they are big and bad.
They should stick with fairy tale shit.

It amazes me that Disney own Marvel who produces such a huge bank for them and they don't take any lessons from Avengers or Iron Man. It also amazes me that Gore Verbinski can be so fucking retarded not to see why Pirates 1 worked and people generally dislike (but tolerate) the other Pirates movies.

so... everybody's excited for Star Wars, right?

>>34835667
Do they count actors pay in the budget numbers?

I honestly have no idea, I thought they excluded it.

I haven't seen it yet, but I think people are starting to grow tired of watching Depp play the oddball, outthere, weird character

>>34835624
>>34835636
fucking this.

I'm in my 20s and while I've heard of the Lone Ranger, I don't actually know jack shit about him. Imagine how much worse the fucking teen audience they were marketing towards would be.

Remakes and adaptations of dead-and-buried intellectual properties need to fucking die.

>>34835677
I loved the second one, after that I don't even know, the script is literally "how many jokes can we re use and how many times can Depp sneer in one scene"

>>34835645
Who cares? That horde of people is literally useless.

>>34835674
They were big and bad before that.

Disney won't lose any money because their main studio's film bombed. Take a look some time at all the media conglomerates they own.

>>34835688
Why would they? That's part of the fucking budget.

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>casting William "wait, wasn't that guy in The Dark Knight for like 3 minutes?" Fichtner as the main villain

>>34835660
>A good fucking writer.

The worst part is, execs tend to think: "If we hire more writers, the script will be better!"

All the biggest blunders in the past decade have had at least 2, usually 3 writers attached to them.

>>34835688
Well it's part of the film, so yes.

They don't count marketing, but that's part of the post production budget, which is a whole different thing

>>34835645
Yeah, actually that is kind of upsetting, seeing how it's hard to get into those positions in the first place and they actually work hard, harder then some of the actors who half ass their way through and make 10x what they make.

I do feel bad everytime a bad film comes out, because it's exec morons who are like "oh well lol we tried but hey I still made bank!"

>>34835670
are you fuckign stupid? are ou saying that people have to care about a script and direction adn its not the direction that can make a more competent movie and a script that can engage the audience better? wtf are you even saying you stupid fuck

>>34835645
such is the case with everything. People might be overjoyed when a big bank or corporation gets hit hard by the justice system for being cunts, but unless the big executives actually see jail time, they don't suffer even slightly. They just cut their losses by firing thousands of the work-a-day employees who had nothing to do with the company acting like cunts in the first place.

>>34835677
What lesson would that be?

The real question is how does M night have enough money to pay Will Smith, but Roland doesn't for ID 2?

>>34835724
It gets worse. He's playing Shredder in the new TMNT movie.

>>34835704
do you enjoy watching movies? Those people are required for movies to exist.

>>34835732
I see

>>34835715
Didn't know that, hence me asking. Calm down

>>34835551
>>34835551
>>34835551
>>34835551
>>34835551
this

1. stop paying actors so much
2. stop making CGI shitfests
3. don't bank on your movie being a success
4. use and actor who is know fro more than 1 successful roles as your lead
5. have johnny depp do something different,
6. don't put johnny and helena in the same fucking movie again,
7. maybe try and make the movie look different from what we are now too use to seeing in summer movies

>>34835763

No part for Jaden meant no deal.

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meanwhile, cartoons continue to rape shit

>>34835737
Wanna take another stab at that, aspie?

>>34835724
Who?

Holy fuck, it's hard to do worse than John carter

Also $250 million?
No way are they making that back

>>3483576
>how does M night have enough money to pay Will Smith

The directors don't pay the actors you dirty nigger, the studio pays the actors

I'd been losing patience with Depp for a long time, but this movie finally made me fucking hate him.

What a hypocritical, cum-sucking, overrated sellout piece of shit.

>>34835651
There's been other recently that you don't even hear about. No one cares for them, they need to stop trying to force it.

>>34835791

Fun entertaining movies continue to rape shit.

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>>34835724
>>34835771
>hating on Based Fichtner

one of the best character actors in the game

>>34835821
they all look the same to me

>>34835670
It's getting hammered by move goers, not just critics.

Turns out, you actually do need to have some form of a story and plot.

This movie flopping is actually a perfect example of how you're wrong. It's not like critics are the only people who saw it

>>34835763
It wasn't M. Night's project it was Will Smith's.

Smith hired M. Night not vice versa; Night was the only mid-profile director Smith could get to go along with the project.

>>34835840

Just another reason to renegotiate with Satan to get your soul back.

>>34835782
>1. stop paying actors so much
Too late
>2. stop making CGI shitfests
Tone it down, yes
>3. don't bank on your movie being a success
Yes
>4. use and actor who is know fro more than 1 successful roles as your lead
How do you expect them to be paid less then? And they do this anyway
>5. have johnny depp do something different,
Or have him do nothing and stay home
>6. don't put johnny and helena in the same fucking movie again,
Yes
>7. maybe try and make the movie look different from what we are now too use to seeing in summer movies
I blame Iron Man and Marvel homogenizing their movies, with everyone then copying sir successful look and tone

>>34835737
He's trying to say that people like mindless dumb popcorn flicks and stories don't matter to them because they are brain dead any way

Which is true to a degree, but plenty of movies have done horrible because of story.

The Lone Ranger is the latest of many

>>34835809
>but this movie finally made me fucking hate him.

That stupid fucking Alice movie was my point. hated his stupid crap ever since.

Wait, was that 4th Caribbean movie before or after that? Fuck it. Who cares?

>>34835795
you're a retard who thinks direction and scripts dont affect how a movie turns out and instead assume that people directly care about scripts and directors when they go see movies and not that they jsut like the movie if it was a good movie. But hey what makes a good movie? a good script adn a good director. Fucking asshat go back to tumblr or wherever the fuck you came from

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215 million dollars down the drain. For a pile of shit no one even wanted in the first place. This shit infuriates me beyond belief.

I saw more trailers and advertisements for Lone Ranger almost a year ago then I did the month leading up to the film.

I ended up seeing it with family. It was okay. Pretty slow and it was low on jokes (or rather, what few it had were beaten to death). Then for being as long as it was it really lacked any long action scenes - in fact there wasn't any. The first three were resolved in < 20 seconds and the final conclusion was just one big scheme, a few train jumping, and finally a brief gun fight.

It was basically POTC4 all over again.

>>34835705
>durr hurr

No shit.

And I know they were a name way before that, it's fucking Disney. But you can't watch this trailer, and read comments from execs like in OP, and not tell me this was them going "well we hit gold with Pirates let's basically rinse and repeat!"

>>34835726
It can work, but they actually have to have a chemistry and be able to tell each other when what they are doing is shit.

They probably all just pat each other on the back for every scene idea and "twist"

Westerns do well because of word-of-mouth.

True Grit, for example, was a huge success due to its release date and the great reception it got.

>>34835817
westerns are nice now and then, i dont mean that they're super cool or whatever and as it is theyre movies that take more time to be appreciated. Either way if you seriously think nobody enjoys westerns then youre jsut lying to yourself,

Funny that the best western in recent years is a fucking video game.

>>34835882
>down the drain

What do you mean? Tons of people, listed in the credits, got enough money to live on for a few years out of this deal, where before this money was just sitting in some corporation's coffers. There's a silver lining here.

>>34835882
>that gif
holy shit.... Im not even being racist but that guy is a gorilla

As an 18 year old, I can confirm I've never heard of Lone Ranger until this 'reboot', and then the trailers didn't interest me at all.

>>34835809
they put Depp on the cover of fucking Rolling Stone the other month wearing his oddball injun tonto redface minstrel costume. If you still needed proof that RS has become a completely irrelevant magazine well, that was pretty much it.

And the cover story was subtitled, I shit you not, 'An Outlaw looks back at 50'

Of all the musicians or celebrities that are currently putting out interesting work they could have featured on the cover, they devote a cover story to Johnny fucking Depp pretty much as his 50th birthday present.

And fuck you Depp, being friends with Kieth Richards and Hunter Thompson when he was alive and moving to France doesn't make you a fucking 'Outlaw'. Fake-ass rich bitch nigga.

Was Man of Steel and Into Darkness the only two blockbusters this year that didn't bomb?

I can't wait for Pacific Rim to bomb next.

>>34835882
>getting mad when a movie bombs

Dial it down some.

>>34835911
Nah, that's even how it is.

Usually, there's one main writer, and the other two guys are revisers, who may or may not even like/know each other.

>>34835888
Was pointing out that Pirates was not an ego-booster in any way shape or form. They just realized it was a crowd-pleasing formula and ran with it.

They've done it in the past. It's nothing new. They won't "learn their lesson" they'll just find a new formula to run into the dirt.

>we had all the ingredients here.

This is what's wrong with Hollywood.

nah

he's not even admitting that that box-ticking approach is flawed, he's just expressing surprise that it didn't work

I saw Lone Ranger and liked it. Better than White House Down and World War Z. It's an "entertaining" movie. It's not meant to be Oscar caliber.

>>34835941
hahahahah i love how everyone always forgets Iron Man 3

>>34835941

World War Z, Monsters University, The Great Gatsby and Iron Man 3 did all well

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>Westerns are hard to sell

Then why did Django do so well?

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What will Hollywood do when their tried and true system of appealing to key demographics, adapting established franchises, $20,000,000 marketing budgets, and over-the-top CGI no longer brings in the cash flow?

Seriously, what the fuck will Hollywood do then? Start using a magic eight ball?

I hope this is the start of the downfall of the big budget movies. Cut the budgets in half and bring back practical effects, we might actually get good movies again.

>>34835876
English isn't your first language, is it?

>>34835918
>Red Pleb Redemption

It's a fucking videogame. True Grit remake was better than that shit. It was just the same shitty GTA shit but with "MUH TUMBLEWEEDS" thrown in. Oh, and a cheap revenge story thrown in for good measure.

>>34835941

>Man of Steel
>ST Into Darkness

Only two summer movies that did bomb. IM3 is #5 gross of all time and Fast 6 did 700 million.

>>34835982
Tarantino.

>>34835982
because it exploited cultural taboos and it sold to the black masses who believe in all the stuff portrayed in the film as a reality. This is how QT is a competent movie maker, he knows how to please the brain dead masses

>>34835782
>1. stop paying actors so much
This is never going to happen. Learn how the business works.
May as well tell them to stop advertising too.
2. Lol
3. "I hope this fails" "you got that right John!"
>4. Johnny Depps only successful role is Pirates, said the 15 year old kid posting.
5. Playing different characters is different
6.You keep going on about this but..
7. You should join the industry and tear it down from inside

>>34835982
Because it's edgy personified.

>>34835982
>people watched Django because it was a western

Try again.

>>34835941
Iron Man did incredible

>>34835860
>blaming marvel and iron man

Hope you're joking

>>34835987
they'll stop making movies, because they literally don't have any fucking ideas beyond that shit.

>>34835982
Tarantino and edginess is automatic profit.

>>34835931
>still reading magazines
All US-based magazines became irrelevant in the 21st century with the advent of the internet. They're all just desperate cashgrabs now. If you want decent reading material move to Europe or go online.

>>34836002
yeah your mom wasn't my first either

>>34836009
Did you even fucking play it? I doubt it.

>The fucking kid with enormous brown animu eyes

>>34836009
>revenge story

Confirmed for not even playing it.

>>34835809
How is all these insults relevant?

Did he do something I missed?
He's an actor that gets cast to play goofy shit.

No I'm not defending him, I am really asking what he did

Everyone knows that the summer is the worst time for movies. It's been like this for awhile now. The plebs need their movie season too.

>>34835860
>Its marvels fault they did something well and everyone tries to copy them now.

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>>34835645
>the main people who are going to suffer are technicians...

No they all got paid for their involvement in this.

The ones actually "suffering" are the guys who threw money at this hoping to make a profit.

Instead they just got an expensive video file on a hard drive.

>>34835929
Well I'm 18 too and I've know of The Lone Ranger forever. Either I know too much pop culture history or you know none

>>34835931
>Of all the musicians or celebrities that are currently putting out interesting work they could have featured on the cover

Name 5

>>34835482 (OP)
>$250 million on a Western
I thought even the dumbest studio type has heard the story of Heaven's Gate?

>>34835941
Pacific Rim is going to do a lot of things

Bombing will not be one of them. I promise you, no matter how bad it is it will in no way shape or form bomb.

>>34836017
>MFW i like the F&F movies

They're so fucking silly and light hearted that i don't care how much they rape the franchise. it's just a bunch of car stunts after all, but i love it

>>34835926
About twelve people listed in the credits got more money than they need for a few years out of this deal, and everyone else in the credits got a "liveable" salary before moving on to their next film where they'll work tirelessly for next to nothing. But before, the money was just sitting in some publisher's coffers.


There's no silver lining here.

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>>34835929
>mfw I'm 25 and hadn't heard of it either

>>34836045
Well, at least you didn't say you're.

>>34836044
true dat. I just saw the Depp issue on my dad's coffee table and for some reason, it made me really, really fucking angry.

And of course RS is making an effort to enter the digital age by the owner appointing his 22 year old son to run their website. nepotism at its finest.

>>34835982
Most people didn't even know it was a western so doesn't count.

>>34835970
Hence the "maybe" in the post you responded to, champ.

I can dream. Dream with me, anon.

>>34836106
The only thing I knew about Lone Ranger was the "High-Ho Silver, AWAAAAY".

And that's only because of Jim Carrey.

Does he even say it in the film?

>you will never become head of a studio and guide it as visionary away from all these fucking bombs

>>34836058
lolwut?

His wife and kid were held hostage as a driving force, but he was taking revenge on everyone in his old gang. It was revenge driven. Then when he dies his son takes revenge.

Did YOU play the game?

>>34836013
Yup, he's hot shit right now.

It's kinda like how anything with the name Spielberg attached to it was fucking gold dust through out the 80's and 90's (and even occasionally to this day, although his Jew powers are not once what they were)

>>34835882

I know that feel. So much wasted money, time and effort, that could have gone into making at least a movie lots of people liked.

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>>34836009

You dumb fuck.

>>34835987
Then another New Hollywood will descend upon us.
And it will be glorious.

>no mention of a competent screenwriter
Do people not understand that without a great script a movie is fucked?

>>34835970
>Pirates was not an ego-booster in any way shape or form.

Haha okay. Disney has been blunder after blunder ever since, that series bloated their ego out of the water.

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>>34835954
It's wildly irresponsible and roughly bordering on anti-humanistic for a bunch of filthy rich Jews to just carelessly throw money down the drain on passe money-making schemes that the general populace is getting fucking sick of. No one wanted this movie. No one over the age of 70 gives a shit about The Lone Ranger. No one wants to see Johnny Depp acting like a fucking sperglord as usual with Helena Bonham Carter at his side once again. Literally no one gives one flying fuck about Armie Hammer (nice name bro). Fuck Hollywood. Fuck movies.

>>34835982
>tarantino
>black slave killing white men

What's not to like about it?

>>34835982
Because it's actually good. True Grit did well at the box office too. Both were R rated movies.

This is a film made for teenagers in a genre they don't give a fuck about.

>>34835975
Neither is White House Down and that was The Godfather in comparison. The Heat was better too.

I'll give you WWZ, that was shit of almost Lone Ranger proportions

You can't be this deluded.

>>34836130
That only lasts for 5 years tops.

After that your vision is no longer what Hollywood is looking for and you're gonna make a bunch of interviews with your friend about how the film industry is going to implode.

>>34836017
Okay? They are good actions flicks who don't try to be something they are not. It's sad you can say this about fast and furious and not steaming piles of shit like Lone Ranger.

>>34836137
>but he was taking revenge on everyone in his old gang

No he wasn't. He wanted nothing to do with it, but had no choice if he wanted to see his family again. The only revenge part of the game is Jack killing the politician after John dies. Which takes up like 5 minutes of the entire game.

>>34836156
>Armie Hammer
If they cast him as Batman in The Justice League film I will literally never watch movies ever again.

It's because Native Americans put a curse on them.
They truly are a shit race that deserved to get wiped out.

>>34835987
Not to be pessimistic but this will never happen

1 flop doesn't mean the masses are wising up, it just means 1 flop

>>34836147
A good script takes too much time, duuuuuuuuh.

Why put any work into pre-production when you can just vomit CGI on the screen, throw some pretty male stars up too and make everything explode?

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>tfw this creative destruction will lead to a second New Hollywood
Like a forest fire clearing out the big old trees to let flowers grow. John Carter and the Lone Ranger are the Cleopatra and Fall of the Roman Empire of our times.

>>34836016
1.It can be changed, then entitled butthurt actors will be culled out and the real performers will show their true colors
2. why LOL, they are overplayed, cost too much to make and offer the same shit mose of the time, bunch of splsions to distract from actual paperthin story
3. just something to consider cause it obviously does happen and they should let hubris get in the way of the realistic potential
4.i was talking about armie hammer you fucking dunce
5. not really if he plays them alsomst the exact same way with a diffrent accent and make up
6. but nothing, they've starred to gether way to many times for it to not go unnoticed and get irritating
7. or maybe improve it so we are not stuck with the same kind of movies for the next decade

>>34836009
Nope, True Grit was okay but I guarantee you if Red Dead Redemption was a movie it would be probably at least be considered for an Oscar.

>>34836049
>>34836141
See
>>34836137
Not even that guy who posted that.

It's a cheap typical videogame story. Dull and meatless. Hate it when people try and portray videogame stories as more than just an explanation for why you're shooting people. If you honestly believe there's quality to the stories of games such as
>Rockstar produced games
>anything in the Bioshock series
>anything in The Elder Scrolls series
>anything in the Mass Effect series
>any other videogame that's been lauded for "story telling"

You need to start reading some books or stop playing so many videogames. Something is rotting your mind.

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Would it have sold better if the Lone Ranger was played by someone black?

250 Million? How did that shit cost so much? It's really hard not to flop a Lone Ranger movie with a budget like that

>>34836120
If my dad was in charge of a mega-corporation I'd expect at least some kind of high-paying job.

>>34836216
*shouldn't

>>34836075
well okay, maybe 'interesting' wasn't the right word. 'relevant' might have been better.

Johnny Depp playing an autistic injun version of Jack Sparrow in yet another piece of shit disney movie that no one wants to see is not relevant. Johnny Depp turning 50 years old is even less fucking relevant.

>>34836230
240 million for unnecessary cgi explosions and other various special effects, the remaining ten million for the actual movie.

>>34836217
Unforgiven already won an Oscar
>>34836216
>It can be changed, then entitled butthurt actors will be culled out and the real performers will show their true colors
What motivation would any producer have for doing this? Do you have any idea why actors are paid so much, or why they can demand to be paid so much?

>>34836196
He was never reluctant, but rather eager to off his former gang who dicked him over and left him to die. Especially since it was now legal within the law. Like I said - it was coaxed into it by the hostage situation, but he was taking revenge on his former friends.

>>34836217
They'd just change the story too much. People in Hollywood take video games even less seriously than comic books. You'd have to find a writer and director who don't make summer blockbusters for it to turn out good.

>CGI Pyro instead of the cheaper real stuff

Fucking retarded.

>>34836221
Tyler Perry would probably work as the Lone Ranger actually...

>>34836149
Their ego was plenty bloated before.

It's like you were born in the 90s and your only experience with Disney was their classics and the renaissance films that came out during your childhood. Not any of their shit-tastic films from the 60s and 70s.

>>34836149
>the pirate series produced 12 hours of films based on a theme park ride

>>34836216
>1.It can be changed
1.No it really can't you are pretty ignorant if you think that's going to happen. Also, there's really no problem with it, paying actors has nothing to do with if the movie is done well or not, what the fuck are you even on about? No one will be "culled out" or that would be happening now. Your theory is stupid, logically

2.Yeah that's what dumb people who see movies and waste money want to see bro.

3. They should be realistic, yes

4. I'm sure some well known dude wouldn't have saved it, but Armie was indeed a horrid choice

5. You can say that about any actor who has ever done more than 1 film ever. You're basically saying he's the same because of his strange typecast, but it's not really true, he just plays weird characters, not the 'same' characters

6. It happens, that doesn't determine failure or success

7. You "improvements" are total shit and wouldn't help anything because they aren't even close to realistic and make no sense. Also I was being sarcastic, since you essentially have no clue what the fuck you're talking about :)

>>34836302
And the ride is more interesting than all of the films...before they updated it to add Johnny Depp everywhere on it.

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>>34836216
I'm sorry not the guy you're arguing with but your first point is next level stupid. There's also not a single reason that would actually change.

I hope this gets Disney to realize Tron: Legacy wasn't anywhere near as much of a flop as John Carter or The Lone Ranger and actually turned a profit in the end. Here's hoping for a Tron 3. Oh what the fuck am I saying it's gonna be all Star Wars from this point forward.

who the fuck is Arnie Hammer?

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>>34835690
At this point the most UNEXPECTED thing that Johnny Depp can do is play a normal fucking guy.

Like something Jason Bateman would do.

>>34836302
Stop it, are you trying to piss me off?

>>34836274
The story needed to be changed. The Mexico arc could be almost entirely removed and the story would stay the same. It was a ton of fun to play but a lot of that game was bloated and the end felt very rushed. It may be a good story for a video game but its not even close to the great western films, especially side it borrows so much from them

>>34836221
Habba bo ditta be blappa muh dick MUH DICK MUFUGGA

*uproarious applause for such a brave portrayal*

Libhurrals are fucking scum.

>>34836329
They threw Johnny Depp in in like, three places. Quit whining it's not that bad.

If you're talking about Disney World then all they got "rid" of was the dumb little girl in the basket who didn't do shit and the tied up couple at the end.

Better than letting it stagnate and be a creepy relic from the '60s. Ever been to Dollywood? You don't want Disney to look like that in the future. Johnny Depp's animatronic at least makes the ride look like they've touched it since the '60s.

>>34836210
I thought that pretty much every film this year turned out to be a flop so far except for Man of Steel.

>>34836216
yeah cause you reall know what you are talking about too mr hollywood mogul

>Hansel and Gretel
>A Good Day To Die Hard
>The Internship
>The Last Stand
>After Earth
>GI Joe Retaliation
>Jack the Giant Slayer
>Warm Bodies
>Olympus Has Fallen
>White House Down
>The Great Gatsby
>World War Z
>The Lone Ranger

Is 2013 officially the year of the flop?

>>34836401
I'd say people are tired of shit movies but there are still a lot of shit movies making money at the box office so I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore.

>>34836147
Here's a depressing fact about modern day Hollywood. Big budget popcorn films are shit so quickly these days, that it's now pretty common that a studio will let the movie start production without a finished script.

A recent example of this happened with Men In Black 3. It started filming whilst the script was only 2 thirds finished. In fact the film had to stop shooting for a while because it got to a point where they couldn't shoot any more scenes because they hadn't even been scripted yet.

>>34836386
Iron Man 3 made a gajillion dollars. Disney doesn't give a fuck if they have a couple flops when Marvel movies are guaranteed profits right now.

>>34836401
the only movies I've had any desire to see this year were Spring Breakers and Pain and Gain

>>34836431
If this is fucking true I want to die.

>mfw transformers 3 and avatar had lower budget

>>34836440
Strangely enough those two had dirt cheap budgets.

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WHAT IF
STUDIOS TOOK
SCRIPTS FOR BLOCKBUSTERS
AND THREW $2 MILLION
TO CREATE A TRAILER
AS PITCH
AND IF THE TRAILER GOT GOOD RESPONSES
AND LOOKED LIKE A HIT
PAY THE REST
TO GET THE MOVIE MADE

>>34836401
Warm Bodies made 3 times its budget.

>>34836461
Doesn't matter. Marvel movies are still basically free money for Disney right now. If GotG flops, then they might start to worry.

>>34836461
I like how he deleted his comment as soon as he made it. That's adorable.

>>34836287
>It's like you were born in the 90s

Get off 4chan and go take care of your kids

>>34836494
what did he say

>>34836488
GotG shouldn't flop, but the cast does worry me a little.

>>34835551
Yeah nobody wants to play western videogames like red dead redemption either.

>>34836481
Is that mac?
If yes, mein neeger.
If no, I need some fucking sleep.

>>34836494
I'll say it again: Iron Man 3 is objectively the worst of the trilogy and is one of the worst movies Marvel has ever made. Stay mad.

>>34836524
yea it is

and she legal in 6 months

>>34836481
>trailer

You mean teaser trailer right? Most trailers are pieces of the film stitched together.

This teaser pilot system might work, but it could also backfire where you have decent teasers and horrible films.

Like with Cloverfield.

>>34836230
Movies have a lot of parts to them. A lot.

Go to any popular bi budget film and check out how long the crew list is. I don't think people realize how painstaking a task it can really be to put it all together

Which is why I cringe when shit blunders left and right, as someone mentioned before partially, a lot of people put hard work into it and they are getting screwed. The big guys are just like "we dun goofed!" and do it again next year

>>34836537
yeah it would be a teaser. but would show something.

maybe shoot the opening scene. just 2 minutes that would show the gist of it.

>>34836546
>a lot of people put hard work into it and they are getting screwed.

No they aren't, they already got paid.

>>34836204
You'll probably see it opening night so you can laugh with us on here as we rip it to shreds.

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wait a minute... who exactly is supposed to be the biggest movie star in the world?

>>34836147
I can name a bunch of movies with shit scripts that did well.

>>34836515

It's not the cast, it's that they're going from very human characters in the Avengers into cosmic Marvel with little buildup. It seems to me that casual audiences don't actually like the weird shit in comics, so seeing a talking Raccoon and a walking tree save the universe might turn people off.

>>34836449

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-men-black-iii-started-166112

I read other stories too that Tommy Lee Jones was pissed as fuck at all this shit.

Did Django do well? Pretty great recent western

>>34836532
Yeah that's what I thought. It's been a while since I've been to /gym/, I haven't seen any of her new instagram and twitter stuff.

>>34836593
Objectively speaking, RDJ is the biggest movie star in the world right now.

>>34836401
I can name 3 times as many flops in 2012

Are all of you people fucking new to films? There are always huge blunders

>>34836090
What makes you say that? It's a new IP with no bankable stars based on anime monster robot fighting... it looks like Speed Racer all over again.

>>34836471
Mark Whalberg and Tony Shaluab were the budget

>>34836618
For a western it did very well.

Westerns have a habit of selling poorly. Django made back like 5 times its budget.

>>34836593
Armie Hammer, star of the social network and mirror miror

>>34836461
>talking abut financial success in regards to Disney not caring
>mentions the movies sucks

You don't really think that matters, do ya?

>>34836611
They're toning it quite a bit down for the pleb audiences. Fans of GotG will probably not be pleased with the changes to Star-Lord. Rocket Racoon will be a big hit with general audiences.

>>34836618
Django did just fine. Made bank and got an Oscar for Tarantino and Waltz.

>>34836573
>I don't know how the movie industry works

Layoffs aren't just restricted to office building cubicle jobs

>>34836672
>>34836651
So to do a Western it needs to be gritty as fuck?

Dead Man was a great western too.

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>Disney's face when the highest grossing Western of all time made less than their budget

I hate the retards on the internet saying it only did bad because of JD's costume. That's like forgiving it and pretending it did everything right but that

>>34836664
>Fans of GotG will probably not be pleased with the changes to Star-Lord.

What are they changing?

I think the only film released this year that I liked was Oblivion. And maybe Stoker.

>>34836481
Robert Rodriguez has already done it.

>>34836706
I'd hardly call Django "gritty"

>>34836734
He's not going to be wearing a mask, for one thing..

>>34836090
>>34836635
It's best if we just wait for the results on Pacific Rim.

All we're doing here is a bunch of NO YOU back and forth.

>>34836734
It's a Stallone Dredd thing. Fans like the helmet.

>>34836750
What? Doesn't the concept art have his mask?

>>34836720
Wow. Fucking wow. How did they ever think this would work? My mind is blown at how fucking stupid this whole thing is now

How are the Guardians of the Galaxy comics?

Should I be reading them?

>>34836720
>movie studios
>doing research

top fucking lel

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>>34835502
>>34835567

>>34836686
That's due to not getting more work. Clearly they're still hiring them with these high ass budgets.

>>34836745
Your definition of gritty is bad, then.

Fuck Django Unchained.
It just goes to show what a shit-washed nigger cock loving faggot world we're living in.
>movie about nigger empowerment and how white people are evil
burger/burger breddy gud :D:D:D:D
>movie about native and his cracker co-star and how natives and chinese people got fucked in those days
who gives a fuck about these shit skins, they don't have big cocks.

The faggot agenda just keeps growing and growing.

>>34836765
Not necessary unless you become a fan of them after the film.

>>34835482 (OP)
>Bombing harder then John Carter.
John Carter was awesome. They just fucked up on the marketing.

>>34836755
>All we're doing here is a bunch of NO YOU back and forth.

yeah duh it's 4chan silly.

I'm just saying I don't see TRANSFORMERS WITH A DIFFERENT NAME AND AND OVERRATED DIRECTOR not making 6 trillion.

I'm calling it now based off a similar looking series that has had 3 horrible movies and made bank on all of them.

>>34836805
Well, I have a year before the movie, I'm asking if I should beforehand or if they are kind of niche and bad

>>34835482 (OP)
They picked one of the most meh-worthy properties out there to reboot. Was the world really clamoring for another Lone Ranger? The mainstream audience hasn't given a shit about westerns since, maybe, the early 70s at latest.

>>34836808
>John Carter was awesome

No it wasn't, you have to be kidding me.
When i saw the TV spot for it, where it showed like 5 minutes of the film I seriously thought it was a made for TV thing or like a joke. The CGI was,,holy fuck, how did they spend so much money on such bad CGI

>>34836804
it seems to me like you really want some BBC in your mouth.

Can't help but feel people came to this already predisposed to hate it because of Depp and the whole "the team that brought you the PotC" promotion. That's the only way I can understand the way this movie is heralded as the worst movie of the year, when in truth it's pretty entertaining summer blockbuster, nothing more, nothing less.

>>34835580

I do

>>34836863
I'm not a beta cuck faggot like you.

>>34836842
They're pretty good.

Very outlandish as many mid-20th century Sci-Fi is and makes fun of itself.

>>34836820
>>34836755
Just saying it's gonna bomb and bomb hard. :3

>>34836804
You are thinking it was successful for all the wrong reasons

>>34836785
Well let's not shit on each other. But think about it for a second.

The foundation is serious (slavery, etc), but the film laid upon that foundation is about as far away from gritty as you can be. Excessive almost comedic violence and action through out.

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>the last indie film you watched was given $200 mil and a huge marketing campaign
does it succeed?

>>34836804
GR8 B8 M8

>>34836862
It was good for what it is. John Carter of Mars is a story that is VERY influential in Science Fiction. Many things from it have been done in other things.

Therefore at this point it doesn't impress anyone.

Speaking of Django, does anyone else Hate Jamie Foxx fucking a lot? I just hate his acting style it always seems so forced. Yes he's a good locking black man, and bro can sing, but still. I cringe every film he's in.