Not the Rani. She would have regenerated after she died in the Library.

>>8696924
Time Lords can still die.

>>8696924

Yeah she would've died just like the recent clone/daughter of the Doctor who popped back to life after he left.

in b4 weeping angel

>>8696924
-Timelords can only regenerate 13 times (although the master has found a way to circumvent that limitation)
-Timelords do not regenerate instantly (if we are using the 2005 season as an indication)
- Her spirit was upload to a digital realm. You see the soul of the doctor each time he regenerates (as well as residual energy). Her "soul" as it were was not present (Torchwood: The residual energy/"soul" in the severed hand is used by Jack Harkness)
- She has impersonated a companion in the past
- She has tried to trap 7 incarnations of the doctor simultaneously
--> She has been visiting various incarnations of the doctor now; all where they dont know her.
- She has shown knowledge of timelord anatomy
- She knows how to kill the doctor indefinitely (stop both of his hearts at hte same time)
- She can write in high gallifreian
- She is either /younger/ in time of angels than she is in Silence in the Library, or has the ability to time travel
---> Rani still has a Tardis (the trex that was in there when she was trapped with the master simply broke the ceiling).

I don't think that Moffat would be brave enough for a callback like that. Not many people would understand what was going on and he'd have to add tonnes of exposition.
Not that that should be a new thing for Doctor Who, but still.

>>8697011
Indeed, however she was scheduled for an appearance twice in the past (89 was the latest, I think), both of which were CANCELLED.

She also appeared in a childrens benefit in the 90s.

She was "in" when doctor who stopped airing

I really doubt it. It would be fucking epic if it was true, though

>>8697011
The called back The Master, didn't they? They just threw in a few episodes to explain a bit about who he was.

>>8697110
they also had davros in season 2 of the new series iirc

In the library episode, she seems to think tennant doctor knows her. which would mean it was 10 that met her first.

>>8697110
No. Utopia didn't give anything apart from "LOL I AM DA MASSA I R TIME LERD LOL BAI BAI"

>>8697161
ffffffffffffuuu

>>8697179
did you miss the warehouse scene in the following episode where tennant explained what the master was all about?

This sort of makes sense. Her appearance is radically different in the two incarnations we've seen. The face of Boh is on record for saying "you are not alone" in a timeline before the influence of the master -> when the master was at the end of the universe in human form (last time I checked Jack, assuming he is/was indeed the face of boh, didnt have the power to detect timelords innately).

Both rani and the master were imprisoned in the same place (Rani's Tardis), and the master escaped when the trex broke through the roof according to wikipedia, so why didnt rani?

In the latest episode, she said "I don't want to go back to prison again".

>>8697176
Or maybe she just only knows a single incarnation of the doctor.

I've got two theories now about the cracks in space-time. First of all that Lady Gaga is making them, as Rani has been known to use whizzbangerry like time funnels, etc.

Alternatively, it is the dalekanium daleks trying to escape the void to attack the rainbow daleks.

Alternatively, the end of the series will involve victory to the angels over the daleks/earth (they were called the silent assassins in Blink), and as we know "silence will fall"

>>8697240
>lady gaga
>i've got two theories
>lists three

I FUCKING HOPE SO OP

From Wikipedia: "A past relationship between the Rani and the Doctor is hinted at, but never elaborated upon"

>The doctor told her his real name
>She calls him sweetie

"THAT PROVES IT!"
>phillip J fry on bigfoot.png

>>8697240

>>dalekanium daleks trying to escape the void to attack the rainbow daleks.

FUND IT, THOSE OBESE POWER RANGERS NEED TO DIE

>>8697240
>lady gaga

>>8697289

The Doctor's name is Sweety?

>>8697240

Lady GaGa?

ITT people who do a better job of writing doctor who plots than the actual plot writers.

>>8697303

Screw you their awesome and you know it.

>>8697308

>>8697308

Doctor?

Sweety?

Sweety Man?

SHARLTO COPLEY IS THE NEXT DOCTOR

>>8697322

>>8697331

Whoops, forgot my image.

>>8697308
Sweety would infer the relationship.
As would her knowing his name (possibly the single circumstance where he would tell her his name).

By the way, did anyone notice that the tardis universal translator didnt translate the high gallifreian?

>>8697327

>>8697324

Oh no, I've seen this before. I believe this is a terminal case of George Lucas Turkeyneckitis.

It's in the final stages.

>>8697320
It's always the same when fans of shows start thinking about the possible plots for shows.
People want the show to be really high-falutin and so make these elaborate theories but it always ends the same way:
Some boring Deus Ex Machina ending which is utterly disappointing.
See Lost threads, there's no way the actual show will end in the awesome ways people have theorised.

>>8697320

>>ITT: People write bad fan fiction about a character nobody gives a fuck about.

I'm 21 now, so I was born the year DW was canceled. Growing up I knew what Daleks were, I knew about Cybermen, I knew about the Master and the Time Lords and the Doctor,. Do you know why? Because people still talked about them, nobody once ever mentioned The Rani. She was a shit character that was introduced while the original DW was on its last legs. Moffet would be a fool to ruin River Song with this shit.

>>8697324
Sorry, wrong spelling.
Sweetie?

>>8697320
you should have read the threads on the Dalek episode. I think there were enough words written to have a fully fleshed out episode that would have been 10x as good as what we got.

>>8697340

They probably just overlooked it.

Or some bullshit reason that's irrelivent.

>>8697352

I know no matter what i'm going to feel like i wasted 6 years of my life.

>>8697240
>river song is rani
>rani is lady gaga
>doctors name is Alejandro

>>8697371
or the TARDIS purposely doesn't translate it because Time Lord wanted to be able to communicate secretly if they happened to have some one in their TARDIS.

>>8697240
>it is the dalekanium daleks trying to escape the void to attack the rainbow daleks.

Sweet. The fag Dlaeks suck. I want my old design back.

Also, THE RANI IS THE WORST CHARACTER EVER.

>>8697376

>>8697352
In my opinion, every single fan theory I've read on /tv/ concerning Doctor Who (and also lost) is terrible.

It's not that time lords can't regenerate more than 12 times (13 lives) it was more of a limit set by the time lords themselves. As we've seen when the master did it they can refuse to regenerate.

The Dr will keep regenerating as long as he pleases.

River Song is River Song.
Amy can't remember the Daleks because the Doctor's in a parallel universe, also explaining the cracks.
My penis itches and I think I may have knob rot.

>>8697397

I bet you want DT back to, fag.

>>8697428
>Amy can't remember the Daleks because the Doctor's in a parallel universe, also explaining the cracks.

Because of time travel, faggot.

Also in b4 rose comeback

>>8697428
>the Doctor's in a parallel universe

That would suck.

BUT

It means the fag Daleks are not present in our relaity. Feels good man.

>>8697428

If parallel why so River?

River does not behave like the Rani. Not by a long shot. The Rani is a scientist and places her experiments above everything else. River is more of a newer version of Sara Jane Smith. An adventurer that keeps landing in really hot water.

As far as their twisted past goes, I'm willing to bet a future incarnation of the Doctor will pick up a new, young companion, and the two of them will fall for each other during their travels, and eventually marry. When the marriage certificate arrives, we see that her real name is River Song, a name she doesn't like, but takes after the Doctor ditches her out of spite for lying to him for so long.

>>8697442

>fag Daleks

>Lost tripfag

Faggot.

>>8697432
David Tennat? Abreviations make you a moron.

>>8697443
It's possible, but its really not plausible for a tv show to have a parallel reality with such a small, insignificant difference between parallel realities.

OPs theory is great, as is the daleks trying to escape the void

>>8697340

No, "Sweetie" infers her being one of those stupid middle aged women who think that calling people "Sweetie" and winking at them is somehow sexy and charming.

They are mistaken in this belief.

>>8697452

She's no incarnation of anything. They just keep meeting up in reverse. That's all there is to their relationship.

>>8697458
Problem anon?

>>8697428
Doctor in a parallel Universe?
Or Amy from a parallel Universe?
I think the latter.
She could even be prisoner 0 and that worm thing is just an incidental creature.

My theory is that the Daleks and the Time Lords are working together to break the time loop prison. They will resume their war after they get out and we will have a new season with a magnificent war.

The Cracks are from their efforts to free themselves.

How does that make you feel?

>>8697436
Not going to happen. Moffat doesn't like Rose.

>>8697428

A crack let prisoner zero out in a place where its guards were able to just run around, meaning that the crack was just connecting two places in the same universe.

The cracks are probably being caused by some creature/army/randomjackass trying to break free from a prison or travel quickly across the universe or possibly to break through a barrier in time.

Not enough has been shown to tell what the hell the cracks are about. They're making as much sense as the "Bad Wolf" references from earlier in the 2005 series, anyone even remember what it meant? I vaguely remember it having a connection to Rose being misplaced in space or something, but I don't remember why kids were spray painting it if that was even explained.

>>8697452
>The Rani is a scientist and places her experiments above everything else

True. She does, however, appear in situations with rather dangerous monsters, and has always been in charge in each particular episode.

She previously did an experiment on mice on gallifrey, which resulted in her being expelled from the planet (after it grew and ate the presidents cat iirc). Perhaps she is collecting data on the most desirable "traits" for a killing machine in the universe.

Alternatively, she may simply be messing with the fabric of reality (hence the cracks) to trap the incarnations of the doctor she meets.

>>8697519
Horny

>>8697523

Bad Wolf was a heap of shit, because they thought it would be great to foreshadow something, but they couldn't work out what it was they were foreshadowing.

Both River Song and Jack Harkness are from the same century, it seems fairly obvious that she's Jack before the sex change.

>>8697523
>I vaguely remember it having a connection to Rose being misplaced in space or something, but I don't remember why kids were spray painting it if that was even explained.

She made it happen when she was godly (she was omnipotent and omnipresent).

It was a sign to let her know she could go back to save the doctor (which in itself presents a paradox).

>>8697464

No I mean David Tennant. And don't lecture me on what makes one a moron tripfriend.

>>8697452
>River does not behave like the Rani. Not by a long shot.

Explain why she has a drastically different appearance, attitude (changed personality), and appears older in "Time of Angels".

>>8697519

Oh yeah "Your theory" sure, kid.

>>8697559
Bad acting and time, both hallmarks of Doctor Who.

>>8697559
Because actors age. It's a TV show, bro, not the real world.

>>8697533
>Both River Song and Jack Harkness are from the same century

There has been no indication of the origin of River Song.

>implying River song isnt Susan Foreman

>>8697559

River Song is Steven Moffat's mary-sue faptoy. He'll never have her be evil.

>>8697570

>>Back "bad writing" as the reason your shit fan fiction wont work.

Who wants the Time Lords to come back? I do.

>>8697559
Yeah and WTF is with Walt looking older than he should be in some scenes in Lost??
Something is definitely going on there!!

>>8697603

Why what purpose would they serve.

"Hey the Time Lords are back"
"Awesome, what are they going to do?"
"Be pompous arrogant fucks like the old days"
"Um...cool"

That's exactly what will happen.

>>8697619
go away

>>8697589

Oh god he was making a joke, do you have to go Doctor Who fanboy on him?

I like the Rani, but it doesn't make much sense for River to be her. They'd better have a damn good explanation if she is.

>>8697629
That sounds pretty good to me.

Also, EPIC WAR with the Daleks.

>>8697589
>susan foreman

haha no

>>8697652
It appears you don't know who susan foreman is.

>>8697657

You are 12. Get out.

By the way, I propose we have the daleks fire bubbles like they did in that one movie, instead of lazors.

>>8697667
>implying Susan isn't dead forever

>>8697680
No you!

>>8697683
thats the joke.jpg

>>8697657

There wont be a war,idiot. If post Time War Timelords escape the time lock they will just initiate the ultimate sanction. Personally I'd rather have Time lords that were kept hidden, or hid themselves in a colony because they didn't want to fight in the war, showing up or something like that. Time lords shouldn't be blood thirsty neanderthals.

This Rani theory makes no sense whatsoever.

>>8697707
it makes a lot of sense.

Will it happen? No

>>8697629

That wouldn't be too bad considering they've been turned a bit nasty over the years in their little private universe with the daleks or whatever they're calling it.

It would mean evil time lords springing up in places and stirring shit up to try and set up the same supremacy they once held over the natural order of things.

>>8697667

The fuck are you talking about i was talking about his Jack/RS tranny joke. Susan died of starvation after David abandoned her rapist infested London.

>>8697722
Yes, and you didnt notice the foreman joke.

You can get out now.

You are small time

>>8697240
>>8697523

The crack maker is something called the Pandorica, which (apparently) is going to be a fully powered, fully armed and fully chameleon powered War TARDIS

>>8697531

And aborted story called 'The Angel Of Time' about more or less God himself coming through destroying existence, Rose was supposed to be the one to stop that. Also a trademark issue about using a variation of a lightsabre canned it.

Still but what's done is done.

>>8697720

But they reached the point where they can destroy everything. No need to fuck about, this is also the reason why Davros coming back is ridiculous. They made them all far to powerful.

>>8697696
>idiot

Nice argument.

Anyway, are you implying that if they break free there wouldn't be some deus ex machina reason for them not to enforce the Final Sanction?

>>8697729

I got your "Joke" I choose to ignore it because it wasn't funny.

Just thought I'd say the polite voice on the angel at the end of the episode was the best bit for me.

>Snapped my neck sir

>>8697751

Yeah that was nicely done.

I'll go for the boring but more likely theory that River's the Doctor's wife from the future. Although now, that might be too obvious.

River Song after the next episode isn't in this season until the last two episodes. The bigguns. I imagine she'll play a big part in it all.

Every episode of Dr. Who should be about the Daleks. No exceptions.

>>8697738

I had an argument after calling you an idiot. It's apparent all you want is laser and explosions and "EPIC WAR" Go put the opening of Revenge of the Sith on repeat. You sound like a child.

>>8697768
I am watching it as we speak. Feels good man.

>>8697766
>>8697775

You really are just a fucking clown.

>>8697735

I don't mean to suggest they should keep with the RTD bullshit version of the TIme Lords where they're all nuts, but rather to bring their society back and have a few go rogue being a bit evil.

The timelords in the past have been mentioned as having kept some of the forces of time in check, so their revival could open some stories of incompetent timelords screwing things up when trying to fix things.

The whole idea of an insane group of Timelords doesn't necessarily mean they're all evil, but rather that they're a bit more paranoid about things maybe. It isn't as though they couldn't be changed about a bit.

>>8697761
Like she is rani and trying to open the pandorica?

>>8697784

I like this. I really did hate how every time Lord wanted to destroy all matter. War doesn't turn everyone into a genocidal fucktard. Some,yes, of course. But all the Time Lords. That was ridiculous.

>>8697779

>>8697798

>>8697799

Why do you want the Rani so much. Take it from an Old Who fag. She was never good.

>>8697806
>I like this. I really did hate how every time Lord wanted to destroy all matter. War doesn't turn everyone into a genocidal fucktard. Some,yes, of course. But all the Time Lords. That was ridiculous.

Thats not what happened. You should rewatch it again.

They were an ignoble race, and valued their existence over that of humanity. They werent going to "wipe the universe clean", they were going to obliterate the human race to bring back gallifrey.

>>8697824
>old who fag

Sproken like a true whovian. Yeah, nice try, kid.

She had excellent potential as an alternative to both the doctor and master (who ran/went mad at the sight of the vortex).

>>8697848
They literally wanted to 'end time' by destroying the universe so they could become higher forms of counsciousness or something

>>8697848

No you re-watch it. They were going to rip the time vortex apart and bring existence to nothingness. How did you miss that?

>>8697732
>The crack maker is something called the Pandorica, which (apparently) is going to be a fully powered, fully armed and fully chameleon powered War TARDIS

The War TARDIS theory is retarded, as the doctor has a 102, and the 102 is significantly more powerful than the War TARDIS.

>>8697848

>They werent going to "wipe the universe clean", they were going to obliterate the human race to bring back gallifrey.

This could easily be retconned as being just the actions of the leader of the Time Lords at that time rather than all the Time Lords.

>>8697923
>They were an ignoble race

Exactly?

>>8697928
Don't you mean Type 40?

>>8697884

OK kid believe what you want. If you want the Rani and not something new just for the sake of your fan wank, go ahead.

>>8697932

Except they were all shouting "for the end of time!" and that the counsel voted for the use of the final sanction.

>>8697946
Oh yeah. Sorry, I was thinking of the old one (compassion or whatever it was called)

this is actually the best Who thread i've come across in awhile

Although this Rani stuff is rubbish, how about we wait and find out rather than coming up with increasingly elaborate theories that end up reading like teenage fan fiction?

>>8698008
Not sure how this thread is any good?

We've got the rani theory and some lost tripfriend talking about HURRDURR I WANT A TIME WAR XD

The rani theory is the best part of the thread

>>8698008

hear hear, but it is half the fun pointing out the plot holes in said theories.

>>8698022
What were the "plot holes" in the Rani theory exactly?

There haven't been any posted that I have read. At best, the only thing I can think of that we can honestly say goes against the OPs theory is

a. It's the same actress
b. River song "died" (but her soul was put into a virtual world)

There are other (possible) subtle cues given that may suggest the OPs theory is correct;
She is called Doctor Song
-> She laughs when she gets told she will some day become a "professor"
She has a terrible secret, and may go back to prison if he finds out

>>8697994

>compassion

That reminds me, we need the books to be give more credibility on screen. We need Fitz and number 8 on the show in a once off episode.

>>8698056

It just seems like so much desperation and speculation to me. You have to remember who this show is primarily aimed at.

Professor River Song has been strongly hinted by Russell T.Davis to be The Doctors last companion, and wife.

Her real name is Bernice Summerfield, and she was part of the Doctor Who novels before the 2005 revamp. In the novels she has no other connection to the Doctor other than being a minor companion. Her role in this series will be different to that of hers in the novels.
She has a Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernice_Sum…

Dr Moon, (his true name is revealed later in this series, Irving Braxiatel) is a Time Lord (possibly the Doctors brother). This could mean that River Song is also a Time Lord.

There is a small possibility that River Song is afflialted with the return of the Rani. (Of whos return is hinted at at the end of Series 3), or that she is The Doctors last companion before he dies (the more likely theory).

Both of these explains her Sonic Screwdriver, knowledge of the Doctor, and knowledge of the role which Donna plays in the Last Great Time War. (Involving Racnoss, Parallel Universes, and Daleks...enjoy)

Hi Graham Norton here, just thought I'd let you know you'll be seeing a lot more of me in Doctor Who from now on.

>>8698087
>It just seems like so much desperation and speculation to me. You have to remember who this show is primarily aimed at.

There are 1001 theories about who river song is. The Rani happens to be a rather popular one. The OPs thoughts aren't exactly original

>>8698112

Oh god you're right. Older woman, smug, annoying.

It's fucking Benny.

>>8698112

That stuff all sounds like an annoying pile of shit, but any crossover with Irving Braxiatel, and thus the novels, is fine by me. Those books got me into Doctor Who.

>>8698123
Learn to MS Paint

Rani is an anagram of Rain

>>8698168

Also Nair.

Also Inar

>>8698130
>Older woman
>smug
>annoying
It's fucking Donna.

You guys suck. OP is correct.

Here she is in cuffs after the doctor finds out who, or rather what exactly she is.

/thread

The diary is a type 103 tardis

>>8698222
lol'd

>>8698227
Where is this image from???

>>8698321

the internet

>>8698346
is it next episode?

>>8698346
Fukken lol'd.

The Rani means "She is singing"

>>8698434
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Rani

I dunno about you guys, but this rani theory just makes sense to me

What's it doing to me?

>>8698467
It's making you weep, angel.

>>8698434
>Singing
>Song
>RIver Song

>>8698496
What is this I don't even

>>8698496
>Rani
>Rain
>River
>Both Water

Penis
Vagina
Pussy
Both instruments of sexytime

>>8698529

>Rain
>Rani
>River
>Water
>Amy POND

Yeah what now?

>>8696910
It's mother Gaia

>>8698548
Amy pond isnt singing. Go away.

They're never going to bring the fucking Rani back. She was a shit villain who appeared in two abysmal serials. They only bring good villains back.

>>8698548
How do you know it's an Amy Pond when there are no Amy's in it?

A > T
M >H
Y >E
P >R
O >A
N >N
D >I

Gillian Anderson should play Rani

>>8698467

The light stained her eye.

Her eye is now an angel.

>>8698611
Do go on

>>8698591
Russel T Davies said that it was the hand of the rani picking up the masters ring in an interview

>>8698611
Y is not > E. If it was greater than, it would appear earlier in the alphabet.

>>8698647

Even though it clearly wasn't, it was those people who revived him in The End of Time.

>>8698638

>>8698467
i see caesar in her eyes

Another clue is that the Rani's last apperence involved a plot about trying to take over Eastenders or something.

Eastenders is a soap opera.

The actress playing River used to be in a soap opera, ER.

ER also happens to be the first and seccond to last letters of 'Eastenders'.

Co-insidence? I think not.

>>8698693
not canon

>>8698617
Good idea. The character is shit, but I would be able to live thorught that if Scully was her.

>>8698736

It is now that the Moff is in charge.

Can we get some proper spaceships for the Daleks plz? Those saucers are abominable.

This thead guy from the thread

Someone should photoshop a troll face onto that little Graham Norton animation

Doctor who thread on first page

my face

>>8698879
i got three tabs open all about doctor who

>>8698879

You should have seen the one last night, there was an extensive discussion of Weeping Angel mating, pregnancy and childbirth.

>>8698876
-.-

>>8698898

I think it makes more sense that there is only one weeping angel that has existed and the various incarnations are just extensions of the same creature protruding into our perception of reality. Creating an image just makes it possible to push through a bit.

>>8698903
ungrateful bastard

>>8698897
UPDATE: four tabs

>>8698937
>I think it makes more sense that there is only one weeping angel that has existed and the various incarnations are just extensions of the same creature protruding into our perception of reality. Creating an image just makes it possible to push through a bit.

I think its better if the angel is actually not real and is a solid hallucination taht can create false perceptions resulting in the creation of others

>>8698940

>>8699055
MY EARS

MY EAAAAARS

>>8698940
I'D ALSO LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE VIEWING THIS IMAGE THAT OVER THE RAINBOW IS ON AFTER DOCTOR WHO.
IN CASE YOU MISSED THE ADS JUST BEFORE AND AFTER THE SHOW.

>>8699329
Do I see a Dalek peeping from in there?

>>8699353
No.
Someone needs to shoop Graham Norton coming out of the cracks.

>>8699329
I'd plug Amy Pond's crack with my TARDIS if you know what I mean.

My penis might only be two inches on the outside, but inside it's bigger than Ron Jeremy (the man, not his penis).

>>8699329
I'd plunge myself into Amy's crack, if you know what I mean.

>>8699400
>>8699424
No, I do not know what you mean.

>>8699435
That's because you're 12.
I'D SONIC AMY POND IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

>>8699435

>>8699329

fix'd

>>8699570
The Pandorica is Lehman Brothers!

>>8699570
MIND = BLOWN.

>>8699488
No, I do NOT know what you mean.

WHY CANT THE DOCTOR TELL SHES A TIMELORD WHEN HE CAN SENSE IF ANY ARE IN EXISTANCE. CHAMELEON ARCH AINT A GOOD REASON BECAUSE THEN SHE WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT SHE WAS RANI.

So. First, martha was the rani. Then, The doctors daughter was the rani. And, of course, then bloomin kylie minogue THEN Donna, THEN riversong? Some people are getting depserate.

>>8699605

>MIND = BLOWN.

P. much this. Godammit I lol'd hard.

>>8699618

No but this time its definatly Rani

>>8699618
> So. First, martha was the rani. Then, The doctors daughter was the rani. And, of course, then bloomin kylie minogue THEN Donna, THEN riversong? Some people are getting depserate.

river song is the first person Ive ever thought to be the rani

>>8699570

motherofgod.jpg - I would post pic but I lost it.

it's entirely possible that she's the rani but it's a whole lot more likely that she's just some batshit alien or something

This poster >>8699618 is the Rani!

>>8699644

and then I was the Rani

>>8699644
>>8699656
Good. Now we don't have to deal with that awful character in the show.

>>8699656
>>8699656

FABULOUS, isn't it darlink.

>>8699677
DO NOT WANT

>>8699677

damn that looks like river song

>>8699677
>FABULOUS isnt it sweety

fixed that for you

>>8699693
Both wear red nails

>>8699708

And that ring looks familiar.....

Y'all are going to get Jossed.

>>8699708

Both are ghastly middle aged women.

>>8699724

so does their hair and face and vneck

The pecuniary and temporal ramifications of differentiating process for special needs students are capacious, and thus put additional strain upon the teacher throughout the day.

She can't be the fucking rani, why can't the doctor tell she's a timelord?

>>8699775
Because she is not one.

She is The Master.

>>8699775
He cant do that.

He couldnt tell that Saxon was the master until he worked it out

>>8699775

Because they will come up with some nonsense

>>8699790
He couldn't tell that Professor Yana was the Master because he was a human when they met. He never met Saxon before knowing it was the Master.

>>8699834
>He never met Saxon before knowing it was the Master.

Exactly. He hasn't met River Song before, either.

River Song = Rani.

Confirmed.

>>8699850
He's met her a number of times.

>>8699870
He doesnt know she is The Rani, though, faggot. Learn to read outside of a single post.

Since when can the doctor "sense" a time lord?

The masters trickery RELIES on him not being able to

>>8699790
Face to face with a timelord? I'm sure he would be able to tell.

River Song = The Valeyard

>>8699886
Timelords can sense one and another and recognise them even with changed appearance. It's been mentioned loads of times in Doctor Who.

>>8699886
>Since when can the doctor "sense" a time lord

Since forever?

>>8699910
>>8699909
>bitches dont know about perception filters

>>8699927
The master wasn't fooled by the perception filter. I doubt the doctor would be either. She's not using the chameleon arch either.

>>8699927
Doctor Smith Who saw through a perception filter in a matter of seconds in Amy Pond's house.

>>8699927
Name an instance when the Doctor didn't know a perception filter was active.

>>8699969
When he was John Smith.

>>8699850
Wow talk about insufficient cognitive ability...

He never met Saxon. If he did, he would have been to tell it was a Timelord.
He wasn't able to tell that Yana was a Timelord, because the professor himself didn't know.

The only way Song can hide that she is a Timelord is if she didn;t know it herself. That kinda defeats the purpose, but whatever.
We clearly knows who she is with all that prison talk.

So, use your brain before you type and read more posts before jumping into a thread.

>>8699996

>>8700009
She clearly knows*

>>8699996

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>>8700009
>
The only way Song can hide that she is a Timelord is if she didn;t know it herself. That kinda defeats the purpose, but whatever.
We clearly knows who she is with all that prison talk.

>we clearly know who she is

So tell us?

>>8700040
This. It was a typo.
>>8700024

>>8699962

No he didn't, he didn't spot it at first it only occurred to him later.

>>8699946

>Implying The Doctor and The Master are of equal intelligence.

Rani's name given in the Deca means "dawn".

Rani means "she is singing"

>she is singing at dawn
>today is ANZAC day
>>she is a war veteran
>>>she was in and survived the time war

>>8700108
Wut?
The point is that they are, and that the Doctor only triumphs because he also has companions.

I hate that dam Time War, it's such a fucking DEM.

>>8700133
The master is more creative however, because he is insane

So as someone who hasn't seen the old Who, can someone fill me in on what the Rani is/are?

Also, someone remind me. In one episode where the Master dies, someone picks up a ring. That was used in The End of Time to bring the Master back right? I remember reading at the time that people were saying the same thing.

>>8700195

yeah the ring was used to resurrect the Master but the process got sabotaged

>>8700195
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Rani

>>8700195

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Rani

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Disciples_of_Saxon

>>8700195
Yeah one of the Master's cultists picks up the Master's ring at the series 3 finale and then uses it to revive him at the start of the big damn ending.

One Question for Moffat: When and how is the Master back?
I don't even care if he continues being blatently homosexual for the Doc, I really miss him :(

>>8700423
he was sexy as fuck when he was firing lightning during the end of time

no homo

>>8700423

Too busy being in the season finale of Ashes to Ashes.

>>8700446

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>>8700423
The Master died a long time ago, and he will be missed. John Simm doesn't even have a goatee, how they can call him The Master I just don't know.

>>8700479
John simm did a damn good job.

Plus hes sexy

>>8700498
John Simm did a great job of playing an evil Doctor fanboy, but that wasn't The Master.

>>8700479
Matt Smith doesn't even have a celery, how they call him The Doctor?

>>8700446
Not a chance.

>>8700435
he is sexy, no questioning.

>>8700479

You don't need a goatee to be the Master. Just a ming the Merciless-esque sense of fashion.

>>8700516
Guy that's in a cyberman suit doesn't even have an achille's heel of gold, so how can they call him the guy that's in a cyberman suit?

>>8700546

OY! TYLER! WHEN YOU'VE FINISHED GETTING A HANDJOB FROM YOUR MUM THERE'S SCUM OUT THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE NICKED!!

>>8700569
You won't be hunting down scum for long Gene....

>>8700569
DO I LOOK LIKE SAM TO YOU

>>8700638
someone wants a word with you . . .

>>8700638

Man when Gene called him a jew this week I shouldn't have laughed. Also FUCK YOU.

Yeah its obvious there is a timelord fucking shit up. Remember that star whale episode? The brits left the "dying" earth way before the sun expanded ("End of the World" epsiode).

Different timeline. Obviously someone is fucking shit up and no one remembers or theyve fallen into a parallel universe (which the doctor would remember, obviously)

I started watching Ashes to Ashes like 2 weeks ago when the guy was going to set the house on fire with his wife in it.

That's a fucking great show.

>>8700748

You've seen Life on Mars obviously? Ashes is pretty good but man LoM was awesome, just seeing the difference between policework and society back then and now was great, when that lady is shot in one ep and Sam realizes EMTs aren't in use yet was horrifying.

>>8700818
No i haven't seen Life on Mars actually, I'll need to watch it sometime.

>>8700703

They left temporally and would return when the earth fixed itself for some reason.

>>8700842

Wha-DO SO RIGHT FRIGGIN NOW HOW ARE YOU WATCHING ASHES WITHOUT FIRST SEEING LIFE ON MARS, BAD ANON, THAT'S A VERY BAD ANON!!! *ROLLED UP NEWSPAPER*

>>8700703
The daleks also time travel so its not just possible that it is a time lord

This is a great thread.

>>8700842
>Watching AtA before LoM

You faggots are forgetting something.
We already HAVE a Rani, and she's the only reason The Sarah Jane Adventures is worth watching.
(why a kid's show continually makes references to the old series, i don't know)

>>8701026
Rani is rani

>>8701009

My god, I forgot that Shaz's LOM predecessor was FUCKING GORGEOUS GODDAMN!!

>>8700946
THE TARDIS IS REALLY DAVROS!

>>8701026
Because a massive Who nerd is writing it and nobody cares what he writes (it is the SJA) so he can pretty much do anything he wants.