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    120 KB Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:32 No.8329414  
    What was the reason to not create the perfect world? why were crops lost?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:33 No.8329449
    Mankind likes to suffer/humanity can never be satisfied/suffering affirms our existence/etc etc
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:35 No.8329477
    >What was the reason to not create the perfect world?

    They tried, humans rejected it.

    >why were crops lost?

    They weren't watering them with Brawndo, the Thirst Mutilator. IT'S GOT ELECTROLYTES.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:35 No.8329483
    >>8329449
    This.

    But the hell version didn't work either.

    We want balance. Both heaven and hell.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:37 No.8329541
    >>8329477
    >They tried, humans rejected it.

    but why?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:39 No.8329573
    >>8329414

    Because otherwise there would not be a purgatory allegory
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:39 No.8329574
    >>8329541
    The world did not compute, they would reject the program the way the body might reject the wrong blood type, and they would probably shut down.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:50 No.8329847
    >>8329574
    why would they reject the program?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:52 No.8329894
    >>8329574
    Because we as flawed beings cannot accept a perfect world.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:52 No.8329904
    >>8329541
    because PLOT
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:54 No.8329943
    >>8329894
    Than what is the point of Neo?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:55 No.8329951
    >>8329943
    Because it's better to have a flawed world where people can choose their own destiny, than to have a flawed world that is just an illusion, because everything is controlled for you.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:55 No.8329960
    >>8329943
    Im confus
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:57 No.8329983
    >>8329960
    Neo is the thing that balances out the equation i think. The agents mess up the balance by editing and morphing into other beings. And neo is here to BALANCE SHIT OUT.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:57 No.8329991
    >>8329960
    Didnt neo make it so the matrix world would be perfect?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)21:58 No.8330015
    > not create the perfect world
    the same reason why the machines just didn't lobotomize every human in existance and have their perfect, never-fucks-up energy source:
    plotline
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:00 No.8330045
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    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:00 No.8330051
    >>8330015
    also, the same reason why horror movies last longer then 5 minutes; the protagonist/would-be victim isn't armed with a weapon AND be proficient enough to stop their assailant(s) with it or with something else.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:01 No.8330069
    >>8330045
    > implying that an intelligent conversation over the plot of the matrix is a guy trolling
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:02 No.8330103
    >>8329991
    No, Neo freed the humans FROM the Matrix.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:12 No.8330288
    >>8330103
    No, Morpheus said that humans that dont want to be freed shouldnt be freed
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:27 No.8330616
    >>8330103
    Neo killed Smith and saved all the people connected to the matrix. Neo wanted to free everyone and smith just wanted to destroy the matrix. By killing smith neo made peace with the machines. My guess is the peace wont be for long. MATRIX 4 PLS
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:29 No.8330669
    >>8329943
    to believe in the balance.
    If you need heaven and hell, you still need the belief that one can dominate over the other.

    In ohter words, Neo became a self-fulfilling prophecy,but he was never meant to really change anything.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:36 No.8330802
    >why do they reject the program?
    Because they don't believe it's real life. Everyone in the non-perfect Matrix believes they are just going about their normal day, so they don't do anything they wouldn't do and they don't try to escape.

    If they didn't believe they were in the real world because it was too perfect, they'd start trying to get out or figure out what's happening to them.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)22:54 No.8331164
    reality is suffering. we all want perfection and be grateful you will never experience it.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:02 No.8331305
    >>8330069
    >Believing the question, "But whyyyyyy" is intelligent conversation.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:06 No.8331372
    >>8330616
    why didnt the machines kill smith?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:08 No.8331417
    >>8331372
    Because you're a troll and haven't watched all the movies and persist upon asking stupid questions that are obviously answered in the series.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:14 No.8331536
    Why did they use humans for the battery pods? (Like that makes any sense anyway.) Why not use cows or pigs or some animal that can't fight back even if it escapes.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:15 No.8331554
    >>8331417
    wow you sure told me, im crying buckets now
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:17 No.8331599
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    >>8331536
    um...well........fuck shit good question.
    >> suomynonA 04/09/10(Fri)23:19 No.8331632
    >>8331536
    because they hate and want to punish the humans as well
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:19 No.8331646
    >>8331632
    machines dont have feelings
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:20 No.8331658
    >>8331536
    Watch the Animatrix- The Second Renaissance.
    >> suomynonA 04/09/10(Fri)23:22 No.8331691
    >>8331646
    they're not machines, so much as programs

    and yes they can/do
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:22 No.8331712
    >>8331646

    The ones in The Matrix trilogy have feelings.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:23 No.8331728
    >>8331646
    They do because humans created them to. Why do you think there was a robot resistance and war if they didn't have feelings?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:23 No.8331736
    >>8331536

    Humans last longer too
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:29 No.8331846
    >>8331536
    Humans live longer and as such can provide sustained energy for longer before needing to be replaced.

    Think of it as a human being a car battery whereas a cow would be a double-a battery. If you had to power something for longer, you'd go for the car battery.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:29 No.8331862
    >>8331536
    Humans scorched the sun ages ago

    No sun = no grass
    No grass = no cows
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:34 No.8331959
    >>8331862
    no cows no humans
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:35 No.8331979
    >>8331959
    I'm pretty sure that 200 years in the future we'll have more sources of food than just cows.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:39 No.8332078
    >>8331658
    if the machines had the energy to grow food for the humans, why use them in the first place?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:40 No.8332094
    http://www.paybacktimelizzy.com/index.php?c=viral&m=index&id=c69313eef1508e9c65b647a99560673
    f
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:40 No.8332095
    >>8331862
    that doesnt make sense

    why didnt the matrix just grow cows and use them as batteries?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:43 No.8332162
    >>8332095
    see
    >>8331846
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:44 No.8332183
    >>8332162
    why would the machines need to feed the cows grass?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:44 No.8332189
    wow no references to gnosticism? I'm impressed /tv/ way to miss the entire point of the movie.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:45 No.8332206
    >>8332078

    I read somewhere that the original idea was actually that they used human brains for computing power. But they changed it to the energy thing because they thought the general audience wouldn't get it I guess.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:47 No.8332250
    >>8331846
    humans are not sources of energy. machines would have to put more food energy into humans than they'd get in thermal/bioelectric energy. it's a completely illogical and pointless intermediary.
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:47 No.8332260
    >>8332206
    where did you read that?
    >> Anonymous 04/09/10(Fri)23:48 No.8332288
    >>8331846
    than why not use tortoises?
    >> Henry Moseley !1RONAnRsdk 04/09/10(Fri)23:52 No.8332343
    >>8332288
    Turtles feed on lots of grass. No sun=no grass. Also the only flaw is that humans that don't move will die younger, due to heart failure (lack of muscle strength) making them only live probably before 30.



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