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  • Kimmo Alm aka "Sysop" from AnT has been spamming us for YEARS now, and has recently stepped it up. This shit has got to fucking stop. As promised, here are all of the e-mails he has sent me over the years (and my responses).

    We've done all we can do about him. We've banned THOUSANDS of proxies, and deleted OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND spam posts. His attacks continue though, and we've reached the limit of what we can do.
    edit: we aren't going to add captcha.

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    18 KB Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:45 No.7702299  
    >if the pERsOn rEadINg tHIS iS Not Moot, E-maIL Moot@4ChAN.ORG

    I did e-mail moot, thanks for the suggestion. I said:

    Something tells me that the spammers are never going to stop spamming, no matter what you do. It's an unwinnable position. It's also, as you mentioned in your post, essentially blackmail. The best suggestion I can think of is to have a button on each post labeled "Spam", and if, say, ten different IPs click it, the post is deleted. Then at least the readers can feel like they are doing something, and the Spam button could collapse the post and change it to just a bar that says "Marked as spam" or something. Obviously this is going to get misused by people who use it on, for instance, every Avatar thread that is posted on /tv/ every eight seconds, but then again you have to ask yourself if that would really be such a bad thing.

    He responded in seconds with:

    >I know. We've been planning on adding the "Spam" flag for a while now--not sure why it isn't implemented yet. I'll ping the programmer.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:45 No.7702312
    moot never answers my emails ;_;
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:46 No.7702325
    >>7702312

    Perhaps you should send him good ideas, and not pictures of your penis.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:47 No.7702331
    the spam button would obviously be abused
    but... if you ban people for misusing the spam button it could work
    and we'll be able to get rid of the porn spammer without mods
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:47 No.7702332
    Good on you, OP.
    This sounds like a great idea.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:47 No.7702336
    >>7702325
    >implying sending moot a picture of my penis is not inherently a good idea
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:48 No.7702339
    I emailed moot once and he respond with "check your greasmonkey userscript" and he was correct and it fixed my problem. Mootles is love
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:48 No.7702342
    do it. goggles threads are by definition spam, this would heal so much cancer.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:48 No.7702345
    >>7702336

    YOU SEE THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM RIGHT THERE

    COME ON
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:48 No.7702347
    This will end badly, mark my words.

    Spammer will change ips and mark every thread as spam...

    What needs to happen is OP needs to be able to delete any post. Then people who want to shit up his thread GET SERVED.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:49 No.7702357
    >>7702331
    Gonna be abused like crazy. Should probably make the post viewable again with the click of a button, so people participating in a real thread can participate no matter how much abuse is being laid on them.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:49 No.7702359
    I nominated myself to be a mod but moot never responded.

    I'll be an awesome mod.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:49 No.7702365
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    >>7702342

    No more goggles, no more oval, no more Eazy-E, no more Sammy Wilson.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:49 No.7702371
    >>7702342
    :(

    >>7702347
    Giving the OP the ability to delete posts would be abused even more. Anyone posting anything they didn't like could just have their post deleted.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:50 No.7702374
    >>7702347
    lol, you realize the trolling potential in this?
    a glaufag can make a glau-thread look like everyone loves it and no one is complaining, same for avatar, etc.
    you'll see flood of combos and shitty things. giving OP control of his entire thread will just make everything worse
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:51 No.7702386
    >>7702347
    RETARDED IDEA
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:51 No.7702387
    we just need some fucking mods

    I'm here all day but of course I'll never be a mod, instead some idiot who never browses /tv/ will come once a month to ban one dude
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:51 No.7702391
    I feel bad for moot regarding this ongoing 'war', even though boards like /tv/ are barely infected by that spam compared to /b/ etc
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:51 No.7702392
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    >>7702365
    Begun, the mark as spam war has...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:51 No.7702393
    Maybe we need the thumbs-up thumbs-down system that Digg uses on its comments. You can still read the comments that are dugg down, and if you still don't like them after that you can digg them down some more.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:52 No.7702410
    >>7702371
    Then start your own troll thread you childish faggot.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:52 No.7702411
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    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:53 No.7702414
    it was my idea to get rid of sage
    he didnt even call me a fag :(
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:53 No.7702422
    >>7702391
    /b/ is almost completely spam now.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:54 No.7702433
    >>7702374
    >a glaufag can make a glau-thread look like everyone loves it and no one is complaining

    It would keep fucking niggers like you from complaining in threads you don't like instead of being a white man and ignoring them.

    I fucked your mother.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:55 No.7702452
    The problem would be solved if we ADDED. FUCKIN. CAPTCHAS.

    Nobodies post is so fuckin important that it can't wait five seconds. Plus, Problem Child 2 idiot would be forced to waste even more time posting nothing.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:56 No.7702467
    >>7702387
    yep, same here.

    I'm here at least 12 hours a day, and have been here for over a year.

    I don't get insulted or take shit personally on 4chan, or the internet in general. I always hide/report threads when needed.

    I wouldn't be a nazi-mod that bans everyone. mods can also talk with the community. things get out of hand with avatar/glau/whatever on the front page? I'd simply ask you guys to keep it in one thread and/or issue warnings.
    Threads that aren't tv/film related will be deleted immediately.

    Things that are technically within the rules yet are blatant troll threads will be dealt with in the appropriate manner that the 'mods ruleset' defines.

    pornspammer can play cat and mouse with me all day, he won't last more than 2 images.

    Kaiji can try to evade his ban all he wants, his threads (if they ever reappear again) won't last more than a minute.

    Unfortunately, this will never happen, I will never be a mod and make /tv/ awesome, and I don't blame moot because it's impossible to pick a random anon and give him such abilities.

    inb4 tl;dr
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:57 No.7702483
    >>7702467
    Ban LGL, for the love of god
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:58 No.7702493
    >>7702467
    I support you sir
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:58 No.7702504
    I am from the future; This technology will be more important than ever once the upcoming Loo'tiri wars begin (Leeloo from the Fifth Element mixed with Ney'tiri from Avatar to create a zealot-filled religion on /tv/). I am glad to see this progress in the works. BRB returning to my living hell of a future
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:59 No.7702511
    >>7702467
    lolno
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)12:59 No.7702518
    >>7702467

    You seem reasonable, yet soft on Glaufag. You'd need to ban him as well...for his own good. He might finally go outside this decade.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:02 No.7702554
    >>7702467
    You say that, but as soon as you attained power, you'd go mad.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:02 No.7702557
    If I was a mod I would ban anything not /glau/ related.

    For those extra special faggots I would h4x their ips, track them down, and fuck them in the ass with a lawn mower.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:02 No.7702559
    You assume 10 people would actually bother to spam report everything they don't like.

    It'd be messy for a few days then go back to normal, i doubt most actual spam would even reach enough reports to get deleted.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:02 No.7702566
    >>7702554
    I don't think so. obviously I can't predict with 100% certainty how I'd behave but I usually don't get 'high' on power etc. plus obviously if I abuse such abilities I'll lose them so...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:02 No.7702567
    >>7702467
    Kaiji threads were better than at least half of the shit that gets posted here.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:03 No.7702573
    this spam flag is going to be so over-used/abused

    this is 4chan.

    although, I do doubt that enough people will share the same opinion enough to just flag things they don't like, like Avatar threads or whatever, whereas I'm sure everyone would flag posts by that one shitty site nobody cares about
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:03 No.7702582
    >>7702567
    >>7702567
    >>7702567
    >>7702567
    >>7702567
    >>7702567
    >> Axolotl !iLoVeYOUvM 03/11/10(Thu)13:04 No.7702594
    captcha is the only way i think
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:05 No.7702600
    >>7702566
    You should write some fanfiction about being a mod.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:05 No.7702606
    >>7702567
    >>7702582
    meh, fuck off. he was the #1 cancer of /tv/, and as much as /tv/ is bad, it's not as bad as it was with Kaiji on board.

    anyway this is a moot point (pun intended) since moot personally banned him so get over it.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:06 No.7702620
    >>7702573
    although, I do see this putting an end to stupid troll shit like Ayn Rand threads on /lit/ or racist threads on /r9k/

    this just might be a good idea after all
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:07 No.7702651
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    >>7702620
    It won't work
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:07 No.7702652
    This will essentially allow us to vote away threads we don't like. That could mean a lot of good threads go too.

    The anontalk spam isn't even that annoying. It's just become a regular feature of the site. Less of a nuisance than the constant trolling. Who even pays attention to it anymore?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:08 No.7702670
    >implying OP isn't a good troll
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:11 No.7702722
    I don't know why you guys are talking as if this system is going to be put in place to cater to stupid trolling spam in /tv/

    It's to counteract the AnT spam
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:12 No.7702742
    >>7702504
    >This technology will be more important than ever once the upcoming Loo'tiri wars begin (Leeloo from the Fifth Element mixed with Ney'tiri from Avatar to create a zealot-filled religion on /tv/).

    Nice job creating the Army of the 12 Monkeys, asshat
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:12 No.7702752
    >>7702742

    ... brb, opening photoshop :3
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:13 No.7702757
    >>7702298
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    >> Drifter !IHAloJDB4A 03/11/10(Thu)13:15 No.7702791
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    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:16 No.7702816
    >>7702298
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    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:16 No.7702820
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    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:18 No.7702843
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    >> Axolotl !iLoVeYOUvM 03/11/10(Thu)13:18 No.7702854
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    >>7702816
    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
    >> PosterParent !!JVEkaVAk0gQ 03/11/10(Thu)13:20 No.7702885
    Add a spam flag button, but you can only use it thrice a day
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:22 No.7702910
    >>7702885
    Yeah that'd stop the 4544585484585 spam posts per minute ...
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:22 No.7702911
    >>7702885
    But even that's no good, you'd use up your three and people would just keep making new spam threads
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:23 No.7702926
    I feel like the secret to this thing's success is the idea that only SOME people would try to bury a good thread, whereas ALL people know a shit thread when they see it.
    >> PosterParent !!JVEkaVAk0gQ 03/11/10(Thu)13:26 No.7702956
    >>7702911
    >>7702910
    The problem is that you need to implement something to the spam flag option that people won't abuse that.

    To be honest, the best solution is having more and better moderators and janitors, but that's not quite a feasible idea.

    Oh, and to all those people who hate the Avatar/Goggles/Glau spam thread, I think most of those threads are just made by 1 person and he keeps spamming it in his own thread.

    If you would then flag a spammer, this would mean you'd stop a lot more spam, then just removing one post.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:28 No.7702993
    >>7702956
    >Oh, and to all those people who hate the Avatar/Goggles/Glau spam thread, I think most of those threads are just made by 1 person and he keeps spamming it in his own thread.

    Then you are the dumbest fucking Chuck on /tv/.
    >> Axolotl !iLoVeYOUvM 03/11/10(Thu)13:29 No.7703007
    the biggest problem right now is automated spamming, captcha will eliminate that entirely

    that will leave mods to focus on shit/offtopic threads
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:30 No.7703025
    It's very simple

    Permaban anyone who creates an Avatar thread, rule the board with an iron fist, don't give the trolls an inch.
    >> PosterParent !!JVEkaVAk0gQ 03/11/10(Thu)13:30 No.7703026
    >>7702993
    That's just what I think. I know that some people may tag along, but not that 20 people are spamming Glau. Usually about two or three.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:31 No.7703059
    >>7703025
    That requires somebody who actually gives a fuck enough to take care of /tv/ while never actually posting here again.

    It's unlikely.
    >> PosterParent !!JVEkaVAk0gQ 03/11/10(Thu)13:34 No.7703100
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    >>7703025
    All Avatar threads? I wouldn't mind it though. The problem is that /tv/ in general doesn't care about discussing movies, but about things like LOST or whatever series is popular.

    I mean, I made several threads about Bad Lieutenant, The Quiet Earth, and all kinds of movies and I get no response. Yesterday I made one about the Avatar Forums and I get 200 replies.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:37 No.7703151
    >>7703026
    >That's just what I think. I know that some people may tag along, but not that 20 people are spamming Glau. Usually about two or three.

    There used to be at least 20 before the trolls and spammers came out.

    They avoid 99% of her threads though nowadays.

    Just wait until new Glaus come back from that new convention, shit's gonna get real.
    >> User !!ns66oYRrCwr 03/11/10(Thu)13:39 No.7703189
    There is no perfect system to fix this problem short of nuking the AnonT base. /sci/ is working on a scientific method to think something up. Keep up with the ideas.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:43 No.7703241
    This is a weak solution because stuff that is not board related like spamming waifu images, disney starlets and forced memes will still be on the board, taking up space and shitting it up, except you won't be able to see it.
    It's basically like the 4chan "hide thread" addon.
    It doesn't solve anything, it simply makes it invisible.
    /tv/ being 50% bs threads makes this not really dealing with the problem, but ignoring it.
    It's saying "you can spam /tv/ all you want, but since you're now invisible to everyone else, it's okay".
    Also, the problem is that blatant attention whores like the forced meme posters and disney pedos will not like the lack of attention so they'll increase their posting and come to shit up regular threads with their cancer.
    This won't fix anything, it will just create another way to escalate the drama whoring here.
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:44 No.7703263
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    >>7703241
    I agree
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:45 No.7703277
    >>7703241
    Fuck off someplace else.

    I am not here for your amusement, but /tv/ is here for mine. And it accomplishes that.

    Why do you continue to hang around a place you don't like?

    Are you that big of a pathetic nigger with no fucking life?
    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:47 No.7703307
    >>7703277

    >I want board content to be board related

    reply :

    >Fuck off someplace else.
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    >> Anonymous 03/11/10(Thu)13:47 No.7703321
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    Captchas would be annoying as hell. Solution: kitten captchas.



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