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    54 KB Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:40 No.7630766  
    Ruralfag here. The nearest 3D theater is about 150 miles away. Tell me again why this piece of shit was considered good?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:40 No.7630768
    It's not.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:41 No.7630782
    Because the world is full of fucktards.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:42 No.7630784
    >>7630768
    /thread
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:42 No.7630785
    Because furries went to see it 25 times each giving the wrong impression of being popular.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:44 No.7630807
    I'd give it an award for the most obvious deus ex machina EVER...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:44 No.7630808
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    Haven't see this thread before. Please, do continue.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:44 No.7630814
    mmorpgfags saw it, dream they can become their avatars and fuckin cried when they realised they cannot and so they watch it again just to feel good about it
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:45 No.7630826
    For reasons you are obviously too dumb/disturbed to understand.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:46 No.7630831
    Well thanks for confirming what I already knew. This movie was predictable and boring as fuck. All I've been hearing is about how The Hurt Locker is such a shit movie compared to Avatar yet, while I thought The Hurt Locker was only "good", Avatar was unbelievably crappy.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:47 No.7630841
    >>7630826
    OSCARTOLD
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:47 No.7630842
    >>7630807
    if it's obvious is it really a deus ex machina?
    i mean it was set up all the way through the movie which is why it was expected
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:47 No.7630844
    >>7630831

    lol, enjoy your dvd rip.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:47 No.7630845
    An original troll? Oh, wait. Nope, it's the same old boring troll with the same old boring bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:48 No.7630853
    >>7630766
    Is it still playing at that 3D theater?

    I was under the impression most 3D theaters were contractually obliged to ditch the film for Alice in Wonderland.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:48 No.7630858
    Avatar = so much butthurt and FAIL.

    The Hurt Locker for the motherfucking WIN!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:48 No.7630859
    >>7630766
    Furfags that's what
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:48 No.7630863
    >>7630844

    Or, you know, you could be from Eastern Colorado, where shit hasn't happened in 10 years.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:48 No.7630866
    >>7630841
    >he gives a shit about an Academy that doesn't give best performance to George Clooney and best screenplay to Quentin Tarantino
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:49 No.7630872
    >>7630845
    >furry detected
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:49 No.7630873
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    >>7630858
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:49 No.7630879
    >>7630842
    >if it's obvious is it really a deus ex machina?
    Of course!!!! The Deus Ex Machina is about how contrived this random element is. It was impossible for the heroes to succeed without a "goddess"'s intervention. That's the very definition of a Deus Ex Machina, hell it's how it originated in greek theatre. It's fucking abysmal. Just b/c you knew that this level of terrible storytelling was going to unfold doesn't mean it wasn't terrible.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:49 No.7630880
    >>7630858
    This is what stupid people actually believe.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:50 No.7630885
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    >>7630866
    SO MUCH BUTTHURT
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:50 No.7630886
    >>7630866
    >Actually likes George Clooney and thinks he isn't an overrated douchebag with an ego a mile wide.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:51 No.7630892
    >>7630880
    That's what people who don't dress up in blue paint and try to buttfuck their pet cats believe.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:51 No.7630901
    >>7630842

    But we had them, we HAD THEM, I was hoping against all hope that maybe (just MAYBE) Cameron had the balls to allow the humans to kill off the blue menace, along with some poignant message about teh evils of greed (yadda yadda), but NO, we had to have the fucking planet coming to the rescue.

    I want fucking orbital bombardment in the sequel, and that race traitor crucified for his faggotry...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:51 No.7630904
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    >>7630880

    Your butt reconstructive surgery will be bigger than Avafail's budget.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:51 No.7630910
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    >>7630886
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:52 No.7630911
    >>7630879

    So you still haven't learned the definition of deus ex machina since the other thread where you wer proven wrong? I guess dumb people never learn.

    But for the record the defining characteristic of a deus ex machina is that it comes out of nowhere. Obviously Eywa doesn't fit the definition, hence it is not a deus ex machina. You're just caught up on the deus part of the word, without understanding the proper use of the term.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:52 No.7630917
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    >That's what people who don't dress up in blue paint and try to buttfuck their pet cats believe.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:52 No.7630918
    >>7630885
    >>7630886
    You two are very stupid people.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:53 No.7630929
    >>7630904
    Already projecting, are we?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:53 No.7630933
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    >>7630918
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:53 No.7630934
    >>7630911
    >is that it comes out of nowhere.
    No it isn't, but if it was, it would still apply.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:54 No.7630948
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    >>7630929

    How does it feel to have backed the faggot movie and lost?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:54 No.7630949
    >>7630901
    >I want fucking orbital bombardment in the sequel

    That's the most hilarious and glaring plot hole in the whole movie. Yeah, the little stupid blue furries live in peace until the giant spaceship that Mother Eywa can't do shit about hovers outside Pandora's atmosphere and turns the little faggots into nuclear vapor.

    Then, the mining op commences again.

    Anything other than this will be contrived bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:55 No.7630958
    >>7630911

    You fail, like, epically. Deus Ex Machina is about divine intervention, were a god (or it's equivalent) comes at the eleventh hour to turn the tide, which happened in Avatar, and was handled in such a gay way that it was painful to watch...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:55 No.7630973
    OP Here...well, I guess this threads a fucking lost cause...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:55 No.7630975
    >>7630958
    >You, like, so like, you know, like, you like, fail, like, because, like, I fell the need to , like, type like I actually like talk like which like is like a valley girl. Like.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:56 No.7630976
    >>7630948
    Dude, you should be telling me.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:56 No.7630977
    >>7630929

    >BUTTHURT CONFIRMED
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:56 No.7630985
    >>7630977
    Samefagging too, eh?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:57 No.7630989
    >>7630911
    Oh, so a goddess appearing in the last moments of a story to save the day and rescue our "heroes" from a problem that is completely beyond their aiblity to solve isn't a Deus Ex Machina?

    You'll spout any kind of bullshit to justify your furfaggotry, won't you?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:57 No.7630992
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    DELICIOUS AVABUTTHURT
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:58 No.7630999
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    >>7630976

    Let's do a recount. How many best film and best director oscars did your film win?

    Oh yeah... you're a furry.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:58 No.7631001
    >>7630992
    How insecure do you have to be to samefag so much?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:58 No.7631003
    >>7630934
    >No it isn't, but if it was, it would still apply.

    Yes it is, and no it wouldn't. It didn't come out of nowhere. Aren't you haters always saying how predictable the plot was? If it was predictable like you say, then how could that have come out of nowhere? You can't even keep your bullshit straight anymore. Not surprising for people so stupid they can't even understand what a deus ex machina is, even though they teach that to junior high school students.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:58 No.7631004
    >>7630949
    >>7630949
    >>7630949
    >>7630949
    >>7630949
    >>7630949
    >>7630949
    >>7630949
    This.

    I love that an entire military operation is fighting indiginous peoples and they forget to bring along a bomb. Got to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen.

    Oh, sure, they have battlemechs, but a MISSILE?! Pfffffft, that's crazy-talk.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:58 No.7631010
    >>7630999
    LOL
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:58 No.7631014
    >>7630949

    Jack is a retard if he believes that his little "victory" against something that equates a security firm/PMC is anything definitive...

    I mean, it's not like humans haven't set moral standards aside in pursuit of more practical goals before, and here it wouldn't even involve killing humans, just some blue cat savages.

    BTW, no need to nuke, just pepper the planet with custom tailored virus bombs and wait 6 months...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:59 No.7631016
    >>7630999
    And? What the hell is an award supposed to mean?

    .. Oh Christ, don't tell me you think The Hurt Locker is a good movie!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:59 No.7631018
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    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)07:59 No.7631021
    >>7631004
    >Oh, sure, they have battlemechs, but a MISSILE?! Pfffffft, that's crazy-talk.

    They had missiles. They fired hundreds of them into the big tree.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:00 No.7631028
    >>7630949

    so in the future private contractors and everyone else, can buy nukes in a shopping mall? sure it isn't Obama's administration.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:00 No.7631038
    >>7631004

    They're not military, just a security branch of the corp and therefore (I believe) have no access to battleships...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:01 No.7631039
    >>7631003
    It came out of nowhere in regards to the plot and the characters in it. Regardless of whether the audience knows it's coming or not, the characters were in an insolluble problem, the only escape from which was their goddess flying in on her Captain Planet war machine, which she did.

    We knew that it was the only way for these little morons to be saved, and they were.

    But in terms of the story it destroyed the internal logic (note that they even explicitly say in the movie that "Mother Eywa" doesn't interfere in shit).

    It was the only solution to their problem, so they brook the movie's own logic, and magically here came the planet to save the day.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:01 No.7631050
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    >>7631016

    >what is an award supposed to mean?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:01 No.7631051
    >>7631038
    >>7631038
    Oh, so they have access to gunships, battlemechs, and interstellar spaceships...but not missiles that could be fired from orbit?

    Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds?

    "Here, we trust you with the most advanced technology known to mankind. But not missiles! Nosir."
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:02 No.7631058
    >>7631039
    >It came out of nowhere in regards to the plot and the characters in it.

    No it didn't. They had spent the previous two hours talking about it. If you thought it came out of nowhere, then you are even dumber than I thought. Even my 7 year old nephew knew that was coming.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:02 No.7631061
    >>7631028
    Oh, so they let them have battlemechs, rockets, gunships, and interstellar spacecraft...but not a missile that could be fired form orbit? What, that's just risking too much?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:03 No.7631067
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    >>7631001
    YOUR BUTTHURT IS OFF THE CHARTS
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:03 No.7631073
    >>7631058
    They spent two hours saying she DOES NOT INTERFERE. And then, to save the heroes from their problem, she did. Yay.

    Go buttfuck your cat you blue furfag.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:04 No.7631080
    >>7631067
    Jeez, even I can see that you are samefagging...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:05 No.7631091
    >>7631061

    Why would they need a missile that big? There was no technologically advanced civilization on Pandora. Up until then all the conflicts had been small. There was no reason to believe the tribes would join together. There was no reason to bring orbital bombardment tech with them.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:06 No.7631094
    >>7631051
    >>7631061

    Are you seriously comparing the equivalent of having a Blackhawk and Apache to having a nuke?

    They aren't there to conquer the planet, nor it this an official, government backed expedition. It's just a mining company and it's security detail, that sure as fuck didn't expect the planet to assault them.

    And, btw, they still kicked blue furry ass...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:06 No.7631095
    >>7631067

    Goddamn those are seriously retarded.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:06 No.7631096
    >>7631001
    >>7631080

    SAMEFAG
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:07 No.7631112
    >>7631091
    >that big

    Big? Who needs big? They need a missile that they can fire from orbit so they don't have to engage the enemy in ground ops.

    FFS, they brought goddamn battlemechs and rockets and soldiers, but not a missile. That's ALL they need was one missile, and they just happen to forget ot bring it.

    And unless you're COMPLETELY retarded, then you do realize that Avatar 2 will consist of this:

    1. Spaceship arrives at Pandora.
    2. Spaceship lobs 1 missile at every single Na-Vi settlement.
    3. Mining resumes.

    What, you think the dire need for "unobtainium" is going to magically disappear b/c a bunch of fucking blue cat-furries threw sticks at some soldiers?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:08 No.7631123
    Hey! Did you guys know that Avafag Avafailed at EVERY FUCKING TURN?!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:09 No.7631129
    >>7631112
    This story is already better than Avatar 1
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:09 No.7631134
    Its not, stay home.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:09 No.7631135
    >>7631094
    I didn't sya "Nuke" did I retard? You keep putting words in my mouth to try and make your point (dat strawman!)

    They had missiles right? Fuckloads of missiles right? But not one that could be fired from their giant spaceship? It could have been no more powerful than a Tomahawk. THat's all they needed. 1 Tomahawk missile.

    But suuuuuuuuure, they have tanks, battlemechs, missiles, rockets, flamethrowers, a whole fucking arsenal, but not 1 missile that fires from orbit.

    Sure.

    Of course.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:10 No.7631153
    >>7631112

    Again, there was no perceived threat that would have warranted the need for an orbital platform of any kind, nor do we know if having something like that is allowed for a corporation.

    And BTW, the ship that came was a transport, designed to just bring shit, not orbit the planet and kill furries...

    In hindsight it might appear stupid, but it's like saying that you'd need an aircraft carrier to fight Native Americans...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:11 No.7631160
    >>7631073

    Exactly, moron. That's why it was good. There was no hope because Eywa wasn't going to protect anyone, but then Eywa changes its mind and saves the day. It's like the Rhohirrim in Lord of the Rings. They were going to be neutral do-nothing buttfuckers but then they changed their mind and saved the day at Gondor. Those sort of turning of the tide moments make a movie that much better.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:13 No.7631177
    >>7631153
    >Implying so much shit that isn't specifically mentioned once in the movie.
    1. They never said it was solely transport.
    2. If they didn't think there was a threat from the Na'Vi then that's why they brought battlemechs, tanks, gunships, rockets, flamethrowers, etc.? To play pattycake with the natives?
    3. And that's the best part, as you so eloquently point out. These people had the technology of Native Americans yet beat a force that was armed better than current technology even allows for. So ludicrous it makes your head spin.

    And, all in all, further proof that Avatar 2 consists of a missile bombardment from space, lasting all of 1 hour, followed by mining.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:13 No.7631186
    >>7631160
    >Doesn't understand that he just called a Deus Ex Machina a "good" storytyelling element.

    So. So. So. Stupid.

    Furries will stoop to no lows to try and share their furfaggotry with the world, will they?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:13 No.7631189
    >>7631135

    Seriously dude, were on the same fucking side, I wanted the Na'vi just as dead, but you keep confusing a mining operation with a fully fledged military expedition..

    Remember that they had to "improvise" their bomber. The scope of their arsenal was to protect the human mining base, not fight a war with the savages...
    >> ZEN !Nigger/OcE 03/08/10(Mon)08:13 No.7631190
    >>7630949
    the biggest plothole was the fact that instead of using conventional bombing techniques the Coffee mug guy decided to fill a cargo plane with raw exsplosives and push them out the door.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:14 No.7631199
    >>7631160
    Lmfao, you do realize that you just admitted it's a Deus Ex Machina right?
    >Eywa changed her mind
    Ohhhh, the Goddess who NEVER interferes broke the internal logic of the story and MAGICALLY appears at the 1 second she's needed most to save our poor beleaguered heroes! HOORAY! (Deus Ex Machina)
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:15 No.7631208
    >>7631177

    How do you not understand a concept so simple? They knew the Na'vi were hostile and a threat. But not a big enough threat to warrant orbital nukes. They thought they could contain the Na'vi with a few gunships and some conventional explosives. They were wrong. They will probably return with even more firepower.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:15 No.7631215
    >>7631189
    And yet they had missiles and gunships, didn't they? Nod your head.

    So they had missiles. Lots of missiles. But magically didn't have one that could be fired from 1 mile in the air.

    That is, literally, your argument. Congratulations on being an apologist for James Cameron's inferior storytelling.
    >> ZEN !Nigger/OcE 03/08/10(Mon)08:15 No.7631216
    >>7631190
    also high tech battle amour cant even stop arrows.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:16 No.7631218
    >>7631135

    sure, orbital weapons, can i have some for me? sounds like the second amendment.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:17 No.7631227
    >>7631199
    Broke the internal logic? So the navi were wrong. Deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:17 No.7631233
    /r/ing shoop of Na'Vi arrows penetrating Titanic's hull
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    >>7631199

    You still don't know the definition of deus ex machina do you? The defining characteristic is that it is a new element introduced at the last moment to change the story. Eywa was not a new element. It was introduced hours before hand.

    How can you be this stupid? It is not a hard concept to grasp.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:17 No.7631237
    >>7631208
    >>7631208
    >>7631208
    :>orbital nukes

    I love how you keep saying something as though that's what I said. Listen carefully you dumb fucking child: I never said nukes. They didn't NEED nukes. They needed 1 missile. 1

    A single tomahawk which, omfg, we have today, let alone in the future, and they could've ended the whole problem couldn't they? Yet they have no tomawhawk.

    They have OTHER missiles, by the thousands, but not the single 1 they need to win.

    So they thought it was worth bringing FUCKLOADS of missiles and gunships but not 1 single missile that could have made the Na'Vi lose? How CONVENIENT! Why it's almost as convenient as a goddess showing up in the last 2 seconds to save the day!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:19 No.7631252
    >>7631216
    >>7631216
    >>7631216
    Lmfao, that was also awesome.

    "Battlemechs designed for hand to hand combat and gunships designed for dogfights...brought down by sticks."

    So goddamn stupid.

    And the bigass knife for the mech. Hilariously retarded.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:19 No.7631254
    >>7631237
    >A single tomahawk which, omfg, we have today, let alone in the future, and they could've ended the whole problem couldn't they?

    No. One tomahawk wouldn't kill several million Na'vi spread all over the planet. Did you think all the Na'vi would stand still on a giant red X and wait for the bomb to hit them?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:19 No.7631255
    >>7631177

    1. Admittedly yes, but to me it didn't look like a battleship
    2. Tanks? There were no tanks, and the rest of the equipment was there to secure the survaivl of the base, since Pandora isn't that much of a friendly planet.
    3. The Na'vi beat shit, by the time the Deus Ex Machina happened they were in full retreat, with the tails between their legs...

    >>7631190

    Maybe because Colonel Badass didn't have a bomber at hand?
    >> ZEN !Nigger/OcE 03/08/10(Mon)08:19 No.7631258
    >>7631234
    but it was established that she NEVER interfered.

    And then she interfered for no raisin.
    >> ZEN !Nigger/OcE 03/08/10(Mon)08:20 No.7631268
    >>7631254
    it would of blew up the internet tree.
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    >>7631258
    Interfered for no reason? ............................
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:21 No.7631272
    Listen to you faggots, seriously, both sides, listen to yourselves.

    Shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:21 No.7631278
    >>7631258

    And? That's changing her mind. That's not deus ex machina. Learn the difference. It would only be deus ex machina if they introduced Eywa at the last second and said, "Oh, btw. There's a god thing here and now it'll save us. We never mentioned it before because we were too busy."

    If it was mentioned beforehand, that's not a deus ex machina. DEMs only come when there is no foreshadowing. If the story foreshadows it, it's not a DEM.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:22 No.7631284
    >>7631234
    >>7631227
    Deus Ex Machina is when the "internal logic" of a movie/sotry/whatever is broken to save the heroes in the last moment.

    The entire movie sets up that Captain Eywa Planet never interferes, but then, just so happens to do so the one moment that the heroes absolutely needed her to.

    Deus. Ex. Machina.

    If you would just ADMIT it and say "I liked it anyways" you'd defeat the criticism. Just admit it and stop being James Cameron's apologists. It's pathetic that you have so much vested in this movie not having a massive Deus Ex Machina at the end.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:22 No.7631287
    >>7631252

    The primary weapon of the mecha was the bigass rifle, while the knife was a backup. The VTOLs were fighting like that because the floating islands fucked up their targeting systems, so they had to fire using line of sight...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:23 No.7631294
    >>7631254
    >No. One tomahawk wouldn't kill several million Na'vi spread all over the planet

    Did you even watch the movie, moron?

    They weren't trying to blow up "all the Na'Vi" they were trying to blow up 1 tree.

    1 tree.

    They didn't have the 1 missile that could shoot a damn tree.

    That is your argument.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:24 No.7631303
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    Also, let's not forget... Let's not forget, to pack Tomahawks, in case we need to blow up some radar station or a bunker.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:24 No.7631304
    >>7631287
    My god do you even listen to yourself?

    I feel like I walked into a Star Trek convention and said transporter techonlogy was silly.

    OH SWEET JESUS the technobabble explanations!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:24 No.7631309
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    Why didn't the Eagles just fly the One Ring into Mordor?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:24 No.7631314
    >>7631303
    Yup, but let's bring a fleet of gunships and battlemechs and soldiers and flamethrowers and rifles. HURP DURP
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:25 No.7631329
    >>7631294

    If only they could have seen into the future, rite?

    Why the fuck do you keep being so obstinate, they didn't bring over something that big because they thought they had no need for it, nor did they predict the race traitor fucking them over and zergrushing them...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:26 No.7631332
    >>7631278
    >Waaaaaaaaaaaah, I'll never admit this movie had a Deus Ex Machina because everything I am in a person is tied into Avatar being perfect in every way! Waaaaaaaaaaah
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:26 No.7631338
    >>7631329
    Yes, if only they had brought weapons to Pandora!

    OHWAIT! They brought an entire fucking army to Pandora.

    But not a missile.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:26 No.7631341
    >>7631332
    >I'll never admit that I don't understand what a deus ex machina is because my internet reputation would be ruined.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:28 No.7631358
    >>7631329
    >that big
    who said big? You keep saying "nukes" and "big". It isn't big. It's a missile. It is no crazier than bringing an army of mecha-warriors with big-ass-knives (god that was gay) and a fleet of combat ships. The only reason they didn't bring it is because it would've fucked the Na'vi in their furry butts.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:28 No.7631360
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    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:29 No.7631374
    >>7631304

    I'm going along the movie logic. The floating mountains fuck their sensors, the why it happens they don't explain, it's just a cheap reason to evade the assrape the Na'vi would have suffered with advanced targeting tech...

    And if you're gonna build a humanoid mechanized frame, give it five digit hands and have it carry a rifle why the fuck not give it a knife as well? It's not like ti's such a fucking bother, and it might come in handy...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:29 No.7631380
    >>7631341
    >Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, Avatar doesn't have a Deus Ex Machina! I could be an adult and just admit I like the movie inspite of it having a Deus Ex Machina, but my entire soul and being is wrapped into Avatar being perfect in every way!!! James Cameron and his writing are flawless and couldn't possibly be questioned!!! I will spend hours rationalizing whatever I must to keep Avatar as my holy, sacred relic!!!!


    Come to think of it, you remind me of religious people who still refuse to believe in evolution.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:30 No.7631383
    >>7631314

    yup, lightweight perimeter defence stuff.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:30 No.7631394
    >>7631374
    >And if you're gonna build a humanoid mechanized frame, give it five digit hands and have it carry a rifle why the fuck not give it a knife as well?

    Yeah, that's actually what I mostly had a problem with, in that that was all gayer than aids.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:31 No.7631401
    >>7631383
    >Implying a fleet of ships that outdoes many airforce bases is "light defense" HURP DURP
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:31 No.7631403
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    >>7631252
    >I know! I'll clear this dense forest with my bullets, I have an unlimited supply and it'll work fine. HAHAHHA!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:32 No.7631416
    >>7631374
    >>7631374
    >religious people

    That's it. That's the key to all the rationalizing and bullshit explanations. This shit is like your religion. You have wrapped your head around this made-up crap to the point that your veyr being rests on it being 100% right all the time and thus you will spew whatever nonsense you have to to defend the stupidity of it.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:32 No.7631417
    >>7631380

    Get a dictionary and you'll see why you're wrong. But I guess facts don't fit in with your faith. Why learn the definition and proper use of words when they don't support your preconceived notions? This is America, we don't need no damned books or words.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:32 No.7631422
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    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:33 No.7631429
    >>7631403
    Yes, because a robot with a big knife in its hands is more effective than a robot with a chainsaw.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:33 No.7631436
    >>7631394

    (Bipedal) mecha operate on the "Rule of cool" logic. They make no fucking sense, you just gotta go with it.

    Still, the D9 mecha was so much more badass...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:33 No.7631440
    >>7631417
    >Oh holy James Cameron, bestow unto me your light! I will defend Avatar to my grave!

    Do you worship Eywa too?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:34 No.7631448
    >>7631429
    >robot with a chainsaw.

    These should be in the sequel. Fund it.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:35 No.7631459
    >>7631440
    >Fuck dictionaries. I don't need to know facts.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:35 No.7631465
    I haven't heard of The Hurt Locker before, is it about some American High School student who gets put in his locker and cries?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:35 No.7631471
    >>7631429
    >Don't mind me, I have unlimited gas here on pandora and everytime it breaks down I just take it to the local mechanic! And dont get me started on how quite my chainsaw is, nothing will be able to hear my chainsaw!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:35 No.7631477
    >>7631416

    The fuck?

    You did read the part about movie logic, right? I'm not saying that the movie hadn't (many) questionable leaps of logic, it's just that nitpicking over a human shaped mecha having a knife as a backup seems retarded...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:36 No.7631478
    >>7631459
    >>7631459
    A deus ex machina (pronounced /ˈdeɪ.əs ɛks ˈmɑːkinə/ or /ˈdiː.əs ɛks ˈmækɨnə/,[1] literally, in Latin, "god from the machine") is a plot device whereby a previously intractable problem is suddenly and abruptly solved with a contrived introduction of a new character, ability, or object. It is generally considered to be a poor storytelling technique because it undermines the story's internal logic.


    Dat is some Avatar right there.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:37 No.7631503
    I don't really understand why people dislike the knife so much. The suit is basically upscaled human with an upscaled gun... But an upscaled knife is ridiculous, somehow.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:38 No.7631508
    >>7631471
    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

    Wait, so the Mechs themselves have unlimited fuel or whatever, and so do the huge-giant-massive tree clearing things. But their saws wouldn't. That's way beyond the scope of belief.

    Do you even fucking listen to yourself?

    So you have no problem believing ALL The other shit in this movie, but it would stretch credulity that a big saw could attach to the mech and feed off of its internal power source?

    THAT stretches the limits of your beliefs?

    You people really are like religious lunatics. You're a bunch of half-crazed fundamentalists who can't see two feet past your holy movie.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:38 No.7631511
    >>7631465
    Its a shit film about iraq war. Thats it, avatar was assraped by unpopular war drama. Made by Cameron's wife to add insult to injury.

    Haha, avatards. If you lost with a wortthy opponent, it would be understandable. But this - this is equivalent of getting beaten by a preshool kid.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:38 No.7631513
    >>7631401

    it's not like they had to cover only one digging spot.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:39 No.7631521
    >>7631478
    >contrived introduction of a new character, ability, or object.
    >new
    >new
    >new

    Eywa wasn't new.

    Your status:
    [X] TOLD
    [ ] NOT TOLD

    You got told in the previous thread too. Yet you don't learn from the first told, you just keeping getting told again and again.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:40 No.7631535
    >>7631508

    As far as I can see, there's us, not really liking the movie, but not really being bothered by some "plot holes" (lack of holy missile of mass death, for example) and you screeching at us for being zelatons...
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:40 No.7631536
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    >>7631503
    If they had instead put an upscaled trimmer on it we would be ok. wat
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:40 No.7631540
    >>7631478
    It's a shame cameron cut out the animals constantly attacking hells gate and they were in the fight from the start at the end, due to the run time limit of IMAX he couldn't show this.

    He should of cut the sex scene
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:40 No.7631542
    >>7631521
    Eywa interfering in the affairs of the things on the planet WAS new. That would fall under the "new ability" portion, there partner.

    In fact the movie had established she flat-out didn't interfere.

    That would be akin to, say, in Star Wars they spend all 3 movies saying that Darth Vader could choke people to death with his thoughts but when in a duel with the hero in the last movie he suddenly forgot that he had this ability.

    Ohwait-
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:41 No.7631557
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    >>7631508
    >He doesn't even know how a mech is powered!
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:42 No.7631562
    >>7631557
    Yup, just not Avatard enough.
    >> ZEN !Nigger/OcE 03/08/10(Mon)08:43 No.7631573
    my favorite moment of the oscars.

    And the nominees are....

    James Cameron!
    (no one claps)
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:44 No.7631585
    >>7631542
    >In fact the movie had established she flat-out didn't interfere.

    No it didn't. It had established already that Eywa was a guardian, who did not choose sides in the tribal battles. But she was still established as a guardian. Thus she acted as a guardian. None of that was new. You really need to watch the movie again because you clearly didn't get it the first time. It wasn't that deep but it went over your head.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:44 No.7631587
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    >>7631562
    >Doesn't know how anything works
    >Claims false faults
    >Calls me religious
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:44 No.7631588
    >>7631521
    >i declare myself victorious. A WINNER AM I.

    Say this hundred times, and you might even belive it yourself.

    But the bottom line is that abatap ended thanks to intervention of a local god, that appeared at last possible moment to save your heroes furry asses. Lets face it - all this big red dragon, and brave indian warriors wasted their time for nothing. Whole final battle was pointless waste of time. They would do better sitting around their tree and singing kumbaya, because Deus appeared Ex Machina, and won the war all by itseslf. Yay.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:45 No.7631606
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    >>7631585
    >>7631585
    My face when the Avatar forums describe it as a Deus Ex Machina

    http://www.avatar-forums.com/plot-script-discussion/2608-eywa-ex-machina-3.html
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:46 No.7631614
    >>7631588

    A post with that many spelling and grammar errors can't be taken seriously.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:46 No.7631622
    >>7631606
    I wish I'd thought of their phrase "Eywa Ex Machina"
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:46 No.7631631
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    >>7631588
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:47 No.7631633
    >>7631614
    Butthurt that he's right? Whole final battle: Waste of time. Eywa does everything. The end.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:47 No.7631641
    >>7631606

    Avatar forums are wrong? Who would have guessed? Because it's not a deus ex machina. It had been well established and was consistent with the internal logic of the movie. Hence it can not be a deus ex machina.

    Just because it's a deity doesn't make it a deus ex machina. The gods in Clash of the Titans aren't deus ex machina. They are merely characters in the story, like Eywa is in Avatar.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:47 No.7631648
    >>7631606
    See? How hard is that Avatards? Look at what the mature Avatar fans did?

    "It had a huge Deus Ex Machina but I liked it anyways"
    "I thought it appealed to me."

    You could learn a lesson.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:48 No.7631656
    >>7631562
    Er. Wasn't it quite clear from the sound that they had conventional gas turbine engines?
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:48 No.7631657
    >>7631641
    Er....um...dude...actually the story of Perseus, the Illiad, the Odyssey are classic examples of Deus Ex Machinas sooooo....um...should probably stop using those as examples of how this movie "isn't" a deus ex machina.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:49 No.7631661
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    >>7631614
    >I have no valid arguments
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:49 No.7631670
    >>7631648

    Because they're wrong. A deus ex machina has the following characteristics:

    1. Comes out of nowhere with no introduction
    2. Solves a problem

    Eywa does #2 but does not do #1. It doesn't meet the criteria of a deus ex machina.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:50 No.7631681
    >>7631656
    So then your argument is that they had a fuckload of gas for the mecha warriors but putting a saw on one is way impossible because of fuel considerations?

    Just say it: The knife was stupid and looked hockey and lame. I mean, really, what guy says "I want a big fucking robot, and put hand son it and shit, and a bigass fucking knife because fuck it."
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:50 No.7631691
    >>7631670
    Lol, if you think it didn't do 1 then you're the best troll I've ever seen.
    >> Anonymous 03/08/10(Mon)08:51 No.7631704
    >>7631691

    It was introduced and established. So how could it come out of nowhere when we knew it was there? You are the troll.



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