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    179 KB Cop Shows - The Best & The Worst Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:15 No.6935777  
    I used to like the Law & Order shows, back when I was like ten, back when only the original was on air. Once you start watching the news, and forensic shows though, you can see how at some point the formula just became "Take a big story, spice it up with murder conspiracy, wrap it with bizarre attorneys making asinine legal defenses no one would be stupid enough to try in real life, and end with the richest white person being the killer." It becomes even more formulaic when you realize while they're interviewing four "suspects" and three of them are nobodies with New York accents, and the fourth is a fairly recognizable actor, that's the culprit.

    SVU is ten times worse, because you have to acknowledge that every single script has to involve some form of rape. I'm sure there's been a situation where someone handed in a script only to have the producers toss it back and say "There's not enough rape in this!" but it focuses more on the actors which makes the show asinine, especially with the abundance of government conspiracies, car crashes, and exploding buildings in the show. A particularly bad example is when Olivia is driving Stabler's pregnant wife to get an exam, and a car crashes into them. After Olivia is pulled out of the car with a concussion, the paramedics send her back into the car to perform first aid on Stabler's wife, who naturally goes into labor.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:17 No.6935797
    Agreed, they suck.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:23 No.6935889
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    The Shield was a fairly realistic show about dirty cops, and a few good cops trying to stay clean while interacting with them. Most of the characters are a little dirty by the end of the series, and no one gets off completely scott-free. The writing was consistently great too.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:25 No.6935917
    >>6935889
    A Cop Tragedy of Shakespearean quality
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:27 No.6935942
    "You're only allowed to do this job for 3 years before they rotate you out."

    "Brb 15 years."
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:29 No.6935970
    most cop shows blow dick ass and balls because they paint the police as heroes. the shield, and the wire to a lesser extent are the only shows brave enough to show cops as bastards
    >> Ausonymous !.PKzdt0e5c 01/29/10(Fri)16:30 No.6935984
    >>6935777
    because
    >SVU
    is for people sexually assaulted.

    Best:
    The Shield
    The Wire
    Homicide - Life on the Street

    I used to be a fan of L&O, still am. haven't really seen any other shows except for CSI, which is horrible. Southland was pretty good at the end of its season 1 run.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:30 No.6935996
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    Grissom was the only character that made the show watchable, and he already jumped ship.

    While the science is generally sound, the show still becomes retarded every time a CSI pulls a gun on a suspect and announces they're from the crime lab. CSI's don't chase suspects, they don't arrest people, they don't interrogate people. Marg Helgenberger's character is neck & neck with Jorja Fox for being the most annoying character on the show. She only ever opens her mouth to talk about how she used to be a showgirl, get butthurt and territorial about a case and demand she be put in charge, or vomit out some of what are obviously the actresses political beliefs.

    CSI: NY suffers from the same flaws, but tries to be taken more seriously, while CSI: Miami doesn't seem bothered at all about being ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:30 No.6935999
    SVU is seriously the worst show on television and I hope that anyone who watches it
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:35 No.6936066
    God, I fucking hate SVU. They're so goddamn moralistic. "SHE'S ONLY SEVENTEEN AND THREE-QUARTERS YEARS OLD! YOU DISGUSTING PEDOPHILE!!!" They're the modern-day Dragnet.

    That and having former pimp Ice-T as a sex-crimes cop. lol, irony.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:37 No.6936085
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    Cold Case is one of the more interesting cop shows I've seen, I don't like how some episodes end with one of the cops having a vision of the dead victim smiling at them like they're schizophrenic, but the writing and stories are interesting, and the music and clothing choices during the flashbacks tend to make me nostalgia, hard, and feel kinda old.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:37 No.6936096
    I fantasize frequently about disciplining the SVU writing crew.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:38 No.6936118
    >>6936085
    Cold Case has "very special episodes", like that one about transgenderism. I hate shows that preach.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:38 No.6936119
    >>6936066
    I agree that SVU sucks, but disagree with the rest of your post, and your reasoning. Dragnet was awesome, and your hypothetical example is shit.

    Although, lol at the writer of Copkiller playing a cop.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:39 No.6936128
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    I think we can all agree what the best cop show ever is.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:39 No.6936137
    >>6936119
    >Dragnet

    >Hippies took too much acid and drowned their baby

    whatthefuckamiwatching.jpg
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:40 No.6936157
    Anyone watch Life on Mars? I mean the original (and good) British one.

    Shit was fantastic.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:41 No.6936169
    >>6936085

    I haven't watched Cold Case for a few years, but when I did every episode ended with the blonde chick with the funny mouth having visions and staring dramatically into the middle distance.

    Without a Trace was better.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:41 No.6936180
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    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:42 No.6936199
    >>6936157

    This. Ashes to Ashes ain't so bad either.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:43 No.6936200
    >>6936118
    I don't recall that, remind me?

    From what I recall, it's usually just revisiting a case from at least a decade ago, and putting the pieces together by interviewing all of the now older characters, and flashing back to their lives back then.

    Some of the episodes, especially that involved a teenager or little kid getting killed seriously made me sad.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:43 No.6936202
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    cop rock. best. cop show. evar.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:44 No.6936224
    >>6936137
    That actually makes perfect sense, what are you bitching about? I know the episode about pot was a little out there, but acid will fuck you up and make you do stupid shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:45 No.6936237
    >>6936224
    have you even done acid?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:45 No.6936239
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    Minus chunks of season 3 and 4, it was pretty win.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:48 No.6936271
    ITT we bitch about a show having too much rape when the premise is that they investigate sex crimes.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:49 No.6936286
    >>6936119
    >Dragnet was awesome
    It was okay for it's time, but it could get pretty fucking preachy when it came to drugs.
    >your hypothetical example is shit
    Bullshit, I've lost count of how many times they've acted like fucking a horny, willing teenager was EXACTLY THE SAME as raping a newborn baby. like the episode where Stabler (lol again) flipped out on the boutique store employee for getting a blowjob from a highschooler in exchange for some product.

    What kind of faggot *wouldn't* take that deal?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:50 No.6936289
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    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:50 No.6936291
    >>6936271
    It's a stupid premise designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:51 No.6936304
    >>6936237
    >>I SURVIVED A GUNSHOT, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE NOT HARMFUL OMG
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:51 No.6936310
    >>6936304
    lolwut
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:53 No.6936334
    >>6936286
    >>What kind of faggot *wouldn't* take that deal?

    The kind who isn't so hard-pressed for sex, and pathetic that he can only get it from someone who would get him sent to jail? The kind who has a moral compass?

    >>Bullshit, I've lost count of how many times they've acted like fucking a horny, willing teenager was EXACTLY THE SAME as raping a newborn baby

    You're ignoring that they can't consent, whether or not they're horny is irrelevant you fucking pedophile, and don't give me this equivalency bullshit, that's like saying it's okay to kill one person because someone else killed six. It's a pathetic, fallacious argument and you should feel ashamed for presenting it.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:54 No.6936349
    SVU is awesome because I liked watching angry cop's simmering rage continue to grow and grow until he just starts beating the shit out pedos. They seem to have cooled him down some though.

    Also the SO BELIEVABLE plots.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:56 No.6936374
    >>6936334
    > they can't consent

    Get the government's dick out of your mouth, faggot. Law does not dictate reality.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:57 No.6936388
    >>6936334
    > It's a pathetic, fallacious argument

    You mean that strawman you just made?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)16:58 No.6936410
    NCIS
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:00 No.6936436
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    (oh look... an other GOOD show that Jay Leno and his not wanting to leave NBC killed)

    pic related

    (Gets bonus points in my book as it isn't just about a bunch of detectives and lawyers)
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:01 No.6936445
    >>6936334
    lol, nice try

    -10/10
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:10 No.6936600
    >>6936445
    >>6936388
    >>6936374
    Samefag.

    Also, you're trying to argue that it's less wrong to have sex with a teenage girl than with a newborn, like that somehow makes taking advantage of someone whose brain has not fully developed yet okay because it's not as bad, which is like someone arguing it's okay they robbed a grocery store because they didn't rob a bank. Wrong idiot, they're both still wrong. It's a shit argument.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:11 No.6936629
    >>6936310
    LSD destroys your mind, you can have flashbacks years after having taken it. Two people hallucinating that they have to drown a baby makes perfect sense. This is the same substance that routinely causes people to throw themselves through windows, and cut their arms open because they see bugs crawling under their skin.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:12 No.6936644
    >>6936128
    It's funny, but completely meh.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:24 No.6936843
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    >>6936600
    I'm starting to think you're lecturing yourself there. you have a not-so-secret love of the young 'uns, like those homophobes that can't admit they love the cock.

    Here's a little something to torture yourself with, pervert.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:27 No.6936893
    >>6936629 I think urban legends are real and don't understand that people dope acid with other shit, which is the real problem
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:33 No.6936984
    >>6936843
    0/10

    That didn't even make sense.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:34 No.6936995
    >>6936893
    >>I am a drug addict who writes off factual documentaries and police reports as urban legends in a pathetic attempt to defend my use of illicit substances.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:35 No.6936998
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    >>6936629
    >HURR DURR
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:35 No.6937012
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    >>6936995
    >HURRDURRHURRDURRDURR
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:38 No.6937041
    Original L&O never pulled the stupid bullshit that SVU consistently does.

    They had someone die, then spend half the episode figuring out who and why then prosecuting that asshole. You can call it formulaic, but it was a perfect formula as far as cop shows go.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:39 No.6937054
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    >>6936995
    >factual documentaries
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:40 No.6937062
    I really like The Shield and Southland.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)17:49 No.6937165
    >>6936984
    Sure it didn't. Enjoy being in denial about your sick cravings, you disgusting pedophile.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:01 No.6937307
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    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:07 No.6937362
    >>6937054
    >>6937012
    >>6936998
    >>Drugs have so thoroughly erased my mind, I can only reply to arguments with image macros, and my trolling skills are akin to that of a 14 year old newfag from Gaia.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:10 No.6937399
    >>6937307
    The Wire isn't really a cop show. But let's not get into that debate.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:14 No.6937441
    >>6936600
    it's not the same

    Are you saying having sex with a girl being 17 years and 364 days old is wrong but a girl being 18years old is perfectly ok?

    That 1 day somehow makes her an adult and makes it ok.

    Say 17 years old, why can't they have sex (with somebody older then 18)?

    I'm not talking 2 year olds and shit, that is wrong, but I don't see the case if the person is old enough to die for his country.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:15 No.6937453
    >>6936600
    > you're trying to argue that it's less wrong to have sex with a teenage girl than with a newborn

    While I didn't make that argument, it's obviously true.

    > someone whose brain has not fully developed

    The brain is never "fully developed", nor is there any reason it would need to be. It just needs to be developed enough to deal with the fairly simple implications of sex.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:17 No.6937483
    >>6937441
    >Are you saying having sex with a girl being 17 years and 364 days old is wrong but a girl being 18years old is perfectly ok?

    Huh? 15 is legal in civilized countries. gb2/botswana/
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:19 No.6937505
    >>6937483
    america
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:20 No.6937513
    >>6935777
    >SVU is ten times worse,

    SVU is the only cop show I like.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:20 No.6937514
    >>6937453
    You're intentionally ignoring the point. Whether or not one is more or less wrong doesn't change that they are both wrong, providing a more extreme example to make your case seem less wrong is pathetic, idiotic, and fallacious, and you know it.

    And the brain finishes developing once puberty has concluded, meaning 25.

    And again, you're trying to justify having sex with someone underage with strawman fallacies, and technicalities, and an absurdly twisted ill-logic.

    It's not normal to seek sex with someone below your peer group, it indicates you can't operate on an equal intellectual level with someone your own age, and so have to target someone you can manipulate. i.e. a girl of age is less likely to be impressed by pedophile bullshit like "Wanna see my dick?" or "I'll give you a beer."
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:20 No.6937520
    >>6936600
    >Also, you're trying to argue that it's less wrong to have sex with a teenage girl than with a newborn

    My god you're an idiot. Please kill yourself for the good of humanity.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:21 No.6937529
    >>6937483
    Worldwide average is 16.

    Keep in mind this is pulled down by countries like Canada where it's as low as 14, and 8 in parts of Mexico.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:23 No.6937544
    >>6937520
    No matter how many times you keep quoting one line from one post, and intentionally ignoring the entire rest of the argument because it demonstrates that your entire argument is fucking retarded and without merit, and you're a worthless degenerate blight on society, it will still demonstrate -by your inability to respond to the rest of it- that you're admitting your argument has been destroyed.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:24 No.6937560
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    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:25 No.6937563
    >Whether or not one is more or less wrong doesn't change that they are both wrong
    >Durr my country's laws dictate what's morally wrong and right.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:27 No.6937584
    >>6937563
    Strawman fallacy, I never mentioned the law, or which country I'm from.

    If a college professor has sex with his students, is he not abusing his position of authority and older age over his students?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:28 No.6937592
    >>6937563
    If you can't smoke, drink, join the military or vote, you shouldn't be able to consent either.

    If you can commit a crime and not be tried as an adult, you can't consent either.

    It's a very simple formula, pedophile.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:29 No.6937599
    >>6937560
    >Canada 16

    It's as low as 14 if both participants are within 2 years age of each other. It used to be 12, but that changed last year.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:29 No.6937604
    > Whether or not one is more or less wrong doesn't change that they are both wrong

    Having sex with a teenager isn't wrong in the least.

    > providing a more extreme example to make your case seem less wrong is pathetic, idiotic, and fallacious, and you know it.

    I'm not >>6936286-san, but his point is valid. SVU groups "statutory rapists" with child molesters by (incorrectly) using terms like "pedophile" to describe both.

    > And the brain finishes developing once puberty has concluded, meaning 25.

    "Finishes developing" doesn't even make sense. Different parts of the brain peak at wildly different times. The brain continues to change and "develop" until death. And again, there is no reason why it should need to be "finished".

    > it indicates you can't operate on an equal intellectual level with someone your own age

    I guess you're not familiar with the concept of sexual orientation.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:29 No.6937609
    >>6937483
    So I guess the only civilized countries are in Africa?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:31 No.6937628
    >>6937584
    Not necessarily, no.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:35 No.6937682
    >>6937604
    >>Having sex with a teenager isn't wrong in the least.

    If you're a teenager, not really. If you're an adult targeting someone who is still by definition a child, yes it is extremely wrong. A teenager can't completely understand the consequences of their actions, and is more susceptible to peer pressure.

    >>SVU groups "statutory rapists" with child molesters by (incorrectly) using terms like "pedophile" to describe both.

    Would you just give up with trying to justify your lust for girls who have not finished puberty yet? I like how you put quotations on statutory rapist. You want them to use the more specific term of ephebophile? Your complaint is like trying to argue it's wrong to group people who get off on bloodletting in the S&M category. It's a sub-section of the same term, pedophile in this instance is used in the broader sense to describe people attracted to children who have no completed puberty.

    >>"Finishes developing" doesn't even make sense

    Durr-hurr, puberty continues until death.

    >>I guess you're not familiar with the concept of sexual orientation.

    That doesn't even make sense, are you still trying to justify lusting after underage girls?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:36 No.6937695
    >>6937628
    Qualify that statement.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:38 No.6937709
    ITT: People getting trolled. Hard.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:39 No.6937735
    >>6937682
    >If you're a teenager, not really. If you're an adult targeting someone who is still by definition a child, yes it is extremely wrong.
    Ok, lets say that in my country I'm 18 years old, which is legally considered an adult. If I were to have sex with a 17 year old, is that wrong?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:45 No.6937802
    >>6937789

    Are you fucking kidding? NCIS is ok, but no where near being the "best".
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:47 No.6937820
    >>6937789
    Original CSI is ok.
    Everything else is shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:48 No.6937828
    > someone who is still by definition a child

    As defined by who? The government? Robert Epstein has shown that the categorization of teenagers as "children" has no biological grounding.

    > A teenager can't completely understand the consequences of their actions

    The average teenager can easily understand the potential consequences of sex -- STDs and pregnancy. Not rocket science, here.

    > Durr-hurr, puberty continues until death.

    Brain development =/= puberty.

    > It's a sub-section of the same term

    Pedophiles are people sexually oriented towards _prepubescent_ children.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:48 No.6937833
    >>6937735
    Could be, but legally that would usually fall under Romeo & Juliet laws, which allow you to be within 2 years of your partner's age. Meaning at 18 it would be okay for you to be with a 16 year old.

    Just drop the stupid hypotheticals though.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:51 No.6937861
    I'm not surprised /tv/ dislikes SVU, given that 4chan has more than its fair share of pedos.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:51 No.6937864
    >>6937833
    Hint: There's a difference between "wrong" and "illegal".
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:53 No.6937880
    >>6937861
    The show is about catching pedos and throwing them in jail. Yeah, can't imagine why pedos wouldn't like that.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:53 No.6937886
    >>6937828
    child
      /tʃaɪld/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [chahyld] Show IPA
    Use child in a Sentence
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    –noun, plural chil⋅dren.
    1. a person between birth and full growth; a boy or girl: books for children.

    If they haven't completed puberty, they're still defined as a child.

    ped·o·phile (pěd'ə-fīl', pē'də-)
    n. An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.
    ped'o·phil'ic (-fĭl'ĭk) adj.

    So yes, an adult attracted to a teenager who would still be going through puberty meets the definition of a pedophile. Stop being stupid please.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:53 No.6937893
    >>6937833
    >Just drop the stupid hypotheticals though.

    When you're using legal definitions to defend your case, you really can't be ignoring hypotheticals.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:54 No.6937894
    Rape and order SVU is the best.

    Who doesn't love watching unbelievable rape stories?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:54 No.6937906
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    This NCIS, and SVU are the most consistently good.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:55 No.6937914
    all cop shows are overrated and need to die
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:56 No.6937929
    >>6937886
    Pedophile has a precise technical definition, and "childhood" is a social construct founded on the diminished capacities of prepubescence (which adolescents do not share).
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:57 No.6937933
    >>6937828
    >>As defined by who? The government?

    Should they be able to vote, smoke, drink, or join the military? If no, why then should sex be okay? They're not adults.

    >>Brain development =/= puberty.

    If they haven't completed puberty, they're still a child.

    >>Pedophiles are people sexually oriented towards _prepubescent_ children.

    See:
    >>6937886
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)18:59 No.6937962
    >>6937893
    The question is whether or not having sex with a child is wrong in general, not in some idiotically specific hypothetical situation you will then try to retroactively apply to all other cases.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:00 No.6937971
    >>6937929
    >>Pedophile has a precise technical definition,

    Which I already posted, and you had no reply to. GG.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:04 No.6938018
    > Should they be able to vote, smoke, drink, or join the military?

    Yes, IMO, but the last three are hardly comparable to sex. Smoking, drinking, and killing people are inherently harmful. Sex is healthy and can easily be safe.

    > If they haven't completed puberty, they're still a child.

    1. Puberty has no scientifically defined end.
    2. You haven't explained how such an end marks one's ability to consent.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:05 No.6938030
    >>6937971
    Check the DSM or ICD, idiot, not a layman's dictionary.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:06 No.6938047
    >>6937886
    That means the age of consent should be around 25.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:07 No.6938058
    Criminal Minds is god tier, gubler is the cherry on the cake of fuckwin that it is.
    NCIS is a close runner up, slightly more "light entertainment" but varied enough to be fresh even with some of the cringeworthy dialogue they force in usually with McGee/Abby, plus Cote gives me massive erections.
    Honourable mentions to RAPEVU for rape with extra rape and CSI Miami simply for hilariously bad.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:10 No.6938102
    >>6938018

    >>Puberty has no scientifically defined end.

    0/10, you're not even trying anymore.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/Child_development_stages.svg
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:11 No.6938118
    >Cop Shows - The Best & The Worst
    >turns into pedophile discussion
    You stay classy, /tv/.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:12 No.6938124
    >>6938102
    There's nothing scientific about that chart.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:13 No.6938138
    >>6938018
    How is killing someone else harmful to you?

    Psychologists have stated repeatedly that sex as a child has devastating effects on their self-worth, self-esteem, and personality, and creates a vicious cycle of abuse.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:14 No.6938149
    >>6938124
    There's nothing scientific about your post.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:15 No.6938159
    >>6938124
    You know, you gave up a long time ago. Just keep spinning your wheels, and spitting in the face of facts.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:18 No.6938196
    >>6938058
    Holy fuck. My own clone. I agree with everything in this post.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:20 No.6938213
    >>6938138
    > How is killing someone else harmful to you?

    Empathy.

    > Psychologists have stated repeatedly that sex as a child has devastating effects on their self-worth, self-esteem, and personality, and creates a vicious cycle of abuse.

    Consensual sex during adolescence is generally a positive experience, and the scientific literature reflects this. For example, http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a904613806~db=all and everything on www.violence.de.

    >>6938159
    No facts have been presented. What marks the end of puberty and how is this relevant to consent? (Go ahead, evade the question again.)
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:21 No.6938233
    Best: The Wire
    Worst: that one with the blind cop, can't remember its name.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:23 No.6938249
    >>6938233

    Blind Justice?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:31 No.6938363
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    >>6938213
    YOUR SILENCE IS MY VICTORY
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:33 No.6938382
    >>6938213
    Those links were useless. Second wouldn't load, first stated in it's own text that the study was based on a very small sampling, and as such proved nothing.

    Additionally, it doesn't evaluate the psychological effects on them, all it does is ask people who had sexual experiences young whether or not they found said experience to be positive, and finds that those who state they do find them to be positive are more likely to be accepting of various sexual activities, and are prone to erotophilia.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:34 No.6938408
    >>6938213
    Additionally, I posted a chart which scientifically marks when puberty begins and ends, you had no fucking reply to this. I posted the DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS OF THE WORDS, you had no fucking reply to them.

    So far you've presented nothing in the way of an argument. And to begin with, the very moment you tried to refute THE FUCKING DICTIONARY you demonstrated that you're a fucking idiot who hasn't a clue what you're talking about.

    Just shut the fuck up, you idiotic pedophile.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:36 No.6938429
    >>6938249
    Yes.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:37 No.6938440
    >>6938408
    >implying the DICTIONARY isn't only for spellings
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:38 No.6938456
    >>6938382
    > proved nothing.

    The social sciences cannot "prove" anything. There is only evidence, and you've given none to support your position (probably because none exists).

    > it doesn't evaluate the psychological effects on them

    The purpose of the study was to evaluate the effects of early sexual experiences on adult sexual health. Learn to read.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:38 No.6938465
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157

    Life On Mars = only good cop show ever
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >>6936157
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:40 No.6938490
    >>6938440
    The purpose of a dictionary is to provide a word's meaning.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:41 No.6938516
    >>6938408
    > I posted a chart which scientifically marks when puberty begins and ends

    I don't think you know what "science" is. Oh, and I like how you avoided my *direct* question yet again: "What marks the end of puberty and how is this relevant to consent?"

    > I posted the DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS OF THE WORDS, you had no fucking reply to them.

    "Check the DSM or ICD, idiot, not a layman's dictionary."
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:42 No.6938543
    >>6937906
    this

    SVU is starting to get a little stale though.
    Might be time to wrap it up
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:43 No.6938549
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    You know this to be true
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:43 No.6938556
    The people who like SVU are the same people who enjoyed Avatar.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:44 No.6938572
    >>6938456
    >>The social sciences cannot "prove" anything. There is only evidence, and you've given none to support your position (probably because none exists).

    I gave you a chart which factually documents when puberty begins and ends. You thus far have said nothing to refute it, but instead have dismissed it because you have no response to it.

    >>The purpose of the study was to evaluate the effects of early sexual experiences on adult sexual health. Learn to read.

    And instead it basically stated those who found their experiences positive were prone to becoming sex addicts, and that the entire study was useless because of the tiny group used for it.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:45 No.6938595
    >>6938556 The people who don't like SVU are the same people who enjoyed raping young children.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:47 No.6938636
    >I gave you a chart which factually documents when puberty begins and ends.

    I could draw up a chart which documents how many potatoes it takes to wash your car. It doesn't mean it's factual. That chart had no sources, nothing to back it up, it was essentially just a drawing.

    I'm not the guy you're arguing with btw, just pointing it out.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:47 No.6938641
    >>6938572
    > I gave you a chart which factually documents when puberty begins and ends.

    You posted a picture from Wikipedia that's based on colloquial definitions, not science. Oh, and I like how you avoided my *direct* question yet again: "What marks the end of puberty and how is this relevant to consent?"

    > were prone to becoming sex addicts

    Enjoying sex does not make one a "sex addict". I bet you vote Republican, huh?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:48 No.6938647
    >>6938556
    I like SVU but I didn't like Avatar.

    What now, motherfucker?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)19:54 No.6938760
    >>6938516
    >>Oh, and I like how you avoided my *direct* question yet again: "What marks the end of puberty and how is this relevant to consent?"

    There is so much fail in your posts it's hard to focus on just one thing. The end of puberty is marked by the fact that the person's body is no longer growing. Rarely does a girl grow beyond 17, or a boy beyond 18.

    Puberty effects one's hormones. A teenager is far more susceptible to coercion and peer pressure than an adult.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:04 No.6938906
    >>6938641

    Let's go from the top, and I want you to address every fucking line of this post.

    >>Individuals' self-evaluations of their childhood and adolescent sexual experiences as positive, mixed, or negative, and the relationship of these evaluations to adult sexual attitudes and adjustment were examined.

    Does NOT evaluate whether or not having sex at a young age is positive, instead evaluates what the correlating attitude of those who *describe their experiences as positive* are. Do you get the difference you god damned fucking idiot? They asked them "Did you find the experience positive?" It's only talking about those who said yes.

    It then describes that group thus:

    >>Results supported the hypotheses that positively evaluated early sexual experiences would be associated with greater erotophilia, more acceptance of various sexual behaviors for self and others

    In other words, if they had sex at a young age, and describe the experience as positive, they are less likely to feel guilt about sex, and more likely to be okay with pornography, prostitution, S&M, rape, group sex, etc etc.

    Furthermore, the entire study is worthless, because by their own words:

    >>Limitations of the study include potential biases of retrospective reports and relatively small sample sizes for some comparisons.

    In short, it's fucking useless, and doesn't even speak to your idiotic point to begin with, you god damned idiot.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:10 No.6938997
    >my face when they conversation has gotten way too abtract way to quickly
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:22 No.6939142
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    >>6938760
    Your silence, is my victory.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:26 No.6939193
    >>6939142
    You're beyond help.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:39 No.6939391
    >>6939193
    Thanks for admitting defeat.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:41 No.6939417
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    >>6939391
    I admit that I'm unable to penetrate your thick skull. You're completely immune to logic. Congratulations.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:43 No.6939438
    >>6939417
    You haven't replied to the last two posts, at all. At this point, you're ignoring that everything you've said has been explicitly refuted, and just resorting to personal attacks. You've lost, completely and utterly.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:49 No.6939535
    Kids are too dumb to understand what is at stake in sex and sexual relationships.
    Adults shouldn't be allowed to have sexual activities with kids.
    End of fucking story
    stop being a retarded deviant and grow the fuck up
    Learn to like REAL WOMEN , you ill monkey.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:50 No.6939541
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    >>6939438
    Those "last two posts" are indisputable proof that you can't read.

    > more likely to be okay with [...] rape

    I mean, seriously. Dignifying this shit with a response would just feel silly.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:53 No.6939588
    Whole thread with no mention of NYPD Blue ? Am dissapoint .. also that goth chick from ncis makes me moist.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:54 No.6939603
    >>6939541
    You're just an socially inadapted who prey on the weak to satisfy his lust.
    Do not try to justify that shit with science or studies etc, they are none heading your direction, you're just a poor sad loser with a severe psy problem.
    Probably have been raped or melested by your dad or abused by your mom or humiliated by teenage girls.
    People like you should be chemically castrated, no question, no debate.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)20:59 No.6939651
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    >>6939535
    > Kids are too dumb

    For what it's worth, various studies have found that IQ scores peak during adolescence (as cited in http://drrobertepstein.com/pdf/Epstein-THE_MYTH_OF_THE_TEEN_BRAIN-Scientific_American_Mind-4-07.pdf)
    .

    > what is at stake in sex and sexual relationships

    What *is* at stake?

    >>6939603
    > Do not try to justify that shit with science or studies etc, they are none heading your direction

    You've posted no studies to support your position. I have.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)21:03 No.6939695
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    > Perhaps most intriguing are the age-related trajectories for raw score performance. For most tasks, proficiency improved dramatically between 6 and 10 years of age, leveling off during early adolescence (approximately 10 to 12 years of age), suggesting that for many neurocognitive tasks, children approach adult levels of performance at that age. For a few measures, scores increased linearly throughout the age range. These were tasks that assessed basic information processing, such as Coding, Digit Span, and Spatial Span. Still others were associated with a non-linear component during adolescence. Some showed a flattening of the curve followed by another period of acceleration, suggesting another spurt in mid-adolescence. Verbal learning actually reversed direction with performance declining in later adolescence.

    dx.doi.org/10.1017/S1355617707070841
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)21:04 No.6939710
    >>6939651
    IQ is irrelevant
    IQ only shows the logical plasticity of the brain.
    In order to "not being dumb" you have to have knowledge, and knowledge is something you learn.
    Learning life is called experience, and you don't have experience when you're a kid.
    No experience = dumb as fuck.
    Of course mixing IQ with being intelligent/knowledgeable was very clever of you..or was it? Using logical fallacy, tsssk tsssk, baaaaad strategy with me.
    .
    >What *is* at stake?
    Dominant to dominated relationship, emotional growth, freedom of choice when it comes to sexual practices.

    Say what you want, kids aren't standing in an equal ground with adults, if you're too fucked up to understand that then you should consider to see a specialist.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)21:06 No.6939730
    Hill Street Blues did it the best.

    Dragnet was also good in its time.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)21:08 No.6939759
    >>6939695
    Retard.
    IQ has nothing to do with that shit.
    Also, on another note, it really shows how inane IQ tests are, confusing reactivity, speed of accessing ressources, with intelligence... god that hurts.
    I bet Einstein was smarter when he was 10 huh? That's why he found that famous theory at 11.. huh wait..no lol.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)21:09 No.6939786
    >>6939651
    Guess you never met a girl with abuse issues ...
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)21:13 No.6939836
    >>6939710
    IQ is a measure of intelligence. If someone is intelligent, they can easily shed their ignorance, especially of something as simple as sex.

    > Dominant to dominated relationship

    In the real world, a teenager who has sex with an adult can utterly ruin his life just by telling others what happened. Dominant adult to dominated adult indeed.

    > emotional growth

    Why would sex stunt emotional growth? Is this just sex with adults, or sex in general? Why?

    > freedom of choice when it comes to sexual practices

    ...would increase?
    >> Anonymous 01/29/10(Fri)21:14 No.6939841
    >>6939695
    pathetic creatures talking about ease of learning for virgin and not yet fully shaped brains only to justify sticking is cock in a little girl's mouth ....

    You really are a breathing piece of shit.



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