you mean the patriot?

>>4757053
Naturally. He'll be on Fox tomorrow.

Nice to know we can put the final nail in the coffin of civil discourse in this country when elected representatives are acting like rednecks at town meetings.

YOU LIE!!

When did this happen? fuck bullshit

>>4757045
Really? What a faggot. Seriously, if you disagree say so like a civil listener. Little high school niggers yell out stuff during speeches, not fucking people in such power positions. At least the rest of the republifags just sat on their thumbs quietly.

a true bro

Talk about unprofessional. Pelosi gave him the fucking evil eye. You won't see that clip on any conservative news show, even the republicans around him were embarrassed.

>>4757079
>even the republicans around him were embarrassed.

I'm sure Cheney was clapping and eye popped.

>>4757053
Nope, the faggot.

Was he booed or did the Republicans decided to boo Obama after all hell broke loose?

You stay classy, Republican party.

>>4757128
>Obama: No medical coverage for illegals
>Wilson: YOU LIE
>Everybody in the room: (literally) O SHI-

>>4757061

lol

That son of a bitch!

I have no problem with someone disagreeing with Obama. I don't expect everyone to be a fan of the President or his idea. I do however, expect that they, politically elected leaders, show respect, not only to the man, but to the office.

Is dis some House of Commons?

>>4757211
When Obama shows some respect for the american people, we'll show respect for the office.

He did know this wasn't a townhall meeting right?

>>4757211
>but we're the victim this time and, like, even though democRATS never yelled out YOU LIE to bush during a presidential address... they were thinking it, yah-huh-huh.

Audience Yells "Liar" At Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PqBiNUyqU

>>4757211
>show respect

Did you miss the last presidency? The one before that? And before that? And the one before that too?

There has been no respect rendered to the office since the days of fucking Carter.

>>4757313
>Audience

... 1 person does.

>>4757278
HAHAHAHa oh wow, you must be some sort of retard irl.

>>4757278
Do'hohoh

Clever wordplay, brah.

>>4757313
>watch my youtube video i just put up... gimmie views and responses, herp derp.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0909/A_voice_from_the_floor_on_illegal_immigrants_Lie.html

>>4757324
I just googled it, I didn't write it...

>>4757321
Well, the fuckers haven't deserved any respect since way before that

I love how there's controversy about some guy shouting "You lie" and a bunch of congressmen going "ooooooooohhhh", but I've seen British Parliament on CSPAN, and they're a lot worse. They're like a bunch of fucking kids shouting at each other. We have it good here, I don't see why people are upset about one guy shouting something, when congresspeople are fucking beaten up in Singapore.

Of course he'd say 'you lie' to the thing that is not actually a lie...

>>4757045
We're just showing you liberals the same respect you showed President Bush.

>>4758110
cite one similar example

>>4758110
does this mean I get to call you an unamerican terrorist commie for not agreeing with the president too??? because that was 8 years for me, plus an extra 4 for having W as my governor

Go South Carolina, way to prove how hickish you are

>>4758110
>We're just showing you liberals the same respect you showed President Bush.

Really? Can you point out an instance where a fucking Congressman shouted at President Bush during an address to Congress?

No?

Where did Wilson think he was, the UK Parliament?

>>4758121
> asking for facts from a reactionary idiot.

>>4757926
Yes but the reaction is fair precisely because that is just not done in US politics. I wonder what exactly is SO different and high-stakes about this situation to prompt an actual verbal outburst like that.

("HE'S BL_CK", wanna buy a vowel, etc)

>>4758154
I recall Cheney telling someone to fuck themselves, though.

Stay classy, Repubs.

Dude isn't going to have a lot of friends in the House now.

>>4758161
BUT IS NOT OASIS THE GREATEST BRITISH BAND SINCE THE BEATLES???

>>4758176
>I wonder what exactly is SO different and high-stakes about this situation to prompt an actual verbal outburst like that.

Since the president became sufficiently Otherish so that deep-seated fears and prejudices and all that slop roared to the surface with overwhelming force, drowning out any sense of propriety.

the only reason why people hate obama is because he's black

someone said this in my education class today.

I raged.

>>4758176
this is more appropriate

It would have been better if he said, NO U in congress cause then we'd know he is trollan.

>>4758231
That's not the ONLY reason. But let's face it, it's big part of it for a large chunk of people.

After all, Obama is C-C-C-Combo breaker in the line of Presidents.

>>4758231
I think it's a significant underlying trait that many people who actually *hate* him share. Note that most people don't hate him, they just disagree strongly with his stand on the issues.

One of the few cases where a simple "no u" would have sufficed.

That fucking moron, if he said Obama's lying, he could at least point out specifically what he was actually lying about in his statement.

>>4758253
Are you implying his policies are not polarizing enough to warrant a large disdain?

I can't wait till they regard his failure as a president because he was black and not because a significant portion of the nation said, "NO U" to some policies.

>>4758272
yes, this

i think it is a huge contributing factor to how easily people mistrust the guy. if joe biden were president nobody would be asking for his birth certificate

>>4758279
yes, because he has the opportunity to do that during a speech on national television.

Yelling "You lie!" was kind of a douchy thing to do. But then half of Obama's speech was calling the Republicans liars. It was totally worth it just to see Polosi's reaction. I thought she was gonna jump outta her seat and the crap out of somebody.

Explain why you know for a fact Obama is telling the truth. What makes this man an idiot?

>>4758307

Well in that case he should have kept his fucking mouth shut instead of blurting out something he would have to substantiate.

>>4758302
There are plenty of reasons to be questioning his birth status because the original has not been shown. Hell people questioned McCain's birth status.

"You lie!" is secret Republican code for "Nigger!"

>>4758327
>Yelling "You lie!" was kind of a douchy thing to do. But

No. No "but" at the end of that.

>>4758330
you trollin, seriously

>>4758330

It was completely uncouth for him to have disrespected the President like that.

>>4758330
Oh hey Glenn Beck!

Did you know you murdered and raped a girl in 1990 because she wouldn't have an abortion.

>>4758337
OH JESUS

EXCUSE YOURSELF FROM THIS DISCUSSION

>>4757313
Obama just made the scariest face I've ever seen.

>>4758327
He's trying to defend his position. It's the point of the congressional address. He's trying to show that claims about death panels are bullshit, which they are. You don't have to agree with his policy ideas, but the least one can do is respect his position.

>>4758349
Just like, "Socialist" is a code word for "nigger". In fact any words against the president are code word for "nigger" because everyone who dislikes the president is a dirty old racist and a republican

i like how racist parents are cool with mike vick speaking to there kids, but a black man telling them if they work hard, they can achieve anything, just like he did in being the first black president, that shits crossing the line.

>>4758330

Madam Speaker commands you to leave the floor.

Disliking whoever is president is the American way, but that guy still acted like a douchebag.

>>4758356
If someone had shouted something at Bush, this wouldn't have been a big deal. This thread wouldn't have been made and no one would've been offended

>>4758377
They weren't bullshit. They were far from death panels but they were still there and people who defend the bill originally said they weren't and lied about it. WHY?

Again it was FAR FAR FAR from a DEATH PANEL but END OF LIFE CONSOLING was there.

>>4758147
Go for it. The difference is, you'd be lying.

>>4758154
Awww. Iz your widdle feewings hurt?
I love how you liberal bitches only whine about decorum and respect when its your bitches getting owned.
You all know damn well if a liberal activist threw a pie (or a shoe) at bush you'd cheer them on. But if someone tried the same with obama you'd want a hate crime pressed against the person and the death penalty involved.

>>4758327

>derp I believe birthers and death panel idiots.

>>4758330
The actual bill has a provision that says no federal money will pay for illegal aliens

>>4758330
The actual bill has a provision that says no federal money will pay for illegal aliens

>>4758354
>>4758356
>>4758358
>>4758393
Now that you've gotten your jokes out. Answer the question.

>>This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the Presidents remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the Presidents statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.
-- Joe Wilson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=019ILm9873o

Heres a video. Obama gave him the "is da commander and cheif gonna have to choke a bitch?" look

>>4758383
>implying the party not in power didn't throw shitsfits when a president gave a school speech

Let's see, Daddy Bush, Clinton and Reagan are all presidents I can recall that had a shitstorm follow or lead up to their school address. It's nothing new.

>>4758412

But that never happened, so who are you to say it wouldn't have? I'm pretty sure the media would've picked it up and ran with it.

Sure maybe there wouldn't be a thread on 4chan, who's visitors are overwhelmingly liberal, but what about conservative forums?

>>4758437

Whatever, like the fucker would ever apologize.

>>4758437

So he's admitting to having the emotional self-control of an 8-year-old?

DO I?

>>4758426
If that is the case than what Wilson said was an uncalled for outburst.

>>4758383
I guess the consolation you can take from this is that no way in shit did that speech get protested and pulled in shitty inner-city school districts, who are exactly the kids that might actually get inspired by an Obama speech. Elementary schoolers in gated communities in suburban Houston are gonna get to college no matter what

The "You lie!" guy is a secret Democrat agent. All his yelling does is make the Republicans look bad. He was brainwashed by Obama's minions and forced to yell as a means of thwarting the Republicans.

It pisses me off that people thought Obama was going to come in and have the entire U.S. fixed in days. Now the fucking hicks are getting mad that their country is still in shit. The man is pretty well dealing with an eight year hangover.

>>4758440

Who the fuck cams a television set?

OMG OUR GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO PASS A PLAN THAT KILLS OLD PEOPLE AND GIVES HEALTH INSURANCE TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS !

>>4758415
Death panels are a gross exaggeration. End of life consoling is completely different. He's justified in saying that people who spread the claim that the new bill will call for death panels are liars. I personally am against health care reform, but if we can't differentiate between fact and myth, then what's the point of even having civil discourse on matters like this.

>>4758383
Here's one for you. Arlington TX - the school district wouldn't show Obama's speech to the kids. But today, they say they are letting all the 5th graders in the district go to the new Cowboys stadium for some Super Bowl event to hear GWBush speak.

Obama for 10 minutes in the classroom = not ok.

Putting all the 5th graders on busses for half a day or more to a taxpayer paid monstrosity for a sports event that will also cost a pretty penny to hear some people speak about things you'll never see anywhere but tv...= a-ok!

>>4758472
I agree with this. Not saying he's done an AMAZING job or anything but there's a lot of really unreasonable butthurtedness going on on the left as well

i liked biden's reaction the best. he's all "son, i am disappoint"

>>4758453
>But that never happened, so who are you to say it wouldn't have? I'm pretty sure the media would've picked it up and ran with it.

You're right.

There would have been a liberal circle jerk for the representative that had the audacity to speak out against the evil monster that is GW BUSH.

Just like there is going to be a conservafagcircle jerk over this dude.

>>4758453
The point is, despite Obama's failing policies and shady underhanded maneuvers, he maintains a romanticized hero of America, who has of yet, done nothing to help our country.

>>4758491
biden is such a fucking hilarious creature. best national drunk uncle ever

>>4758472
>implying a shitty rushed health care bill that will cost more will fix the country

Stop listening to Obama's economic advisers. It's like listening to Reagan's.

Why is no one talking about VAN JONES?

A fucking thug who is the loser friend in your click that only does the "cool" thing at the moment. He has zero creditability and he could have picked someone WAY more qualified BUT he didn't.

>>4758541
>thug

>>4758491
Exactly! I lol'd.

i always assumed most people are neither democrat or republican, but somewhere in the middle. i never got people who treat politics like its a sporting event, and you blindly follow and route for your team, and route against the other like they are the enemy. why would people actively want the president to fail, that seems unamerican. why cut off your nose to spite your face?

It's funny because no one will remember Obama's boring, copypasta speech, only Joe Wilson's outburst.

I laugh a little inside whenever Republifags give the ITS LIKE YOU DID WITH BUSH argument.

True, Bush was hated on alot, he was the butt of a lot of jokes. But at most he was a minor nuisance. He was just kinda there, after a while you stopped caring.

But seriously, have you seen this shit? Go on to any Youtube video about Obama, any political website, even on here, and just read the incredibly hateful comments.

It's insanely hilarious how butthurt you guys are, even more hilarious when the accusations of MARXISM/COMMUNISM/SOCIALISM go flying.

Thank you for this entertainment my friends.

>>4758561
Because politics is a sport. What the fuck is wrong with you?

After the speech, South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson issued a statement apologizing for his outburst.

"This evening, I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the president's remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill," the statement said. "While I disagree with the president's statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the president for this lack of civility."

is it true that Obama uses his Czars to bypass congress?

>>4758568
So you've never heard any of those "hateful" comments during the Bush era? Really?

Just look towards Hollywood, the Huffington Post MSNBC talking heads. Plenty of hateful comments.

>>4758568
Obama once had tea with Lenin and Stalin. True story.

If someone said anything close to that during a Bush speech to a joint session, Cheney would have told him to fuck off and the Republican party would have personally saw to lynching him in the foyer.

This bullshit about LOOK HOW U TREATED DUBYA JUST DESSERTS U COMMIE TRAITORS is getting ridiculous. George Bush is certainly in the top 5 worst presidents in US history and deserved everything he got. Most of the Republican party can't stand to be in the minority and are spewing bile at these tea parties. Spewing bile at a man that isn't even in to his second year in office.

Oh, and this is a television and film board.

>>4758591
If by bypass congress you mean avoid hearings for his policy helpers that aren't full time staff, yes.

I disagree with Obama's health care policies, but that was in bad taste.

I thought it was in bad taste too when Bush Jr. was booed at Obama's inauguration, and I thought Bush was a terrible president.

>>4758611
Come again?

I thought the left never said any hateful comments towards Bush.

>>4758597
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
KEITH WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING

>>4758597
Except no one ever said Bush was a socialist terrorist muslim because he was half black with a funny name.

>>4758611
Hello. I'm Warren G. Harding (1921-1923), 29th President of these United States, and historically regarded as perhaps the worst President of the United States.

Dude. I was only President for 2 years. Your guy was president for eight and BROKE the WORLD. He IS the worst. Hands down. Even myself and William Henry Harrison are like, "Wow, dude, that guy was a fucking tard."

THE DAILY SHOW SAID BUSH WAS DUMB
I LOVE THE COLBERT REPORT

>>4758616
I was really torn watching people sing "na na hey hey goodbye" at Bush's helicopter. I know in my heart that it was classless but I understood it as a catharsis after eight fucked up years.

>>4758640

Let me see...

Liberal Media - NBC, CNN, Jew-Hollywood, Los Angeles, New York, ALL THE FUCKING BLOGS and YOUTUBE.

Conservative Media - Fox News which you consider biased.

And you guys wonder why we have to yell to get attention.

>>4758630
>being mad at a man after eight years of breaking the country and its image for probably a generation
vs
>being mad (calling for his assassination/racism/etc) at a man after eight months of trying to do positive in the face of enormous opposition

yeah, that's totally the same thing
ps stop bumping this thread

>>4758689
i stopped reading at jew hollywood

>>4758689
yes youre a troll but...

the actual arguments over conservative principles and socail democracy are contained within what you label liberal media

Fox is Rupert Murdoch's attempt at a corporate takeover of the world.

>>4758689
BUT WHERE IS THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE

.

Ask for Censure. Write the Speaker of the House.

Speaker of the House: http://www.speaker.gov/contact

Ask that he apologize and resign. Let him know how you feel.

Wilson: http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm

>>4758707

>implying that Obama never admitted HIMSELF that he put the country 1 Trillion into debt.

Alot of damange can be done in 8 months.

>>4758689
Not really. Most media is centrist-conservative and all media is really dumbed down.

Why stop bumping. this was on Tv. Lets discuss

Ok liberal guys. explain flag@whitehouse.gov

>>4758744
obama's inspiring speech to the schoolchildren came too late for this anon~

>>4758738
U mad?

>>4757069
if he didn't say it then, nobody would have listened, nobody ever listens

also, Television and Film

>>4758764
oh no an email! how orwellian

>>4758738

lol, sorry I don't give a fuck enough to do that...

I personally don't think there would be any problem pointing out a blatant lie when a person as important as the President is telling them in order to win a case for whatever policy he's trying to pass.

However, if this is not a lie then it was totally inappropriate.

This is a matter of law. That should make it urgent enough. When people with as much power as Obama start telling lies then I have no problem with someone who has the balls to call him out on it even during a speech on national TV.

>>4758330

Because the healthcare proposal has a bit which says something exactally like "No health care for illegal immigrants." It's in there, in no nonsense wording.

>>4758779

Wait now just a dog gone minute, just what the fuck do you mean by that?

The exact same thing would happen if you reverse the parties.

Anyone getting offended is a hypocrite.

>>4759007
>The exact same thing would happen if you reverse the parties.

So, under Bush? When did a democratic senator yell out "YOU LIE!" during a presidential address?

>>4758849
With no realistic method of enforcement included, and every realistic method of enforcement proposed shouted down by dumbocraps.

>>4759028

I am talking about the aftermath of an event like this. And people did call Bush a liar 24/7 during the last 5 1/2 years.

>>4759007
this kind of, the same thing would happen with the parties reversed, politicians now more then ever seems to be a haven for people that can't find a real job, and are just personable enough to get people to vote for them. i still think people should respect the office, not necessarily the president, it was the wrong forum. and ive only ever voted republican.

>>4759066
>And people did call Bush a liar 24/7 during the last 5 1/2 years.

I'm talking about a presidential address. people have called every president in history a liar. that's all subjective. this was a representative during a presidential speech to congress... not a town hall meeting.

>>4759138

Anyone that calls out Bush will get shot by Cheney. Anyone that calls out Obama will drink goblets of butthurt tears.

Of course the bazillion illegal Mexicans in the U.S. won't
be getting tax payer funded health care!

The crooked politicians (from both sides) will just grant
them all amnesty and lo and behold, they're suddenly
Americans and _now_ they can get tax payer funded
health care....

Of course they'll still be ass-backward, dirt-poor, gang
banging, non-English speaking, fucking beaners but at
least nobody can say the U.S. gives free health care to
illegals!

>>4759138
no one had the balls to call out bush in session

and no one has the balls now, or else this stupid legislation would have been passed already. THEY HAVE THE VOTES

If "illegal immigrants" were granted citizenship:
They wouldn't be paid poverty wages any longer
They would pay income tax

taxbase increases, corporations have to become responsible

I wonder how many more immigrants/minorities the republican party is going to ward off.

>>4759306
I don't put it past the Democratic party that wants the auto-votes from the worthless poor fags and I DON'T PUT IT PAST THE Republican Party that wants their butt buddies to have a cheap sorce of labor.

Yes, people have called presidents a liar before.

No, people have not stood up and yelled it in blunt language while he was addressing congress.


Think about it, if someone had done this to Bush the Republicans would be out for blood trying to expel him or censure him or something. This guy will be a hero to the Right tomorrow.

Jesus,

what the fuck kind of crazy people are in this thread?
enjoy your crazy paranoia

>>4759447
>This guy will be a hero to the Right tomorrow.

No doubt. He probably took one for the team.

>>4759447
>implying the talking heads of ABC, MSNBC and CNN wouldn't be parading around the "brave" congressman who stood up to the president and his thugs

If you don't believe that would happen then you really don't undestand american politics and the media.

>>4759496
>If you don't believe that would happen then you really don't undestand american politics and the media.
Why does he deserve a pat on the back? For being a political hack during a presidential address? This isn't an some "everyday event" for a representative to yell out at a president during a presidential speech to congress.

>>4759564
You misread the comment. I meant if someone did that to Bush.

He would get a pat on the back from the talking heads on the station.

Just like Joe Wilson will get a pat on the back from FOX.

>>4759620
That's total bullshit and you know it. If a congressmen/lady yelled out to a president during a presidential address... to congress... they would be asked to resign by the republican party and they would shit their pants trying to convince everyone that they're sorry. No one looks at that shit nicely. Notice how even Fox news tried to sway some of the heat?

God, QQ more. Y'all should check out parliament in Ausfailia or UK. Not 10 seconds pass without one minister calling another one a wanker, and not 30 minutes before a full blown punch up.

>if you speak out against a liberal, we'll smear you out of existence

>>4759659
Are you an idiot?

Do you think the Democratic Party won't do the same? Wait till tomorrow when you heard every faggot say he should resign and all the talking heads on ABC, CNN and MSNBC say he is an awful person and should resign.

You're a fucking loon if you disagree.

>>4759764
>if you speak out against a liberal, we'll smear you out of existence
>Do you think the Democratic Party won't do the same?

I..uh...
not sure if troll

>>4759775
Not sure if troll?

You sir are the troll.

>>4759496
>>4759764

The Democrats won't do the same, they're pussies. He'll get a little flak for it from the media and then everyone will forget about it.
The Republicans are ruthless cutthroats, if this guy had yelled out at Bush he'd be out on his ass.

>>4759746
Australians and Brits are fucking barbarians though

>>4759764
>he should resign and all the talking heads

You realize you're a talking head, right? You speak for those "special people" that somehow "understand" the media spins shit... like it's some big fucking mystery.

The same would happen to a Democrat. I'm not disagreeing what's going to happen to this Republican. He'll make his little sappy, "I'm sorry... I spoke out of line and I apologize" bullshit and everyone will be on their merry way.

This guy will walk clean because there are bigger fish to fry.

>>4759780
Just food for though, if I say Republicans will be smeared for anything relating to insulting Obama and you ask if I think Democrats won't do the same, I have to wonder if you're a troll because you're essentially saying what I'm saying, then insulting me for saying it.

>>4759620
No they wouldn't. Remember when that comedian Wonda at that dinner hall meeting made her jokes about Bush? Hell, Keith Oberman said he was in no way affiliated with her comments.

>>4757211
That's way too many commas my friend.

Where Obama gets off lecturing Americans on civility after his cretinous cronies spent a month demagoging the hell out of every protester in sight is beyond me.

>>4759764

He already apologized. If he were a real man he would have stuck to his guns, although it doesn't make what he said any less true.

>>4761031

but it's ok though since he's black, remember? that's why he was elected in the first place. not because of his lack of experience, his lack of credentials, and because of his lack of any documentation whatsoever.

>>4761097
>and because of his lack of any documentation whatsoever.

*cough* Birther! *cough*

>*cough* Scar's a faggot *cough*

no one has the right to yell out in a joint speech. Unless he lives in the world of Idiocracy.

>>4761107
> no one has the right to yell out in a joint speech. Unless he lives in the world of Democracy

fix'd

>>4761105

pretty sure i mentioned nothing about birth certificates in my post, he hasn't shown anything from his time in school whatsoever. he refuses to answer questions about his background, nor does he deny anything said about his past.

>>4758461
lmao

>>4761117

classy piece of shit, aren't you?

>>4761138
What am I suppose to take from:
>and because of his lack of any documentation whatsoever.

You've already spoken of "experience" and "credentials".... and then this... what is it?

>>4761165
i calls 'em as i sees 'em

>>4758440
>> "is da commander and cheif gonna have to choke >>a bitch?" look

>>4757057
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>>4757057

Even McCain has not wasted time in telling this guy he needs to apologize.

lol if you disagree with Obama it looks like 4chan (obama's persona army) will be on your ass