Isn't that the whole point of not being controlled?

industrious little ant people

From what you've quoted it's easy to see he's speaking from experience. Afterall, he's a notorious drinker, no?

he's completely right

Jet Li is worse.

He is Jackie fucking Chan.

That is all you need to know.

Americans think they're free.
Chinese know they aren't.

Which is worse?

>>3362213
Haha, really? Have anything particularly incriminating from him?

Its working out pretty well in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

He's right to an extent. The 'every man for himself' mentality that is currently so rampant in the west is not particularly a good thing.

>>3362221

a paradox...

>>3362221
who cares as long as those chinks keep making my electronics and cheap furniture it's all good.

Can you imagine a billion people all doing whatever they want? They would invade and destroy the rest of the world.

>>3362221
And Eurofags are more free? Pftt

>>3362181
MARK!?!?!

>>3362337

Who said anything about Europe? Strawman much?

>>3362328
OH SNAP

>>3362337
Most of Europe makes China look like a Democracy.

>>3362370
Funny thing is, Genghis Khan DID invade most of the world but he did it by controlling the people and bringing order.

I agree with Jackie Chan mainly because I trust in his judgement (if he did indeed say these things). He's always been level headed, and he's certainly lived longer than I have. I don't think it was 'freedom from China' that led to Hong Kong's prosperity, but British rule that did so. Slight nuance, but if it was any other country than Britain (during that time period) that ruled over Hong Kong I doubt it would be so successful today. Take modern US as an example, they're really doing a crap job with Iraq.

>>3362370

Not Chinese, but used Chinese people to [try to] accomplish his goals.

>>3362406
>Take modern US as an example, they're really doing a crap job with Iraq.
wat? are you saying that if the british empire had tv's/reporters/geneva convention,... they'd succeed? YEAH... RIIIIIIIIIGHT.

Fuck Hong Kong, Qingdao is where it's at!

>>3362413
The post did not state they had to be Chinese.

>>3362432
I think if the people truly cared about establishing order, no amount of media reporting would hinder it.

isnt hong kong some third world shithole?

The British did a wonderful job in Africa, that's for sure!

>>3362189
best race profile for asians i have ever seen. industrious little ant people.

>>3362462
Nope. There is some disparity between the rich and poor, but it's more developed than most countries.

>>3362406
Oh my fucking god you are a retarded sob. Allow me to point out where you went wrong.

>I agree with Jackie Chan mainly because I trust in his judgement (if he did indeed say these things).
He is an actor. He is a Chinese nationalist whose fortune came primarily from the western world. And yes he said these things.

>He's always been level headed, and he's certainly lived longer than I have.
He only seems level headed to somebody who isn't paying attention. See his other comments in regards to China. He goes CCCP mode. Having lived longer does not mean greater wisdom or understanding, by default or by learned means.

>I don't think it was 'freedom from China' that led to Hong Kong's prosperity, but British rule that did so. Slight nuance, but if it was any other country than Britain (during that time period) that ruled over Hong Kong I doubt it would be so successful today.
You've just been upgraded from retard to misinformed.

>Take modern US as an example, they're really doing a crap job with Iraq.
I could write fiften pages as to why Iraq is a failed occupation. But that is for another thread.

For more information regarding China related news:
http://plus4chan.org/boards/n/

>>3362455

Well there aren't a billion Mongolians now are there? And we're talking about Jackie Chan talking about China.

how many people did the british empire kill? or in direct result of the slaughter? millions? tens of millions?

>>3362469
I've seen his other comments. Why is he wrong, specifically? He wants some reconciliation between Hong Kong and China. China isn't some super villain that the western world always portrays it as. In the end, they're all Chinese people, there's no reason for divide.

For example if California (or any one state) wanted to be it's own country, how would you feel?

And yes, I firmly believe that the British had a huge hand in Hong Kong's prosperity. And no, I'm not a Britfag.

Hong Kong still practices a certain amount of autonomy even now that it's a part of the People's Republic, so it doesn't really matter which European power used to occupy them, as long as they didn't completely run it into the ground.

>>3362516

>For example if California (or any one state) wanted to be it's own country, how would you feel?

I feel like something like this happened in US history some time.

British, German, French, Portuguese, Russian, Japanese! All foreigners leave China or die!

>>3362548
yes canada withdrew from the USA and was no longer the 51st state but we still enjoy free trade and unprotected borders with them

Because Chinese people are fucking stupid.

Just go to ANY Chinatown and see how they act. Fucking lowlife animals.

The Chinese have never had a democratic leader, in their 5000 year history. I can see his point.

>>3362531 so it doesn't really matter which European power used to occupy them

But those are the people that gave them class.

Don't front. Hk people shit on Mainland, just like Taiwan.

>>3362516
It's a lot more complicated than that.

>>3362572
>lowlife animal
No different from how you act online I'll bet. Why can we not have civilized discourse?

If he said anything else he couldn't visit his family without worrying. The whole Chinese values won't work with democracy is the bullshit party line. Hong Kong is democratic, the communist party has little power over them and their internet isn't castrated. Taiwan is a very successful democracy. Japan and South Korea have Confucian/Buddhist values and they are doing great.

>>3362593

Taiwan has been a democracy for 30 years.

>>3362610
fucker have you ever been to China? I have. they live like animals. The filth is amazing. they clean poultry next to refuse, the piss on the street. shit is no joke.

>>3362221
cosign

>>3362617
LOL.
Comparing relatively tiny population countries with a country with 1/6th of the ENTIRE world's population that a little than 50 years ago had people starving to death in the streets and now is an economic/military giant.

>>3362469 Having lived longer does not mean greater wisdom or understanding, by default or by learned means.

20 yr old

>>3362617

I dunno, bro, Confucius was pretty big on authority and the Japanese used to fucking NUTS when it came to the Emperor (some still are and believe he's a direct descendant from the SUN and everything he says is TRUTH AND LAW)

>>3362630
Many parts of China are disgusting I agree, but even within China there are diverse cultural groups and vastly contrasting regions. Just don't lump them all together.

>>3362610
Faggot

>>3362630

And you think they do it for fun? You think poverty has nothing to do with it?

>>3362239
>>3362221
samefag

>>3362630
I went to Hong Kong..........................................
when it was still under British control.

your country "living longer" doesn't give you wisdom. all the wisdom you have isn't guaranteed to pass on to the next generation.

china is already getting fatties at an alarming rate.

plus the women to man ratio.. too many men.

>>3362678
That's because they drown the girls they give birth to.

>>3362678
>your country "living longer" doesn't give you wisdom. all the wisdom you have isn't guaranteed to pass on to the next generation.
>china is already getting fatties at an alarming rate.
This is exactly the thing I think JC is trying to prevent.

The solution is polygamy, except instead of a man with many wifes, the woman will have many husbands.

I live in San Francisco. I see this shit everyday. I will not say "Chinese are dogs," but they have different values. lower than "Western" values.

Case in point: the Chinese restaurant across the street defrost their meat and fish on top of a dumpster and "air cure" their meet on a busy street corner. Pic related.

>>3362731
That's sick.

China is going to rule the world within the next 50 years so you better get used to their style of government while you can.

>>3362739
That is such a petty candidate for lower values.

It's more of a problem of education vs customs than lower values.

>>3362745

Sick or not, at least you're getting laid.

>>3362641

India is almost as big and will be bigger. And their culture is based on a religion with a strict caste system.

>>3362747
China is going to run out of water and resources and become a festering pit of misery and failure. They will rule nothing.

>>3362221
I can stand out on the street corner and say Obama murders Afghan babies for blood money and I won't be arrested by the FBI.

If I said Mao murdered millions of chinese peasants and he was an awful leader Chinese officials would throw my in prison.

Yes America is free faggot.

Anyone seen that video where that redneck couple shoots a deer/moose then proceeds to have sex on top of its corpse? I don't think any ethnic group should be able to look down on another ethnic group in terms of 'moral values'.

>>3362181
I'm pretty sure he's been brainwashed by the Chinese Government.

>>3362781
They'll just call in for the $100 trillion the Americans owe them and take their water and resources.

>>3362782
That's what you think.

>>3362731

lol

Polygamy works because women can take turns and don't need sex at least a few times a week. Monogamous men have enough trouble getting laid without sharing her with other men.

In the words of some Chinese-American historian I can't remember the name of: "China lost the civil war when the Communists won."

>>3362782

>I can stand out on the street corner and say Obama murders Afghan babies for blood money and I won't be arrested by the FBI.

I would LOVE to see you try it and not get arrested, I double dog dare you.

>>3362782

You're allowed to shit on Mao, the guy who came to power after him demaoized the country.

He's right. The Chinese don't think in terms of individuality like the west does. They do what's best for the group rather than just themselves. This fits in line with that sort of thing.

>>3362834

go to Union Square in New York or somewhere similar. Saying something like that would be considered tame.

One time I saw a 911 truth rally and a silent rave going on at the same time, it was pretty funny.

>>3362781
>China is going to run out of water and resources and become a festering pit of misery and failure. They will rule nothing.

Sez a person in the country that is begging China to help it fund its trillion dollar deficits

>>3362812

I'M COMMUNIST
SON OF A BITCH REPUBLICAN
NATIONALISTS IS PIG
DO YOU WANT ARISTOCRACY?
DO YOU WANT CORPORATIONS?
REPUBLICAN IS PIG DISGUSTING
CHIANG KAI-SHEK IS A MURDERER
FUCKING TAIWAN

>>3362860

Stop watching Lou Dobbs. The British and Japanese own more American debt, and shockingly the people who own the most debt are Americans.

>>3362840 They do what's best for the group rather than just themselves.

Vulcans creep me out.

>>3362840
Feudal China disagrees and buries you with a million corpses.

>>3362855

Try it without 'getting the proper permits', which you don't really need anyway, but the police will be more than happy to let you think otherwise.

In fact, take a picture of a government building or two and see where that gets you. Do it, you pussy.

We need to go to war with China, North Korea, and Russia.

>>3362872
I think not. Combined they about equal the amount of debt the U.S. owes China.

China owning about a fucking quarter of our debt is pretty big deal don't you think?

>>3362884

They don't get permits. Leave your basement for once.

The best are the black muslims who hang around Wall st. Their audience is a bunch of white men in suits eating their lunches.

>>3362840

Actually they do. Chinese people are ridiculously egoistic and materialistic. They are not the collectivists Mao envisioned by any stretch of the imagination.

>>3362840
As opposed to what? Soviet Russia? Nazi Germany? WWII Japan? The Muslim Fags?

>>3362903
Foreign debt.

>>3362909

They don't get permits because they don't NEED them, but thanks for not understanding my post.

>>3362903
LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL


you owe to Mexico

>>3362903

Learn to read. That graph only has foreign holders, China doesn't own a quarter of it, Chinese people do. Your grandmother probably bought you a security when you were born.

Considering they have 1/6 of the worlds population which includes poor Africans its not that surprising.

Luxembourg is who you gotta look out for, almost 3%?? they have like 10 people!

UNCOLH! UNCOLH! UNCOLH LET ME UP!

>>3362930

The police usually drive around looking for people shooting up in the park, sometimes they stand on the other side of the street talking about the Yankees.

I'm an Ausfailian who unfortunately works at McDonalds. We hire quite alot of Chinese people. While i find them to be just like us (if not better, they're incredibly polite), you know, interested in the latest fashions and such, it is kind of odd trying to discuss politics with them. Most of them just sort of go silent and listen to you but don't reply, as if i'd broken a great taboo with them.

The few who do reply also swear that as soon as possible they want to get a residency visa to live here and get away from what they politely describe as 'a terrible country'.

>>3362516
>Why is he wrong, specifically?
I'm basing my opinions based off of the decades of information I've seen. Much of that information has been censored and as a result the native Chinese population, as well as many abroad, have a dangerous perception of themselves and the world. A perception that is ultimately a threat to my values and my well being.

>He wants some reconciliation between Hong Kong and China
He wants what every other nationalist Chinese wants. That is Chinese dominance. He is much like George Lopez. He seems nice, but when you hear what he says when he knows the mainstream won't be privy to it, it is obvious what kind of person he is.

>China isn't some super villain that the western world always portrays it as.
China isn't a super villain. However, it was supremacy over the world power and subservience from the world's people. It is the pros of the United States economy without most of the basic standards for human decency. You may go ahead and say I'm misguided or too inundated with propaganda from western media but I can tell you for a fact that I've done dozens of hours of research and probably know more about China's socioeconomic policy than most.

>In the end, they're all Chinese people, there's no reason for divide.
Lol. My chink radar is flaring.

>For example if California (or any one state) wanted to be it's own country, how would you feel?
That is a terrible example.

>>3362617
Taiwan is sinking under control of the CCCP every day. Even their president is a CCCP shill.

>>3362781
See: http://plus4chan.org/boards/n/. There should be a thread on page 1 or 2 discussing China's recent spree for materials.

>>3362799
That isn't how bonds work brosef.

>>3362781
i loled

CCCP, as in Союз Советских Социалистических Республик?

Chinese people are awesome. You can kill 50 million and nobody will say a thing...

...BECAUSE NOTHING OF VALUE WAS LOST

(in b4 communism dehumaizes people)

>>3363052
Fuck. I meant to say CCP.

Where is the love?

>>3363055
Truth. You could even kill another 50 million.

>>3363044
So basically you're afraid of being ruled by Chinese people. All I can say is that you're delusional. China has no grand scheme to rule the world. It's merely operating under the same principles EVERY country is operating under to protect their own interests.

You think China really wants to enslave all white people?

>>3363068

0/10, try harder, troll.

Taiwan/British Hong Kong > anything China could ever hope for.

Even Singapore shits on China.

>>3363097
Actually, the ITT: Jews thread the other day was maybe the best in a long time. I really learned a lot.

>>3362625

And the only reason was to try to curry favor with the US. There was no real difference between Tawain and China up into that point.

>>3362181
Uh.... Isn't he pretty much saying that the Chinese don't deserve freedom because of how they are? Wanting to be controlled or else you'll do whatever you want isn't a good thing. He's saying that they're too weak for freedom.

>>3363110
Yeah I liked that one as well.

/tv/ - News

>>3363088
>So basically you're afraid of being ruled by Chinese people.
Yawn. If you're going to hyperbolize my commentary at least do it proficiently. Skewing words is child's play.

>China has no grand scheme to rule the world.
China has a grand scheme to be the dominant superpower in the world where everybody else is subservient to it.

>It's merely operating under the same principles EVERY country is operating under to protect their own interests.
There is a difference between protecting your own interests and:
1) Compromised chips in every country's infrastructure
2) Spreading ethnic Han Chinese to all parts of the globe in order to dilute the native gene pool.
3) Genocide
4) etc

I could go on and on. Go ahead and the information up online. I guarantee for that every thing you discover you'll find four that you wouldn't believe.

ITT: Meals on Wheels?

I for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords.

China will never rule the west. The language is too hard to learn. Serenity/Firefly was a lie. We will NEVER speak Chinese.

>>3363044
>China isn't a super villain. However, it was supremacy over the world power and subservience from the world's people.
The ironic thing about this is, is that in reality the West, in particular the US is the greatest abuser of this power lust. The US can never shut up about the politics of other countries, even when their own country is in a mes - which is the main reason I suspect that other countries dislike the US.

Face it, what you're saying isn't as revealing about JC's Chinese nationalism as it is about your own White nationalism.

ITT: I'D RATHER BE BROWN THAN YELLOW

>>3363172
COOL STORY BRO

>>3363172
Pic related. It's you.

JC likes being Chinese, but he hates "China." Most Chinese do.

In b4 you could say the same shit about Americans

>>3363211
>The ironic thing about this is, is that in reality the West, in particular the US is the greatest abuser of this power lust.
I agree it is. However the two nation's goals are what make them categorically different.

>The US can never shut up about the politics of other countries
Yes... the United States isn't a isolationist state. Figures talk... as occurs in every other nation.

>which is the main reason I suspect that other countries dislike the US.
What is your native country/home? Have you ever been to the true third world? I guarantee you that what you just said is the least of the reasons why people 'dislike' the US.

>Face it, what you're saying isn't as revealing about JC's Chinese nationalism as it is about your own White nationalism.
Nice fail there brosef. You've assumed I am:
1) American
2) White

Great job on chalking up my opinion to racial prejudices. You sure are open minded. I'm sure mommy would be proud.

>Jackie Chan

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzrrrrrrr...

Chinese are 99 percent dumbfuck peasants and 1% slave workers.

>>3363240
Yawn. I guess documented fact is toilfoil hattery?

Here are some recent articles about it. Go ahead and read them then call me a troofer:
http://plus4chan.org/boards/n/res/113964.html
http://plus4chan.org/boards/n/res/114150.html
http://plus4chan.org/boards/n/res/114088.html
http://plus4chan.org/boards/n/res/114089.html
http://plus4chan.org/boards/n/res/114500.html

Western Culture = individualistic
Asian Culture = collectivist

neither is better, just different; I'm as AMERICUH FUCK YEA as anyone else but if thousands of years without democracy is the way they're used to it let them live however the fuck they want

>>3363269
>Yes... the United States isn't a isolationist state. Figures talk... as occurs in every other nation.
The thing is, they don't get into foreign nations politics out of the interest of the people who are living under those policies, but to:
1) convince the foreign people to rebel against their own governments to destabilize the country
2) convince their own people that they're living in a much better country with more freedom

>>3363269
You don't have to be white to champion white nationalism broseph. Seems like the fail is in your part. You seem to love taking white cock in the ass.

China is the lowest common denominator of humanity.

>>3363324
Which is why I agreed that the United States has engaged in egregious abuses of power. This is also why I said that the end goals are categorically different.

>>3363330
You're boring me. At least try to be entertaining when you're feebly attempting to get some rage out of me?

>>3363354
>This is also why I said that the end goals are categorically different.
Praytell what do you perceive the 'end goals' of America and China to be? Tell me, so I can have a good laugh.

PS There is no right answer. The very fact that you mention an 'end goal' is intrinsically wrong.

China will:

eat anything with legs but a table
eat anything that flies but a plane
eat anything in the seas but a submarine

And torture/kill anyone who denounces the Communist Party.

>>3363331
Brosef makes a point

Troy Stratos is a faggot?

I don't think you can really say that China can be held to any standards of the rest of the world.

Theres places like Africa, where its obvious the place is in the shitter.
But then you got China where they have 1.3 billion and climbing and the government is up in your ass about everything.

Once watched this vid(obviously, the chinese looked over the finished docu and edited out parts) and this woman wanted to have another baby and this commitee of three people would come by everyday until she agreed not to.
It's fucked up, but being an American this is about as far as you can get from American values.

Look what happened to Russia when they finally got democracy.

>Another lawmaker, Albert Ho, called the comments "racist," adding: "People around the world are running their own countries. Why can't Chinese do the same?"

running their own countries and other countries. Just like AmeriKKKa.

fix'd

ITT: Butthurt Rednecks. Get back to the white power rally you faggots.

>>3363354
>Praytell what do you perceive the 'end goals' of America and China to be?
They differ depending on which region of power within the respective countries you believe to be most influential. It also depends on which generation you are using as the looking glass.

China - Maritime expansion in order to control the entirety of the South China Sea, increased political influence as well as an increased Han population in Southeast Asia, removal of the Ughyr Muslims in Western China, ideological and ethnic control of Tibet. To continue the industrialization of China, to raise the standards of living within the Chinese population to that of the current official 'estimates'. To secure the majority of the world's remaining resources... Those are the most immediate. For their ideological goals, which will the their ultimate tool: For the western world to mirror the majority of the Chinese population's social contract.

United States - The United States goal's are much more flexible due to the balance of power. Within each branch of government there niche goals and amongst the entirety of the government you have a generalized conceptual goal. Today the United States government primarily wants the Chinese population to continue its increased demand of standards of living, including but not limited to socioeconomic standards and political freedom, increased usage of China as a financial rubber band. Continued increases would give better chance of China developing into Germany/Japan styled nation. You also have the obvious military points which I'm at the point of not caring to type out. Then you have the civilian points. Again, they are varied depending on demographic and I don't care to type them out. If you really want me to go further into some of those I will.

Can we all just get along? Every country has up and downsides.

chinese
CHINEEEEEEEEESE

chINESE

CHINEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEE

>>3363460
>Look what happened to Russia when they finally got democracy.

Child pornography and criminal syndicatism?

CHINA WILL GROW LARGER!

China = dog eaters and fail!

>>3363509
End goals keep changing. The fact that China has not succeeded in doing any of the things you included in your list automatically makes them better than Americans. Or are you forgetting the natives?

>>3363602
>End goals keep changing.
Isn't that what I just said?

>The fact that China has not succeeded in doing any of the things you included in your list automatically makes them better than Americans.
What?

>Or are you forgetting the natives?
In which regard?

>Or are you forgetting the natives?
The ones the Europeans wiped out with disease and expansion? They destroyed their ecosystem including the natives. Wiped out 3/4 of the native population long before we were a country. Some say the Americas was populated in the hundreds of millions (200+ million). Europeans just like to pretend "it's Americas fault!"

>>3363625
I doubt the Native American population was ever that high.

>>3363618
In the regard that they were systematically eradicated from their own home.

>End goals keep changing.
>Isn't that what I just said?
In that regard they are not 'end goals'.

>For the western world to mirror the majority of the Chinese population's social contract.
In other words, equality? See as how the opposite (China being dependent on the West) has been true for so long.

>>3363633
You doubt? And who are you and what books have you written?

/tv/ - faps to Faux News

>>3363625
A quarter of caucasian Americans are of German descent. The second largest portion is made up of Irish. Both sound quite European to me.

>>3363639
>In the regard that they were systematically eradicated from their own home.
Hundreds of years ago. There is a substantial difference between what has occurred previously and what is occurring as we speak.

>In that regard they are not 'end goals'.
I've already explained the end goals. They are vague as there is no blueprint. My explanation of near-long term goals shows direction.

>In other words, equality?
Not necessarily. There are many variations that can occur. The aim is to have a quasi westernized China.

>See as how the opposite (China being dependent on the West) has been true for so long.
And?

>>3363642
I'm somebody on the internet. Who are you?
And here is one reason as to why I doubt your 200 million claim: http://www.wisc.edu/wisconsinpress/books/0289.htm.

>>3363644
I watch Fox News like its comedy hour.

what, like he doesnt have a fucking point?

jesus christ you PC fucks.

>>3363696
>Hundreds of years ago. There is a substantial difference between what has occurred previously and what is occurring as we speak.
How about the Iraq war?

>>3363714
Your point? I vehemently disagree with how poorly is was handled. And don't like me that crap of half a million. The number improperly expresses that the death toll is due to the US invasion. I sure hope you won't next say because America has its flaws as serious problems of its own that I should ignore China's.

>>3363740
My point was why go after Iraq who had nothing to do with 9/11 and had no WMDs? What exonerates Americans from going against the UN to start a petty war of 'liberation' against a dictator who was the only thing maintaining stability of the region?

>>3363772
>My point was why go after Iraq who had nothing to do with 9/11 and had no WMDs?
There was no legitimate point. I've never stated that there was.

>What exonerates Americans from going against the UN to start a petty war of 'liberation' against a dictator who was the only thing maintaining stability of the region?
Nada. Like I have said. It was terribly managed. Bush was a retard. And half of America was retarded for voting for him twice.

>>3363802
Well there you go. I just named something fairly recent that by all accounts goes against your 'end goals' and already puts America behind China in terms of 'moral values'.

>>3363832
>Well there you go. I just named something fairly recent that by all accounts goes against your 'end goals'
I was talking in regards to China. As this thread is centered around China... Bringing up the Middle East would be quite off topic. And there is no fucking way I'm going into the Bush strategy on Islam/Middle East. That would take far too long for me to even write up something basic.

>already puts America behind China in terms of 'moral values'.
0/10

>>3363878
Ok, now I know you're just a troll. I like how you dismissed such a gross violation of human rights, with a 'lol we're not talking about that'. We are. We are comparing crimes of the US to the crimes of China. You accuse China of trying to rule the world when currently America is doing just that.

THIS MAY BE HARD FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY. NOBODY IS IN CHARGE. IT'S A HEADLESS BLUNDER OPERATING UNDER THE ILLUSION OF A MASTER PLAN. CAN YOU GRASP THAT? BIG BROTHER IS NOT WATCHING YOU.

>He went on to say that freedoms in Hong Kong and Taiwan made those societies "chaotic."
>Chan's comments drew applause from a predominantly Chinese audience of business leaders

well at least their businessmen are honest about what kind of society they want

>>3363940
I've been trying to be polite since its painfully obvious that this conversation is above your head.

>I like how you dismissed such a gross violation of human rights, with a 'lol we're not talking about that'.
I never dismissed anything. I said, within the context of my summation of Chinese/American goals, that my explaining of the middle east within that post would have been off topic. Since you've decided to go with the tired route of Iraq/Afghanistan I then explained to you, as you did not grasp my intentional omission, why I had not Bush's policy towards Islam/the Middle East.

>We are comparing crimes of the US to the crimes of China.
Within the explicit description you just gave I must say that you are incorrect in your assumed comparison of the two parties. The two parties in themselves are not of the same structure therefore the description to which you associate them with is not valid.

>You accuse China of trying to rule the world when currently America is doing just that.
You really need to brush up on your history man. And using Iraq/Afghanistan as the primary defining factor in which you compare the United States to China is in essence a logical fallacy. You need to use a better scale. A more realistic, and appropriate, scale.

>>3364047
I see no problem whatsoever in bringing up the Iraq war. It's not off-topic, it's not too complicated to discuss. It's fair game pure and simple. In fact, I would consider it a prime example of hypocrisy on the American's part.

Also brushing up on my history seems to be pointless seeing you're selectively using examples from history.

>>3364204
If you are a troll I must say good job. I'm actually irritated.

>I see no problem whatsoever in bringing up the Iraq war.
There is no problem.

>It's not off-topic
It was off topic for me to include a segment on it in my comment before you had brought it up. Now you have. You also made a comment referencing my lack of commentary on it. Which is why I have been explaining to you that it would have been off topic for me to tangently discuss it prior to you shifting the course of our discussion to it.

>Also brushing up on my history seems to be pointless seeing you're selectively using examples from history.
/Facepalm

>>3364220
Seeing as how you have no problem with it then, refer to >>3363832

A superpower using its massive economic and military influence around the world for its own interests?! NO WAY, YOU'RE CRAZY! The British never exploited everyone else when they were a world superpower, they always colonized other countries purely out of the kindness of their hearts! And America never did it until Iraq either!

>>3364235
I already have... >>3363878
>0/10

My response to that comment, in its ludicrousness, should be self-explanatory.

>>3364262
Your reply was that it did not apply to this conversation, but you even admitted yourself that it did in >>3364220

Anyways, look up xenophobia in the dictionary. You have it.

>>3364268
You are what happens when people with above average intelligence, with more than just a snuff of pride, get into a conversation pertaining to materials above their head. While most of the time this probably is not the case for you, in this instance it is. It is a shame though. You are capable of understanding and growing further but your ego hinders you.

>Your reply was that it did not apply to this conversation
No my reply was "0/10".

>you even admitted
To have to admit would first require one to deny or place the implication of denial into the sphere of the conversation. There never occurred. You failed to recognize my intent of commentary, despite it being it being accurate expressed, and then continued to pursue down the course you obviously have constructed for me as the result of your inaccurate perception of my character and the information portrayed.

>Anyways, look up xenophobia in the dictionary.
Way to misuse the word. If you were accurate in your assumption of my irrational fear or hatred I would be a bigot. Xenophobia refers to all things foreign or different.

>You have it.
Of course that is the easy way for you to bring closure to yourself in this conversation. How unfortunate for you.

Well I doubt you are coming back to the thread but just in case -- I'm heading to bed. If the thread still exists tomorrow, and I can find it, I'll respond.

China sucks. Just ask this guy.

>>3362181
>"I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we're not being controlled, we'll just do what we want."


Wut?

"These 50 years have brought untold suffering and destruction to the land and people of Tibet". Lamenting that Tibetan culture and identity were "nearing extinction", he said "even today Tibetans in Tibet live in constant fear ... regarded like criminals, deserving to be put to death".

Tibet's government-in-exile says that more than 80,000 people died between March and October of 1959 alone and that at least 200 more were killed last year when Chinese security forces clamped down on protests marking the anniversary.

You guys just happily eat up all the lies your governments tell you about China, you ever stop to think that your leaders might have an agenda?

>>3365702
A classmate of mine was at Tienanmen. He tols us all about what really went down.

Off to the concentration camps you go!

Chinese party van!!!!!

Say whatever you want about their politics, but there is no fucking way in hell that you can justify this shit.

http://organharvestinvestigation.net/

>>3365734
Cool. Now you can get cheap organs from China, too.

>>3365734
Yeah, very few people are reporting it though. Most don't know about what is going on.

chinese moar like chylons amirite?

As an Americanfag who has been living in China for 20 years, I just gotta say, fuck the haters. China rules. The truth is Chinese citizens have just as many "freedoms" as Americans and Europeans. Every country has it's problems, and China has quite a few of their own. Learn the culture of this country and get to know the people or fuck off. It's not any worse than the west.

>>3365917
I'm sorry, all I heard was
CHING CHONG NIP NONG KARL MARX KARL MARX DEATH TO AMERICA PREEZ

asians=niggers2.0

>>3365917

You only typed that because you know if you said anything critical of China you'd be imprisoned like so many thousands of others.

>>3365917
>>fuck the haters
>>China rules
>>fuck off

Awesome troll is awesome.

HEN HAO!!!

>>3365917
if it is so great why don't you give up your American passport?

>>3365917 As an Austrianfag who has been living in America for 41 years, I just gotta say, fuck the haters. America rules. The truth is American citizens have just as many "freedoms" as Austrians and Europeans. Every country has it's problems, and America has quite a few of their own. Learn the culture of this country and get to know the people or fuck off. It's not any worse than the west.

>>3365917

>>3362181
Kung Fu film star Jackie Chan Monday admitted that he acted in a porn movie 31 years ago, responding to a report revealed by Hong Kong media, Information Times reported Tuesday.

"I had to do anything I could to make a living 31 years ago, but I don't think it's a big deal, even Marlon Brando used to be exposed in his movies," Chan said. "The porn movie at that time was more conservative than the current films," he said.

Hong Kong netizens tipped local media that Chan was in the porn movie "All in the Family" in 1975, with a porn movie star who was famous at that time.

The Hong Kong made movie, directed by Zhu Mu, was defined as a comedy. Dean Shek, Tien Chun, and Sammo Hung were also co-stars.

>>3365702
No oil in Tibet, so soli no army for you.

>>3366251
The same reason that America pulled out of Somalia

and does nothing in Rawanda
and does nothing in Darfur
and does nothing in Congo
and did nothing in South Africa
etc etc

(we will be staging another coup in Venezuela soon though)

>>3366189
>The Hong Kong made movie, directed by Zhu Mu, was defined as a comedy. Dean Shek, Tien Chun, and Sammo Hung were also co-stars.
oh, sammo, no

>>3366297
Dude can move pretty quick for a fat guy. No doubt that he waxed DAT ASS

America needs to get their shit straight before they can criticize other countries. Seriously.

>>3362406
>I agree with Jackie Chan mainly because I trust in his judgement