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My mind is fucking blown right now

I had no idea this was Dalton

Goldeneye was written for him put the production ended up with legal troubles that delayed it and he walked. Given he also turned down the chance to replace Connery, walking away from Bond was something he was rather good at.

Any case, Daylights is an absolutely magnificent Bond movie, one of the best of the series any way you come at it, and one of the only ones that works as a genuinely good espionage thriller if you ignore that it's a Bond movie.

He was supposed to be Connery's successor with On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

Could you imagine if we had gritty Bond after Connery? How different the series would be? Without Roger Moore?

The whole series would be different.

Hell, cinema in general would be different.

maybe because he's too gorgeous to portray james bond

Man. Dalton looks EXACTLY like Fleming described him.

Imagine his Bond and Craig's Bond combined?

It's be the best Bond ever.

Skyfall’s success isn’t a surprise. It should probably be the first Bond film to win a Best Picture Oscar—not because it’s the best (Goldfinger and On Her Majesty’s Secret Service are still the series’ high points)—but because Skyfall maintains quality popular filmmaking in an era that’s lost sight of what that means.

Dalton is fantastic. I hate it when people say he's boring or when people say he wasn't charismatic.HE played Bond in his own way, and it was great. The worst was when they forced Moore-style scenes on him.The end of License to Kill is a Travesty. They should have ended with him killing Franz. Him jumping into the pool and the winking fish was just cringe worthy. Plus talking about going fishing with Felix, who's waaay too chipper after having his wife murdered and raped and losing a leg.

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>>27238398

And one of the best villains of the decade to boot.

>Do feel free to spool through

>>27238527
That picture costs me a rib every time I see it.

>>27238385 (OP)
>Why didn't Dalton stay on for another decade or so?
Legal issues pushed Dalton's contracted third film's release date back so far that he dropped out from the project. There was a script for it before the delay in '91-ish, but it was scrapped post-delay for Goldeneye, which was also still intended to be his third outing.

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>>27238498
>On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
The shit? I love OHMSS but it's deeply, deeply flawed. Lazenby handles the physical side admirably but it wooden when he's required to act, the pacing is absolutely terrible with the movie essentially two radically different halves stitched together (one of which doesn't even feel like a Bond movie in the least), the writing of the characters drifts (he's supposed to be in love with Teresa then goes and sleeps with seventeen women without a second thought or any sign of emotional conflict), and the villain is weak (Savalis is a shit Blofeld and the allergies plot is late-period Moore or Brosnan cheese).

It's still great for what it tries to do and unarguably essential, but it was a few drafts and an actor with the range of Dalton away from being a high point.

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>>27238498
>skyfall
>best picture oscar

>>27238498
you nailed it. I went to see Skyfall during a Saturday matinee and it was the most people I'd seen in a theater all year.

>>27238385 (OP)
dalton was good but the movie had massive pacing problems, when i watched it again for the 2nd time i didnt like it.

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>>27238587
>Impugning the awesomeness of the Living Daylights
We don't like your sort around here.

What are the top ten Bond movies?

>>27238583
>>27238571
>>27238570

Sorry, that was just a quote from Armond White's review.

I'd put From Russia With Love as the best, next to Casino Royale

Haven't seen Skyfall

>http://nypress.com/on-his-majestys-secret-service-007s-skyfall-goes-sky-high/

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>>27238644
This my list

>>27238570
Savalas plays Blofeld great. He's like a low level crime lord who rose up in the ranks and is now trying to seem more classy and cultured than he really is.

My one issue is that it's such a different Blofeld from Donald Pleasence. All the cast changes outside of Bond in the old series annoyed me, especially Felix (the first was the best one between Connery and Moore's felixes. And I liked Living Daylights Felix much more than LTK Felix, who I thought had no chemistry with Dalton.) Diamonds Blofeld just felt like a waste.

>>27238668
>casino royale
>god tier

i agree with the rest though

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>>27238668
>world is not enough
>thunderball
>golden gun
>licence to kill
>good

>living daylights
>meh

>moonraker
>shit

>>27238644
Top seven are fairly easy:
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
OHMSS
The Spy Who Loved Me
The Living Daylights
Goldeneye
Casino Royale

Not sure I can drop one of these for the final slots, though:
Dr. No
Thunderball
For Your Eyes Only
Licence to Kill

>>27238668
Die Another Day started off pretty strong, too bad it all turned to shit as soon as Bond faked a cardiac arrest

>>27238668
Stop trying to troll me and troll me.

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Handsome devil too

>>27238728
Moonraker was shit, what's your beef?

>>27238668

>For Your Eyes Only
>Not Moore's best Bond

Come on son.

>>27238668
Quantum of Solace wasn't THAT bad. What's everybody's issue with it?

Bond power rankings:

Sean Connery
Daniel Craig
Pierce Brosnan
Roger Moore
Timothy Dalton
George Lazenby

>>27238697
I can see that argument, but all I see when I watch him is Dr. Evil holding the world ransom for one million dollars or he'll release unleash allergies muwahahaha.

And absolutely, a lot of those supporting cast changes were really random and disconcerting.

>>27238728
the rest is subjective but moonraker is definitely a pile of shit

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>>27238398
>>27238527
He was awesome in that

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>>27238806
I....agree with you? That feels weird to type on 4chan.

>>27238805
Seriously, it's become a 2deep4u movie for /tv/. With its intricate but not entirely convoluted plot.

It doesn't help that it had the impossible task of living up to Casino Royale. Had the writers strike not happened, it would have had more time to be done right and we would have had a better movie.

It also would have helped if Marc Forster didn't move the gunbarrel to the end to try to be different.

>>27238806
> Pierce Brosnan above Roger Moore
> Pierce Brosnan and Roger Moore above Based Dalton
No. Just no.

>>27238860
It would have helped more if Marc Foster wasn't an ADD-addled monkey on crack. Then he might have been willing to give some of the plot points room to develop properly and maybe even could have filmed an intelligible action sequence or two.

Granted it's nowhere near as bad as Die Another Day, but it's not even in the conversation for being in the top half of Bond movies.

>>27238770
I actually LIKE FYEO, but come on, Spy Who Loved ME is Moore's best. It's such a fun movie without being cringeworthy like LaLD or TMwtGG were. That Union Jack parachute to the ending version of "Nobody does it Better" is just great.

>>27238930

The opening is awesome, but the rest of the film felt profoundly mediocre to me. It just feels like a "best of" of the earlier Bond flicks.

>>27238968
Nah man. So many great action scenes in Spy Who Loved Me. And Moore is actually funny in it.

>>27238734

>not remembering that movie opens with CGI gunbarrell and Surf Ninjas

>>27238980
Except when he straight up murders the fuck out of Stromberg. Empties a clip in his crippled ass, at point blank range.

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>>27238993
That'll learn him

>>27238993
Exactly. Just like Bond SHOULD do.


It's the perfect Bond movie for Moore. One where he could be campy AND cold.

>>27238968
While I think that is true, I feel like a lot of what TSWLM did is refine a lot of aspects of prior Bond films and make them into what a lot of people associate with the Bond films. so you have things like the Russian agent as a love interest like in From Russia with love, but this time she's an actual agent. Or the supervillain lair, like in YOLT, but this time it's more visually distinct and iconic. Or gadgets like the underwater car. Basically, it takes everything from past films and exaggerates it more, so it sets Moore's Bond out from Connery and dalton's take. It's totally what the Brosnan fllms wanted to be and what Austin Powers was aping.

Moonraker is very underrated. Deal with it.

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The man's voice is... hngggh.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_2ysuLZTgw

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>mfw nobody mentions that in the director's commentary Glen says that one of things that was supposed to make TLD different was that Bond was supposed to fall in love for the first time

Call yourselves fans of the series, do ye?

>>27239258
That really helped make TLD a better film, having Bond focus on one woman (although he did bang that one on the boat at the start I guess) Casino Royale pretty much focused on the one woman as well

They'd done him falling in love before though, back in OHMSS

Dalton always seems angry. Like all the time. What's he so fucking angry at? I can understand in License to Kill, he's on a mission of vengeance, but throughout The Living Daylight he acts like he's got to take a shit or something.

Anyway, proper rankings:

1) Connery
2) Dalton and Brosnan
3) Lazenby
4) Moore and Craig

I don't understand this love affair everyone's having with Daniel Craig. He's physically intense, but he's always got this dour, blank look on his face like he's just been lebotimized and his face looks vaguely cavemanish, with that protruding brow. Frankly, the man can't emote well.

I like all the Bonds, but this blowing of Craig is stupid. Want to know why the movies he's been in are good? The writing. Imagine how much better Casino Royale would have been had they gotten a Bond who had chemistry with Eva Green's Vesper? This Bond is about as charming as a tumor.

>>27238440

I don't think you can realy blame Roger Moore. He gave a perfectly good performance in FYEO. I think it comes down to Albert Broccoli having a really bad sense of humour and no idea of what works and what doesn't work. All the Bond films are sort of weird in a way, like amateur movies.

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I'm gonna jump on the bandwagon and say modern Dalton and Ra's al Brosnan would probably make some fantastic Bond villains.

Also I just watched Goldeneye for the first time, don't exactly see why its held in such high esteem by still quite a good movie.

>>27239168

>Timothy Dalton trying to find and meet a real wolf

Dalton confirmed real man.

>>27239659

Most Bond movies are actually kind of bad. So when one of them is pretty good, it's a cause celebre.

Timothy Dalton is so fucking underrated it's not even funny.

>>27238668
>The World Is Not Enough

Do you even Bond?

>>27238805
Its God damn boring. Its not hard to grasp but its just so dreadfully boring. I never felt tension at all, in fact I was laughing during the climax of the film. The only really cool scene was the opera house scene.

Reading reviews of The Living Daylights from 1987 it seems that the world simply wasn't yet ready for a more serious Bond.

The running theme seems to be complaints over Dalton being too humorless and serious and the story not being outlandish and crazy enough, and many of these critics went on to heap praises upon Daniel Craig some 19 years later.

Poor Tim, he's a victim of bad timing and bad luck.

>>27240034
God damn you Rooger Moore you son of a bitch.

I like Roger Moore? In The Spy Who Loved Me, particularly, he's a much better actor than everyone else in the motherfucker and it's kind of awkward to watch