> Cause here we don't have popularity issues

Enjoy Never never land

this is like asking somebody from Baltimore if The Wire is accurate

of course it fucking is

Of course popular kids in America don't let trash sit with them. Here in America, we teach our children how to look down their noses at lesser people.

Depends on the school, I guess. My high school was nothing like the stereotype.

Hmm I'm also interested. I always found that strange in those american teen films.

>Cause here we don't have popularity issues. Just wondering...
Riiiiiiiiight.

That's how it was at my middle school. In high school we could go off campus so no one was ever in the cafeteria except for me and the kid with down syndrome who would have scream-inducing migraines.

Its extremely exaggerated.

Also, what I find lulzy is that in 90% of these movies band kids are treated like geeky outcasts. Band kids at my high school were the most popular ones, moreso than the football players, which is amusing since I'm in south Texas.

Cliques exist in any social collection, high school being no exception. The movie industry capitalizes on this for the sake of plot and redemption stories. That's not hard to grasp, is it?

Only if you go to a school in a rich neighbor hood

Yeah, American society is fucked in the head, and each generation is worse than the one before

>>2596429
>i dont know what i'm talking about, but i like what i'm saying

Whatever school you're at there is always that one weird kid or a group of weird smelly kids who sit on their own in the corner getting laughed at.

swedenfag here.. lived in germany too.

it's the same here. everyone sits in "groups".

>>2596429
Back in my day we worked for a living. Kids today with their image boards and their namby famby iPods and computers. They don't know anything real. I had to walk 15 miles to school everyday, in the snow, without shoes, and that's how it was AND WE LIKED IT!!

>>2596423

>Band kids at my high school were the most popular ones, moreso than the football players

oh god, i thought it was just my highschool. the band was the most powerful social group in my school; the football players were really down to earth and most of them were pretty friendly. we used to call the band "the mafia", and i was fucking scared of them.

No, high school was nothing like the movies, at least for me. We were all friendly with each other, saying wassup in the hallway, waving each other over to tables if there were no empty seats.

In my school we had the so-called "popular" crow, but only they called themselves popular because they shopped at abercrombie and american eagle and only hung out with each other. This wasn't because they were "too cool" to hang out with the rest of us, but more because everybody else hated them.

Also, after my senior year I went to Germany for an exchange program. They had the same elitist bullshit there as we do here.

>>2596438

Lies. In my school there were groups, but there were no strange kids or whatever. We all partied together, and every single one of us ( including the shy nerd girl and fat boy ) got really fucking drunk at the end. No one was excluded for not being popular.

(Not American)

My high school was ruled by a clique of Baptist youth-groupers. They were probably the only Baptist kids in town, but they ran the student government, they were the stars of the rugby team, and some of the smartest/nerdiest kids in school. They were nice and everything though, it wasn't like they were snobs who bullied their way into getting what they wanted.

>>2596423

I'm from south texas as well (Corpus Christi) and the band kids weren't fags, but they were by no means the most popular. Most popular were all the rich honors kids.

>>2596439
Swefag here, it's not like this at all at my school and if you endorse this piece of shit behaviour you'll get fucked up.

Also, enjoy stockholm schools or wherever the hell you live.

Germanfag here. We have a few groups but they are all friendly and hang out with each other. We don't have that popularity bullshit here but still there are 2 kids that are always alone and nobody cares about them

Social circles are the same everywhere. I studied for a year in the U.S. and I did pretty well, I guess. I played football, wrestled and played lacrosse. Everyody knew me and was friendly towards me.

I guess it all comes down on how you act towards people. I always waved people hello or said hi if I saw them outside the school and stuff. I wouldn't say I was popular, but I was known.

>>2596489
>rich
>honors

Were those actually correlated? That's strange.
I came from a pretty big high school and I was in the GT/Honors/whatever classes, and I will say, however, that almost every one of them was a vapid fuckwit.

>>2596372
It wasn't like that in my High School. I never noticed any really distinguished cliques. At the very least the few sub-groups their were never bothered each other.

In my high school, the black kids never sat with any white kids, and started shit in any way possible, while yelling loudly about unimportant things.
However, only some white kids looked down on me. The rest were pretty okay.

>However, only some white kids looked down on me.
and this thread turns into a support group.

In middle school and junior high, there were popularity issues. By the time high school rolled around, everyone was friends with everyone else or at least civil. There were preferred seating arrangements but we all sat with whoever on certain days.

I think the movie stereotypes are grossly exaggerated. There's always a few people you can't stand but none of the popular vs unpopular crap.

I went to military highschools. We didn't care about that shit.

S'long as you aint queer.

I know for a fact that football players and cheerleaders don't rule the school. It's whoever can reliably score drugs and alchohol, or folks in a band. My school was strange in that it's ruled by the weeaboo mafia.

>>2596601
I'm willing to bet a fair sum that you secretly sucked eachother's dicks, though.

Weren't any popularity issues where I was. Nobody really fucking cared as long as you were friendly. Sure, there were social groups and cliques, but none of them were especially worse than others and most were pretty diverse

Everyone was friendly at my school except the Koreans. They kept to themselves and were all snobby and elitist.

my school there are cliques but not traditional popular cliques since it's an art school. nobody rules over anybody else, but obviously different groups of people don't always get along. the arty kids and the band kids at my school are the most infamous i guess or the ones with the most notoreity, but they all judge people based on talent. which is better than judging based on appearance or whatever

but my sister's school is about two minutes away from mine and yet is the total typical high school from the movies. by her own admission, the cheerleaders and sluts are the popular ones, and the football jocks are the popular guys. doing drugs and being a whore is the way to go, and if you don't all look exactly like every other girl or guy at the school then that's grounds for everybody to shun you. band kids at her school are not cool.

>>2596677
Koreans are fucking assholes. Nobody likes them.

I've noticed that in almost every school, filipinos are the popular kids, including mine. I don't exactly know why.

i live in the UK and my school had some people who thought their life was like an american movie but a lot of people were more just normal.

>>2596662
Sounds like the school I attended.

It depends on the size of the school.

In a shcool where each year is a few hundred students or more, yes, arbitrary social groupings are srs business.

In a school like the one I grew up in, where each year is no more than maybe 50-60 kids, it's more "our age group vs theirs."

People basically have a maximum size on how many social relationships they can maintain and tend to form circles roughly that large in the most convenient way possible.

No, shit isn't accurate at all. Most accurate portrayal of high school i've seen is the wire. Then again I was a poor spic so that's probably why.

Lmfao @ white middle class people if this is really what their high schools are like.

>>2596798
>Lmfao @ white middle class people if this is really what their high schools are like.
lol, you're a minority.

>>2596423
>Band kids at my high school were the most popular ones, moreso than the football players, which is amusing since I'm in south Texas.

Ahahahahahahaha. That was a good one, bro.

>>2596677
>>2596677

Of all the asians anywhere, Koreans are perhaps the only ones I don't like.

Everywhere I go (militarybratfag here), they always keep to themselves.

A good number of them don't even speak fucking english, despite the fact that a lot of them have been in America all of their lives.

That being said, there are a lot of good Koreans. It's just that a majority of them are pricks and elitist bastards.

>>2596816

I would tell that to myself to if I was in the band.

I'm from an upper middle class neighborhood in NJ. We are exactly like the high school movie stereotype. Football jocks are assholes and are the most popular kids along with the cheerleaders. Art/theater/band kids like me are middle-tier and nerds are absolutely tortured on a daily basis (spit on, pushed around, laughed at, etc.). The druggies and sluts have their own group but no one particularly likes or dislikes them. The asian kids all act like niggers and drive riced up Civics and Integras.

Sounds retarded.

we don't have cheerleaders and bullshit like that here

>>2596726
Filipinos are like a blank slate. They don't have their own identities and mesh really well with whatever social clique they decide on. The ones at my school are all over the place; jocks, smart kids, in a band, with the weaboos. Generally friendly but overall pretty dull.

We had very few niggers at my school so they were well liked and treated like novelties.

The aryan kids are jocks/cheerleaders, the black kids are delinquents, the asians are either smart nerds or into cars, everyone else is a theaterfag or artfag.

No exceptions.

>>2596601
You said "schlong"

There really isn't any defined popularity thing at the school I go to. Go to a very ethnically diverse school and there are plenty of groups, many based on racial background, some with the idea that they are better than everyone else, but its not like they're worshiped by everyone else.

Norwegian here.

It's been a while since I was in High School, and a few things have changed, but basically there wasn't a social hierarky.

I went to a school with about 1500 pupils, divided into different educational paths. Like, we have mechanics pupils, art school, normal pre-college school ect in the same school. It wasn't really any cliques, but you'd normally stick with the people doing the same thing as you did.

A few girls thought they were in some kind of High School movie, but they got shunned because they were too shallow.

Because of the educational differences, you'd get a lot of similar people in the same areas of the school. This gave the impression of social cliques, but it wasn't like the people doing Atlethics would look down on the goth kids in Arts, or anything like that.

The only ones that got looked down on was the people doing Mechanics. They got stereotyped as tobacco-smoking yokels from the country-side, but that was only because around 7/10 of the mech's was retards drinking moonshine at parties, and most came from small towns. Also, they were the only ones known for fighting when drinking ect.

>>2596423

Where exactly in South Texas?

>>2596983
I'd like to be friends with the mechanics most likely.

I went to a small high school with around 400 students. It varied from class to class. My class was nothing like the movies.

My pseudo-suburban HS had (and still does have) the largest transfer ratio in the state, so by the end of my Sr. year it was basically everyone versus the Shaneeequas. Shit SUCKED.

I

Another Norway fag here, and I concur. I was one of the 'two weird' kids, but our class was always friendly towards us and invited us to parties (maybe pity, but still something).
There would be a few others hanging with us during breaks, sometimes even the most 'popular' dudes so never got shunned out of the social aspect by others, but rather did it myself.
Being friendly and funny (just one-liners after someone tells something) helps, and within our 'group' we would constantly burn others and each other for laughs and some kind of group hierarchy.

Also this is in one of those 'small hick towns' experience. The mechanic kids known for fighting and drinking heavily applies here too.

Went to one of the top high schools in the mid-west, 4000+ students high school around 1000+ per year level easily. Was there for 4 years and I couldn't tell you shit about the social hierarchy of the place, as I was playing loner and had no idea what popular meant or who was popular.
Life was pretty shitty back then, but its over, thats how I look at it. Don't see how anyone is able to figure out who's more popular or has control of events when its like a big mish mash all over the place of people. Too huge maybe? I never gave a shit.
Also, all the dregs always go to anime club. Its true.

I went to a smaller school in update NY and pretty much our entire senior class was friends. So, no not for me.

>>2597007
I'm not gonna stereotype you, but since you have the mental capasity of replying on 4chan, you wouldn't fit in with them. There is like 15 different educational lines, and most of the people in Mech (>50%) were too dumb to do something else. Seriously. They couldn't get into Electronics, Carpentry or some of the other "simple" lines. They were in Mech to get qualified for work, not because they wanted to.

A friend of mine had a few friends from secondary school (or something?) that became road-construction workers trough Mech. They all had 14-15 year old girlfriends (they were 18), and all the girls cheated on them with the other guys in the gang. One of the girls even got a baby that wasn't her (now-) fiancee's baby, but one of his friends.

I went to urban schools and they were nothing like Mean Girls or Boys N The Hood.

>>2596539
>>2596489
You know I was in a lot of honors classes and I never thought that being rich correlated to that at all. I was brought up to work hard for everything so that's why I was in a lot of those classes.

Which was weird to me during my senior year of high school I had to take a normal American Government class because of a scheduling conflict with an AP class I was taking. I guess the teacher was just used to rowdy poor kids with ADD because he was really authoritarian and "just trying to teach us the material so we could graduate". MUCH different tone than the Honors classes I took.

I came from a high school in suburban LA. I can say that there were no problems with everyone getting along. There were really no social groups. Your friends were your friends essentially.

>>2597049
Heey!

Where did you go to High School?

I'm from Bodø myself, so when I mean small towns, I'm talking about places with around 2000> people.

My high school is in one of the upper class suburbs on the north shore of Chicago, the place that Mean Girls was based off of in the first place. The name of the damn high school is "North Shore High." Most scenes were filmed in Canada or something, but some included our local mall and all the names of places are local.

It's very similar to the stereotypes in movies. Except that the "popular" kids, the preps, are a big exclusive group, not a small one. There is never really one most popular girl or guy, but there's definitely a whole social hierarchy. To be accepted you had to dress right and be able to afford the same expensive boots, coats, necklaces, etc. You definitely can't date someone who isn't in your clique, you can't sit beside them at lunch. This was very true for the first three years of high school, and somewhat senior year, but by then everyone was more mature and sick of being exclusive snobs and tried to reach out for new friends.

Canadafag here. My highschool was way too big to have cliques, really, and was have immigrant students anyway. The closest we had was people of the same language/race would hang out with each other.
The 'popular' kids where the student body, partially because everyone knew their names and faces and because they headed all the volunteer stuff, organizing everything, involved with the theater and band and sports. And they were nice as all fuck.

Funny enough though, my elementary school (up until 8th grade) was incredibly small and we did have a fairly stereotypical American teen-movie high school set up with the pretty, mean popular girls, the geeks, the art kids, ect. Looking back though, I think that was partially inspired BY those movie stereotypes in the first place: by thinking that this is how it should be, we made it that way.

Swefag here. Swedish highschool is usually free from this sort of popularity segregation, mostly I think because it's modelled similarly to american colleges.

A student applying for high school (it's not compulsory), selects a major which will be the main focus of study over the coming 3 years. These majors range from everything to arts, social sciences, natural sciences and math, sports (or general PE) and various other niche or labor related majors such as construction or automechanics. There are even such niches as race car driving (I shit you not), space technology and icehockey. Later the student goes on to select various minors and so on alongside the ”core” subjects which everyone must take (a few classes of history etc).

Anyway, the point I'm trying illustrate is that because of this early specialization, the student tends to end up in classes (and at schools) with likeminded people, thus eliminating popular segregation almost alltogether. Sure, most people have a group of close friends and then there's "the rest of the class", but who could ever maintain active (and meaningful) relationships with 20 people anyway?

Yes, this is segregation as well. But it is segregation by choice, not by popularity or chance. Some may argue that this ultimately inhibits personal growth or whatever, since your range of social interaction is more limited than it would've been if everyone were just clumped together at random. But I for one really didn't mind being in a classroom where pretty much everyone were interested in what was on the agenda, or being able to discuss the topics that interested me with pretty much anyone in the class.

My High School (amerifag) was nothing like the stereotype you see in the movies. Everyone included eachother in their social groups and were very open-minded. The only social outcasts we had were the people who chose to be outcasts. Yeah, you even saw nerdy (not stereotypically nerdy, just not as outgoing) kids hang out with hot chicks.

Ultimately, the kids who had the most friends were the drug dealers for obvious reasons. Yeah my High School was pretty fun.

>>2597184

here. I guess Norway and Sweden are neighbours after all. I forgot to mention that the "mech" students in Sweden are pretty much the same as those in Norway. And I guess that say something, but I don't care to speculate at the momet.

>>2597184
That sounds horrible. You expect kids to pick their career/life path before entering high school?!

Im part of the faggot clique, i don't really mind.

>>2597204

No, you can still read whatever you want when you get to college. Also, college is free.

>>2597234
>Also, college is free.

What?!

>>2597204
It's the same here. Don't know when you start high school, but we start it at 16. At that point you know if you want to go to college or not. The ones that don't usually pick something they would like to do + a one year of pre-college course made for people with practical education, leaving every option open.

This is Norway, though.

>>2597241

im not the swefag, but thats one of the main reasons i wanted to to college in sweden, but i couldnt ;_;

>>2597241
Welcome to socialist hell. Free healthcare, paid maternity and paternity leave, guaranteed holidays and high standards of living.

Although it does get cold and dark. Also we have to wait for tuesdays for House.

>>2597204

Yes and no. The student is given an early choice, true, but it is not an absolute lifepath.

We also have what is equivalent to your community colleges (the difference being that they are free, like all education in Sweden). Here a student who, for example, chose arts but later in life realises he or she wants to become a doctor, can compensate for the science and math classes that are missing in order to be admissable to a medical school.

>>2597262
>Welcome to paradise.

FUCK.

>>2597262
Yes and months of vacation time. Europeans really know how to live. Americans work their asses off and all we get for it is to say we live in a country with a great GDP. Who fuckin cares?

>>2597234

Should be "university is free". Some of that college is done away with in high school. For instance, there's no such thing as pre-med. It's high school -> medical school (if you majored in science and math that is).

>>2597241

Yes, everything is free. Even the top-tier medical and law schools.

>>2597280

Ask someone living in Milan or London how much of a paradise it is, unless they're in the top 10% tax bracket. They'll never, ever own property, they probably don't own a car, and they're likely up to their eyeballs in credit card debt.

There must be some catch here. How could a country with such a good education system be so...uh small, inconsequential, not talked about...I can't find the right word. damn my poor education.

>>2597272
only works if you live in a place with so many people being awesome that when they pay taxes they can support everyone else because the population is low enough.

Basically, socialism actually working. I'd just want colleges to be state-run or at least fully funded, tuition is ridiculous. America spends more on prisons than colleges.

It seems like every school is different, but my high school was nothing like teen movies. Though, almost nothing in teen movies approaches anything resembling realism, so it kind of freaks me out that people from other countries take those films at face value. Here, we KNOW it's fake.

There were different cliques at my school, but it wasn't exclusive and based on friendships instead of popularity. The most popular kids were the valedictorian and other honors groups, and -oddly enough since this was the Deep South - the soccer team.

>>2597311

Academically inconsequential? Not talked about? If you're talking about taking up greater space in the debates of other countries, such as the US, I would guess it's because it's tax funded but independent from the state. And, well, truth be told, americans tend to frown upon anything that's tax funded.

If we're talking academically, then... Well, there's this little thing called the "Nobel Prize".

>>2597340
>Academically inconsequential?

Eh, strike the first word. I put it in the wrong place.

I was always a bit of an in-betweener myself during my school days. From where I stood I saw how all the different cliques operated, but there was by no means a stereotypical group of sexy 'popular' girls. In my school, all the best looking girls were very intelligent, respectable and polite. There were a gang of jock-type assholes who ripped on the other students alright, but nobody but themselves considered them to be popular.
There were a handful of emos, who where known for being very bright, but they all smoked, did drugs and were having sex long before anyone else was.
Finally there were the plain old idiots, who didnt bother anybody as such, but were as I say 'idiots' in every sense of the word

Swefag chiming in here. It really is great BUT, the grass is always greener on the otherside. If you think about it, things tend to get boring here in the North especially small/middlesized swedish towns are boring as fuck.

No malls, but all have about the same chains of shops wether its for clothes (MQ,JC,HM), shoes (Din Sko is fucking everywhere), and shit.

>>2597325
My god. What are they seeing?

>>2597296
The only difference between colleges and universities in the US is the history behind the building of the school. They're only differentiated in Europe and Asia, though I don't really know what they do in South America and Africa.

It isn't.

I rage anytime I see a shit movie like that.

>>2597317
american universities are the best becaues the government doesn't meddle with them very much.

>>2597358
It looks vaguely like that 4chan-reaction-thingie... you what Im talking bout...

aah gaijin4koma i think its called or something (fuck moon)

It is somewhat true, but it is wildly exaggerated.

>>2596726
>I've noticed that in almost every school, filipinos are the popular kids, including mine. I don't exactly know why.

I've noticed that too! I don't know why either, except that they're all really friendly.