"You did bad, here's a bonus"
-American capitalism

"The freemarket is best left alone, except when it wants more money, here's a handout."
-Alan Greenspan's "free"market

>>2372570
Dude that's not capitalism. Capitalism would be to let them fail, so that those who didn't fail win.

Government giving money to corporations (and taking it away from the people) is both corporatism and socialism.

>>2372570
That's corporatism fool, not capitalism. I CANT WAIT TILL FASCISM COMES ALONG LOL

>>2372617
It's not capatalism, america hates capatlist.

>>2372596
No, that's the rules of Parker Brothers' Monopoly game.

Refusing to trade to anyone despite going bankrupt when each owns exactly half of the properties and hold all the money is RETARDED.

>>2372596
>>2372617
Exactly. If America were really capitalist, AIG would be bankrupt by now and the execs would have no jobs, much less bonuses.

/tv/-angsty politics

>>2372570

i'm not really well versed on politics but how the fuck is this allowed to happen? how the FUCK are these companies allowed to spend this money on EXECUTIVE BONUSES?

/tv/ - economics

>>2372669
Because government has ALWAYS wanted more power than its given. When the government bails out all the corporations, they will own part of them, i.e. more power: power over people, power over shareholders, power of what service you get to "choose" to have. The point of the Constitution was to limit government, but only a concerted effort on the part of the citizens can truly keep government in check.

Also >>2372632
Don't get me wrong, when I posted >>2372596 I in no way agree with it; I think it's wrong. Each year, I've always voted for a Congressional representative who supports limiting government.

Lol I don't pay taxes

/u/ - Fascism

>>2372722

i don't think you understand what i meant. i meant how are these companies able to take this money and spend it on executive bonuses instead of what it should be spent on?

American used to be capitalist, but eventually those capitalists who made it decided they would use their new power to slowly erode away capitalism so they wouldn't have any more competition and ensured themselves a spot at the top.

And here we are today.

>>2372731
Because the shareholders don't have any principle; as long as they're making fucktons of money, regardless of what they're doing to get it is right, then who the fuck cares what else?

Citizens who don't care about limited government + a populus declining in moral principle = today's American society

>>2372731
What do you mean? They're taking care of their debts they owe the executives their due, they earned it and they should be paid just like everyone else. What's it matter to you for anyway?

>>2372755

wow. good for them. already rich as fuck and still looking for more.

People who talk about less government, but support corporations abusing government to fuck over Americans make my head hurt. Seriously.

The problem isn't lack of government involvement, or too much government involvement. Its the fact that corporations basically run the government.

And then people are shocked when this shit happens.

>>2372767
>they earned it
no they haven't, that's the point. If they "earned" it they wouldn't need a bailout in the first place.

>>2372788
They did their jobs. They worked all year long and it's not their fault that the government forced them to let poor fucks buy houses. This mess wouldn't be here if those leeches could make their payments on time.

Doesnt matter guys, the american system is collapsing. Give it a couple more months before the riots start. What happened in Greece is going to happen in the US.

>>2372808
However, they also chose to purchase debt that they didn't check into to see if it would be paid back. The fuckuppery is on both the failed homeowners and on the corporate idiots who based their corporate futures on them.

>>2372788

>If they "earned" it they wouldn't need a bailout in the first place.

BINGO!

Its called a corporatocracy you fuckers and capitalism will always lead to it.

>>2372826
Greece has taken the every opportunity to riot for the last twenty years, this isn't anything new with them. It's just a group of left wingers who want to riot and will use any excuse to do so.

I'm waiting for a company to buy america from the government. I might even die of split side.

>>2372838
That's not true at all. If government and corporations (or other business entities) stay divorced, then that won't happen. But as soon as government picks favorites with its laws... BANG! Corporatism

Expect fun riots, kiddies, Chrysler just closed down all of their plants.

>>2372596
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>>2372596
>>2372596
>>2372596

This, faggot.
>>2372596
>>2372596

http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=20081217014935732
>Augusta, Georgia: Riots Erupt After Cops Kill 23 year old

Ahem

http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/17/autos/chrysler_shutdown/?postversion=2008121719

>>2372848
On December 17, 2008, Chrysler announced it would close all of its North American plants on December 19 for at least a month.

lawl it's true

>>2372847
The entire capitalist system is based on holding the elite in higher esteem to carry out governmental functions. Where do the elite come from?
Corporations

>>2372858
In other words, Detroit's about to get a whole lot warmer this winter.

>>2372859
Dude, that's still corporatism.
Capitalism is based off of a free market competitive model: If people want something done, and you want to make money, you do it at whatever price you want. If people don't want to pay that, they can do it themselves, or somebody else can offer to do it for less than you want. That's the ultimate idea.

If your founding fathers had lived in a world with multi-national corporations you can bet they'd have included limiting their power to your constitution. Limiting government or limiting corporations by themselves isn't going to cut it. Small government would leave us run by a college of multi-nationals.

>>2372885

Fine, abandon the city and leave it for the niggers.

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>>2372852
Fuck

Well, it's rather brutal here. Right now we are advising all our clients to put everything they've got into canned food and shotguns.

WE ARE SO FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED!!!!!!!

Americas been practicing Socialism for the Rich since the 30s, however since the 70s they've decided they didn't need to share with the rest of the population.

I feel stupid because I don't know jack shit about economics, but this thread has been enlightening.

>>2372996
sure is /tv/, eh?

Gonna need a source for the claim in the OP. I don't doubt it happened, but I need to see an article or something.

>>2372996
>Socialism for the Rich since the 30s
Is that supposed to be witty... because its not.

In a way, I feel sorry for everyone who works for auto dealerships. Except for mechanics and owners, all their salesmen are paid largely by commission, no car sales, no commission.

>>2373014
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aSddITtGNtqY&refer=home

>>2373048
Yeah I know someone who bought a car recently. They'll suck your dick to sell a car.

isn't capitalism's founding principal something like the companies wouldn't go under if they were selling a quality product and not fucking around with the money? so if they're fucking around with the money WHILE lowering quality, why are we giving them enough money to sustain exactly that?

>>2373035
The wittiness is greatly overshadowed by its intrinsic truth

>>2373071
No. See:
>>2372886

Old news is OLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDD.

My uncle works for Ford.

>>2373143
Enjoy supporting him.

>>2372961
in after.