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    1.99 MB Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:09:56 No.2085420  
    So my mother and father work full time and they bring in around $250,000 a year together. My mother is a nurse practicioner and my father is a middle school principal. The place my mom works is a federally funded clinic and she sees patients who are extremely poor and recieve medical care at a very very low price thanks to the federal government. My dad, being a principal, and a teacher for 25 years prior to that, has always worked in the public school system. Yet because both work full time and make around $250,000, their taxes will increase because of Obama and his tax plan. So how is this fair? Both of them are public servants. Why should they be taxed more? They shouldn't.


    tl;dr: obama indiscriminately taxes my parents
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:12:28 No.2085438
    Somebody has to pay for the 10 trillion dollar debt. May as well be your hardworking family.
    Such is a fee of living in America
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:13:36 No.2085446
    they get all their money from the government and you have the audacity to complain about their taxes to the government?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:14:29 No.2085456
    Because they can afford it you whiner. Doesn't helping this country mean anything to you and your family?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:14:58 No.2085459
    it ain't. hahahahahahahahahahaahah suck on it richfag
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:15:14 No.2085460
    I thought that when it were a pairing making $250.000, they didn't count. They'd have to make $450.000 to get taxed? Maybe I am misremembering. I don't care, anyway. Fuck your rich parents.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:15:49 No.2085464
    Complain about it in 2010 when it actually goes into effect.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:17:21 No.2085482
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    I make under 25K a year. Why should I cry silly tears for couples who earn 10x more than I do? BAWWWW rich people, their kids have to drive Toyotas instead of BMW's while I eat ramen.

    tl;dr if you and your precious snookums can't live on less than 250K a year, suck it up and find a way
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:18:07 No.2085487
    Your family doesn't make that much. Nurse practitioners make decent money, as do middle school principals, but I really doubt your family is grossing over 150k.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:18:15 No.2085491
    stfu richfaggot
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:18:50 No.2085494
    how does your dad make so much being a principal? or is it just the teachers who dont get shit for pay?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:19:18 No.2085497
    Man, how the heck can a nurse and a teacher earn that kinda moolah?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:19:26 No.2085498
    $250,000 a year is a lot of money. A lot of people live on less, and your parents can live on less. Somebody has to pay taxes, and the ones with the most should pay the most, because they can afford to pay more.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:19:29 No.2085499
    >>2085446
    umm...well then who should complain? They seem like the perfect example of people who are doing something for 'the common good' and who will be punished for it. It's not like they started out making anywhere close to the amount the make now.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:19:43 No.2085503
    Those jobs do not make $250.000 a year. No way no how.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:19:59 No.2085508
    ROFL

    It's funny watching the American media turn the middle class against the lower class whilst the ultra rich steal billions from your countries coffers. Earning $250k a year does not make you rich, it makes you less-poor.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:20:17 No.2085510
    >>2085420

    They'll get taxed the higher rate on the money they earn over $250,000.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:20:27 No.2085512
    >>2085497
    by working for 30 years and progressively getting hired at better places.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:21:13 No.2085520
    >>2085498
    That. I make about 34K and do just fine on it. If I was married I'd make probably about double that, or say 70K tops, and would be able to live like a relative king. Plus I'm patriotic and wouldn't mind paying more on just that, much less 250K.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:21:55 No.2085526
    >>2085494
    >>2085497
    He's lying. He used nurse and principle as examples of hard working average Americans into a story to try and push a conservative agenda.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:21:56 No.2085527
    >>2085510
    well if it's like that, then it isn't as bad as i thought, but still the idea of the whole thing is distasteful.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:22:25 No.2085531
    >>2085512

    Bullshit. My parents are educators and I'm a med student. Even with 30 years experience, there's no way a nurse and a principal clear more than 150k/year.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:24:01 No.2085550
    Obama isn't making new taxes, he's eliminating the tax cuts for the rich that Bush introduced.

    Anyway, what would you suggest would be more fair?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:24:41 No.2085552
    >>2085550
    No income tax would be quite fair.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:25:44 No.2085560
    The median expected salary for a typical Principal in the United States is $73,536. The 75th percentile is 89k. That's including private schools.

    OP is just another wingnut faggot showing just once again how out of touch they are.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:26:35 No.2085564
    >>2085527

    Yeah, I hear you..
    It's just that, they'll still live a good life even with the slightly higher taxes they have to pay. That's how I see it.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:26:41 No.2085565
    >>2085552
    So who pays to make the government work? All that money companies like Haliburton are looting from our collective coffers has to come from somewhere.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:26:45 No.2085566
    >>2085560
    Important to read this, children. The OP is a lying conservative troll, probably cath or republicunt or mr marketeer or one of those scumbags.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:26:51 No.2085567
    >>2085527
    >>2085531

    I'm not lying. We live in New Jersey, so the cost of living is rather high and that accounts for the higher salaries somewhat.

    My dad voted for Obama, simply because he's in love with that faggot Biden for some unkown reason.

    Mom voted for McCain.

    Don't try to put us into your simple minded categories fed to you by both the right and left. Things are never as simple as the TV tells you.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:27:07 No.2085568
    >>2085552
    Enjoy your no bridges.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:28:22 No.2085576
    Your parents should get divorced, that way their taxes will go down. Single people making under 200k wont have their taxes raised.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:28:27 No.2085578
    Because you're in a huge debt thanks to the republicans and someone needs to get the economy going. Sorry brah.
    >> I o I !!aYhE2ZFN7Ps 11/10/08(Mon)14:29:35 No.2085586
    Hahahahahah fucking pawnd

    Enjoy working in McDonalds Conservativefag
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:30:20 No.2085592
    Even though the OP is an obvious troll, I can't even begin to comprehend the logic behind the "being punished" argument. Do you still take home several times more than those being taxed less? Then how the fuck are you being punished!?!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:30:29 No.2085594
    >>2085567
    Shut the fuck up, conservative faggot. Just abandon your troll thread and go back to plus4chan's /n/
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:30:41 No.2085596
    WAHHHHH THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS MY ABILITY TO BE AN UPPER CLASS SNOB BUT I DON'T WANNA PAY FOR IT TO MAINTAIN IT!
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:34:45 No.2085623
    Sigh.
    Your parents will be paying about $7500 more in taxes.
    Shut your whining. Your parents make a lot more than most people on the planet.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:36:52 No.2085640
    BAWWWWW NO MORE BUSH BREAKS FOR ME AND MY DEAR OLD FOLKS
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:37:19 No.2085644
    OP here faggots:

    I'm not trolling....well....maybe I am a bit. But I can see why Obama won, America is full of empty headed morons like yourselves. Anyway, I'm still rich when the day is done, even when Obamas taxes kick in.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:39:42 No.2085657
    >>2085644
    We're stupid because we like having roads and bridges and schools and medicine.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:41:42 No.2085664
    >>2085420

    Because your parents make enough money that we don't give a fuck about them.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:43:14 No.2085673
    fuckkkkkk alllALLL ALLL of you idiots fukkkkeenn rage
    >> RepublicuntLobbyist !H5nbtYBA4A 11/10/08(Mon)14:47:03 No.2085696
    ITT: Greedy leftists that are crying about their current situations because of their terrible decisions, and are jealous of OP's parents who are well-established.

    Hypocrisy at it's best.
    Class envy, lolz.

    >>2085568
    >>2085565
    >>2085550
    Fair?
    How about the fair tax?
    Guess you morons don't know much about that.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:48:50 No.2085708
    Very well played, troll.

    8/10

    Gentleman, learn from this man.
    >> RepublicuntLobbyist !H5nbtYBA4A 11/10/08(Mon)14:51:05 No.2085723
    >>2085708
    How is OP a troll?
    Seriously, /r9k/'s logic fails before my eyes at epic levels sometimes.

    Y'all are fucking dumb sometimes, seriously.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:51:51 No.2085726
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    tldr
    >Why should "public servants" be taxed?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:52:07 No.2085728
    >>2085723
    Go play SimCity. Reduce all taxes to 0. Watch city crumble.
    >> RepublicuntLobbyist !H5nbtYBA4A 11/10/08(Mon)14:55:08 No.2085756
    >>2085728
    What are you talking about?
    OP's concern was that his parents were going to get a tax increase, in due to "helping better society," when they already do that by being public servants...

    I don't think he said anything about not paying taxes.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:55:10 No.2085757
    Make less than $250K, how fucking hard was that to solve?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:58:33 No.2085779
    Rich people pay more taxes because a flat tax would constrict everyone else. While no taxes for everybody would be ideal, necessity demands a graduated tax curve.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:58:33 No.2085780
    I think I heard this exact same spiel (in almost the exact same words) when Joe the Plumber asked Obama the same goddam thing. Ask your congressman if its fair, don't ask us. Sorry. Too many of your friends voted for the guy. You lost, and now you're just going to have to suck it up.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)14:58:55 No.2085782
    You're richer than 99% of the world population, stop whining.
    >> RepublicuntLobbyist !H5nbtYBA4A 11/10/08(Mon)15:00:34 No.2085791
    >>2085728
    Also, if you want a Sim City example...
    Have a decent surplus budget in your city.
    Make sure you have a fair amount of money in the bank.
    Restructure a shitload of new areas of commercial/housing/industry, then drop taxes to say, 2%.

    Watch your budget deficit turn into a balanced budget.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:01:40 No.2085794
    well americans you fucked up by voting for a nigger
    >> RepublicuntLobbyist !H5nbtYBA4A 11/10/08(Mon)15:02:57 No.2085808
    >>2085779
    That's true and false at the same time.

    Taxes don't need to be so ridiculously skewed as they are now, the FairTax would work extremely well.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:05:42 No.2085829
    >>2085808
    urrite, lets let the rich 1% buy more yachts while the people get tax raises struggle to pay for gas, rent, and feed their families.

    FAIRTAX
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:06:13 No.2085835
    american income tax is stratified

    you only get taxed at the $250k rate for the money that you earn above $250k

    for example if somebody makes $275k a year. they will get taxed at the lower rate for $250k of their money. and they will get taxed at the higher rate for only $25k of their money.

    it's not a big deal.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:09:29 No.2085854
    Strange, you claim your father is a principal and teacher, yet your parents have failed you when it comes to your education. The progressive tax system isn't anything new, it's been the backbone of this country since the introduction of the federal income tax. So the question of whether some should be taxed more and others less is long since settled.

    The question now is who, who belongs in what bracket and at what rate should that bracket be taxed. Understand the difference here: (a) your parents make an unusually large amount of money compared to the rest of the country, (b) a slight and it is slight increase on their taxes means a slight sacrifice of some luxury at worse - a few less lattes and (c) increasing rather than reducing the taxes of those making considerably less greatly increases their ability to provide for their children, increasing the likelihood of higher education and improving the nation's competitiveness with the world, as well as reducing the "need to live" mentality that leads to crime.

    The point is, fairness argument is an awful trick and you're falling for it, this is a pro national security, pro family, pro law and order matter. This is the last service your country asks of your parents and downright cheap compared to the alternative. (Dying children, higher crime, revolution.)
    >> RepublicuntLobbyist !H5nbtYBA4A 11/10/08(Mon)15:09:33 No.2085855
    >>2085829
    What are you talking about?

    The more yachts the rich people purchase, the more total revenue the government will receive under the FairTax.

    The FairTax is also a slightly progressive system, giving relief to people below a certain income level, I believe it's $250,000.
    I think you're thinking of the flat tax, moron, the FairTax is not the flat tax.

    Read up:
    www.fairtax.org
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:09:52 No.2085857
    So with your parents making a combined $250k a year, despite the fact that they need to make 450k a year combined to clear the repealed Bush Cuts, will only have $7500 less/year.

    Whoop-de-friggin-do. Where is that $7500 going to be saves? How about 1 less family vacation per year, or maybe you get a Chevy Cobalt instead of that VW Jetta as your first car. A $7500 increase is way fucking better than having your parents come under the AMT, which would happen under Bush's current tax plan.

    Obama is going tie the AMT to inflation as it always shouls have been. Maybe your parents could actually educate themselves and realize that falling under the AMT is way more expensive than a 3% rise under normal taxation laws.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:10:02 No.2085860
    Obamafags commonly use the following expression to justify their socialist economic plan:

    "BECAUSE YOU CAN AFFORD IT"

    What they really mean to say is:

    "BECAUSE WE WANT YOUR MONEY, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU GOT YOUR MONEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT WE AS POOR PEOPLE DESERVE IT. VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!! BRING OUT KING LOUIS XVI, THE GUILLOTINE IS READY!!! SHARPEN THE BLADE, BRING OUT THE BASKET, THE HOUR OF OUR REVOLUTION IS AT HAND!! THAT'S IT, FIT HIM IN THERE, DON'T MIND THE STRUGGLING, MEN!

    CUT THE ROPE!!!

    Obama '08.
    Fuck you for being richer than me. All humans deserve the same amount of money.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:11:31 No.2085872
    ITT people who gawk at the richfags until they become one themselves.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:11:32 No.2085873
    >>2085860
    hey brah, thats a cool story
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:11:53 No.2085875
    ITT - If you have a barrel of apples and all of your friends have single baskets of apples, who should share more apples?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:12:34 No.2085879
    >>2085872
    ITT: People who HATE the richfags and want to take their money and remove the incentive to ever make anything over $250,000.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:13:17 No.2085882
    Basically, Obama will return taxes on your parents to where they were during the 90s. It isn't a big deal compared to all the other issues on the table.

    More information:
    http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/15/smallbusiness/small_biz_taxes_factcheck.smb/index.htm

    http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10312932&ch=4226716&src=news

    http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/perverted-idea-fairness
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:13:51 No.2085888
    God I love Obama owning the rich kids.
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:14:10 No.2085892
    >>2085875
    What if I didn't want to share my apples. Should the gov't FORCE me to share?
    >> Anonymous 11/10/08(Mon)15:14:14 No.2085894
    >>2085879
    Wrong. An increase of 2% on the tax rate for that income bracket does not reduce the incentive to earn more.

    So fuck off.


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