uncanny valley

>>20213604

You don't know what that means.

You forgot
>Have a fucking video game have better looking motion capture than your films.

>>20213604
>Implying Tintin wasn't well and truly out of the uncanny valley

>>20213620
Why not?

motion capture is not animation. Tintin looked creepy as fuck

Mars Needs Moms will be remembered as the Heaven's Gate of the new millennium.

Domestic Total Gross: $21,392,758
Distributor: Buena Vista Release Date: March 11, 2011
Genre: Animation Runtime: 1 hrs. 28 min.
MPAA Rating: PG Production Budget: $150 million

>>20213667
I remember seeing the trailer for this during some movie and laughing at how completely uninteresting it looked,

>>20213667
Delgo all up in this bitch, made less than a 40th of it's 40 million dollar budget.

>>20213647

The uncanny valley is when something acts almost completely human but something is slightly off. Supposedly it will make people disgusted. It hasn't even happened ever and is just an idea.

Tin Tin definitely does not fit into the uncanny valley.

>>20213667

I still don't know how you spend that much on animation. An animation studio doing hours in maya and 3ds max does not cost $150 million. The animation for that movie wasn't even that good either.

In the movie business, sometimes a flop is just a flop. Then there are misses so disastrous that they send signals to broad swaths of Hollywood. “Mars Needs Moms” is shaping up as the second type.

Walt Disney Studios spent an estimated $175 million to make and market “Mars Needs Moms,” which sold $6.9 million in tickets at North American theaters in its opening weekend. That grim result puts the 3-D animated adventure on track to become one of the biggest box-office bombs in movie history, on par with such washouts as “The Adventures of Pluto Nash,” “Cutthroat Island” and “The Alamo.”

“Scary” is how Chuck Viane, president of distribution for Walt Disney Studios, described the audience rejection of the film. “Was it the idea? The execution? The timing? There are a lot of excuses being floated.”

The financial impact on Disney’s studio will be severe. The company has already taken a write-down of about $100 million related to the film and the closing of ImageMovers Digital, a motion-capture animation division run by Robert Zemeckis, who helped produce “Mars Needs Moms.”

Tens of millions more in losses are expected, pending worldwide box-office results. The film opened in 14 overseas territories, representing 25 percent of the international market, and attracted $2.1 million.

Mr. Zemeckis, whose directing credits include seminal hits like “Back to the Future” and “Forrest Gump,” was unavailable to comment on Monday

I thought the movie looked great. But the characters were as flat as their comic counterparts. They were just so one sided and uninteresting. Tintin was a terrible lead character too.

Wait, which is one of the biggest most expensive flops?

and I didn't think Beowulf and ACC looked bad at all

>>20213684
The uncanny valley is a fact that states the closer something gets to appearing human without actually being human, the more noticeable the differences between it and an actual human are.

Every zemeckis mocap movie is irrefutable proof of this.

zemeckis must've been blind in thinking mars needs moms was gonna be a success

gawd that horrifying motion cap

>>20213684
>It hasn't even happened ever and is just an idea.

Polar Express.

>>20213742
not only. UV makes you feel unconfortable or even disgusted

I dont believe that any of you really feels unconfortable from watching Tintin

>>20213742
>The uncanny valley is a fact that states the closer something gets to appearing human without actually being human, the more noticeable the differences between it and an actual human are.

This is wrong.

>>20213770
I think you are over doing how disturbed or disgusted people are supposed to feel. No one is supposed to be horrified, just generally think, "Eh, weird. That looks weird." And be distracted by the weirdness. When you watch these motion capture psuedo realistic CGI movies you get distracted by the look of the people in it and start picking out where they look realistic and where they don't.

tl;dr you are putting too much weight into "uncomfortable" "disturbed" and every other word used to discribe the uncanny valley feeling

OP here
>Lucas
UGH, I meant Jackson. Wtf?

>>20213679
>Delgo all up in this bitch, made less than a 40th of it's 40 million dollar budget.

But Mars Needs Moms had a 150 M budget. It got 20 million for a 130 M loss.

I hated the way the characters in this movie looked and I never managed to get used to it. I wish they had just went for a more cartoonish look.

It really reminded me of those realistic cartoon pictures.

can anyone post some images from the MNM so I can see just how weird/shitty it looked? A google search would probably just turn up posters

>>20213898
YEah, cel shading would've been sweet.

>>20213913

>>20213684
Tin Tin fits perfectly in the uncanny valley. It's very very very unnatural looking, bothers me a lot.

>>20213946
shit it's michael cera

all my NOPE
it's worse when you see them move

>>20213997
I hated them in the movie, they weren't funny at all.

>>20213997
>Implying they didn't look glorious
>>20214021
>Implying they weren't hilarious

>>20214041
That looks so creepy.

>>20214041
That is fucking terrible, I can see why they don't show any of the characters' faces in the poster.

>>20214041
>>20214041

why does anything relating to this film make me laugh so hard

what was zemeckis smoking

>>20214041

>dirty hippie alien

Because I fucking love those guys on earth right?

>>20214041
>thinking anyone would give either of the top ones to their mother on mother's day

christ almighty

>>20214041
The one on the top left is literally the least endearing character design I have ever seen.

This can't be real surely?

>>20214083

I agree. He's a dirty hippie alien. Just look at him. You can just imagine what he smells like. Worse, I think they used a real human eyes and lips and distorted them in photoshop.

>>20213997
They were fine.

It looks like reality, but ruined with cartoonish distortions.

And it looks like a cartoon, but with horrible horrible skin.

Remember this picture?

Exactly.

>>20214149
>Implying Tintin had those problems

>>20214155
I'm not implying, I'm saying it.

It is certainly better than most, but it's very dissapointing to see them choose to do it this way instead of just 2D animation or full live-action. Damn it, it would be great to see a full live-action movie of this.

>>20214174
Or they could have pulled it back to "The Incredibles" level 3D.

>>20214174
If they had done CG animation with the cartoony-ness of The Incredibles or Tangled it would have been a lot better. WHY people think making them freaky semi realistic monsters is a good idea I can't understand.

>>20214204
>>20214230
Incredbiles-mind

>>20213679
Delgo flopped because no one knew about it.

tintin and mars needs moms flopped because no one wanted to see them.

A christmas carol did okay because it was an honest to god christmas movie in theaters on christmas.

>>20214273
>tintin
>flopped

Budget $135 million[3]
Box office $279,332,000[4]

Huge fucking flop. How will the study ever recover?

>>20214230 people
Its really just zemeckis.

>>20214284 Domestic Total as of Dec. 30, 2011: $40,232,000

>>20214284
Foreign markets have more costs associated with them than domestic markets. So just because something grosses its budget worldwide, doesn't mean its even close to netting a single cent.

Or they could've fucking animated it with conventional style, if not technique, instead of making everything a polygonal blob as they chase the self-important tech demo that started in Jurassic Park up their own assholes

I don't care what none of yall say, Beowulf was a really good film and made great use of the technology. One of Zemeckis most inspired films.

why does Spielberg keep using this creepy motion capture shit oh yeah cuz he's a senile old jew who hasn't made a good movie since the 90s

>>20214359
>2012
>implying even 10% of jurassic park was CGI
jesus fire lo, fail less please?

>>20214379
its the first time, idiot
god you people are clueless
when you have all the greatest minds in hollywood (spielberg, fincher, cameron, jackson, etc) showing interest in the possibilities offered by the technology, because they obviously see something in it that you plebs dont, maybe its time to pay attention instead of bitching about insignificant shit

>>20214373 I don't care what none of yall say
That means you care what everyone says.

>>20214430
All they see is the promise of more control over each shot and less reliance on people. Meaning their main interest in the technology is to make hollywood an even smaller community.

>>20214389
They started this in JP. They've been trying harder and harder to do it bigger and better with every film like they're obsessed with getting it "right". Not because it would be artistic, but just to prove that they could.

Just as in the story of Jurassic Park, they never stopped to think whether or not they should.

>>20214341
but the movie made more than 2x its budget. Surely the cost of foreign distribution isn't double that of domestic, so it still has to have made a pretty significant profit by now

>>20214518
Nope. Basically if a movie doesn't gross its budget domestically, it'll never make any money.