>It takes a great deal of courage to play the greatest hero of the twentieth century with honesty and not an ounce of parody.

Fixed that for you, OP.

ITT: morons who feel more secure calling Hitler a monster

>>10666907
cool edginess, bro

>>10666907
I agree.

>>10666921
>>10666907

Derp.

One of the reasons this movie is so great is that it can be embraced by neo-nazis and anti-nazis pretty equally

Don't bother trying to have a conversation about this movie on 4Chan, OP. Everyone's too busy being cool and edgy.

>>10666946
>Oy Vey these damn Nazis!

HITLER WAS A COWARD

HIDING IN AN UNDERGROUND BUNKER LIKE A RAT, LIKE VERMIN, SHOT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD LIKE A PUSSY

>Good people really can be caught unawares by incalculable evil and should not be judged because of it.

That was most definitely NOT the message of the movie. It is a german one after all.

>>10666950

Ummm...what?

Hitler was shown to be exactly what he was. A madman that never knew what the fuck he was doing, and whose mental state was constantly deteriorating.

>>10666921
wut?

secure about what? this is an anonymous image board.

what you think the holocaust police are watching the internet to see if anyone slips up and denies it?

fuck.

this website is littered with people who use casual racism as noun verb and conjunctive.

you are so secure in your own non-facism because you are ok with saying hitler was pretty swell?

your post has made me so confused.

>>10666969

Pretty sure it was, since the movie's main character was an unwitting secretary who remained sympathizable and human despite the fact that she was working for a slavering madman. She had no idea about the holocaust, nor the great deal of suffering that Hitler was bringing to the world.

>>10666974
It was the drugs. His deteriorating health forced him to take a lot of medication. Kind of sad, really.

>>10666974

>>Hitler was shown to be exactly what he was. A madman that never knew what the fuck he was doing, and whose mental state was constantly deteriorating.

Neo-Nazis would see him as a tragic hero. Everyone else would see him as a dick and a brutal idiot.

For instance, he could have easily ended the war when all hope was lost. He could have saved thousands, and thousands of lives. Instead he let the war go on and killed himself.

>>10666907
Are you trolling, or just ignorant?

How the fuck was he a hero?

>>10667074
buh

>>10667074

I choose to believe that the neo-nazis and the holocaust deniers on 4chan are just trolls.

It makes me sleep easier at night.

>>10666974
Actually, I think you're selling the movie short. I thought Bruno Ganz did a superb job portraying Hitler as a very charismatic individual.

That's why he managed to get such devotion from his followers.

That he also was an incompetent, batshit insane leader who caused untold suffering as much as to his enemies (real and imagined) as to his own people is part of the greater tragedy.

>>10667074
i thought everyone knew hitler was an hero

All the hatred agains Hitler is a little excessive. He never killed anyone personally. I figure the sick fucks you hear about on the news that rape, strangle and dismember children are worse.

>>10667166

That's very true. Ganz showed that, before Berlin, Hitler actually did have the country in his thrall, and that he actually was a very powerful individual. It's debatable if he ever was a competent leader, or if he ever really knew what he was doing in terms of warfare.

As the tide was turning on the war, though, his already tenuous grasp on reality and sanity began to slip, but he always did have the sympathies of his most diehard followers.

The scene where Goebbels and his wife killed their children and then themselves because they knew the Third Reich would never come and that a world without it wasn't one that they wanted to live in was...I don't even know. I can't even come close to describing that scene with mere words.

one thing i can say about nazi is them niggas had style

>>10667235

>if he ever really knew what he was doing in terms of warfare

LRN2HISTORY

He was the ONLY one who knew what he was doing at the beginning. No one else would have had the balls to attack through the Ardennes, reoccupy the Rhineland, invade USSR, etc. etc.

>>10667269

Just because you have balls doesn't necessarily mean that you know what you're doing. It's also debatable if it was Hitler, or his generals who actually ran such a strong campaign for such a long time.

And besides, anyone who attacks Russia and thinks they're going to win is just asking to be utterly decimated. A land campaign against the largest country currently existing is the definition of foolish.

>DERP LETS INVADE RUSSIA IN WINTER
>NOT LIKE ANYONES TRIED IT BEFORE AND FAILED
GG HITLOR, U DUM

>>greatest monster of the twentieth century

Mr. Stalin would like to have a word with you.
Also Mr. Zedong is feeling a bit neglected.

>>10667331

POL POT
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>>10667328

Though, to be fair to Napoleon and Hitler, there's never a good time to attack Russia, simply for the scale of the nation and its sheer population. Even if you do have superior numbers, which is laughable, and technology, you're asking for an incredibly long war in which they would just ground you down until you no longer want to fight anymore.

ITT: SHEEP BRAINWASHED INTO BELIEVING THE 3RD REICH LOST THE SECOND WORLD WAR

ha ha ha keep drinking the kool-aid people

you guys are forgetting someone

>>10667355
>>10667331

None of those mentioned attempted to take over the world.

>>10667365
The Mongols had little trouble taking Russia.

>>10667400

Neither did Hitler. He only wanted GrosDeutchland.

>>10667365
THEY BOTH GOT CLOSE

NAPOLEON WAS SO CLOSE THE RUSSIANS BURNED THEIR OWN CAPITAL CITY TO THE GROUND JUST TO DENY HIM FOOD AND SHELTER

RUSSIA IS BADASS, THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK

>>10667462

You gotta admire the determination of the Russians. If they can't have it for themselves, no one will.

>>10667417

Pardon, I meant to say modern Russia, as in the last two hundred years. The Mongols were also an incredibly large, incredibly well trained horde of savages. At their best, fighting against the Mongols was just as incomprehensible as building as fighting off locusts.

Hitler served four years on the western front of WW1 as a private.

He received two Iron Crosses (the highest medal in the German Army) for his heroic service.

Yet he was never promoted, due to "fehlende Führerqualitäten" (lack of leader (Führer) abilities/qualities).

>>10667540

ballsy motherfucker ran messages through the trenches and got gassed with mustard gas

>>10667540
Hitler was a corporal.

>>10667563

Gefreiter == Private First Class
Gefreiter =/= Corporal

>>10667540

Hitler was actually chosen to infiltrate right-wing organizations in post-war Bavaria BECAUSE of his leadership abilities.

Now you know.

HITLER WAS A BUTTHURT LITTLE FAGGOT

ARYAN RACE LOL

>>10667593

He was chosen to infiltrate new political parties to find out whether or not they were Communist. Not to lead them.

Read his book!

>>10667235

>>The scene where Goebbels and his wife killed their children

This whole scene was captivating and yet grossly horrifying

In fact, I think that describes the entire movie rather well. A definite must-see, for sure.

I thought it was a really pretentious, 'made-for-ignorant-masses' -kind of movie.

>>10667631
>>10667631
i hear you, i feel the same way about atzlan

>>10667631
>Family Guy humor

Der juden

Fact: Goebbels was 5-foot-four, weighed only one-hundred pounds, and did not lose his virginity until he was 33 according to his own (frustrated) accounts in his diary

THE MORE YOU KNOW

i actually kinda liked himmler in this

Alexandra Maria Lara was great as Junge in my opinion.

>>10667695

>>Goebbels was 5-foot-four, weighed only one-hundred pounds

Is it bad that I d'aaaaawed?

>>10667695

No wonder he looked like he was suffering from the late stages of AIDS in Downfall.

>>10667269

>>He was the ONLY one who knew what he was doing at the beginning. No one else would have had the balls to attack through the Ardennes, reoccupy the Rhineland, invade USSR, etc. etc.

Was Hitler really a military genius who personally creating all these things? I thought it was his military commanders who were doing all that.

And I keep hearing that a lot of the militay's problems later on was due to Hitler taking too direct a command. The USSR actually did better when Stalin took less direct command.

>>10667706

The East has a really weird fascination with Hitler and Nazism. It's...disconcerting to say the least.

>>10667733

>>Is it bad that I d'aaaaawed?

Then picture him killing his adorable children.

>>10667715

yum