I do.

yes

Ex-Treme?

I do

/tv/ doesn't

But fuck last weeks episode.

didn't Creighton kill himself? He was my favorite goddam character.

Probably, when I find time to watch it.

is the first season over yet? Figured I'd wait to marathon it.

>>10256307
season finale is tomorrow night.

John Goodman's daughter is so fucking cute.

I hope he just walked around to the other side of the boat or something.

Forcing us to watch a season of Fat John Goodman and then killing him off right as he loses 100 pounds is bullshit.

>>10256307
1 more episode. I like it a lot more than I thought I would and it really grew on me. I love the music.

Last 2 episodes have sort of made me less interested.

It's just people talking and living life after a tragedy...I mean that's it really. It's the story of how people had to recover after the hurricane. I hate to say it, but there isn't enough conflict in the show. And now they fucking killed off one of the more interesting characters. ugh lame.

He's not dead! He can't be dead. ;___;

I'm waiting for Creighton's daughter's subplot next season.

ratings for this show must be abysmal.

>>10256677
Ratings don't mean shit on HBO. And it's already been picked up for a second season.

I do but /tv/ doesnt

>>10256698
say that to Deadwood.

>>10256409
He probaby lost it because his time on the show was over. If anything, he probably gained weight for the show, since the guy he was based on died from a heart attack.

I like the show, but I think I would like it better if Davis killed himself too.

Best show on tv

>>10256854
Davis is fucking awesome
If there is a character you don't like on that show, you suck at watching tv

>>10256560
The story does seem to meander a bit, and I can't say that I'm very attached to many of the characters.

>>10256905
Here's the deal:
You fuckers need to watch Azumanga or Lucky Star or some shit until you fucking love it. Once you see the value of slice of life anime, Treme is the greatest show in history.

Creighton has to be alive.If John Goodman's fat ass had jumped in the river, there would've been a massive splash.

no way hes dead, even if he tried to kill himself

i thought it was well done how him being happy and enjoying life was more worrying than being all depressed and binge drinking

Annie is fucking cumbuckets hot

Davis and Antoine are probably my fave characters

I don't get how he killed himself though.

The boat was not high off the water. And just falling into the water...good luck staying underwater without going up and thrashing around.

Zzzzzzz

>>10257091
Annie is kind of fugly. Sofia is the crazy sex.
Janette is also extremely hittable.

Antoine is cool as fuck, but I like Albert Lambreaux. I just fucking loved Lester Freamon, that's probably why.

love it. 2 episodes behind though because I was switching ISPs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M1Iagf3GSs

god tier opening

It's a little preachy at times, but overall I'd say it's one of my favorite shows. Annie can play my fiddle any time.

When I watch this show, I realize that I am a piece of shit individual who doesn't have a soul. I wish I were a character on Treme.

>>10257091
annie is s delicious twinkie

>>10256962
I'm a Treme fan.

Anime has no value.

>If there is a character you don't like on that show, you suck at watching tv

Sonny

>>10257429
I wasn't saying that either of those were good (but Berserk and Juuni Kokki are among the best pieces of art I have ever seen, especially the latter). I just think people need to get an appreciation for a person's life, simplistic and uninteresting as any individual's life may be. Once you get that, Treme is stellar.

>>10257424
the actress is half-Korean, half-Italian

>>10257094

he's a big fat guy

he could only manage to stay afloat for a few minutes

or he got swept into the prop lol

>>10257522
white/asian

twinkie

I hate Davis, too. But only because I know I won't look that good when I'm fortysomething.

Boring show is boring. I'm giving up on it.

But hey, if it picks up in a couple seasons, let me know /tv/ and I'll pick it up on DVD.

>>10257482
I like sonny.

You need to listen to more John Lennon, fool.

"I didn't mean to hurt you. I'm sorry that I made you cry. I didn't want to hurt you; I'm just a jealous guy"

There is art there too. It is relatable; don't refuse to relate. You close yourself off that way

>>10257615

I like this asshole character. He's just like this asshole from the past!

>Fucking is one thing but music is personal.

I'm paraphrasing but for some reason that line hit me.

Sonny is a cock sucker. I hope he's killed by the ensuing tidal wave caused by Creighton jumping into the water.

>>10257615
Sonny's a jerk

there isn't anything noble he's done thus far

At first I was like

>>10257682
He is just like the asshole in your mind.
He is like me, if I am that way. And like you, I would bet. To call him "asshole" and then write him off as that is to close yourself off and refuse to relate.

But then I was like

Treme is good but it ain't The Wire, that's for sure.

>>10257729
>there isn't anything noble he's done thus far
Not true. He convinced the bouncer dude to get the fuck out of Texas and gave him a place to stay, for a few days at least.

>>10257737
>To call him "asshole" and then write him off as that is to close yourself off and refuse to relate

yeah, it's not like certain people have principle, and wouldn't have done some of the asshole things Sonny has done/does

>>10257791
Yeah but then he goes and fucking kicks the guy out for being more noble than him.

>>10257737

What is this, some moral relativism bullshit?

Do cocaine, cheat on your girlfriend, hit your girlfriend, ruin your girlfriend's potential for a great music career while indulging your own terrible play, get pissed when she moves out. What a good guy.

>>10257755
>>10257736

He obviously teleported

>>10257787
>Treme is good but it ain't The Wire, that's for sure.
It's a good thing they went with the name "Treme" instead "The Wire", then. That could cause a lot of confusion.

>>10257812
It actually isn't like that. It might be like, none of you have ever had a girlfriend - that I could believe. The idea that you guys aren't assholes is beyond laughable

>>10257787
maybe, maybe not
did any of us know The Wire was The Wire after only its first season?

one thing this show has that The Wire doesn't is a real joy of people

in The Wire, Dave Simon is being far more appropriately cynical about human nature, but here, allowing certain characters like Sonny to exist shows that--while he may not be any more compassionate--there's a certain acceptance that such people exist, and that we can't preach or change them, so much accept them for the good they have, but still avoid their faults. Hell, isn't that basic idea what governs how we feel about every character, especially when they transgress?

Fucke yeah toi odo

>>10257867
If we were assholes, we'd have girlfriends.

>>10257822
Yeah, but he still got the dude out of TEXAS. That's an enormously good deed. It might be the greatest act of kindness any character in the show has performed.

>>10257850
I'm not saying he is a good guy. I am saying you aren't either. I'm saying there is truth (and therefore art) in being an asshole.

>>10257893
That is the beta myth.
You don't have to be an asshole. You just can't be a loser.

>>10257855

Your witty observations about a commonly used phrase don't excuse Treme from being far inferior to The Wire.

>>10257910
only to show his more-Treme-than-thou to hide the fact he's also a foreigner to New Orleans

>>10256296
foolish foolhardy fool

>>10257918
Sounds like you're just looking for a way to excuse your shitty behavior. By the way, aren't you a fucking pedo?

>>10257941
Treme has only had most of a single season so far. It's better than the Wire was at this point, IMO

>>10257941
Just out of curiosity, is your opinion of The Wire derived solely on its first season?

/tv/ wont really know treme until it hits dvd/netflix instant queef

>>10256560
welcome to...characterization.
fucking casuals.

>>10257970
I'm am not looking to excuse it, but I am not looking to deny it either. I see elements of Sonny in myself because I am honest with myself. You don't wish to excuse your shittiness, so much as pretend you don't have any. How dishonest can you be?

ITT trolls trolling trolls

Nobody really likes Treme, they convince themselves they like it "for the atmosphere."

>>10257967
>hide the fact he's also a foreigner to New Orleans
What? He told the dude he came all the way from Europe to live in New Orleans, and that it's fucked up the guy couldn't drive six hours to even visit it.

>>10258003
we accept the fact that we aren't perfect, but that doesn't mean we condone Sonny's bullshit like you do

I hope next season focuses on the fishery and its connection to the mob.

>>10258019
yeah, to show his more-Treme-than-thou:

>I live in Texas, but I've never been to New Orleans
>what, you can't even visit New Orleans, I came from fucking EUROPE to get to New Orleans, you fucking causal; get in the fucking car because I'm going to show you what AUTHENTIC New Orleans is like

>>10258022
I don't condone it so much as understand whence it comes.

>>10258040
I for one hope it focuses on Fishery and its connection to Music

>>10258006

This. I wonder how much people actually like this show and how much of it is people convincing themselves they like the show because they think they should (critical acclaim, HBO, creators of The Wire, the majority of /tv/ doesn't like it, etc.)

>>10258057
>understand whence it comes

...which is condoning it:

>guys! it's okay for him to do what he does

>>10258082
How is that condoning it?
You have a really binary view of things, it seems. I just don't think he is the worst guy ever, because if he is, so am I by extension.

>>10258065
Who the fuck is going to watch an hour-long show every week just because they think it makes them look smart or cool?

>>10258065
I like it because it cares about people

it's like a more sprawling, in a way more gritty modern take of stuff Jean Renoir would have liked: society, music, and lots of warmth, with a little despair

Season 1 of the The Wire is far superior. With The Wire you had a sense that something was building. Treme is a bunch of people drinking all day who occasionally take a break to play some music or talk about what a magical place New Orleans is.

>>10258112
Yeah, yeah, yeah! We get it. You're just like Sonny. You're so cool, bro.

>>10258146
I'm not just like him. We are similar in ways, and dissimilar in others.
I get it I get it, you are nothing like sonny!
oh wait, that is kind of retarded.

>>10258114

Everyone in this thread? Just a guess.

>>10258112
>saying it's okay for him to do what he does
>How is that condoning it?

While I like the show, I do feel sort of cheated that every episode has like a five minute musical performance. It's not really my sort of music so it just comes across as padding.

>>10258182
I can understand
I'm not a fan of Nola Jazz either

I just see it as how much these dudes love the city, and how well it's surviving through its music despite all the bullshit

>>10256304
you asshole you better be wrong im not caught up yet.

i like the show a lot, it has kind of grown on me. At first I wasn't sure if I would stick with it, but has the characters have developed I've gotten hooked.

>>10258127

>Treme is a bunch of people drinking all day who occasionally take a break to play some music or talk about what a magical place New Orleans is.

This needs to go on the season 1 DVD box.

Make it happen /tv/.

>>10258174
No, I watch it because I enjoy it. I don't have to impress anybody.

>>10258127
>With The Wire you had a sense that something was building.
"Pay attention to the language itself, the ideas. Don't think in terms of a beginning and an end, because unlike some plot driven entertainments, there is no closure in real life--not really."

Character #1 (Not from New Orleans)- "I was going to do X."
Character #2 (Is from New Orleans)- "X? X? Here in Nawrleans we do Y instead of X."
Character #1- "Oh."

>>10258348
"that's very japanese"

>>10258390
Also, that character is was the nicest guy in history

>>10258199
>I'm not a fan of Nola Jazz either
I am. It's not something I've made a conscious effort to get into, but damn if I don't love hearing it. It's also awesome when there's references to or the music of some of the few musicians I know of, because people consulted for and even making cameos in the show fucking knew these people.

>>10258215

That's too bad, because I'm sitting here, all impressed. You should really learn take advantage of how cool watching Treme makes you.

In all honesty, though, this is the best show on television right now, bar none

>>10258414
The name-dropping and cameos is starting to get old. We get it, David Simon knows about New Orleans. I don't need to see one of the Neville Brothers in every episode.

>>10258537
Yeah, making it authentic totally ruins this show

I haven't been back to New Orleans since Katrina. This show is making me feel bad about that.

>>10258537
>The name-dropping and cameos is starting to get old. We get it, David Simon knows about Baltimore.

I've not seen an episode of this, but do they ever talk about the black people looting during and after?

Or talk about how all the white people left when the warnings went out and all the black people stuck around and were drowned or had to be rescued.

I'm not stormfront or anything, but from what I can gather, they're painting the people of New Orleans as some noble rebels instead of a major part of the problem during Katrina.

Khandi Alexander's accent almost makes the show unwatchable.

>>10258678
You gather about as little as possible.
This show is about the aftermath, nazi.

>>10258678

>>10258678
>a major part of the problem during Katrina
I was under the impression that the primary problem during Katrina was the fucking water.

>>10258669
David Simon knows about Baltimore but he didn't have Cal Ripken Jr in every episode. He's so hell bent on proving he knows about NOLA that he goes over the top with the cameos.

>>10258819
>he didn't have Cal Ripken Jr in every episode
I think most street corners in Baltimore have zero instances of Cal Ripken Jr, while there's a fucking ton of musicians in New Orleans, particularly in a neighborhood known for having a fucking ton of musicians living in it.

>>10258818

That's funny. I didn't see the water grabbing six packs and television sets.

Nor was the water a surprise to anyone that lived in New Orleans. They knew it was coming for days. It's their fault if they weren't smart enough to leave when they were told to.

>>10258943
How was grabbing six packs and television sets the problem?

>>10258943
>That's funny. I didn't see the water grabbing six packs and television sets.
No, it ruined plenty of those.

>>10258910
You've obviously never been to Baltimore. Ripken is the man to see about a g pack.

>>10258979

It was a problem because some people seemed unable to pass up the chance of stealing unguarded loot in favor of getting the fuck out of a city that was below sea level about to be hit by a hurricane.

>>10259001

Now how the fuck is water going to ruin a six pack? If anything, It'll help keep it cool.

>>10259047
And how was that the problem?

>>10258943
Those people needed those six packs to survive. They were dehydrated.

>>10258678
>I've not seen an episode of this, but do they ever talk about the black people looting during and after?
No, but they don't talk about the cops who did the same thing, for that matter.

Can somebody shoop the Treme logo on this? lol

>>10259033
"I got that Iron Man"

>>10259112

That's more than a six pack. He must have been extra dehydrated.

Davis and Antoine talking while Antoine's daughter was sucking on the BBQ sauce bottle made me laugh so hard. Then Antoine smokes Davis's joint

Does /tv/ like it? No, not really. Nor do most of the halfheads on IMDB or anywhere else really. They're constantly comparing it to The Wire simply because it has the same creators, or bawwwing about how there is no conflict.

There is conflict every fucking episode. The conflict is the inept response of the government, but local to NOLA and nationally as well as the conflict of the people trying to pick up their disrupted lives. I guess to these people conflict has to always be another person.

People also hate it because it is character driven, a character study. Not enough action and black people shooting each other to reinforce a stereotype in their suburban minds for them, I guess.

I'm waiting for the season to end so I can watch it straight On Demand.

>>10259190
I'm not even gonna lie here. The Wire is my favorite show ever, but I think I might start liking Treme more.

I am a character man. There is nothing better to me than truly involved characters whom you can identify with with ease.

>>10259174
"Dude! She's all done up like a pork chop!"

I've got my complaints with the show, but it is by far better than 99% of the shit on TV.