We have "I want to go to DPRK" threads several times a week.

I'm pretty sure you're the only person on /trv/ who has actually been there.

If you post moar pics and say things about your experience you will be a god of /trv/. You should get a tripcode and bask in the glory.

One of the things they always want to show you is the DMZ (DeMilitarized Zone). You drive 2.5 hours from Pyongyang to the border.

It's freaky. Those blue barracks are half/half in North/South Korea. Don't even think about getting too close to that little line in the middle.

You see plenty of these. It's a statue of the Great Leader.

When you first enter DPRK, you have to go and pay your respects to it. You place a bouquet of flowers and then take a bow.

This one is from Kaesong, a city close to the border. We stopped there for lunch on the way back from the DMZ. Notice how it's so empty and desolate. No cars. Almost no people. Pretty much everywhere looked like that, even for most of Pyongyang.

Just think, this is one of the cities that they actually do show you. So imagine just what it must be like in all those places that you aren't shown...

>>345421

US/ROK soldiers facing towards the DPRK side
DPRK soldiers *also* facing towards the DPRK side

lulz

This is the "highway" we drove for 2.5 hours one way, between Pyongyang and the border. Seriously, it was this empty.

On the upside, this makes the tour guides' jobs easy. No need to allocate time for traffic.

Hey OP, what country are you from? And how exactly did you get allowed into best korea? Do they openly let tourists in (supervised of course) its just that nobody wants to go, or do you have to fufill all these requirements to set foot in the country?

(Whoooops, posted last picture out of the thread.)

Back at the Children's Palace, the training grounds for the most talented elite.

And then of course we see those kids perform. They train endlessly, every day, without break. The performance was technically superb, but of course the feeling was that everyone was performing in a completely robotic manner.

>>345420
>>345436

Eurofag here. But really, I think the only reason so few people go to North Korea is that almost nobody knows how surprisingly easy it's to go there. All those documentaries of it being a closed country give the impression that you can't get in - couldn't be further from the truth.

I went on a tourist tour with a company called Koryo Tours. They're based in Beijing. Really, the only thing you need to do to get into DPRK is plan it well in advance (say, a month). Send a scan of your passport, a photo, pay up, and that's it. Then you just have to make your way to Beijing. It was actually more work to get my Chinese tourist visa than it was to get my DPRK trip cleared.

Back to pictures...

So you've seen documentaries about the horrible oppression and starvation in North Korea. But what about tourists?

The complete opposite. You're given ample food at every turn. Of course they want you to think they all eat something like this Korean BBQ every day. Sure, your guides tell you, this is a normal everyday meal, everyone in the country eats like this all the time.

This was awesome. It's the mausoleum where the embalmed body of the Great Leader rests. We go in this long-ass route which is a museum of all the stuff he got done. Then we go to the holy chamber and bow to him 3 times. And then we see more medals, titles, gifts from all over the world. Man, that guy sure loved collecting them. Hundreds of gifts and medals from things like "(country)-DPRK friendship society".

No photos allowed inside. Almost everywhere else it was allowed. Another myth - that you can't take pictures. Nonsense. We took pictures nonstop of almost everything. The guides told us that the only exceptions are: the mausoleum here, anything military (except DMZ where it's allowed), and things under construction (except the Ryugyong hotel. I'll post that one when its turn comes up.)

Cemetary of Martyrs.

Basically, this one has all the heroes who died in the fight against Japan. The guides will, of course, tell you how horrible the Japanese were, and how they tortured and killed Koreans. It was made interesting since one guy in our group was Japanese. I wonder how he took it.

This was maybe the most mind-blowing part of the trip. So we all know that you can't interact with the locals, are with your tour guides at all times, only go where they plan it, etc etc.

They took us to a park in Pyongyang where the locals were having a celebration. Wow! Tons of locals, and we talked with them and even danced with them! Pretty sure that even the people who go to DPRK don't get that often.

Before you go all cynical and say it was just a set-up... why would they bother to gather hundreds and hundreds of people, all dressed up, partying all over, just to impress a small group of foreigners?

This is called the Ryugyong hotel. We passed close by it in the bus.

They started building this ages ago, it was supposed to be 100 stories high and the highest/best/awesomest hotel in the world. But they ran out of money, and the whole building was at risk of collapsing, and so on.

So after it sat there dead for years, they suddenly started rebuilding it. Will it actually be finished this time around? Time will tell...

This is another place you will always be taken to, since it's so important. It's the birthplace of the Great Leader. They will tell you he was born in this small farming shack, how he was a commoner, but he had great ideas, and then being a man of the people he led Koreans to victory.

Of course, historical records outside of the DPRK disagree on his birth location... but isn't it awfully convenient that his birthplace is so close to central Pyongyang? And that there is nothing resembling farmland in the area near this farming shack?

Ok, so here's one from the hotel that you will most likely stay in. It's called Yanggakdo. 47 stories high. This here is the revolving restaurant on the top floor. (It doesn't actually revolve, but who cares about details.)

A day as a tourist here usually works more or less this way - leave the hotel by bus, see one thing after another at breakneck speed, and in the evening, return to the hotel and gulp down beers. There isn't much to do in the hotel, other than drinking, bowling, and gambling. So you'll do plenty of those.

We were taken to a flower exhibition. Of course, like everything in the country, it's to honor the Great Leader and the Dear Leader.

Mainly it's just a lot of arrangements of a specific type of flower, an orchid variant. It's called the Kimilsungia flower. Really. And there is another called the Kimjongilia flower.

Here's another oddity. They don't have traffic lights in Pyongyang. Instead, they have the Pyongyang Traffic Ladies.

Basically they have these hawt young girls in sexy outfits directing traffic at intersections. Not exactly challenging with the traffic in Pyongyang.

Just a random shot of Pyongyang. This one is from a place called Kim Il Sung Square. And yes, pictures of the Great Leader and/or Dear Leader are everywhere, as are DPRK flags and propaganda slogans.

Another awesome place, the War Museum. Or, by full name, the Victorious Fatherland Liberation War Museum.

You'll be shown stuff like captured tanks, vehicles, and told over and over again how the evil American imperialists tortured and killed Koreans. Of course, in the end, the Great Leader rallied the people and they chased away the evil Americans, who ate babies and kicked puppies just for fun.

And yes, we had Americans in our tour group.

This is the Pyongyang subway. You go deep, really deep, and then admire all the artworks of the Great Leader at the subway stops. Usually, tourists only go one stop, and they wonder if this actually is the whole subway, and the rest is a sham.

But our group was awesome, and we actually rode it for several stops. So I can confirm at least that there's more than just one stop.

U.S.S. Pueblo. This was a US spy ship captured in 1968. Americans insisted that it was in international waters. DPRK, of course, disagrees.

We are shown around a bit, and of course hear how evil American imperialists tried to spy on the noble Korean people, but their brave soldiers captured the ship and forced the US to apologize.

The Worker's Party Monument. It symbolizes the Korean Marxism that they believe in. It's not just a hammer and sickle, but there's also a paintbrush. DPRK is founded on the idea that there are 3 classes of people - workers, farmers, and academics.

And then, at the end, everyone returns to China by train or airplane. Mostly train. It's a long trip.

That's it for my pictures. I just posted briefly the highlights of the trip. If you want more pictures, or just have questions, I'll be happy to oblige. I have touched all the main points, but if there's some picture here that you want to know more about, just ask.

Like I mentioned, it's really easy to go to North Korea. You just need a travel agency. I was very satisfied with Beijing-based Koryo Tours and can recommend them (no, they don't pay me.) If you want to see DPRK... go for it!

Awesome thread OP, DPRK is high on my list of travel destinations, although in the scheme of things I would look small time - I know some people who went to Afghanistan for a holiday lol!

>>345467

Do you get supervision on the train? What's to stop you from talking to locals? Do you get off at the border or does it continue into China? Any pictures taken from the moving train?

North Korea would be pretty awesome if there were more locals in the cities

>>345470

Not OP but I just read this, apparently so!

>dog meat

lol OP, that Korean BBQ looks delicious!

>>345473

>implying there is anything wrong with dog meat

>>345470

No, on the train you're on your own. The guides stay in Pyongyang. You're not supposed to take pictures from the train, but some people do. However, at the border, the custom officials will go through some people's cameras and delete pictures that don't make DPRK look good. If you want to avoid this risk, just switch your memcard. However, at least for our group, nobody had any pictures deleted, and the guards went through a few of them.

You won't talk to locals on the train, since they are in different carriages. You are in first class, tourists only. The train will cross the border to China, no changing cars, and will continue on to Beijing after stopping a few hours.

>>345473

We didn't have dog on this trip. I would have liked to try it, but we weren't given the chance to. If you don't know what you are eating, it's NOT dog. It's considered a rare delicacy for special occasions. The meat in the picture is duck.

>>345477

>Implying that I wouldn't eat that delicious looking Korean BBQ

>>345479

Good tip, so the areas along the train line looked pretty bad?

>>345488

>implying dog is actually delicious!!!

>>345490

I wouldn't say they looked bad, they looked about the same as what we saw when we were driving by bus between Pyongyang and DMZ where taking pictures was fine. Of course, it depends on your definition of "bad". It was dry, desolate, deprecated. 50's Soviet Union.

However, you can never understand what people in the DPRK consider acceptable pictures or not. Here's an example - we took pictures of ourselves while we were bowling, and the bowling attendant wanted to check our camera afterwards. She deleted one picture that we had taken of the shoe rack. Go figure...

Awesome review OP.

I plan to visit N.Korea and other problematic places as soon as possible because I am worried passport stamps will be an issue later on.

Will I have any problems the other way around? As in trying to visit USA/whatever with a passport full of arab countries and n.korea?

Also. Were you allowed other electronics - portable consoles , laptops .. ? Can you plug those in somewhere to recharge? Does the hotel have an internet connection?

I am very interested in what security checks you passed.

>>345497
continued

You said you can fake the memory card check. I may copy some "good" pictures onto the fake and hide the real deal. What happens if I get caught?

North Korea would be fun to visit if it weren't so desolate and I could visit the villages

>>345497

No problems whatsoever, at least the way I went in. The visa is a separate piece of paper, and my passport never got stamped. So there is no way to tell I ever was in DPRK, other than me posting pictures about it on the Internets.

Electronics - your cell phone will be taken at the border, and given back once you leave. Laptop is OK. No Internets or phone calls. Surprisingly, your room TV gets CNN/BBC/etc. Just make sure you have an appropriate plug and charging electric devices is no problem. Generally, I think anything that's not a communication device (cell phone, radio) is OK.

Odds are you aren't able to take pictures that are considered unsavory, but if you do, and have a laptop with you, just hide them in some directory. The customs officials aren't trained to be computer gurus, they'll at most just inspect your default pictures folder. Even if you're "caught", you're safe. Worry not, you won't be thrown in jail, you're a VIP, at most they will erase the pictures.

For specific information, if you're actually going, it's easiest to just ask. The webpages of Koryo Tours have FAQs about these sorts of things. And they'll answer questions you may have. And before going, you're given a throughout briefing, so you know how things work.

Anything I left uncovered? Hmm, security checks. Your bags are checked when you enter.They're mainly just checking for cell phones/radio devices/literature that says bad things about DPRK. It takes time, but is no big deal if you've done your preparations are you were told.

great thread OP

How much money did you spend there? And on the way from China?

How much money did it cost to go with the travel company? Was that including train, intermediate transportation, accommodation, and food?

>>345557
>>345559

The tour I was on was 1440 EUR. Generally, expect 200-300e per day. This includes travel, lodging, food, pretty much everything, paid upfront. Yes, it's not cheap. But after that, you won't need much money inside DPRK. You'll only spend money on beer and buying souvenirs.

China is actually cheaper for food and lodging. You can stay at a nice 5star hotel in Beijing for 100e per night and get a really nice meal+drinks for 10e. For flights to China, check expedia, depending on where you are they can be anywhere from 700 to 2000e. I paid 1500e for mine, but it was business class. Pretty good deal.

What are the chances of getting bundled into a van and never being seen again.

Would you say it was worth it? I'm drawn to the desolate 50s Soviet era atmosphere NK seems to have going on, but I feel I'd get pretty bored with empty streets and museums. I do like the architecture however.

What else was there to do besides museums?

Hi, OP here again

>>345594

You are 100% safe while inside the country. You are closely watched at all times, but the side effect is that you also will not be in any danger, at all times. It sounds strange, but DPRK is just about the safest place on Earth to visit.

>>345602

You won't have time to get bored. Every day you are in DPRK, the guides will fill the day with as much program as they can. You will never be bored. I had a few books with me and didn't find the opportunity to even open up a single page! At the end of the day, you will feel exhausted and drink beers back at the hotel.

>>345418
Sweet review

I find it fascinating a place that got stuck in the late 50's going back into time

hey OP, your review is lacking the MASS GAMES, what about them?

Awesome thread OP

I left /b/ for the first time for 1 second and found this awesome thread. There is definitely more to 4chan than /b/.

It just all feels so fake. Like, it's an empty front, Pyongyang I mean. All the constant demonstrations for tourists, the random parades n shit. It just strikes me that it's an entire country of actors that do nothing but serve the will of Best Korea.

When they go through your picture, what if you had a memcard with tons of picture from /b/.

Pic related, its his face.

>>345744

It's like Kim Yong Il is just a troll, I dunno man, also the game.

Wow, what a great thread!
You don't happen to have any more pictures? I loved the ones you posted.

I also went to DPRK on an organized tour, and got kicked out early for speaking Korean. They thought I was a spy when really, I just wanted to practice Korean (which defeated the purpose of the tour in the first place!)

>>345785

CRIMINAL SCUM

YOU SHALL PAY FOR YOUR ESPIONAGE.
FOR WHEN THE GREAT LEADER SEES IT FIT FOR NORTH KOREA TO ASSUME THE ROLE OF SUPER POWER, YOU AND YOUR REACTIONARY FRIENDS SHALL BURN

This thread was pretty damn win, OP. Great job.

I see space mountian

nice thread op. we need more like this

I'm in South Korea. Dog isn't bad.

There's no kimchi in the dinner photos? That's not Korean at all! Kimchi and rice at every single fucking meal!

Dear poster No.345709

I am going to North Korea this year for 10 days and I will see the games. I've purchased a camera that is one of the highest spec cameras that can be brought into north Korea. I will certainly post my NK photos for the glory of /trv/! Also, I'll do more of China, which as some one else mentioned is wicked cheap and the people there love me, because I try my best not to act like a traditional douche bag tourist type. China is really good. I love Chinese people so much! But yeah.... North Korea.... It's a once in a lifetime trip and I wanna go before they modernize and go the way of china.

Me again, the one who's going to NK this year in September. For a great read, check out 'north Korea a country study'. It's very academic, but it's well worth the effort of plowing your way though. Also try the comic book 'pyongyang: a journey in north korea' by a French dude. Good times. I also hope to be the 1st person to bring an iPad Into Norh Korea, although only time will tell if I'm successful on that front. Aaah the irony, since Apple is as least as secretive, if not more so than NK.

>>345418
Dear Op
I plan to shoot in RAW, which means that since have only two 8GB memory cards, I'll only be able to take about 1000 photos. Will this be enough? How many photos do you estimate you took? I'd hate to be caught short and have to start deleting photos to make room for more.

awesome review OP, loved it

Good morning, OP here, happy to see this thread still lives.

>>345709

It wasn't a mass games tour, unfortunately. They're only held for about two months around august-september. You can bet I would have posted a picture of that. The closest we got was the performance in the Children's Palace. Only tens of kids, but eerie in its atmosphere of being robotic. At least I bought a DVD of them while there.

>>345744

It is sad, yes. Pyongyang is a front, but I wouldn't say it's "just for tourists". Rather, all of the props and set-ups are more for the local populace, to keep them in control, to convince them they are happy. Trying to impress tourists is just a bonus.

>>345831

Pic for you. "Typical Korean lunch we eat every day" we were given. Kimchi included. Don't know what everything is, but it was a pretty good lunch.

>>345785

Is obviously a troll, please ignore.

>>345418
I'm sorry to be the person who has to ask, but were there any chances to have sex with north Koreans whilst you were there? I understand that the main tourist hotel operates a Chinese run 'establishment' but I'm uncertain if it would be north Koreans that worked in them.

>>345859
>>345864
>>345867

Awesome! You'll have a blast. I can tell you that the trip is fun. I just hope you like drinking beer, since it's a DPRK trip involves drinking every day/night.

As for pictures, it might be enough, might not be. You could bring a laptop for extra storage. I filled my little 2GB memcard on this short 4 day trip, about 700 photos. Granted, lots of those were lame shots that could have been deleted. But still, if you're going on a 10-day trip, I recommend that you don't underestimate the amount of pictures you will take. Buy extra memcards in China for cheap, or have alternate storage methods (laptop).

Oh yea, for pictures... I didn't mention we went to a local funfair. Get this - we rode a roller coaster! A rusty, scary, 50's soviet roller coaster. That was a ride. And in the funfair we could again interact with the locals. Interesting little detail: almost none of the rides were up and working. We took the only one that worked.

>>345876

You've heard right. There's a sauna/massage parlor in the basement, and it's run by the Chinese. It includes full service. My guess is that the girl(s?) in there are Chinese too. No, I didn't try it out.

I think the chances of getting laid by a local are zero. Unless you can somehow seduce a tour guide, but the chances of that are probably zero too.

>>345877
did anyone in your group bring or use a tripod? I'd like to bring one in to reduce camera shake but I'm concerned it will make the guards think I am a spy or a journalist and will result in less photo ops.

>>345884

Nobody in our group had one. I don't think it's forbidden. But just have a camera with a good shake correction instead. The thing is, you keep moving so fast from point A to point B that in most places you won't have time to set up a tripod.

Here, have some complimentary Dear Leader pictures.

Can anyone in NK outside of the tour guide and the officials speak english ?

>>345889

The people you interact with usually have been trained to speak english. This means that when you go to a shop, restaurant, they will speak it. Outside that, university students will speak it, but depending on your tour, you may or may not visit a university (we didn't).

The people on those pictures look really thin.

I mean all of their clothes look too big for them.

Did you notice that OP and what do you think about it.

>>345418
Did you manage to buy any DVDs containing films made by Kim Jong Ill? He is reputed to 'ge' quite the director wanna-be. Also, how about a NK Linux? I hace head from the inter webs that it does exist, but I can't get my hands on it. And finally, were you able to see any of the markets that are said to be sprining up in NK? How about cell phones in the north? I read somewhere that because of the chinses cell towers along the border, many northern north koreans posess them (pls, don't laugh at me, i know how badly they have it, but it is possible) can you confirm?

>>345894

Yes, everyone is thin. Except the Dear Leader. I've also read that due to lack of food, the average North Korean is several centimeters shorter than their Southern counterparts.

Just don't say out loud "How come Kim Jong Il is so fat when everyone else is so thin?" Apparently an American tourist did just that and was detained for a few days.

>>345894
They not thin! You just fat! Pig dog imperialist....

>>345897

I didn't see any of those for sale on DVD. The DVDs on sale we saw were catering for tourists, so they're a bit different. On some tours you get to visit NK film studios, but it wasn't included in ours. NK Linux, you might see it if you visit a university (we didn't). Ask a russian living in NK, they might have it.

We didn't see markets, I know they exist, but they're ashamed of them since they are contrary to socialist ideas. So they don't show them to tourists. As for cell phones, we actually saw a few being used by the locals and our tour guides. From what I know, they can only call a highly restricted list of numbers. Our tour guide called a place we were coming to, for instance.

I only know from documentaries, but people at the border of China or South Korea do have cell phones and TVs that they can use to get stuff from the other side. The border people know life is better on the other side, but they can't do much about it. Of course, if you are caught watching a South Korean broadcast, you and your entire family get severely punished. So those with cell phones and TVs not locked to the official state channels are very discreet about it out of fear.

How about the price of the DVDs? How much did they set you back? Did they take you to the brewery which they imported from England? What are the rooms you stayed in Iike? I like my showers hot and long. Please tell me there is adequate hot water ha ha.

>>345910

Souvenirs can be a bit expensive. But you don't really have a choice, they're so unique. I think the DVDs were between 5 and 10 EUR. The beer was good and cheap, 1.5EUR. Didn't see a brewery, unfortunately. But their local Ryugyong brand was good.

Here's a room of the Yanggakdo hotel. There's frequent power outages in DPRK, but this hotel has their own generators. We did see brief lights-out periods once or twice, and some floors had lights off occasionally. Didn't have a problem getting hot water in the shower.

whats with the weather? the architecture is depressing alone

in case you want a more community feel place...

http://traveltheplanet.freeforums.org/

>>345927

Whenever I travel, rain seems to follow me. But in DPRK, it was only cloudy, and even occasionally sunny. Here's a more upbeat picture of Pyongyang.

There's something intriguing about DPRK... It seems so different to what we're used to in the western world.

Good story OP!

Thanks OP for the information. I am now saving for a trip myself. How much would you say the chinese leg of your trip (visas etc) cost you? I ask because I would probably also stay a week in China, to see Beijing and so on.

Everything looks so modern. All nice buildings and roads. I assume they have many factories. How come they so poor and starving. Looks like a lot of farmland is there too

>>345960

You've got absolutely the right idea, there's no reason not to see China since you have to be there anyway to get to DPRK. Visa costs depend on where you are and your nationality, but probably no more than 100e. Check your nearby Chinese embassy. You'll also need a copy of your flight ticket and fill out a form.

As for money in China, that's entirely up to you. It's possible to live on a very low budget by staying and eating at cheap places. I like comfort and have money, so I stayed at 5star hotels, which didn't cost much more than 100e per night. You'll also spend money on shopping things like pirated DVDs, overproduced Ralph Lauren etc. Bring back a genuine pirated Vutton handbag to impress a girl!

Try these sites for information:

http://www.tripadvisor.com - for hotels
http://www.seat61.com/China.htm - railing information. Beijing can get boring quickly, so use the train to visit places like Shanghai, Xian, etc. Chinese trains are efficient and reliable. You can also take overnight ones in order to have less worries about places to stay.

Also, I recommend buying the Lonely Planet or Rough Guide books about China. They'll provide detailed information on places to go, costs, etc.

Fun fact: DPRK has the Arc of Triumph. It's the same as in France, except 3 meters higher.

>>345969
To get a rough idea of Beijing, would 5 nights be enough?

CARS EVERYHWERE

>>345447
The japanese WERE terrible.

Chinafag here.

I´m just wondering OP, what do NKs think about people of manchurian descent?

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>>345990

5 nights is plenty, you can even take a daytrip to Tianjin by the superfast (350 km/h) train. Beijing was OK, I liked Shanghai a lot better.

But now to turn this back into a DPRK thread...

>>345999

I don't know, but when you are a tourist there, it doesn't matter. The people there hate two nationalities, Japanese and Americans. We had both in our group though, the way they see it is that an American or Japanese tourist individual is "not one of them", they aren't part of the evil imperialist machine, but visiting individuals. They get the same amount of respect as others. So no matter where you are from, you'll be treated as an honored guest.

People in DPRK don't know much about the outside world, I'd summarize their knowledge like this: Japan - enemy imperialists. USA - enemy imperialists. China - friends, socialists, big country. Russia - friends, white people, socialists, big country.

If you're traveling in North Korea, you'll become very familiar with this. We spent a lot of time inside this tour bus.

>>346002
Great thread OP, appreciate you sharing your experiences.
My Grandparents visited China, Vietnam and DPRK about 20 years ago. My grampa had communist beliefs but he died a few years ago, he was also an abusive alcoholic for a number of years so I never got to know him well.
I vaguely remember watching a slide show as a child and I am thinking of asking my Grandma if she still has the photos, I think it would be interesting to see if much has changed in 20 years.
I'm very intrigued with DPRK but I don't think I'd ever go because my wife is Japanese and I think it would upset her a lot.
Again, thanks for sharing

did you get laid OP?

>>346005
> my wife is Japanese
IN BEFORE A SHIT TON OF QUESTIONS

GOD DAMN IM FAST

South Korean. Would like to into North for a couple of days...

canadian here.
wow NK is awesome

Thanks a lot for this great thread, OP! There were some really surprising facts.
I'd love to visit this country one day.
Did the guides actually think that the tourists actually take the bullshit they say serious?

>>346012
see >>345879

When did you go to North Korea?
Judging from the pictures it looks like it was fall?

Very interesting thread, OP! Thanks!

This shit needs to be archived, great thread OP

>>346095
>>346086

I went to DPRK this spring.I don't really know how much the guides believe what they say and if they expect us to believe it all. My best guess is that they more or less believe it themselves (they have no choice) but also respect the fact that foreigners have different points of view. They never tried to brainwash us, just gave us their point of view. We were a well-behaved group, so we just smiled and nodded when they were explaining things. Later, amongst ourselves, we'd discuss what we saw and put in real facts. But we never confronted the guides - being polite will make the guides like you and as a result you get to see much more than if you're being an ass. If a revolution comes one day, the guides will be the last ones to join, since they live very well compared to their fellow citizens.

>>346057

South Koreans are the only exception. You need to seek a different way to get in, the normal way won't do. Just ask travel agencies over there.

>>346012

In DPRK? No. In China? Yes :P

>>346142

Atta boy, you said you hardly saw any cars but what kind were they? Foreign cars from China or Russia? Were Japanese, European, or US cars allowed?

>>346148

I seem to remember someone saying that there were a lot of old mercedes or something there.

Hey OP, where are you from?

Did you go alone or with someone else?

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Jews aren't allowed in at all.

Were your rooms bugged? Any room cleaners that didnt look like room cleaners?

Did you have to be careful when talking to your guides? I read that a slightly cynical comment regarding the regime to your guide could land them in a lot of trouble

You all know that DRPK was playing in the World Cup, right? I was cheering for them all the way! Too bad they just didn't do well. To their credit, they were playing in probably the toughest starting group.

So yea, they're proud of their sportspeople and have these stadiums.

>>346148

I'm guessing the cars are only used for tourists/visitors and the local elite. Those would indeed be mostly old mercedes.

Fun fact: the Great Leader drove everywhere in his own black mercedes. Well, he was driven, obviously. It's now on display at the mausoleum where he's buried, Kumsusang Memorial Palace. No picture, since it was a no-camera zone.

NK doesn't look too different to what I experienced of South Korea...same concrete architecture and planning reflected by the dull grey polluted skies...

>>346667

We don't know. I think it's unlikely though. We're just a bunch of harmless tourists after all. Now if you're a reporter, that might be different...

>>346668

Our guides were really nice, and our group was nice, so we didn't feel the need to be paranoid at all. Of course, we were briefed in advance on what subjects to avoid. But it's nothing you need to stress about. Just don't be an ass. And yes, it's the tour guides who get into trouble if you do something bad, not you.

Ok, who reads Korean here? This one is from the War Museum. I think it's statistics about the war, like how many people died, etc. You know, when they were fighting the evil American imperialists.

>>346661
No worries, I got this shit covered bro.

>>346674

You certainly won't get anything like this in DPRK. They barely have electricity, and it's always dark at night.