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  • File : 1275538912.jpg-(26 KB, 607x334, Detroit.jpg)
    26 KB Anonymous 06/03/10(Thu)00:21 No.328058  
    I'm going to Detroit for work next week. I'm just there for a few days looking at commercial property but will have quite a bit of time to do my own thing.

    Anyone got some must-see/visit places they'd recommend? I'm staying at the Westin Book Cadillac, which looks pretty nice if I don't want to go out. I'll have a car, so I'm not restricted to downtown.

    Also, what's the deal with homeless people and begging? Vancouver and Portland have been ad enough these past few weeks (also for work), but I imagine Detroit is even worse.
    >> Anonymous 06/03/10(Thu)00:47 No.328074
    The Detroit Institute of Art is supposed to be one of the best galleries in North America.
    >> Anonymous 06/03/10(Thu)00:57 No.328075
    eastern market on saturday..elmwood cemetary..lafayette coney island..detroit institute of arts..baker's keyboard lounge (even if ur not that into jazz u should still check it out)..motor city brewing works for some decent craft beers and some of the best cheap pizza you can find (try the godfather)..belle isle..woodbridge pub..comerica park for one of the most gorgeous ballparks in the mlb..head up i-75 to downtown royal oak if u feel like leaving the city as well (fun little "main street" area)
    >> Anonymous 06/03/10(Thu)01:02 No.328079
    Street racing on woodward or Tickets to the Tigers games are cheap on gameday if you like the opposing team it might be worth it.
    >> Anonymous 06/04/10(Fri)23:26 No.329069
    other than the DIA, there really isn't a fucking thing worth seeing in detroit.
    >> Anonymous 06/04/10(Fri)23:51 No.329078
    belle Isle is a beautiful place to just look across the water at Detroit, also the parkinglot roof of greektown is a fun place to hanout and enjoy the city views
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)07:45 No.329203
    Homeless people, just say no and walk away, or just ignore them. 99% are harmless but I would walk away and avoid them because some are psycho.

    Also, an interesting drive is south on Fort, skip over to Jefferson at Grand River, then down Jefferson to Delray. See Zug Island, Detroit Sewage Works and the River Rouge plant off in the background. Its totally industrial, so industrial you can smell it.

    To hang out and go out for dinner, go to the Midtown area, which is near Wayne State University. The area around Woodward and Warren.

    A tour of the Woodbridge neighborhood is safe and gives you an idea of how one could live in Detroit and enjoy it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighborhoods_in_Detroit

    Take a walk along the Riverfront.

    Downtown, Jacoby's restaurant is a nice place.

    Generally, drive around in awe of the decaying and abandoned buildings that would be worth millions in any other city.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)08:40 No.329214
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    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)10:28 No.329236
    I heard that Detroit has 30,40 stories tall skyscrapers just sitting there empty. Do any anons live there ? Do you think there is any chance the city will comeback to its formal days ?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)11:49 No.329249
    OP here.

    Thanks for the replies so far, that gives me some good stuff to check out.

    >>329236
    I guess I'll be able to answer your question soon. Considering I'm going there to look at commerical real estate, I'd say that's a positive sign.

    From what I've heard, the biggest problem with the property market at the moment (both commerical and residential) is that property is so cheap that people, well 'investors', are just buying up stuff and doing nothing with it. All in the hope that all around it will bounce back and then they can just sell their land for redevelopment. If too many people have this attitude, neighbourhoods won't bounce back, people need to actually begin the gentrification.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)13:45 No.329291
    Detroit is hurt by a number of things. There is not one thing that brought the D down, but all of them together.

    There was a race war, the racists won.
    There was a management-union struggle, the market won.
    Detroit was an industrial powerhouse, now most of the city is covered in contaminated dust.
    Good vs. Evil, the criminals are way ahead of the cops.
    Democracy morphed into Kleptocracy
    Drug zombies prowl all over day and night
    The local economy is based on scrapping out anything and everything they can lay their hands on.

    There is a future for Detroit but it is based on growing from what is left there now. There is no way to get back to what it once was.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)14:38 No.329304
    Stay away from Dearborn... unless you're muslim, then you're in the right place
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)15:01 No.329316
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    >>329291
    You forgot about crack rock and the mortgage crisis. Those two things, more than anything else, are responsible for wiping out our neighborhoods.
    I do think there is opportunity out there for positive change, though.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)15:19 No.329321
    >>329316
    Kwame going to prison is certainly a good start.

    I'd say bring Yzerman to clean the place up but he fled to fucking Tampa Bay.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)15:23 No.329325
    >>329291
    >There was a race war, the racists won.
    More info about this please. Are there really race wars in USA?
    Was it all the people or just small groups like the Islamic nation black pumas KKK? Do these groups have any power?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)16:17 No.329335
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    >>328074
    >DIA

    Yes.

    >>328075
    >eastern market on saturday
    Also excellent.

    >lafayette coney island
    It is essential that you go to Lafayette and not the American Coney Island nextdoor.

    >motor city brewing works
    I've heard good things about it, although I haven't gone there myself.

    >>329078
    >Belle Isle
    Also pretty cool, especially now during the summer. The water isn't even that toxic anymore.

    >>329304
    >Stay away from Dearborn... unless you're muslim, then you're in the right place
    I've enjoyed Dearborn immensely the number of times I've been there. Good Arabic cuisine (mostly Lebanese and Syrian), pleasant ethnic areas that are appealing to tourists, and nothing too bad along the main drag.


    >>329236
    There are some mostly-empty skyscrapers and the like (including Michigan Central Station), although crackheads and homeless people do live there, so they're not totally empty.

    That being said, returning Detroit to its former glory requires more than just a return of businesses and unskilled industry. Way back at its peak in the '30s-'40s, Detroit had no highways cutting straight through the city, had a decent tram system, maintained and encouraged (culturally sterilized) ethnic enclaves within the city. Greektown wasn't a casino haven, and most of what's now the outer ring of metro neighborhoods were just farmland. Reviving Detroit not just as an industrial area but as a city would require somehow re-centralizing residential areas and reversing sprawl (Lord knows how), rebuilding the decrepit auto and rail infrastructure in the city, and getting massive investment from both the state and federal government, neither of whom really want to put any more money into the city mostly due to its absolute shit reputation.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)16:51 No.329338
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    >>329325
    >More info about this please.

    The 1967 Twelth Street Riot was one of the worst race riots to shake the United States in that year. The only reason it wasn't officially called an insurrection was because the Michigan governor at the time, George Romney (Mitt Romney's dad), was jockeying to become the 1968 Republican presidential nominee and didn't want to ruin his reputation further that what the riot had already done.

    Anyways, the riot fucked up Detroit, burnt a lot of neighborhoods, and scared away the affluent and mostly white sections of the city, causing white flight and the rapid growth of Detroit's suburbs even as Detroit itself shriveled up.

    Worsening the situation was the mayoralship of Coleman Young, who remained mayor of Detroit for nearly twenty years (1974-1993) before retiring. Young was a polarizing figure who did nothing to remedy white flight, suffered from scandals and accusations of corruption at regular intervals, and probably didn't spend city money in the wisest manner. On the flip side, he did force through complete integration of the Detroit Police Department and was wildly popular amongst lower-class blacks in the city. Young's administration did little to seriously address deteriorating conditions outside of the downtown area, and his rough style of speaking and politics did not help Detroit's reputation or draw in new businesses.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:58 No.329389
    >>329335
    >>329338
    These guys know what they're talking about.



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