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    16 KB Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)16:48 No.134406  
    Sup, /trv/. What can a foreigner do for work in Japan that does NOT have to do with language (teaching, translator etc)?
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)17:18 No.134421
    join the marines and train at one of the bases in japan
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)17:21 No.134422
    bukkake
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)17:23 No.134423
    Nothing, Japan is a racist shithole that gets away with it because of its privileged position as a US ally.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)17:34 No.134427
    >>134423

    I find that hard to believe.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)17:35 No.134429
    >>134427
    You should probably read up on Japanese law, then.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)17:36 No.134430
    >>134429

    No, nothing part.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)17:56 No.134438
    You could film pornography.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)18:16 No.134445
    Anyone?
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)18:47 No.134458
    Business. If you do it right, its a great place for a small business, apparently.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)18:51 No.134460
    My uncle does tech support for some company over there...
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)19:17 No.134467
    You can do anything as long as you are good at it. Which you are not cause you are a lazy stupid fuck, enjoy your dreams.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)19:30 No.134473
    You can work in a cafe/restaurant where white guys serve japanese females cakes & shit like those maid shit they have for guys.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)20:27 No.134490
    nothing. Unless you have som mad skillz in something that they are in need of. Like in most countrys you need a degree ine something,and even then it's hard to get work. So stop beeing a weeabo and just go there for vacation instead.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)20:29 No.134491
    >>134490

    Well I have family there, and thought it would be nice to stay there a while..
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)20:44 No.134493
    Ok, time for a serious response.

    Technically you can do almost anything, but practically it's a little more difficult.

    The reason that everybody does language related jobs is that it's by far the easiest. It's extremely easy to qualify for a cultural specialist (English teacher or translator) visa. Also, English teaching is popular because companies don't generally expect you to speak Japanese.

    Almost any other job is going to require two things: Japanese fluency and your own work visa. If you don't already live in Japan and have a stable income, it's almost impossible for you to sponsor yourself for a work visa, and most companies outside of the language sector and a few specialized technical fields will not sponsor you.

    That leaves you with two options. The first is to marry a Japanese citizen, which will get you a spouse visa. The second is to come to Japan on a student visa and attend a Japanese university, which will allow you to enter the workforce with native Japanese people.

    Keep in mind that competition for jobs outside of languages is pretty tough. In most Japanese companies, connections are more important than experience. If you have a degree from Harvard or Princeton, you won't have much trouble finding a job. If you have a degree from Bob and Joe's Community College plus ten years of experience at small or relatively unknown companies, good luck.

    Also keep in mind that the most critical thing is Japanese skill. Just like nobody in America is going to hire someone for a good job if they can't speak English, nobody in Japan is going to hire you for a good job if you can't speak and read Japanese fluently. There are a few exceptions to this, but generally you need some super-specialized skills that aren't readily available in the Japanese labor pool. That's how a few engineers and programmers manage to find jobs without knowing Japanese.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)20:52 No.134495
    >>134493

    Say I get a bachelors in whatever, and go to teach there. Is the money generally enough to survive/find a wife to get spouse visa to work there at a better job.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)20:56 No.134496
    >>134493

    btw thanks for the response
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)21:03 No.134499
    >>134495 Is the money generally enough to survive/find a wife to get spouse visa to work there at a better job.

    Yes, provided you can find a job. Things are getting kind of tight right now because of the economic clusterfuck.

    That reminds me of another thing I wanted to mention. Another reason people go for English teaching jobs is because of the pay. Average hourly pay is between $20 and $30 for an English teacher, and the more specialized your field the more you make. Salaries in other jobs are somewhat comparable to the US, so if your options are to stock shelves in a department store for $9/hr or talk English for $25/hr, it's no surprise that most people go for talking.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)21:50 No.134505
    >>134499

    That wages is with a bachelors right?
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)22:06 No.134508
    >>134505
    Yes, it's almost impossible to get a job without a degree. Companies will hire you, but in order to qualify for a cultural specialist or teacher visa, you need either a bachelor's degree or a minimum of two years verifiable full-time work experience as an ESL teacher.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)22:07 No.134510
    >>134508

    I see, if jobs are tight.. should I go through the companies like JET?
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)22:13 No.134511
    >>134423
    Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy racism in Asia, it keeps the population ASIAN.

    The only thing westerners can do is cry about it while they get bred out of existence by brown people.

    Enjoy.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)22:24 No.134513
    >>134510
    You can try. There are advantages and disadvantages.

    Advantages: They take care of everything. Your training, transportation, housing, paperwork, etc. All you do is sign on the dotted line.

    Disadvantages: You don't get much, if any, choice in where you go. Most postings are in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. If you don't mind, it's great. If you want to be near a major city, it can suck.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/09(Sat)22:44 No.134519
    >>134513

    I see, is there a program where you get a little bit of a say?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)02:00 No.134558
    ennn
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)02:07 No.134559
    >>134427
    Japan is fucking totally xenophobic man
    its not the magical land of technology and anime that you think it is
    they don't really understand the concept of racism because there is no alternative
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)02:26 No.134562
    >>134559

    I knew it was, i meant i didn't believe the fact that you can't find a job outside language based things.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)07:37 No.134621
    >>they don't really understand the concept of racism because there is no alternative

    This isn't a totally bad thing.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)07:46 No.134628
    >>134621
    Umm, overall, yes it is. It is an outdated and unacceptable worldview in our increasingly globalized world.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)07:49 No.134630
    >>134628
    Who are you to say it's unacceptable? It's not like they believe in social darwinism or anything.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)08:43 No.134645
    Anyone knows racism can be used to your advantage one way or another. I've never been to Japan, but I know that for every xenophobe there's a closeted xenophile.

    You know what would be good? If fluent Japanese speaking westerners could become farm hands on Japanese farms.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)09:00 No.134650
    >>134630
    Just a globalist pushing my agenda. If I keep saying it is unacceptable, and everyone else repeats it, it becomes unacceptable.

    So, to repeat, racism is unacceptable.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)12:40 No.134724
    Ah yes, the inevitable wankfest that is globalisation. Hopefully these racist nips can hold out a bit nlonger than the rest of us drones.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)12:53 No.134731
    >>134493
    This is why after I finish my Associate's Degree at the local shitty college I'm attending, I'm going to apply at Sophia University and get a student visa. Hopefully, I should get some connections and find an alright job by the time I graduate. If I even want to stay after school that is.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)14:23 No.134758
    I'm studying for a bachelor's in Modern Language Studies (Spanish and English), I'm also learning Japanese and would like to study at university in Japan after I graduate.

    Can anyone give me any idea, whether or not it would be possible for me, with just the aforementioned degree and basic fluency in Japanese. Do Japanese universities general require more from a gaijin, or would my BA be enough?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)14:30 No.134759
    Why so anti-globalization, /trv/? Scared of being rejected by even more races?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)14:41 No.134764
    Maybe you can find foreign company where they speak mostly english?
    My uncle moved to Germany to work for a company there as an engineer without knowing a single german word prior to that.
    There's always easy, low-pay jobs that don't require a lot of vocabulary to know (janitor, burger-flipper, etc.)
    Alternatively, you can always grab opportunities that require only a computer and an Internet connection (web design/developpement, referal-advertising, ebay, etc.).
    No matter where you end up, your income will be based solely on your level of ambition. The rest will follow.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)15:22 No.134770
    >>134764

    Problem is, I have family in Japan and America..
    >> Anonymous 04/26/09(Sun)18:54 No.134842
    >>134764

    I'm looking for a job that would pay enough to start a family, that isn't language based..
    >> Anonymous 04/27/09(Mon)05:17 No.135016
    wat
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)13:44 No.136105
    wat
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)14:16 No.136111
    wat
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)14:21 No.136112
    >>134842
    Maybe you could be a rock star in the US that has like one big hit then you move to touring in Japan then retire.
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)14:35 No.136113
    sage for japan
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)16:14 No.136128
    >>134406
    bukkake, which is the only thing.
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)21:11 No.136266
    >>136128

    how do i break into the bukkake scene?
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)21:47 No.136285
    >>136266
    Be willing to take 50 shots to the face you faggot.
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)21:58 No.136289
    >>136285

    Done. Now how do i break into the business?
    >> Anonymous 04/30/09(Thu)23:35 No.136319
    >>134724 Hopefully these racist nips can hold out a bit nlonger than the rest of us drones.
    Clearly you don't know much about the Japanese economy. Japan is right behind, possibly even on par with the US in terms of globalization.

    It may not be full of foreign people, but it's full of foreign things. Nothing in Japan is from Japan. Even things that are made in Japan are made with imported products.

    Japanese people totally love chain businesses, and just like in the US, huge multinational chains are killing independent business.

    In 20 years, any random streetcorner in Tokyo will look no different than any random streetcorner in New York or London.

    >>134758
    Your B.A. will be fine. Most Japanese universities are hurting for students and there isn't a lot of competition. But if you don't get a monbugakusho scholarship, be prepared to prove you have access to about $30,000 in cash in order to qualify for a visa.

    >>134645 You know what would be good? If fluent Japanese speaking westerners could become farm hands on Japanese farms.
    They can, but nobody wants to. Japanese is a fairly tough language to learn and there aren't a whole lot of truly bilingual people, so any westerners that are fluent tend to want (and qualify for) better jobs than shoveling horseshit for minimum wage.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/09(Fri)01:38 No.136340
    >>136319
    wise anon is wise
    >> Anonymous 05/01/09(Fri)03:22 No.136359
    What about going to an Jap University after High school(w fellowship) ? Is this possible? How much will I need to pay?
    >> Anonymous 05/01/09(Fri)20:17 No.136532
    >>136359

    There's a reason Japanese come to college in the United States.
    >> Anonymous 05/01/09(Fri)21:50 No.136556
    >>136359
    Provided your Japanese and wrote memorization of random facts are good enough to pass the entrance exam, your education will probably be free. The Japanese Ministry of Education (monbukagakusho) gives scholarships for that to encourage foreign students.

    However, >>136532 is right. Universities in Japan, even the famed Tokyo University, are very low quality compared to those in the US. And outside of Japan, the names mean nothing.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)15:48 No.136881
    >>136556
    >>136532
    i call bullshit, it's well known that japan has one of the most challenging education systems in the world. kids over there are always killing themselves from the pressure to succeed, etc.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)16:11 No.136897
    >>136881

    In every level before college you are correct sir.

    However, I've read on multiple forums/articles and had my family in Japan (who is sending their kids to the USA for college) that the Japanese college system is not nearly as good.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)16:16 No.136899
    >>136881
    The japanese college is 99% for future salarymen who won't need anything being taught in the actual school except the diploma.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)16:58 No.136912
    >>136881
    challenging does not equal good
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)19:15 No.136965
    >>136912
    er, yes it does, at least in terms of quality.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)19:53 No.136981
    jap college is impossible to get into but simple once you are there
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)20:39 No.136995
    Prostitution or start in those weird japanese porn that pixalate your penis and vagina
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)20:43 No.137000
    >>136995
    Are you suggesting that the OP is a hermaphrodite?
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)20:45 No.137002
    >>137000

    That would make a super pixel
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)20:52 No.137006
    >>134493

    Well said. I started studying music in a revered provincial university here, and eventually I was awarded a scholarship to study at Berklee.

    Now again I am transferring, this time to Toho Gakuen School of Music in Tokyo. I don't even speak a lick of Japanese.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)22:27 No.137040
    Any of the people here crying racism ever been to Japan? Or are you just repeating what you read on 4chan?

    3 years here, never experienced racism.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)22:50 No.137048
    Good luck with getting a job in Japan or any foreign country at the moment with the recession hitting.

    Most governments are only allowing employers to hire locals or permanent residents, if they do hire a foreigner they have to give a good explanation as to why they chose them over a local.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)23:09 No.137053
    >>137040
    Some of the most racist people in Japan you will meet are other bitter, white expatriates.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)23:23 No.137056
    >>134423
    The same people who post shit like this are the same ones who flood bell curve-stormfront-niggerdeath-antisemite claptrap.

    My experience with racism as a very obvious foreigner in Japan isn't any worse than as a native citizen growing up in a supposedly liberal part of the US.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)23:32 No.137058
    Every time I was in Japan the people were very nice.. they even went out of their way to speak English to me.
    >> Anonymous 05/02/09(Sat)23:37 No.137059
    >>134493
    Now if a Japanese/American couple were to marry in the US, is it still possible to get a spouse visa in Japan? I know it can be if the couple were to marry in Japan and get one in the US, but not sure the other way around.
    >> Anonymous 05/03/09(Sun)00:04 No.137065
    NOT do with Japanese language in Japan?

    wat
    >> Anonymous 05/03/09(Sun)00:15 No.137069
    >>134511

    That about sums it up
    >> Anonymous 05/03/09(Sun)00:45 No.137074
    work at the japan office of an american company; get paid 3x the standard japanese salary for your experience level
    >> Anonymous 05/03/09(Sun)01:09 No.137086
    Seconding bukkake.
    >> Anonymous 05/03/09(Sun)01:35 No.137089
    whorinQ
    >> Anonymous 05/05/09(Tue)21:22 No.137566
    ok, i cant find a job doing TESL after applying to 10 schools. i just got my BA (history) from university of michigan, which, i think, is a pretty good university. what am i doing wrong here?
    >> Anonymous 05/05/09(Tue)21:53 No.137583
    >>136319

    20yrs?
    >> Anonymous 05/05/09(Tue)22:36 No.137601
    >>137566

    Tried JET?
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)00:14 No.137620
    >>137601
    i was looking for something that didn't have such a long waiting period. also, i think their requirements are even more stringent than the average eikaiwa. all the jobs i've applied to list their minimum requirements as a BA in any field and native english ability. i figure i'm losing out on position because i have no experience or TEFL certificate. and of course, i cant get experience unless i get a job.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)04:16 No.137662
    Pretty much any non-English teaching job is going to require really good Japanese. JLPT level 3 absolute minimum but anything below 2 is unlikely. I have several friends in science over here, so thats possible. But if you can get a spouse VISA youre golden.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)04:18 No.137663
    JET is difficult to get into, but any of the dispatch companies (Interact, W5 etc.) are much less choosey, but you`re not as pampered or well payed.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)04:18 No.137664
    >>134473
    Haha, does these really exist? I want to try working at those, hahaha.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)04:33 No.137667
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    In a recent episode of Madventures the guys were in Japan and suggested that you could work as a platter. It pays well (about 100$/h) and you dont have to speak a lick of japanese. You just lay still.
    >> Anonym 05/06/09(Wed)04:36 No.137668
    >>137667

    haha. saw that too. that is really well-paid job!
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)04:38 No.137669
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    And in an old episode they got money by selling girls' panties (which the fat guy used for 4 days) to a collector
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)05:29 No.137689
    >>137669
    Some finnish woman had used them for four days... who the fuck would buy undies worn by a fat dude.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)05:36 No.137695
    >>137689

    The one who would think that they were worn by a finnish lass
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)06:52 No.137709
    >>137620

    >i figure i'm losing out on position because i have no experience or TEFL certificate. and of course, i cant get experience unless i get a job.

    Well, how about trying to get some experience in your own country first before trying to teach in another country? I think most schools in a foreign country, such as Japan, would pref someone to have at least done some teaching in his life.

    Durrrr.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)10:49 No.137766
    Get an engineering degree.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)11:04 No.137776
    >>137766
    I have an engineering degree, and it appears to me like if I work in Japan I'll be overworked for about the same pay, and if I go for a master's degree, well, I can't because all the decent schools are japanese-only, and my jap is only conversational.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)11:32 No.137787
    >>137566 ok, i cant find a job doing TESL after applying to 10 schools
    Are you physically located in Japan right now? The vast majority of schools won't even consider you if you're not here when you apply. The ones that do hire overseas only take overseas applicants if they can't fill the positions with people who are here. Companies like a face to face interview, and they really like people who've been in Japan a while so that they know you're not going to freak out from culture shock and disappear after three months (which happens a lot).

    >>137053 Some of the most racist people in Japan you will meet are other bitter, white expatriates.
    This is true, however...

    >>137040 3 years here, never experienced racism.
    Then you must not have been paying very much attention. Racism in Japan is very real, but it is different than in the US. There are no lynch mobs or overt racial hate groups (against white people, anyway; there are plenty of overt anti-Korean and anti-Chinese hate groups). The majority of the racism here is ingrained in the social structure. For example, the government regularly insisting that the majority of crime is committed by foreigners, and cracking down on foreigners whenever there's a high profile crime committed by a Japanese person. Or landlords who refuse to rent to foreigners because they're afraid they'll be loud or messy. Another example is businesses that refuse foreigners. Another example is the haafu issue, half-Japanese half-foreign children are not treated the same as ethnically 'pure' Japanese children despite the fact that they have full citizenship and speak fluent Japanese. I'm not going to make an exhaustive list of racist issues in Japan, but the general idea is that they're more subtle and usually less directly harmful than racism in the US. But I don't think that makes it acceptable, particularly because most Japanese people won't even acknowledge it exists.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)11:36 No.137788
    >>136965 er, yes it does, at least in terms of quality.
    No, it does not. I could easily create a class that would challenge the fuck out of you, in fact there's no way you could pass, but I guarantee you wouldn't learn anything useful.

    There are two aspects of the Japanese education system that you fail to understand. The first is that university is superfluous. Japanese students work their asses off and learn far more information than the average American university graduate in order to pass the university entrance exams. After that, the next four years are spent relaxing and making the connections that will secure their positions for the rest of their lives. Japanese society is based on who you know, not how well you do your job.

    The second is that the Japanese education system through high school is based on the wrote memorization of a massive quantity of facts. There is virtually no emphasis on developing critical thinking or creative skills. That is why Japanese students tend to blow western students out of the water on standardized tests, but they generally can't write a simple position paper or argue a point.

    A quality education teaches you how to think, information is secondary. A Japanese high school education is challenging because you have to spend every waking moment memorizing random data to be recited on a test, not because you have to give serious thought to anything. Thus here is an example of an education that is challenging yet not particularly good.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)12:06 No.137801
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    Japan invented anime how can it be racist?
    >> Anonymous 05/06/09(Wed)12:22 No.137811
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    pic related?
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)00:45 No.138080
    bumpan
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)02:04 No.138091
    >>137788
    I see.
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)02:56 No.138096
    >The second is that the Japanese education system through high school is based on the wrote memorization of a massive quantity of facts. There is virtually no emphasis on developing critical thinking or creative skills. That is why Japanese students tend to blow western students out of the water on standardized tests, but they generally can't write a simple position paper or argue a point.

    this is the reason azns haven't been inventing much for over 9000 decades all they do is recite and NOT THINK FOR THEMSELVES
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)03:54 No.138110
    The Chinese were ahead of the rest of the world in inventions til the Ming dynasty..
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)03:57 No.138112
    dude, rote memory is just a stereotype from the 60s. It's true that MODERN Asian schools cover a lot of material, but they do the creative thinking and socratic approach things too
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)04:15 No.138117
    Ok,

    I may know a small solution to your problem

    Depending on your nationality there may be a job that only targets the expat community in Japan, mainly Tokyo or Osaka.

    That is the offshore Financial Services industry... And it happens to be the industry I am in.

    However I have been to Tokyo but do not and have not lived there but if you are looking for a job its worth filing through the offshore financial adviser websites for Asian based companies.

    Some I can give you off the top of my head would be.

    Devere & Partners
    GWM (Global Wealth Management)
    Austen Morris
    Financial Partners
    Globaleye
    AES International
    Tenbridge
    Montpelier

    Most of these will have a careers section, and look for you educated people to bring into the industry.

    I personally got into it myself in Malaysia and its been the best decision of my life.

    However you will be expected to fund your own move to Japan and it will be expensive.

    http://www.recruitsoffshore.com/
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)04:25 No.138121
    >>138112
    Sonny, it most certainly is not a stereotype from the 60s. First of all, lets establish that we're talking about the Japanese school system, not the "Asian" school system. Asia is a big place and, contrary to popular belief, not all slant-eyed yellow countries are the same.

    The Japanese education system has been through several reforms since it was invented by the Americans in the 1950s. The current iteration is more progressive than ever before, but it's still very heavily biased toward memorization rather than critical thinking. Most of the reforms have been about reducing the number of hours students spend in class, but because the university entrance exams were not changed to match, it just forced students into after-school cram schools to make up the time they were missing.

    Currently the Japanese government is discussing and implementing a several part reform that is intended to do several things. It is intended reform the university entrance process to take into account students' grades and other achievements rather than entrance exam scores exclusively, and to change the focus of the tests from the recitation of a wide assortment of random pieces of information to an evaluation of problem solving and reasoning skills. The goal is to de-emphasize the tests in hopes that it will make room for real reform at the primary and secondary school levels, since without it any changes will be negated by students' need to score well on entrance exams over all else.

    Japanese classes still emphasize the teacher as the active presenter and the students as passive learners. Material is presented as gospel and students dutifully copy it down. The concepts of seminar-style classes and learning through discussion and by questioning and defending ones ideas are only barely starting to catch on.
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)07:21 No.138168
    >>138117

    is this trustworthy?

    seems kinda like what you'd see on an infomercial.
    >> Anonymous 05/07/09(Thu)07:55 No.138173
    >>138168

    The web provided is a bit like that yeah...and is linked to devere and partners but there are many MANY more.

    But its true there is an industry that caters for only the offshore expat and provides financial services to them.

    Depending on the country the local financial services authority regulates them and grants them visa's

    However the industry is very performance driven so I wouldnt attempt it unless thats the kind of person you are.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/09(Fri)00:54 No.138470
    well hm
    >> Anonymous 05/08/09(Fri)01:14 No.138479
    >>137788

    THIS MAN IS 100% ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN EVERYTHING HE SAYS. ANYBODY THAT DISAGREES IS IGNORANT.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/09(Fri)01:15 No.138481
    >>138479
    i wrote this, so i figured i would ask out of curiosity

    >>137788
    >>138121
    are you an exchange student, an english teacher, a prof?
    >> Anonymous 05/08/09(Fri)05:24 No.138552
    you'll sense great live pressure in Janpan
    >> Anonymous 05/08/09(Fri)07:36 No.138598
    >>137788

    LISTEN TO THIS MAN
    >> 1st Duke of Trolls 05/08/09(Fri)08:02 No.138604
    >>134764
    No it's actually quite simple.
    Every engineer here knows English.
    Thats why everyone with propper skills can get a job here.
    Can't compare this to Japan.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/09(Sat)03:49 No.138886
    bvmp
    >> Anonymous 05/09/09(Sat)04:45 No.138893
    >>138604
    every engineer here knows English too

    it's just that you need to find the right company

    (hint: if the company is japanese-owned, it's not the right company. 外資系 ftw)
    >> Anonymous 05/09/09(Sat)12:11 No.138970
    >>138481 are you an exchange student, an english teacher, a prof?

    I'm a student at a Japanese university. I transferred from a major US university and came here because I thought it would be fun. I regret it for the poor quality of education, though I really do enjoy living here.

    I also teach English part time, but it's exceptionally boring and I only do it because it pays very well for almost no work. I also do a little translation and editing work on the side, but not enough to make a living.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/09(Sat)12:16 No.138973
    >>138117
    what is this recruitoffshores.com thing? telemarketing? there is only a very vague description of what the actual job is. it also looks like it might require some kinda business degree or something.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/09(Sat)12:40 No.138975
    >>138970
    what university? i'm interested in school overseas too, i've been looking at sophia university.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/09(Sun)18:36 No.139452
    >>138970

    I have some questions I'd like to ask you based on your experience. I'm actually a Japanese citizen, and born/raised in the US. Shoot me an email at utalanparty (at) gma1l d0t c0m. Thanks.
    >> Anonymous 05/11/09(Mon)01:37 No.139552
    You could become a host, sometimes you dont even need to be good-looking.
    >> Anonymous 05/13/09(Wed)22:53 No.140335
    B00MP
    >> Anonymous 05/13/09(Wed)23:35 No.140346
    >>134406
    you can always bethe yakuza foreing bitch or do some pr0ns there. Other than that you cant really do any shit in there, im serious unless you have studied in the country before and have a jap degree.
    OH and please stop being a weeaboo faggot. contrary to popular believe, Its not cool to be a weeaboo.
    >> Anonymous 05/15/09(Fri)21:21 No.140651
    >>138121 (awesome info BTW)

    Don't forget about sougouteki gakushuu, the program that the ol' Mombusho developed to combat the fact that Japanese education was absolutely nothing more than the rote memorization of facts. Sougoutekina gakushuu, or "cross-curricular class", was supposed to allow students for a few hours a week to choose what they wanted to study creatively, directed, with measurable results, but again to apply skills creatively to problems.

    It lasted, what, about 5 years? Then mombusho (now renamed) yanked it out of the schools. Why? Because the rote memorization national tests were showing slightly lower numbers than in previous years. They got rid of all that creativity bullshit in order to get back to the business of misapplied knowledge so that their math grades would be good.

    I taught for years at JHS, HS and College. It was impressive (students mostly obey teachers and fall in line, even at "bad schools"), and at the same time fucking horrifying for Europeans or N Americans.

    They don't write essays in Japanese schools but for a few times a year. And "essay" is *never more* than about 3 paragraphs, or one single page of paper.
    The "highly ranked" public schools (like the number one female HS, male HS in some kanto prefrectures) in Japan have an interesting science program: They never perform science experiments. Nope, gets in the way of rote memorization and tests. Instead, this is great: They rote memorize the ideas behind famous experiments, memorize the results, and memorize the science/math behind it. No dissection, no dropping potassium in water. Instead, they'll read a chapter in a book that shows you a picture of potassium in water, and have you memorize what happens.

    Love Japan in many, many ways. But I would rather homeschool than to have my kid touched by the Japanese Ministry of Education.
    >> Anonymous 05/15/09(Fri)21:25 No.140652
    Oh! How could I forget?

    If you already have another job, a great way to make money on the weekends is to buy a Catholic Priest costume and a bible, and fake your way through being a priest at weddings!

    I've done it once (as kind of a favor), I had two friends that did it as a racket. Doesn't matter that you're an atheist, or that you slip in silly shit into the ceremony, if you are White, Big, Foreign-Looking, have a good, peaceful smile, there are young Japanese out there who want to give you $300-500 US to stand in front of them and smile and babble for a few minutes. They don't ask, you don't tell, both sides walk away happy.

    It's not a career, but it's certainly a decent job.
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)10:39 No.140777
    OP here, nice informative thread.
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)10:46 No.140779
    you can always be a zenophobic yellow douchebag who touts their culture and nation to be superior even though you have accomplished nothing noteworthy to the rest of the world besides gettng raped by a nuke. twice.
    oh yeah, and weeaboos
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)11:38 No.140802
    >>140779

    3/10
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)11:58 No.140805
    Hey English teachers, what route in college should I take to teach English in Japan/China?
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)15:26 No.140843
    >>140802
    not a troll.
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)20:07 No.140890
    >>140843

    Oh.. well in that case, you grossly exaggerate the xenophobia.
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)20:27 No.140894
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    If I see one more faggot post the word xenophobia I am going to puke...

    >yellow douchebag

    dude they are the aryans of the far east... why do you think they teamed up with Germany?

    >who touts their culture and nation to be superior

    if you are not hardcore the jews zerg you with third world trash, just the way it is see america and europe... play soft and get fucked
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)20:35 No.140896
    >>140805
    suicide
    >> Anonymous 05/16/09(Sat)21:50 No.140904
    get good at mahjong and live off winnings.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/09(Sun)05:49 No.141009
    >>140894
    japs haven't done anything for the world.
    and germans are not aryans anyway.

    what original inventions, used world wide, do we use of theirs today?

    examples:
    europeans: inventors of the scientific method and modern rationalism, along with pretty much all the discoveries they have entailed in modern technology. modern physics.
    medeterranians: revolutionized military science, great strides in the fields of geometry and ancient philosophy.
    south asians: first cities and organized civilizations. cotton gin, water wheel, first artillery shells. wrote first books on medicine and mathematical methods for calculus.
    mesopotamia: first to make the innovations that allowed for the creation of empires, including mailing system. invented algebra as we know it and modern number systems, written language, windmill.
    mainland orientals (chinese): printing, hydraulics, gunpowder, paper, holistic medicine, many mechanical devices.
    pacific islander: improved upon the inventions of others, but cannot claim originality for anything in widespread use today, or anything that lead to the inventions in widespread use today.

    see, japs are all fucking orangutans.
    Japanese are orangutan like master imitators.
    a bunch of fuckin apes
    >> Anonymous 05/17/09(Sun)05:52 No.141010
    >>141009
    japs can use spell check, you can't. also, they have evolved into robots, so your post is invalid
    >> Anonymous 05/17/09(Sun)06:18 No.141012
    >>141009
    cartoon characters with big eyes and spiky hair
    theory destroyed
    >> Anonymous 05/17/09(Sun)06:51 No.141017
    >>137006
    If you're still here, what's it like to study music in Japan? Is it any good since you decided to do it there, or is it best to stick to Europe?
    >> Anonymous 05/17/09(Sun)09:46 No.141060
    join the military and request to be stationed in japan
    >> Anonymous 05/17/09(Sun)12:58 No.141116
    >>141060

    Lol. I can see it now.

    "Sir, I'd like to be stationed in Japan."

    "We'll consider it."

    "Man, what is with all this sand in Afghanistan.."
    >> Anonymous 05/17/09(Sun)14:15 No.141133
    >>138975
    I'm planning on applying at Sophia University as well. Requesting more info.
    >> Anonymous 05/17/09(Sun)21:37 No.141243
    >>140651
    Hmmmmm...that sounds exactly like my (very American) High School.

    Except the essay part. We had to write, like, three two-page essays a week. I would have preferred some memorization to that bullshit.

    Jap system still sounds like it sucks, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/18/09(Mon)09:18 No.141378
    bump
    >> Anonymous 05/20/09(Wed)18:55 No.142168
    bumpan for responses
    >> Anonymous 05/21/09(Thu)20:45 No.142563
    Get into IT, yo.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)00:54 No.142622
    >>142563
    what is it?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)02:52 No.142642
    Work @ bar/clubs. Ull get laid.
    You can thank me later.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)03:04 No.142649
    >04/25/09(Sat)16:48

    holy fuck this thread is oldddd
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)04:04 No.142658
    >>142622

    you know, information technology...

    >>142649

    why so sagey?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)05:44 No.142678
    Funny, I remember replying to a thread just like this a month ago.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)05:48 No.142681
    >>142649
    welcome to /trv/
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)13:38 No.142791
    >>140651
    >>140651
    But how come they pwn everyone in science, engineering and pornography??

    What is the secret of their scientific and economic success?

    Toyota etc. The guy that invented the tunnel diode, Yagi antenna, Sony etc.
    I really don't think they would succeed if they weren't judging their employees by merit rather than corrupt family/friend connections.

    The sad thing is the brainacs of Russia and Easteurope only shine when they come to America. There is something killing entrepreneurship here, high taxes whatever, atmosphere of corruption... :'(

    Easteurofag here.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)14:12 No.142799
    Do some porn you baka gaijin just like Emiry
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)14:44 No.142813
    this thread is relevent to my interests I will read it later. I recently got rosetta sone and want to gtfo of my country
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)16:16 No.142845
    >>142791

    What's their secret? American money.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)16:51 No.142852
    This is not OP, but I am wondering if the people saying to do porn actually know anything about actually getting a job in porn over there?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)19:15 No.142902
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    >>142791
    >how come they pwn everyone in science, engineering and pornography??
    No they don't you slavic weeaboo piece of shit.

    This pic is real engineering, not fucking Sony's entertainment products or Toyota's shitty cars.

    As for science, look at Nobel Prizes. Japan gets buttfucked by European countries a fraction of her size.

    Maybe the porn is better but that's subjective.

    >>138121
    >>140651
    These posts pretty much confirm everything I already suspected. The Japanese are good at copying and memorizing, but not creative thinking. Maybe the education is to blame, but the education style is a reflection of the Japanese character and attitude to learning.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)20:31 No.142922
    >>142902

    Their shamelessly pedosexual society plus the fact they seem to be behind most of the twisted and awesome sickfuckery on the internet means anon will always revere them. Even if they have contributed very little in the scheme of things bar anime and katanas zomg
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)20:51 No.142930
    >>142922
    >> "America loves its hot jailbait ass"
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)22:23 No.142966
    I liek how they sell used panties in machines, we need sum of that in the US
    >> Anonymous 05/22/09(Fri)22:26 No.142968
    >>142966

    I've never seen that in Tokyo.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/09(Sat)00:23 No.142982
    http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.asp
    >> Anonymous 05/23/09(Sat)00:25 No.142983
    >>142968
    Me neither, and I've been to the seedy ass shit holes and porn stores.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/09(Sat)14:13 No.143192
    >>142983

    lawl, do share what else you saw down there.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/09(Sat)15:32 No.143224
    You know how once upon a time people bought porn the old-fashioned way? By shuffling into an adult bookstore and quietly browsing the wares, and exchanging money for playboy and what not?
    Basically just like that, except it's a bunch of asian men (and women!), and the porn is the kind of stuff you see right here on 4chan /d/, /h/, /t/, /y/
    >> Anonymous 05/24/09(Sun)23:34 No.143727
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    >>143224
    >playboy
    >porn
    >> Anonymous 05/25/09(Mon)00:51 No.143748
    >>143727

    What do you call it?
    >> Anonymous 05/25/09(Mon)09:38 No.143849
    >>143748
    A magazine with mostly (boring) articles and some heavily airbrushed models.
    >> Anonymous 05/25/09(Mon)17:07 No.143977
    >>143849

    Would they happen to be naked?
    >> Anonymous 05/26/09(Tue)04:38 No.144255
    >>143977

    Eventually, barely. And if you think nudity makes something pornography... well, then you must be American. They're just pin-up models.

    Granted, I haven't seen a Playboy since I was a teenager, so if they've suddenly turned into porn, this is the first I've heard of it.
    >> Anonymous 05/26/09(Tue)05:07 No.144269
    >>144255
    por·nog·ra·phy
    1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.

    Sexually explicit material (...) is often used as a euphemism for pornography. It includes images and descriptions of nudity, especially genitalia, and unsimulated sex acts.

    Anywho, this thread needs more jobs you can get in Japan that isn't based on using English.
    >> Anonymous 05/26/09(Tue)05:36 No.144281
    >>144269

    I wouldn't call anything in Playboy explicit. I also don't think it's intended to cause arousal. It's just like FHM and whatnot, only they're allowed to show nudity in Playboy. They're just "pretty" girls because it's a mens magazine and men like pretty girls.

    Also, I've seen lots of things, like documentaries and such that contained nudity and I wouldn't have called them sexually explicit or porn or whatever either.

    And yeah, why isn't anyone talking about non-language based jobs?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)03:39 No.145004
    >>144281
    hey. youre an asshole.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)08:22 No.145045
    >>142852
    you pretty much cant do it. japanese like looking at other japanese have sex. if they want you, you'd only be filling a small niche market, (read: like blacks in japanese porn). but in general, westerns arent sought after.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)09:37 No.145063
    >>145045
    There's a large enough market for thin, scrawny, gymnast-looking slavic chicks in Japanese porn.
    Search dmm.co.jp for 外国人
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)09:51 No.145070
    >>144281

    Just because you're jaded from watching too much tranny scat porn, it doesn't mean Playboy isn't INTENDED TO CAUSE SEXUAL AROUSAL.

    It's pornography. Just not very good pornography.

    And thanks to all the anons giving actually useful info here instead of douchebaggery about what's real porn, bukkake, and niggerism.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)10:11 No.145079
    >>145063
    unless the person who was asking about getting into porn is a hot chick, its not really the same. those girls are probably part of the ever growing number of eastern european call girls. not really porn stars.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)11:23 No.145096
    >>145045
    What if you are already a model in the West, a very petite model? I don't necessarily mean movies. I'm thinking more nude photography.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)11:33 No.145100
    >>145097
    But can you get work over there, if you're just a small time model? And how would that work anyway?
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)11:34 No.145101
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    >>145096
    If you're a petite white conventionally attractive blonde chick, you're probably better off doing modeling work in tokyo than in the US

    Pic related
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)11:37 No.145102
    >>145101
    I look nothing like her. More like Angelina Jolie crossed with Cindy Crawford, only in miniature and younger.

    Also, I'm half Lebanese, so I don't know if that will go over well.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)11:44 No.145106
    >>145102
    Half-Lebanese means you're white (in asia)
    I don't know the details, not being a model myself, but I was just reporting hearsay from actual expat models that I knew and walking around Ginza where I witnessed a bunch of high-roller, prissy ass, well-dressed white chicks strutting around like they were in a photo shoot.
    Consult modelmayhem and gaijinpot for asia gigs.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)11:45 No.145107
    >>145106
    Thanks.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)11:47 No.145108
    http://www.artscmodels.net/cgi-bin/models/siteup.cgi?category=1&page=2
    you will most likely need an 'entertainer' visa for whatever modeling job you get (google it)
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)11:55 No.145109
    >>145108
    I didn't even know there was such a thing as an entertainment visa. I always though entertainers just got regular working visas like everyone else.

    Thanks for the information.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)15:01 No.145183
    >>134731
    Sorry to say but the MINIMUM for getting a job in Japan is a Bachelor's Degree. An associate degree in Japan is going to be looked at the same way as someone who is in their sophomore year of college.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)15:14 No.145188
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    >>138112
    This isn't true. I spent a year at a Japanese high school as a student and can vouch for the fact that its entirely rote memory.

    Have a look at the entrance exams for any Japanese middle school, high school, or university or try and find video from a class. The tests are almost entirely multiple choice, and it's all about recalling information.

    On an English "test" I took, I got a question wrong for writing "ancient" instead of "antique" for "a word that starts with a meaning 'old'". The pic is the name of the English Target 1000 series, which every Japanese high school students use for learning words. If you could guess, the book features 1000 words which are expected to be "learned" and replicated on a test.

    Even the JLPT (Japanese proficiency test) is entirely multiple choice. This means that someone who has never spoken Japanese or been to Japan before has a (low but) actual chance of passing the Level 1 (Native Level) test.

    I have to say I don't come here a lot but this thread has had a lot of honestly good and accurate information about Japan. Of course there are plenty of assholes who still believe all the stuff they read on the internet and have a pretty warped idea about Japan, but some of you have been spot on.
    >> Anonymous 05/28/09(Thu)15:23 No.145191
    >>139552
    Yeah, you can become a host regardless of your looks under two conditions.

    1) You can talk for hours.
    2) You can drink for hours.

    Most of the people reading this know will have a higher alcohol tolerance, but there's no way you'll be able to get a job unless you can shoot the shit with weird Japanese people for hours.
    >> Anonymous 05/30/09(Sat)18:38 No.145937
    >>145102
    pics?
    >> Anonymous 05/30/09(Sat)19:16 No.145950
    I'm a senior concentrating in finance and management in Wharton @ Upenn. I'm not fluent in Japanese, but I've been taking it for two years, and I'd say I'm conversational. I'd like to work in Japan after I graduate (probably in banking). However, these jobs are pretty competitive, especially in a shrinking market like Japan. Any suggestions? Are there other industries with more opportunities?
    >> Anonymous 05/30/09(Sat)19:19 No.145953
    >>145950

    Also, is it worth getting a tutor or something and trying to pass a proficiency exam? thanks.
    >> Anonymous 06/01/09(Mon)12:58 No.146582
    enjoy your xenophobic island dwelling chinese supremacists
    >> Anonymous 06/01/09(Mon)14:25 No.146620
    >>145950
    I'm somewhat like this guy, majoring in Business Administration with either International Business or Finance (probably IB) and then getting an MBA. Any advice on getting a job in Japan in Banking or anything similar would be greatly appreciated.
    >> Anonymous 06/02/09(Tue)15:52 No.147145
    >>146620

    with you here
    >> Anonymous 06/04/09(Thu)22:21 No.147995
    so um... what should i do during my five minute teaching demostration for aeon?
    >> Anonymous 06/06/09(Sat)20:40 No.148704
    this thread will not die
    >> Anonymous 06/06/09(Sat)20:48 No.148706
    baka gaijin
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)01:25 No.148765
    Does japan welcome white wannabe-pornstars?
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)01:45 No.148768
    >>148765
    They gave Emiry a student visa.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)08:15 No.148822
    >>146620
    >>145950
    look someplace else? unless youre fluent in japanese i dont see how you'd be useful.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:53 No.148892
    >>148768
    oh god her
    >> NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm 06/07/09(Sun)17:04 No.148911
    >>134406
    military lol?



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