A knife, a first aid kit, and my dog.
Head out to the middle of nowhere, make myself a bow and arrows, live Ranger style.

>1 AU around sun
>Solar system seriously screwed up now
>XEENOOOSS

Well, here is my catch.

I am only bringing one thing.

Since the Dyson is complete and at 1AU, I will bring the Earth and all of it's content.

(._. )

A dyson sphere with what level of infrastructure present on the surface?

>you will likely never see another human again

Here's the problem. I'm not a doctor, a farmer, or a vet.
I could build a house, but where do I get the wood? Who's going to mill it? Who's going to make my nails?

Hell with it, I live in a commune on the far side of the sphere. Also, people will find things to fight about eventually. Even if resources were infinite, somebody would want the most.

Clearly this is a trap from xenos that wants to keep lesser races from advancing.
Though if they could make something that massive like it's nothing, we wouldn't stand a chance anyway.

>>10279717
Ok, where are you going to put it? Oops, it jsut crashed into the surface of the sphere's interior. Rocks fall, everyone dies. Xeno sphere is unharmed.

>>10279748
A spherical shell exerts no net force on objects inside. The planet wouldn't hit the shell unless it started with a velocity towards it.

A record of all the xeno's knowledge.
A computer which can process the knowledge and algorithms which they have in about 10 weeks.
A generator that will never shut down.

Hrmmm. I'd probably choose to live in a remote village somewhere way far away.

Though I see a slight problem with that. With such massive distances between settlements, travel between them would be essentially impossible. After a few generations, people not living is large population clusters are going to start facing complications from lack of genetic diversity.

Didn't you guys see the ST:TNG episode where they get trapped in that thing?

STAY AWAY FROM THE SPHERE, EVERYBODY IS DEAD

>>10279812
I would also live on the external surface, in a massive forest. With cheese.
Lots, of cheese.

>>10279814
Unless you're talking fewer than a dozen people... no, not really.

Can someone explain to me how gravity is supposed to work?

I work out with a large group of people to each bring an item that will be needed to build a civilisation.
Me one of my items will be the largest capacity external HD I can get hold of to store all of the information we'd need. Medical, scientific, construction, you name it.

A supercomputer with all the xeno's knowledge, all of it converted to English.

A Generator which can power the supercomputer and a massive city, such as LA, as a minimum, with powering all of America as a maximum.

All the people at my school living in our home city, transplanted onto the external surface of the Dyson sphere, if and only if they have made both the internal sphere, and the external sphere have atmosphere.

>>10279879
Kind of like magnets.

>>10279879
gravity generators.

spinning it doesn't provide any gravity over most of the surface.

>>10279783
But the thing has a 1AU (~149.5M km) radius. Earth's orbit is elliptical, ranging in distance from the sun from 145M km to 152M km. So depending on when it was made, best case the Earth is either trapped within the shell or outside, either way when its orbit progresses it will impact the sphere.

>>10279940
Assume the earth will be used in the construction of the Dyson sphere.

And assume that there will be atmosphere on both the inside, and the outside, with ways to transport from either.

And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed

I immediately join whatever organized attempts are made at intelligently distributing the collective three choices across the entire techno-industrial spectrum so that the most civilization possible can be preserved.

I only donate two of my items to this cause, though. My third item is "The Library of Congress."

I choose to live in the largest vaguely libertarian population center.

>>10279940
right, because they would build it that way.

it is fun assuming a race of aliens with the technology to build a Dyson sphere wouldn't have the forethought to make sure that it isn't going to be smacked by a planet.

>>10279976
Mr. Neckbeard. May I change your request for the Library of Congress, to the the whole American continent?

>>10279915
> gravity generators.
So... magic?

>>10279998
Something like that. You would need sufficiently advanced materials to build the sphere anyway.

>>10279839
I think I read somewhere that a population consisting of 180 people is needed to ensure genetic viability for ~80 generations.

>>10279997

Now we're just getting smug!

>>10280034
in a non-expanding population sure. with unlimited land the population will expand.

Explode, even.

>>10280057
oh hey there
given up have you?

>>10280078

Nope, was unexpectedly gone for a week, so just missed the last two threads.

'spect I'll start one myself the next time I have any cool ideas in that vein, or completed art.

>>10280034
That assumes you're trying to maintain a static population level. In a situation like this, where you have all but unlimited natural resources and land, it's not the same.

A starting population of as few as 15-20 people would be sufficient.

One thing I learnt from Iron Quest is that people can see your star go out, and that you've put a Dyson Sphere up.

Beware of RKVs.

>>10279976
>>10280057
pic related, it's you.

OP here, It seems I left a few things out, my apologies.

--You can only take things that you personally own. So no claiming xeno-technosorcery, or libraries, or continents.
--We will also assume that the entire leadership of Earth consented to this, and the price for its creation is the destruction of our planet, to act as a catalyst in this massive construction.

All in all though, I like the direction of this thread. It's nice to see civil discussion.

>>10279990
hyperspatial express route ring a bell anyone?

>>10280215
That's it.
I am now certain beyond all doubt we are being placed into a massive alien zoo habitat.

>>10280215
... well fuck that.
Do you mean own? possess? or what, as with own that basically means only shit that you made with your own two hands...

>>10280194
Golden Neckbeard has the coincidental "honor", if you can call it that, of having a beard on his neck that is gold. His face is quite literally /tg/ related, he is a meme incarnate. Second, he contributed the magic the gathering thing. That's more than a lot of people here do.

What's a dyson sphere? Is it sorta like a Halo?

>>10280194
> Click reply links
> Can't see posts due to greasemonkey

Seriously, if someone insists on annoying narcissistic behavior, then they're doing you a favor by using a trip. It's worth the trouble to download Greasemonkey and the 4chan script.

>>10280352
it encompasses a star, and collects energy.
It is also hard shelled.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere

>>10280371

>hating on Golden Neckbeard

Get the fuck out of /tg/, nigger. Why don't you get an early start on your summer reading for 10th grade. The Scarlet Letter is going to take at least three months for a fuckface like you to work through.

>>10280215

Is this Dyson sphere just going to be a vast wilderness, or will they set up cities for us?

Also, is there any way to get between the inner and outer surface? Because if not then everyone inside is trapped, FOREVER; granted it's a lot of space to tramp around in, but still. And people outside had no source of light, ETERNAL NIGHT AWAITS, presuming that enough heat is transferred from the inside to the outside that everything doesn't just freeze eventually anyway.

Also, is it only stuff we OWN now or stuff we can theoretically own? Like we could take a horse because it would be possible to buy one but not alien tech because it's not possible to buy it (presumably).

Laptop with a shitload of important documents and historical texts. A loaded gun. The recipe for Coca Cola. A city.

>>10280352
Sort of, except it's far bigger and it's a sphere instead of a ring.

>>10280337
I'm taking it to mean things that are yours, just to prevent people from trying to take the entire library of congress or the planet because it's collectively one "thing."

My computer because it's got all my shit on it, and hopefully there would be some kind of internet system set up quite quickly.

My big TV with the appropriate cables to connect to the computer, so I can watch movies and keep myself entertained when not doing computer shit.

A gun. I'm not a /k/razy bastard, I've never fired a gun before and I'm not too thrilled on them, but if distances ARE this vast and we're pretty much abandoning established geographical boundaries of governance, I can't imagine there will be much in the way of established government on the sphere. No established government means no one paying police and soldiers to protect my fat ass. No protection + limited initial resources = Mad Max style raiders emerging and stealing everyone's shit. Sure, my puny single gun in the hands of someone who's never shot one before won't do much to deter them, and will make them that much more dangerous when they kill me and steal it, but it'd be a nice psychological comforter.

>>10280352

No. It's built around a star to capture it's energy. It's not self powered, like Halo apparently is.

>>10280425 samefaggin'
Oh, and if possible I'd live in a suburban-like area. An Urban environment isn't my style, and I'd burst out into tears if left alone in a field with a cow.

>>10280215
How does the surface look like?
Are there different climate zones?
Is everything raw nature, or are there technical areas like maintenance areas, or fields of concrete, or some other shit?

>>10280215
>>10279647
Just how much time do we have to prepare? Batman thinks this is critical.

>the price for its creation is the destruction of our planet, to act as a catalyst in this massive construction.
Where the fuck was the entire earth's biosphere in the time between earth's destruction and the finished sphere?

>>10280516
Staying at a space HoJo.

>>10280338
Contributions are one thing, wanting credit for your not-so-sharp wit is another.

>>10280495
batman's already got the complete encyclopedic knowledge of the entire universe.

The Internet is pretty insignificant amongst his archives.

>>10280549
Namefags like to stroke each others egos.

There will be three hiveworld sized cities created, two relatively near one another, another isolated. Groups planning to create a village or town may requisition a location with appropriate vegetation and terrain. Beyond that, it is a randomized collection of all terrains that exist on Earth.

The environment is along the interior side of the shell. There in one enormous hatch on the "top" (relative to the earth's orbit) should man ever develop the need or desire to travel out in the stars. The idea is to give primitive races like Humanity breathing room during a difficult point in their technological development.

>>10280414
By own, I mean theoretically possible for a single civilian to possess, so there's no bringing along nuclear warheads, entire libraries, alien technologies, and so forth.

I would bring my computer, and some tools. Not sure for my third item.

I would live on the night side (I'm pale; I hate the sun). I would try to find a relatively small satellite community, which was near a major population center. Preferably with libertarian leanings. And obviously, they are all gamers. Video games, traditional games, and outdoor games (like paintballing and shit).

ITT: OP forgets this is /tg/ and we need a page or two of details before we can make a choice.

What's the surface like? Are all of our cares taken care of like food dispensaries every two miles, beautiful allergy free light wilderness with eco-friendly housing for everyone and reliable, xenos-level wireless internet hotspots everywhere, etc.

>>10279647
> Each person may bring only three things with them

Uhh... why? More destination space than we can comprehend, and the technology to build a Dyson sphere means no space constraints and probably no tonnage limits on transport.

>>10280596
Hah, I'm taking over my hive asap.

This is not going to end well. This is not going to end well at all.

In case you were wondering:

The Dyson sphere has an inside (I'm going to assume that 1AU is inside radius) surface area of 6.29*10^33 km. Assuming that 6 billion people get transported, each person would have about 10*24 km of space to themselves (that's 247 million billion billion acres) or about 2*10^15 surface areas of Earth (that's 2 million billion Earths)

Assuming it is 1 km thick (a VERY liberal estimate, and that 1AU is the outside radius) it would have the volume of about 260,000 Earths

>>10280645
All goes well until someone decides to make the sun nova.

Incidentally, this would mean a lull in progress for a long time. No competition would equate to...bad things.

>>10280645
MATH!

Btw: is there something that simulates night-time?
Because no night will pretty much fuck everything over except light loving plants...

>>10280688
Which is, I suspect, their ultimate goal.
They present all races this seemingly amazing gift for their future, and it actually causes them to revert and lose all forward progress. In short, it's a huge zoo habitat.

>>10280722
even better: no daytime

>>10279967

>Assume the earth will be used in the construction of the >Dyson sphere.

Cheater. "They will create" does not imply "out of your home planet" (._. )

>>10280606
OP also forgot to mention which type of Dyson Sphere we're talking about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere#Dyson_swarm

>>10280743
eh, they're already far enough ahead of us

they're just doing what we'd do, giving us a toy so we don't bother them later

>>10279879
>>10279915

Uhm like it always does - Mass. You stick to the surface, on inside or out. If you look at the diagram those rings are easily 100 earth diameters.

Hell, you better hope it is still ~1g gravity and that the escape velocity doesn't get any worse than it already is.

(._. )

>>10280722
Assume there is a network or orbiting halos around the sun to draw power for its internal workings and provide night cycles.

>>10280627
Killy Log: Been walking for 50 years since the megaconstruct incident, havent seen anyone yet.

I wish I brought a gameboy.

>>10280722
If you think about it, inhabiting the inside of a Dyson Sphere also sort of defeats the original purpose, which is too capture the energy output of the sun, and I don't think plants would be able to use enough of it to not have the surface temperature be boiling hot.

>>10280804
I suspect that any sufficiently advanced race that can create a Dyson Sphere is also aware of the necessity to vent all that excess energy somewhere.

>>10280804
The funny thing with a dyson sphere is that it does not matter at all what is on the inside. The star's energy can not go anywhere except into the dyson sphere. It does not really matter if it's doing this in the form of radiation, heat, or whatever.

>>10280627
Year 92, day 276. I saw a campsite today. It looks old.

The odds of even that much happening are astronomical.

>>10280788
The problem is this: no matter how massive the sphere is, on the inside, there is no net force. You can spin it, but that isn't going to provide gravity over the whole surface of the sphere, and there would be vast areas that gravity would not be perpendicular to the standing surface (barring terracing). Gravity generators of some sufficiently advanced variety are the only effective method of providing gravity to the entire surface.

>>10280989
I always thought dyson spheres had the people on the outside

but I guess artificial gravity?

>>10280645

human population grows exponentially

within a few thousand years humans would be all over the place

1) 1 Barrett M82A1 with 100 rounds
2) 1 Camo Cloak
3) A book of all edible and/or useful plants for the terrain I will be living in.

I choose an isolated, large-ish non-urban settlement, and begin hunting. After I systemically eliminate all the men, I wait roughly a year, then enter as a traveler from another city.

Then I enjoy my own personal harem.

>>10281020
Could be either. For reference.. the gravity on the exterior would be... dependent on the average density of the sphere. Bleh.

>>10281058
>Barrett m82
>to kill people.

A bit overkill there, sir.

>>10281049
That's a lot of time. People breed when they're in close quarters. How many people would choose to be alone to begin with? How many people would die because no one decided to bring medicine or medical knowledge, or couldn't get to someone who did, because everyone's so far apart?

>>10281049
If we are to assume that the population growth rate is the same, it would take about 3300 years to get a density of population over the surface on the Sphere equal to that on Earth.

The aliens are actually using the 1 AU radius sphere as a shipyard were we are all forced to build the 1 AU long ship from a few months back.

>>10281324
but there's no oceans, either

and population growth wouldn't remain the same
at all

>>10281533
Why wouldn't you include oceans?