tl;dr

You're an idiot

these are all points ive mentioned in the past. totally agree.

hell, get rid of goalies. you'll see some high scoring shit!

It doesn't need fixing, and certainly not by Americans.

Stick to your own sports, nobody cares what you think.

second on these rules.

>>5840128

While you're at it, get rid of the other 10 players as well and just have an empty field.

I think they should make the sport more aggressive and fast-paced. The way I'd fix soccer would be decreasing the size of the field and penalizing the team if they have more that five players in their own field to defend.

>Soccer could work. It could be a great sport

It alraedy does, and is.

If you don't like it, don't watch it... You won't be missed.

tl;dr

>>5840077
Football doesn't need fixing. If you think it needs fixing then perhaps this sport isn't for you.
Nobody will do anything to Football just because some american faggots think it's broken.

needs more commercials

>>5840166
will dives be allowed?

agreed with OP to some degree. 2, 4 and 5 are good ideas.

1. sadly on the continant, esp portugal and italy, diving is considered good play when you get away with it

2. there are better ideas out there than this, but all get nocked down because fifa won't take power away from refs

3. some injuries are just knocks, when you in shape a knock to a muscle hurts more then when your out of shape. that said something does need to be done about the prima donnas, maybe if at 5s the player has to go off the pitch and play continues rtaher than a forced sub

4. but then there would be no man utd time

5. just no. giving away a penalty is supposed to be harsh, and more than enough are missed imo

With regards to 3, that would mean the USA had to substitute Tim Howard against England. If that happened the Amerifags would probably claim the sport was fixed against them.

I can't even see how anyone could disagree with 1-4 at ALL. I mean maybe there's an argument for 5, but 1-4 don't change the game at all, they fix some obvious fucking problems with the sport.

3. Sometimes you can walk it off, so this AUTOMATIC SUBSTITUTION is just stupid

4. Lol, no

5. Implying penalties = automatic free goal

Funny that football already is the most popular sport in the world, even without help from US america.

just stop watching or stop bitching ok?

Players need big pads and helmets like American sports.

1 and 3 are redundant but I agree with all of these for the most part. A dive should be an automatic yellow, no exceptions. If they're actually strict about it they can stop it from happening. Soccer's biggest problem is that diving is widespread and acceptable.

>>5840290

oh and add more refs, or let the line judges be full referees as well

>>implying soccer needs fixing

nice try faggot

pasta, this isn't /b/

>>5840254
if anything 4 should be one. why it counts up and decides to randomly end when the ref decides to is kinda... pointless?

>>5840233
>sadly on the continant, esp portugal and italy, diving is considered good play when you get away with it

This is wrong. It shouldn't be. I don't care what they think, it's not the way the sport should be played.

1. Agree
2. This shit ain't tennis
3. Plain idiotic
4. Agree
5. lolno

It's football not soccer damnit

posted yesterday fuck off faggot

I concur with the coaches challenges and embellishment.

The first one is like that on the rules, but referees don't like to enforce it.

The two last ones are a no-no.

1, 2, and 3 are good. 4 and 5 are fucktarded.

ameribro here,

i generally don't think soccer needs fixing, but these are some pretty good ideas

>>5840353
oh i agree, but thats the reason it will never be stopped unfortunately

fifa is like the fia, they are slowly going to kill off the sport by not moving with the times (goal line tech etc) or just being run by an asshole

>>5840353
when you've actually played the game though, you'll realise how many fouls defenders frequently get away with the mentality often becomes to "win" a free kick: while this probably started as running into outstretched legs and that sort of thing it's pretty easy for it to degenerate into full-blown diving

>>5840435
Why is keeping an official time, and letting it be transparant to the crowd somehow fucktarded? They can keep track of it exactly the same way if they want. Hell, count upwards if they want like dumbasses. Just show what's in the referees hand to the crowd.

Erase usa.

ITT: People that never played decent football

>>5840435
this anon speaks truth. 1-3 is what i think all footie fans want to see
4-5 are trolls 0/10

>>5840077
1. Agreed, sort of, use post-game video review to punish the diver and his coach (much more likely to be enforced if the coach is banned from the stands for a game or something)
2. No.
3. Obviously not that's just dumb. You may as well introduce rolling subs which would be sheer faggotry.
4. No, it used to be like that (sort of) and it allowed for too much timewasting.
5. What? Fuck no, that gives defenders all the incentive in the world to haul strikers to the floor any chance they get

1 should be taken a step further. Have judges upstairs relay obvious dives to the ref who has to card the player according to the decision of the judges.

>Soccer could work

It already does.

also, posting in a troll thread!

>>5840488

Its just an unnecessary change IMO. Its not broken, don't try to fix it. The diving sucks, but the timekeeping method, while different from the way we usually do it in american sports, is not inherently flawed, its just different. Different can be good, I don't mind the suspense of not knowing the exact moment that the game will end. In fact, I hate the end of high-stakes NBA games because its timeout, timeout, timeout. NFL games its timeout, timeout, get out of bounds, spike ball, timeout to ice the kicker, another timeout to ice the kicker, etc

>>5840488
too easy to waste time if you're good at it

>>5840077
The fact that diving is considered an actual Strat by major Euro teams saddens me greatly.

I dont think you guys realize just how much Americans look down on it.

>Coaches challenge
is liek i am enjoying handegg!

This would ruin the game, I bet you'd like to have 4 'periods' aswell and have every goal count as 7 points.

>>5840633
you and us (britain) are pretty much the only countries that share that attitude

i saw an interesting solution to the diving issue the other day:

The ref ASKS the player in question if he dived. If he admits that he was, then no call, end of story. If he says it's still a foul then the foul is given, then after the game there's a video review panel that looks at each such incident, and if the player is found to have dived then he gets an automatic 10 (or something very severe) match suspension.

>>5840616
>>5840621
I don't see how it's easier to waste time with a transparent game clock than it is without it.

>>5840707

>britain doesn't dive

>rooney, gerrard serial divers

>>5840633
most of us look down on it

we brits fucking hate it too, its why drogba was considered such a cunt when he first played for chelsea

but on the mainland, as i said earlier, they don't mind it as much

hell i'm pretty sure some of them consider good sportsmanship as a weekness to be exploited

>>5840728
This seems extreme but hilarious.

Why is everyone against instant replay? I mean really come on?

>>5840655

Not periods. Quarters.

But you can keep halftime, cause we do that too.

>>5840707
here in germany, you wont get much praise for diving players either

>>5840655
Fixing the officiating and allowing 1 challenege per half would HELP the game, not "hurt" it.

>>5840780
The people who disagree with 1,2, and 4 aren't really against them it's just that their hate for america, even with good ideas, is that strong.

>>5840780
fifas own line is something like this

football, much more than any other sport, is supposed to flow un-inturrupted
rugby, basketball and american rules football are all very much stop start

its why reffing for football can vary so much, a good ref isn't always one that spots every foul, but one that can keep the game flowing but also keep the discipline

Football is like a show though with Characters - heroes and villains. I wouldn't want it any otherway - talking about how much of a diving cunt Drogba is post-match is part of the fun.

>>5840770
>>5840633
It's actually like you can't really compete at the world level WITHOUT diving, because whatever team you're playing against will probably do it shamelessly and the refs will eat that shit up with a spoon.

Altidore was diving like a total faggot in the US/Algeria game, but I guess what are you supposed to do? I mean the sport is apparently devoid of honor and sportsmanship and is designed around acting like a complete pussy . . . so if you can't beat em join em?

>>5840077
ITT Reasons the world hates the US.

1. Ok

2. crap

3. crap

4. don't need

5. No. A foul call inside the box is not always a penalty anyway. The more you know.

I think we should improve half time because right now it's pretty dull, the players go to their lockers and the stations broadcasting the game analyze what happened, I mean who gives a shit right?

How about we have a big fireworks display with choreographic dancing and oh I know musical guests! We could have like 3-4 bands and singers of the pop/rock genre (gee gee baby baby) all perform and push advertisers to stretch the half to like a full hour...

Then this activity you guys play can finally be called a sport....

>3. Embellishment. If you stay on the ground for more than 5 seconds after contact, you get a mandatory injury substitution. Obviously you're too hurt to play right? Subbed player not eligible to come back on for 15 minutes.

this is a good idea, it's so fucking annoying when someone who's abviously diving, just stays down and ruin the other teams attempt of a quick attack.

>>5840077

Well, on the upside, those diving Italians are gone but Portugal, with the greatest diver remains. Quick question, how is diving treated in MLS.

>>5840077
amerifag trying to americanize football. it's not going to work, son

>>5840981

Halftime entertainment, checking in.

>>5840873
Coaches challenge wouldn't interrupt the flow at all. How would it? Nobody is talking about replaying every single offsides call. But a challenge to an obvious instant where the ref completely fucked it would FIX the game, not ruin it.

>>5840981
i think they have a hard enough time at wembley getting a decent pitch without a marching band tearing the last few strands of grass up XD

other than that, bring on the strippers and cheerleaders

allot of people have been asking for video refereeing for ages. it's just there is a minority of morons who say " herp derp it's part of the game duuurrr " and fifa lisens to them

>>5841036
nobody knows. Who watches the MLS?

OP is an american retard trying to transmute soccer in america's sport shit

6. teams are allowed one legal cockpunch per 45 minutes, to use at any time

>>5841064
Most of the time, I imagine the challenge would be for a disallowed goal due to an offside call, so a challenge wouldn't interrupt the flow any more than excessive celebration would. It's not a completely bad idea, just other than offside goals, I don't see too many other places where a challenge would really be necessary.

>>5841083

Useless sluts standing on the sidelines cheering? I like it!

>>5840986
Bullshit. Sometimes it hurts so much you can't het up after 5 seconds (or 30 even), but you're not injured.

>>5841064
i don't need convincing, fifa do, thats the problem

i personally don't think it should be limited to 1.
if the 4th official had the tv screen he could watch all challanged etc as they happen far better than the ref could

and he should then be able to tell the ref, foul/no foul

i think it was even tried out in some epl friendlies, but yet again fifa came along and said no no no, you can't take power away from the ref

>hell i'm pretty sure some of them consider good sportsmanship as a weekness to be exploited

Italians for sure. They don't know even what that is, sportsmanship.

Hmm I haven't even once heard from one of our commentators who implied that diving was considered an actual 'strategy' forced on the players by their trainer. It's more like a stupid impulse of the players.
Oh and a paranoia of new football fans considering everything as a dive heh

>>5841157
If they broke it into quarters less players would cramp up. If the are they seriously hurt get off the field it's dangerouse if the game is still playing.

See, solutions. Europe is like your ex-girlfriend who complains about all her problems and when you think of reasonable solutions she gets pissed because you weren't just "listening" and ignores them just to complain some fucking more later.

>>5841229
>Oh and a paranoia of new football fans considering everything as a dive heh

It's not paranoia. You can see it on replay pretty obviously if someone just flew to the ground pretending they were tripped.

>>5841064
it's a slippery slope though: while you could start by saying coaches can challenge any call where the ball is dead, most of the ones that people would want to challenge would be incidents where the referee didn't give a foul rather than ones where he has actually stopped play. and there'd be insistence on using it for that, and before you know it we'd have a game with time stopping and timeouts and all of that crap

>>5841036
There is very little diving and even some of the known divers get ridiculed by their own supporters (i.e. Sounders' Freddy Montero and ljungberg). Refs will yellow with the quickness if he thinks the player dived, especially when he intentionally dives on the ball

>>5841316
Yeah let's break the game up into 4 22 minute quarters

I thought you Americans wanted to make the sport less faggy? How is giving the best athletes in the world additional breaks that none of them are even asking for going to do that?

>>5841341
don't give me that slippery slope bullshit. That's a bullshit argument in every single instance that it is employed.

It's just that in America if you get carted off the field, you better be paralyzed or have something seriously broken. The one time this was broken (Paul Pierce in 2008 NBA Finals) in recent memory, people have shit on him for so much since then. People hold up signs saying "wheelchair Pierce" and such. In soccer they bring out the stretchers and the magic spray for just about anything. There's no shame in falling down and crying and needing to be taken off and then 5 minutes later you're OK.

People aren't going to stop by appealing to their manhood, not like in American sports. There needs to be some kind of penalty to stop people from diving/crying and ruining the game. I don't think that anyone disputes this, so why not try some ideas out and fix it. The referee can't do everything, so why not have an eye in the sky?

>>5841339
no, it's paranoia. New fans have no idea how easy it is to lose your balance when you're running with the ball trying to dodge opponents. They just see contact that's less than an NFL tackle and assume it's a dive.

>the 4th official had the tv screen he could watch all challanged etc as they happen far better than the ref could

>and he should then be able to tell the ref, foul/no foul

pretty much this, they already have headsets, just add a third assistant with a video screen, whenever the referee feels he needs a second opinion based on video evidence he just asks the video assistant, time lost: a few seconds

>>5841316
if a player cramps they shouldn't be on the field in the first place, they're obviously not fit enough for professional football

>>5840077
>fix soccer

you don't even name it the right way

>>5841407
it's not: if coaches could challenge a call where the ball has gone dead (goal, offside, free kick, whatever) then why would that not result in pressure to allow challenges on actions the referee did not spot when the ball eventually goes dead? and once that is introduced the game will HAVE to start stopping and the prized flow has been sacrificed for something that isn't even that big of a deal (diving is but poor calls are relatively rare)

>>5841415
THIS

American athletes don't dive, because the fans immediately question their manhood and make fun of them. Somehow Italians, who practically invented machismo play like they put their balls into their manpurses before every match and their fans don't call them on it.

The fans are the problem with the sport really.

>>5841444
It's funny, in a sport where falling down has some kind of penalty (the play ends), guys can get run into (while they're making some kind of complicated/off balancing move) at full speed by 250 lb men, who run 4.5 40s and still somehow keep their feet.

Yet in a sport where falling down gets a reward (a free kick, sometimes the guy gets booked), a guy gets get tapped or lightly shoved and he falls down like he's been shot and rolls around holding his leg/face for awhile just to catch his breath.

Personally I believe soccer players are good athletes (maybe I'm wrong), but if the sport didn't reward falling down and crying, maybe they'd stop doing it.

>>5841532

who's going to pressure for that? And why would FIFA be forced to succumb to such pressure?

>>5841404

You need to see that in american fatball the ball is played about 11 minutes out of 3 hours. So running, moving and playing 45 minutes without some brake for commercials and half nude underage girls cheering is a very strange idea for the average american. It's almost like some weird communist faggotry to them.

idiot. go suck a dick.

wh u not let robots play the game.

SOCCER IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL GAME, WE DON'T NEED AMERICUNTS HELP, OUR SPORT IS THE BEST

ITT: Americans who don't understand football

It's amazing how the same copypasta can be posted virtually everyday and still gets 50+ responses.

>>5841542
italians?
machismo?

has the definition of that word changed?

the eyties are the biggest pansies in europe

they make teh french look hard

>>5841542
That's because they are playing better, faster, stronger, etc. Of course you are gonna dive after running fast and getting intercepted. Fucking Americans and their shitty sports.

>>5841542
>>5841415
>implying different nations will have the same conception of masculinity
and seriously, you underestimate how easy it is to fall at speed from slight contact or changing direction too fast. a pro football pitch is watered heavily before the game these days, so it really can be very difficult to stay on your feet.

obviously diving is a real problem but the fact that there are dives makes you see what could easily be innocent slips through that lens.

1. half time performers
2. game stops everytime someone makes a foul
3. constant time outs
4. players get 3 minutes to think what to do before every corner and freekick
5. reduce play time to 60 minutes
6. make the field twice smaller
7. make the ball bigger
8. make the goal bigger

fucking fixd

>>5841623

>USA has subpar soccer team
>styles on world cup anyway given expectations
>offer constructive suggestions to improve sport
>u mad

>>5841577

go watch some games and compare what the footballers are doing to what running backs/receivers do with the ball, then tell me it's as easy to put the american footballers off balance or disturb them enough for them to lose control of the ball.

If you really believe that, then you need to actually go play some football to find out.

>>5841532
Because the governing body just says 'NO'. This isn't rocket science here. There are certain calls that are not reviewable in American Football, and will never be reviewable in American Football. Nobody is even pressuring for them to be reviewable, because it's just not going to happen. You think coaches can challenge for missed holding calls every down? No, they can't. Saying that soccer will degenerate somehow if they attempt to fix it at all is just a stupid argument.

>>5841693
>qualify from group with two draws and a win
>style

>>5841641
>better faster stronger
Please, show me soccer players who are faster/stronger than NFL players. Seriously. Ray Lewis would break any soccer player in half and he's washed up. An NFL wide receiver or defensive back is faster than any soccer player and stronger than probably 99% of them.

>>5841688

You forgot to make 30 people playable

>>5841767

>theo walcott

>>5841715
American football is played on artificial grass

Football is played on heavily watered real grass, it's far slippier

>>5837731

This is truth.

>>5841706
So in a sport where the goal is to drag/knock a man to the ground, people have a better time staying upright than in a sport where that is a foul.

Really. Why do you believe that the tiny taps that a soccer player takes are somehow more offbalancing than having a giant man using all his strength to pull you to the ground.

I don't get why most Euros have such a hard time accepting the shortcomings of your game. In America, we realize that our games can be improved and the rules are changed/tweaked every couple years to try and make things better. Why won't you at least try to do the same?

>>5841767
>Reggie Bush clocked at 22mph running in-game
>Cristiano Ronaldo clocked at 21.3mph...with the ball

Americans confirmed for inferior athletes.

>>5841807

what? pro tip most of us hate dome faggot teams.

>>5841807
Very few US football stadiums use artificial turf. Like, 2 I think.

I like how soccer has no commercial breaks, unlike the nfl where theres a commercial break after each play. my suggestion to improving the game would be to add one or two more referees, to keep a closer look against diving and the likes.

>>5841884
you realize you just posted something that proved that American athletes are actually faster right?

In America, when we want to make fun of a team for flopping, we call them soccer players.

Like the big joke a few years ago was that the Spurs were "two more dives away from qualifying for the World Cup". Of course they were led by a bevy of non-Americans!

Why are you guys OK with this? Even the dimmest of you all know that your sport is synonymous with childish play-acting. Why don't you take steps to fix it?

>>5841767
Now compare the things the top players of each game do.

Handegg, nigga get tha ball, nigga run like hell until someone stops him, repeat
Football, continuous passing that requires technique with the objective to score

>>5841693
More like annoyed. You Americans THINK you are the "cool dude" of the world while the rest of the world thinks you are that obnoxious little brother who everyone wants to push down the stairs.

>>5840077
>4. Clock. Tie the official game clock to the one in the refs hands. Fuck this 'when will the whistle blow?' bullshit. Everyone should know when he's stopped the clock and hasn't, and how much fucking time is left. The ref obviously just waiting until after a corner to blow the whistle, or conversely fucking a team by blowing it quickly to end a game before a free kick opportunity is bullshit.

first 3 were "ok" but then this is retarded. you obviously don't understand the clock. the ref upstairs determines how much time was "stopped" during fouls, out of bounds, and goals, and adds "injury time" to the end of the game to make up for those stoppage of play.

as for the "ref stops time when he wants", a ref is first and foremost supposed to be unbiased (tough in the world cup but thats why a german ref doesn't ref a german game). he isn't allowed to stop the clock during a goal scoring opportunity, if the ball is near the penalty box with the offensive player attacking, they'll let the play finish, as soon as it goes out of bounds or is cleared, they'll stop the game. it'd be the equivalent of american football where if the ball is snapped before the clock expires, the play finishes.

>>5841968
Not only does he probably not realize that, he completely fails to realize how much slower a player is HOLDING A FOOTBALL as compared to the speed they can pick up by using their arms. He probably honestly thinks that dribbling a soccer ball slows you down more than holding a football.

It would be hilarious if he didn't actually believe it.

>>5841866
Seriously. American football, and even rugby show how difficult it can be to bring someone down who is trying to maintain balance despite running full speed. Yet soccerfags persist in thinking that someone tugging their jersey top slightly is enough to 'offbalance' them and that the resulting dive to the ground is perfectly legitimate.

>>5841997
>obnoxious little brother who everyone wants to push down the stairs but are afraid to for fear of the righteous ass-kicking that will ensue

Fixed

>>5841968
you realise it's harder to run with the ball than without it, right?

you also realise both those times are probably for top speed at a point rather than average over a distance (thus giving the advantage to an NFL player who is likely to require better acceleration), right?

>>5841866

a running back is just running forward, with the ball tucked in his hands and his only goal is to charge through anything that hits him. Most hits are in the upper body. He can move his feet in simple steps forward, increasing his stability. He's also heavily shielded.

A footballer has the ball at his feet, has to play it with his feet every few steps so as to not lose it, and has to deal with people making contact with his legs. He's wearing no protective clothing except for shinguards.

If you don't see the insane difference that this makes to the difficulty in keeping your balance, you're a retard.

I'm not saying there's no diving in football, i'm just saying the american attitude of HURR HE WENT DOWN IT'S A DIVE! the moment anybody hits the grass is based on ignorance.

>>5841996
>implying soccer has more technique than football.

>>5842076
U MAD AMERICA?

Well done OP, made me rage, you would completely americanize our sport, the only thing you forgot were the cheerleaders

10/10 would rage again

>>5841996
Which is why soccer runs actual plays instead of "kick the ball into a mass of people and hope one of our guys gets their head on it" and football is just guys running around with a ball.

Oh wait. That's completely opposite. Football players have giant playbooks with many different formations, sub-formations to master because they actually RUN PLAYS.

Are you just trolling or are you really this stupid?

>OP makes a few suggestions that have already been voiced by many non-americans.
>idiots say the improvements are stupid because they like how fucked up the sport is and because OP is amerifag.

>>5842044

try dribling a ball like cristiano ronaldo at top speed, then hold a handegg and run at top speed, see wich is faster

>>5842110
>implying using your legs to control something is easier than using your hands

takes much more skill/technique to play football

shit, most of your players just learn plays and the right stance to adopt

>>5842099
THIS. MOTHERFUCKING THIS A MILLION TIMES.

American here, ashamed the rest of America doesn't know how to football.

>>5841997
>younger brother that outdoes his elder sisters in everything attempted.

I got ur back. Story of America.

>no technique or strategy

Sorry, we're not going to change our sport to appease your needs.

>>5842120
the more stoppages in play you get the more complex play becomes, which is why soccer players have more technique while handegg players require more memorization. So you tell me what takes more skill being able to dribble past 3 players or memorizing where to go for 3 seconds.

>>5842099
Sorry to disappoint bruh but almost every American has played soccer in a league at some point in their lives. I can guarantee everyone has played at least once in gym class. We understand the game but we don't appreciate it.

>>5842099
>implying there is no intimidation factor when a running back knows there will be no penalty if a 240lb lineback drills his ass into oblivion.

soccer is so gay

>>5842256
>implying anyone said american football had no strategy
>implying that picture proves that american football requires technique
>implying more strategy = better game
>implying go > chess
>implying go > american football

>>5842256
>technique and strategy
offense
>see that nigger? throw the ball to him and make him run like he mad
deffence
>see that nigger? tackle him like you mad

>>5842141
I've played both sports. In America, football is a fall sport and soccer is a winter sport. I was a wideout in football so I had the ball in my hands a fair amount of time. Holding a football slows you down CONSIDERABLY more than dribbling a soccer ball. Like it's not even a question. Which is why at the NFL combine they will likely change the 40 yard dash within the next few years because the times are meaningless because the runners aren't holding anything.

>>5842405
Why must you prove the statement that we Americans are stupid??!!! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
STOP IT!

The only thing that needs fixing is this fucking diving bullshit

>>5842131

Yes and where did those non-americans get their ideas...?

>>5842435
>Holding a football slows you down CONSIDERABLY more than dribbling a soccer ball
>implying this is true
>implying they don't still pump both arms while running
>implying that wouldn't mean any of them would win the 100m hands-down without even having to take time off from their real job

>>5842363
The one where all 11 people on the field have to do something exactly right, including blocking, running and the element of deception. Not the one where small men dribble the ball and the best "play" they run is where they just kick it into a crowd and hope something good happens.

>>5842435
I question that.

football is constantly evolving.

They should make the point of soccer to score on your own net. That would be more entertaining. Or better yet switch which goal you have to kick it in every 5 minutes.

>>5842557

it's the players that are regressing!

>>5842535
>all 11 people on the field have to do something exactly right, including blocking, running and the element of deception

ah so you prefer football then?

>>5842532
>implying that you have a damn idea what you're talking about
>implying that you've even seen an american football in real life
>implying that if you tried to play american football, you wouldn't actually need a stretcher because you'd be pulverized in 3 minutes.

lol small euros are small

>>5842435

>Holding a football slows you down CONSIDERABLY more than dribbling a soccer ball.

wtfamireading.jpg

>>5842596
Yes, I hate soccer.

>>5842483

You sound really familiar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyHCs7Fcs34&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cF4-rI_LjU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq1QlijI9Fc&feature=related

most of you would probably say these were all dives without seing replays

face it: theres nothing wrong with the game - you are wrong

>>5842405

that's like saying i understand the intricacies of american football because i played it on the beach that one time when i was drunk.

Playing on a team where the coach is somebody's dad, or in gym class where you dedicate all of three classes to it, does not give you an understanding of how difficult it is to play at a high level.

>>5842435

Here's the main difference between Americans and the Europeans posting in your thread.

In America we've all played soccer. It's a sport that almost all children are forced into playing under the guise that it's good exercise and builds character or some shit. Invariably the kids who are actually good at it (i.e. the better athletes) are generally encouraged to play real sports like basketball, football, etc.

But you Europeans have never played real football. Most of you have never even seen it played in person. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, which makes it funny when you try to argue about it.

>>5842435
>soccer is a winter sport
Obvious troll detected.

Lot of trolled people ITT

>>5842535
>>5842535
you can't keep making the main argument to why one sport is more skilled than the other based on organization. in football the ball stops allowing each person to regroup on both teams for 40 seconds in soccer its continual movement and pace with the ball. If you let soccer players huddle up to take a set piece in under 40 seconds you would have your "blocking, running and the element of deception"

>>5840077

Soccer needs more substitutions so that coaches can configure player match-ups and also so they can get fresh players out and create more scoring chances.

inb4, soccer is gay. I know it is.

>>5842748

Y'all niggas ....

what's the point

>>5842710
America's coach has his son on the team. Your argument is invalid.

>>5842721
>>5842620
>>5842542

It's true. Jerry Rice (the best wide receiver ever and maybe the best football player ever) ran a very slow 40 time at the combine. Something like a 4.6 40. In the NFL these days, that would kill your draft stock. Yet somehow when he was on the field he still seemed pretty fast.

It turns out that Rice was one of the rare people who could actually come somewhat close to his top speed while holding a football in his arms. Most receivers are slowed considerably knocking their 4.2s down to his 4.6.

>>5842617
>implying i don't own an american football

well fun to throw around in the park, bro

but it's honestly FAR harder to dribble at pace than to run at pace carrying a "football". rugby ball is bigger and harder to hold onto.

>>5842812
Which is why teams run interesting plays off of corner kicks. Oh wait, 90% of the time they just kick it into a crowd and hope something good happens.
Try again.

>>5842812
Bruh, freekicks, corner kicks and throwins often take several minutes to restart play. In American football you have 35 seconds.

>>5842510

Diving will never be fixed by normal means, it's a cultural thing that has grown in to proffesional football like a cancer, because in a sense it's a good tactic
You embellish the foul made on you and the referee is more likely to take notice, providing free-kicks and cards for the opponent
This will never be taken out of football

The thing that bugs me about this list OP has made is that it assumes that anybody lying on the ground for any amount of time is faking or embellishing his hurt
By forcing subs if somebody stays down to long you get players playing with injuries because they don't want to be subbed and the quality of play, you take down your best player for a lesser one, goes down plus you have to waste time because subbing in and out players is only allowed 3 times so to it with injuries would require good goverenment, further taxing the referees, keeping them from their main job, watching play for fouls and infractions

What are some soccer player's 100 times? Jeff Demps plays college football and ran sub 10 in high school.

>>5842997
>make an argument that agrees with everything that i just said

>>5843045
lol 0/10

>>5843045
35 seconds stops every minute