The War of American Aggression.

Yes they do.

They don't teach hardly ANY history in American schools because they want us all to be unthinking idiots for maximum exploitation.

>>4183732
This sentence hurt my brain

>>4183732
what are you talking about? i had to sit in history class and takes tests and all sorts of shit it was hard

>>4183741
I guess that makes you brainhurt, then.

>>4183746
Yeah, but they leave a bunch of stuff out and dumb down the rest.

...or because it is not as important in British history as it is in American history. Derp.

>>4183753

Don't fatmericans have full on subjects dedicated to American history?

We study it, but not in as great of detail since we study a lot of shit in history.

>my­ ­­face when history class consisted of boring shit and wasn't entirely about World War II

>>4183767
(Kids running out of the school to celebrate the start of summer)
"WAIT! You still have to learn how World War II ended!"
(They all turn around)
"...WE WON!!"
"YAAAAAAAY! USA! USA! USA!"

No we just know about it and don't give a shit about your tiny victory, we had the rest of the world to run.

In History we are normally taught ancient history till we are 12.

Then medieval Britain, 1066 and all that.

Then discovering America and all that jazz.

Then WW1

Then WW2

Then Russia Depth Study 1906-1968

Vietnam Fail

Then America Depth Study 1906-1968

Korea Fail

Nuclear Britain

Cuban Missile Crisis

(all of this in amazing chronological order)

We pretty much learnt how shit America was at everything.

That was over a 3 year period, I dropped history in favour of politics after that.

>>4183754
>losing most important colony in the empire
>triggered other colonies (like India) to also rebel
Yeah, not important at all.

>>4183767
i nearly reported you but I couldn't get over how right you are so I didn't

>>4183808

Yeah cause they where directly related weren't they, the few hundred year gap was just the indians getting their act together.

>currently have to bail out other Euro countries like Greece just to compete with a former colony economically

>not an important loss

oh_wow.jpg

>>4183790

Yeah, shit at beating you in 2 straight wars. And then saving your ass in 2 more.

America History - 500 years

British History - A few years more.

>>4183825

>Implying America didnt come in late to both wars and take full credit for helping out.

>>4183808
It was important no doubt. But you have to understand that to a Brit, history goes farther back than a few hundred years. We North Americans do not have nearly as long a history.

Also, inspired India...are you a fucking idiot? Way to not learn anything beyond your own country

>>4183832
>Don't police the world-too late

>Police the world-assholes

lol

Anyone but Russia taking credit for WWII.

>>4183836
>to a Brit, history goes farther back than a few hundred years
fair enough. In the US we pretty much ignore 300 bc - 1500 ad until high school. Even then, all we talk about is the Roman and Greek empires. You have to choose to take elective courses to learn about charlamagne, the norman invasion of britain, the mongol invasion and things of this nature.

>>4183825

>Beat you

Sorry, I was under the impression it was a joint operation when Europe was invaded, guess they don't teach that in American public schools along with almost everything else

They do. I think I still have a DVD I bought when I was learning it.

They even teach 9/11 in History now.

>>4183732
>American Historians Assosciation
>Largest Historian organization in the World

Problem, Europe?

>>4183790
>Cuban Missile Crisis
>We pretty much learnt how shit America was at everything
>Implying America was shit in the Cuban Missle Crisis

I would absolutely argue the opposite of that. Way to listen, kid. After being manhandled in Vienna, Kennedy showed Kruschev he wasn't going to put up with his crap, while doing it peacefully and avoiding confrontation in Berlin.

>>4183904
well done a country with a population of some 500 million and well funded research has a lot of historians, what do you want a medal? thats like canada bragging about all their snow

>>4183851
Most of history is rather useless to people. This comes from a Historian. Unless it's used in a way to broaden someone's mind, why give a shit? If you don't care about the Maruyama invasions, why get taught about it?

Now, if you can link historical events to things people encounter in their modern lives, or use Historical methodology to increase a person's ability to comprehend and form rational decisions, then great.

Hacks who teach High School history are never qualified to do that, though. Text books = evil

>>4183851

this

My high school only offered 3 history/social studies classes, State History, Pre-Civil War, and Post-Civil War.

Shit wasn't cash man.

>>4183918
>500 million
307,006,550 - Jul 2009

Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Population Division

>and well funded research
Yeah, that's why I'm working as a Historian, not in finances.[/sarcasm]

>do you want a medal?
I have a medal, actually. Phi Alpha Theta honors medal. :D

>>4183918
weather =/= human capital and prestigious cultural associations

>>4183918

>population of some 500 million

>>4183934
Best Universities in the world, also. Don't forget about that.

>>4183920

>Hacks who teach High School history are never qualified to do that, though.

Of fuckin course, those fuckers are too busy coaching a sport to care about the needs of a student.

>>4183958
Or worrying about their evening shift at Applebees. Jesus christ, why doesn't the US fund High School?!

>>4183951

Congrats, shame 0.01% of your population will ever get into one. Sort out your public schools then we'll talk

>>4183964
Do they really need to go to one?

Also, I don't trust your math. Your first estimate was off by 200 million. No wonder you didn't score 100 on the infrastructure test.

>>4183964

>Implying I didn't graduate from a public school with 2% going directly into ivy league schools as undergrads.

>Eurofags
>still getting trolled by Bradysknee

eurofags, I am disapoint

>>4183984
>Implying I also didn't go to Public school.

But then I went to school in RI, not Florida. The kids I taught in Florida that came from their public schools were a step above retarded. It was a dirty shame.

American public schools are sucking, though. Fuck the US for that. Education should be paramount. That's why we don't have a fucking space shuttle anymore.

>>4183951

UKs top 20 alone beat yours lol

MIT is the only American university I envy simply for the science department.

>>4184001
Uh huh. So 500 million population, 0.01% of it go to the University level, and European Universities beat American ones?

OH YOU SO MAD, IT'S CUTE!!!

>talking about greatest schools in a history thread
People who go to college are pretty useless no matter where they go to college. An interest in history is great, but it's best used as a hobby like literature, philosophy and art. It's good as a minor but useless as a major unless you have something else.

>My visage when forced to learn about Irish history

>>4184009

Harvard vs Cambridge?

Don't see why harvard would be better and we have 20 more universities at cambridge level and more just below that.

>>UK is the size of florida. HURR

>>4184018
Common misconception. Historians get jobs in government positions (Politics, research institutes, even as analysts for agencies and departments), finances, and law. A BA in History is useless, but then many Bachelor degrees are becoming useless.

>>4184024
Potato famines?

British WWII Infrastructure

>>4184018
Ah, I see you're one of those simpletons who think all liberal arts(i.e. humanities) education is useless.

Have fun being a cubicle jockey for the rest of your life.

>>4184033
TOP 10 UNIVERSITIES 2009
Harvard University
Cambridge University
Yale University
University College London
Imperial College London
Oxford University
University of Chicago
Princeton University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
California Institute of Technology
Columbia University

And this is from the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/8295336.stm

>>4184037
Well that and then nearly 200 years of boring oppression from Britain. Then the shambles that was Ireland after gaining independence until they joined the EU and stole all that euro money.

>>4184034

>A BA in History is useless, but then many Bachelor degrees are becoming useless.

So would a BA in Poly Sci be useless too? Oh FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU...

>>4184041
Cubicle jockey indeed. My friends who got Bachelors of Business (whatever its called) are stuck either in cubicles, working as security guards, or the worst is working for Enterprise rent-a-car as the guy who drives out to deliver your car.

The degree doesn't make the person.

>>4184034
>Historians get jobs in government positions
Fairly useless positions and their degree does not help them do their job
>finances
lol no
>and law
lol no
>A BA in History is useless,
Yes, that is what I was talking about here. Advanced degrees in history are useless as well. A BA in history isn't bad if you go on to get an MBA, MPA or JD though. However, the history degree doesn't help them do those jobs.
>many Bachelor degrees are becoming useless.
Yes, that is why I lumped history degrees in with philosophy and literature.

>>4184047

May I again point you to the size of the UK?

Also it's well known most american courses are not as hard as European ones as the American final exam in high school is the equivalent of a GCSE which UK students do at 15/16

Every year my history class was the same:

Egypt shit
Roman shit
Dark ages
American revolution
Civil war
World war 2
Modern era, we so badass now

American history class sucks dicks. I didn't actually learn anything meaningful until i started researching shit myself.

>>4184068
Size matters not, those Universities are as old as all hell, but again that was from a British source, and the top 10 show a 6-4 US lead.

>>4184066
Get these figures from the 500 million people department? Or did you do the math and it came out to less than 1%?

>>4184068
At the High School level, maybe. There's a very good reason Europeans flock to American Universities.

Mardi Gras.

>>4184066
>Implying higher education = job training

>>4184066
May as well lump psychology and anthropology in with the useless BA degrees too

>>4184097
Also, implying a MA in History is useless when a MA in anything opens helladoors, unless you apply to some data entry firm. Oooh, nice cubicle.

>>4184099
Computer science, business management, mathematics, foreign languages, etc.

I can't think of a good job availible right now one could snag with a BA/BS.

>>4184099
i don't have a problem with that

>>4184105
useless is relative. a masters in history is one of the most useless masters degrees you can get. also, opening doors =/= helping you contribute to society

>>4184097
>i never went to college

>>4184126
Opinion, not fact. A MA in History is absolutely useful. Simply denying it doesn't reinforce your point. The degree itself showcases a masters-level of analytical skills and ability to write. Considering many higher-level jobs require deep thinking and the capacity to present them both in text and through presentation, I don't see how you can stick to the 'LIBERAL ARTS MAs ARE USELESS'.

How 'bout them Bruins?

>>4184115
That's because there aren't many jobs available right now for anyone. All of those degrees are in higher demand than history is though.

>>4184153

They're losing to the Sabres tonight right, and then an other 3 times after that.

>>4184159
Very wrong, the economy is depending on finances and they're looking for advisors, paraplanners, etc., with a variety of degrees. You don't need a degree in finances to get these jobs, while it helps, a paraplanner job works entirely on research. Liberal Arts = Research.

>>4184153
>The degree itself showcases a masters-level of analytical skills and ability to write.
I replied to this in my post. Are yo illiterate? ANY masters degree shows this regardless of the field. Having the field be history adds nothing to this.

>>4184191
Point is that you would be far better qualified for such a job by getting an MBA, MPA, or MA in economics
>Liberal Arts = Research.
Liberal arts research, and especially history, is among the least quantitative field which makes it the least relevant to the job. Also, knowing history won't actually help you do your job at all. You might as well get a masters in music performance because it takes a lot of hard work and job X requires a lot of hard work therefore this degree is perfect.

Sorry if you have delusions about the value of the degree you're targeting but I have other stuff to do. Good luck.

>people arguing over college degrees on 4-chan

>>4184241
you get your GED yet?

>>4184250
What about you?