American here ill answer stuff i guess

>>18559075
So uh, it;s just running forward and dodge the defense, or is there some kind of tactic involved?

Alot of the strategy in the running game comes from the offensive line's blocking scheme.

The strategy from the passing game comes from the receiver's routes and how long they take to get open.

Need one for hockey.

>>18559102
There is tactic.
You choose who to play, where to run, whether to do a trick play, how far to throw it, etc. It can be running forward and dodging though.
Take this play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0jPMqDbTME

>>18559102
Yes there are tactics.Offensive Linemen (the fat guys) try to block people out of the way so your guy with the ball has an open space to run. There ae many different blocking schemes. Also there has to be plan if the offense is passing as to where the recievers will go. And then there is defense who has to come up with plans on how to counteract this stuff.

>>18559224
element of surprise

>>18559217
Aaaaah, I thought they were just like blockingn eachother and that that was their position

Also what are the punishments?

So I know all the basics and rules. What do I have to do to actually understand what the commentators are talking about and to analyse plays correctly?

>>18559224
Because then the defense would only guard against the pass, you have to have a decent mixture of both run and pass to keep the defense "honest"

>>18559224

You have to run so that the defense will sometimes play to stop the run. That opens it up and makes passing easier. If a team passed every play they'd get raped.

>>18559224

Running the ball wears down the defense, plus gives your offensive line to attack rather than absorb the rush. Plus, you also drain the clock faster.

The fat guys are not elligible receivers, right? So why bother with anything but screening them and why not defend in depth, since it seems as if only one or two guys actually run forward when attacking? You would swamp the field behind the LOS and pick em easily.

>>18559224
playing the same kind of play over and over again makes it more easy to defend against, you can get your corners to play tighter and your safeties to play back further making it harder to get open in the field

the opposite is true also, running to many times makes the linebackers blitz more and leaves less of the line gaps open

>>18559224
Because then the defense would know what you're going to do and shut down your passing game most likely. Also running has the tactical advantage of running down the clock and you're less likely to turnover the ball.

>Go for two
>One down from three yard line

How do flags work?

Why did they create the 'Hines Ward' Rule? I read about it being 'unfair' but when I have seen footage of what it seemed to prevent, it didn't seem out of the ordinary for a AmF game.

>>18559404
Refs throw a flag if a player does something illegal. That players team then usually loses some field position

>>18559316
um . . .
I think you mean that only a few recievers are open running routes at a time? When teams pass a lot this is exactly what defenses do, subbing in extra defensive backs to get more speed and better hands on the ball. But if they run you lack the power and the position to stop them. If they throw short you probably can't position well enough to get in the way in time.

Why are you guys always talking about goats, owls, and dragons...are you those people that have sex with animals?

Why is it scored so weird, why don't games finish 1-0, 3-2, 4-1, etc?

>>18559491
how did you forget bears

>>18559491
not sure if serious

>>18559598
see the flowchart

>>18559598
because there are different ways of scoring

there are ways of scoring 1 point, 2 points, 3 points, or 6 points at a time.

Why the tight pants?

>>18559598
To give different methods of scoring an adequate importance according to their difficulty. Touchdown is the hardest but most rewarding way, the field goal after a touchdown is the easiest and therefore nets you much less points.

>>18559703
because you're trying not to get tackled

>>18559703
hold the knee and thigh pads in place

>>18559598
Because it's obviously easier to score a field goal than a touchdown, so they shouldn't both be worth a point. The safety shouldn't be gamebreaking (especially since the scoring team gets the kickoff afterward), so only 2 points. The extra point can either be worth 1 or 2 for strategic reasons.

If adverts are so great then why don't you just have a channel with them exclusively and watch that?

In college, what does a "red shirt" mean. Like red shirt freshmen or something

What's the diffidence between
>Offside
>False Start
>Encroachment

>>18559598
Because there are different objectives, with varying degrees of difficulty, thus awarded with different point values.

1 point - FG after touchdown < this is pretty easy since they kick from just a few yards away
2 point - conversion after touchdown < this "only" involves carrying the ball for a yard, thus the work involved is relatively minor
3 point - field goal / (safety too, I think) < you have to carry the ball to kicking range. Usually about 40-50 yards.
6 point - touchdown < worst case you have to carry the ball for 100 yards... (usually 80)

>>18559788
red shirt is when that player practices with the team for a year, but isnt allowed to play. This is so they can learn and get better but they dont waste a year of eligibility practicing.

>>18559788
it means they get to work out and practice with the team for a year but not play, they get to keep that year of eligibility because in NCAA rules you only have 5 years of eligibility. sitting out that one year can really help them get a handle on college life before they get thrust into the starting job

>>18559807
offsides and encroachment are basically the same thing. called if the defense jumps over the line

false start is if the offense jumps over the line

>>18559788
It usually applies to incoming freshman and injured players. They get the year off and get better/healthy and retain their four years of eligibility.

That's why you see a lot of the top college teams be so stocked on talent. All the new guys take the first year off so the juniors/seniors play and get their time the following year.

>>18559267
>thought they were just blocking each other

>>18559868
>in NCAA rules you only have 5 years of eligibility
4

>>18559807
>Offsides
Someone on the defense is across the line of scrimmage when the ball was snapped.

>False start
Offensive linemen aren't supposed to move to bait a defensive player offsides, so if they move before the snap, its a false start

>Encroachment
A defensive player went offsides and make contact with an offensive player.

okay so i get that the fourth zone interference play is combutable with the 20 yard pressure zone during the 2nd down...but what i don't get is, why does the quarterback rally a webbed punt to the backing zone when he's already deep into the 3rd and 6th auto tail allowance.

If Mark Sanchez is a qb, why is positioned here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2iFLQqpDlI

>>18559882
>>18559882
Yeah Im european bro. American Football is even worse than, eh ill use the word soccer in your country. It gets no coverage at all. Only the superbowl will get a 1 minute wrapup on the evening news in most european countries.

Might have to do with the fact that most games are in the middle of the night in european timezones

>>18559807
Offside and encroachment are the same thing jsut depending on which player does it, it's a defensive penalty
false start is when the Offense jumps or crosses the line before the snap

>>18560068
wildcat

>>18560046
What is an interference play? What is a pressure and backing zone? What is a auto tail allowance? What is a webbed punt?

In what situation does a Quarterback do a "quick kick"?
Can you score that way? Is the offense allowed to catch quick kicks by the QB and pick up first downs and score

>>18560068
Its a offensive formation called the Wildcat where a halfback receives the snap directly and can either run, pass, or pitch the ball. Very unpredictable for defenses.

Why does it seem like there are so few non-white first string quarterbacks?

Why does anybody bother watching this sport for more than a few minutes? How do you keep watching it without being extremely bored?

>>18560144
I assume you're talking about a punt downfield to a receiver? Thats not kosher in the NFL or NCAA. Only in the CFL.

>>18560144
I wouldn't know when to call it but basically it keeps the team from being able to run the ball back well and gives them worse field position generally

Yurop here.
Can you tackle with your feet like in soccer?

If I was trying to bring somebody down from behind it would be easier to trip them up with a sliding tackle rather than pull them down with your arms.

What is a "safety" in terms of scoring points? How does it happen, and why is it so rare?

>>18560144
Naw, if you free-kick it the other team gets possession. If they touch it and don't keep possession the kicking team could recover.
>>18560182
More a cultural and athletic thing, black HS quarterbacks end up being converted to wide receiver or halfback or something because they're usually faster.

>>18560182
cause negroes are dumb, and QB is the most mentally challenging position

>>18560182
Race is a touchy issue. Maybe it's because white people more easily take over the role of being a leader, maybe it's just coincidence. As for other positions, black people are usually more built for the positions. WR's being like 6'5 and whatnot

>>18560182
Because all the black ones partake in dogfighting

What kind of shoes are the wearing?

>>18560144
Quick kicks are just punts, no you cannot score on a quick kick, unless the defense touches the ball

>>18560260
So the Qb can only throw a ball to the reciever? he can't kick it to them? I've never understood quick kicks and their use.

>>18560311
I see thanks mate

>>18560258
Offensive player downed in their own endzone. It's pretty rare, but it happens. Two points and then the defending team gets the ball back on a punted kick-off. Really good play because you get great field position from the kick since punts don't go as far as kickoffs. Maybe about once every couple weeks or every month, the Falcons got one as their only score in their playoff loss.

>>18560295

>>18560257
you could. it would be ineffective though. just fucking lay them out.

>>18560258
a safety is when you tackle an opposing player in their own end zone. You get two points AND the ball back. In every other scoring situation you have to give up the ball.

>>18560258
A safety is when you force the opponent to be downed inside their own endzone. It is worth two points, and it's rare because it's hard to get favorable field position as a kicking team in order to get a chance at getting one.

>>18560321
Exactly. A quarterback can throw or hand off the ball. In the CFL they can do a downfield kick to a receiver, but not in the NFL or NCAA.

>>18560258
It's when the offense is tackled down inside their own endzone. It's rare because it's difficult to do. When a team is pushed back that far, they usually just run the ball to get a little more breathing room without risking a sack

Could a punter smear the ball with vaseline prior to kicking in hopes of making the other team fumbler?

>>18560182
black players idolize black athletes
white players idolize white athletes

back when everyone was racist as hell everyone in the NFL was white, blacks got let in but no one thought they were smart enough to lead a team or be a QB. it would have been insulting to play on a team led by a negro back then, white players/fans would probably make a stink

since, historically, black players have all been great defensive players, RBs, WRs, etc. young black athletes tend to emulate them. So a young black kid who loves football is looking up to Jerry Rice and the white kid is looking up to Joe Montana. Does that make sense?

Anyone got any links to an idiot's guide or something. There seems to be a lot more rules than any other sport ever.

I have literally never seen a game before.

Since the kick-off change, I never understood why they choose to punt it when it's a safety. Yes, it's better hangtime and you get better coverage, but now its so close you can touchback it with ease.

>>18560377
>blames the fact that negroes are too dumb to play QB on white people

LOL

>>18560257
These are huge strong athletes. Ray Lewis tackles with force exceeding that of a police battering ram. Check these two videos out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH5sb320kaw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1CwwsWkQLU&feature=related

Tackling isn't just about taking them down, it's about hurting them and tiring them out. Get hit like that enough times in a game and you're not gonna play well by the end.

>>18560394
There are but its pretty intuitive once you start watching it. Try it out.

>>18560409
They don't choose, at least I don't think. I think it's a rule that you have to punt it.

>>18560409

you don't get to tee it on a free kick

I'm wondering, what are 'superbowl boards' and where do you buy them?

it says there are only 2 leagues but what about farm teams and everything

also what about canadian football? would the average cfl team lose to an ncaa team?

>>18560469
There are no farm teams. Players from college are drafted onto NFL teams

>>18560321
In all my years of watching football I have seen one quick kick ever and that was Brady's a few weeks back

It's almost never used.

I always thought it was a choice on whether to kick it or punt it...Ima look dis shit up

>>18560469
There are Arena Leagues and Indoor Leagues but they're really below minor league because the NFL basically uses the NCAA Div 1 as their farm system and trust that there are very few NFL ready players on any Arena or Indoor League team. Canada works so differently it's usually set apart for the past decade.

>>18560442
Sure. Will there be a yuro thread like there is an American thread for soccer games occasionally? It would be a huge help.

>>18560519
someone post the Doug flutie drop kick from a few years ago

>>18560469
There isn't a development team structure like baseball or anything. Its the NFL with their active roster as well as a "practice squad." Practice squads aren't quite good enough to make it onto the roster but are still employed by the team to practice against the team. They can be signed to the team if they need them. Below that its just the NCAA structure and high school stuff.

As to CFL vs NCAA, the CFL team would win. Its still professionals vs. amateurs.

Is there a set amout of player substitutions? Or can you just put whoever you want on the field, whenever you want?

>>18560554
From time to time for important games. I've seen it increasing in popularity this year.
>>18560598
>few years ago
>Flutie
He retired at least seven years ago if not many more.

>>18560080
Timezones are a big issue for me when I try to watch European football matches so I know your pain, in reverse.

>>18560598
That wasn't a quick kick, that was a drop kick.

>>18560554
During the playoffs there were a couple Euro threads where they could ask questions about what was going on. They were actually better than the real game threads that were just filled with

DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK
DAT SACK

and so on

>>18560622
You can't have more than 5 eligible receivers, 5 blockers and 1 person to take the snap. How you work that out is up to you I think but the defense gets to sub in the same amount of players that you've changed between plays, IIRC.

>>18560622
you can play who you want

but if you're doing this on defense, you have to make your subs and get set before the offense snaps the ball or be penalized

>>18560525
You can drop kick for a field goal attempt, which is basically punting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Jsz-fSNd4

In all other cases (kick-off to start game, after scoring, or punting on 4th down), you don't have a choice.

in the NFL, what is the ruling on getting a safety on a two point conversion try

like if the Giants went for 2 and Wilfork tackled Eli in his own endzone(eli was running away)

>>18560670
I know that's why I typed "drop kick"

>>18560741

I think you can score a conversion safety, but the likelihood is astonishingly small...

>>18560741
i'm pretty sure play is just dead. like when Tebow fumbled that snap against the patriots on the extra point

>>18560779
Nah you can't, you can in college though and you just gain those points

>>18560779
Lol.

But I don't think so if anyone is actually wondering. I think the conversion just fails. I think it's the same thing if you return an INT for a TD or something like that on a 2 pointer.

They changed the rule to where the defense cant score on a 2 point conversion. I have no idea why

>>18560822
It never was like that in the pros I don't think just college

>>18560741
Well if he's going for a two-point conversion that means they already scored a touchdown. Eli would have to run like 100 yards backwards for that to happen. And in the NFL, the defense can't score on an extra point attempt (like if they get intercepted on a 2 point conv. and the team runs it all the way back, the whistle will blow the play dead) I think the defense could score off an extra point attempt in college, though

>>18560759
well thanks for posting about irrelevant stuff then

So, we're having a Euro thread again, right?

Please?

I can't bear the spam.

>>18560873
Don't worry my friend.

Why is American Football called football when you don't even kick it around with your feet as you would European football?

>>18560741
That is a very special case.

The defending team would get 1 point (compared to the normal 2 points for safeties), but the offense would still kick off next, as they just got a touchdown.

>>18560873
as long as it's made after the actual game thread so the spammers don't flock to it immediately. It has to be made under the radar

>>18560858
don't get mad because you have poor reading comprehension. someone asked about QBs kicking the ball, and if they could score on those plays.

>>18560933

Because it evolved from Rugby football.

>>18560933
Because it was originally adapted from rugby football. It would be more accurate to call the sport "gridiron"

What's the difference between a strong safety and a free safety?

>>18560947
>720 SAT reading
you're right though - I'm definitely the one with the reading comprehension issue

>>18560936
Nope, you got it wrong.

A one point "safety" occurs when the offense loses posession of the ball in the OPPONENT'S endzone, then the defense gains control and downs it in their own endzone. The OFFENSE would then gain 1 point, as if they just kicked a PAT.

It's a very fucked up rule.

>>18561037
Depends which side of the field they play usually. A strong safety also tends to play more towards the line while a free safety is more commonly dropping back to be the last line of defense.

>>18561037
I don't think it's anything officially. But usually the strong safety is the one that comes up and joins the linebackers coming closer to the line of scrimmage and the free safety usually backs of and stays in coverage to make sure a receiver is covered upfield

What's the difference between halfback and fullback? I feel like fullbacks are usually bigger, but I don't know why/what they do differently

>>18560933
Because all sports that evolved from codes of football were called football because they were played on foot rather than by horse

>>18561037
The strong safety plays on the strong side, and usually helps in run defense. Almost like a smaller, faster linebacker.

The free safety is the last line of the defense against plays. He makes sure no receiver gets behind him and aids cornerbacks in coverage.

>>18560457
Bumping this

>>18561094
But, I've seen endzone interceptions where the interceptor gets tackled down in the endzone and no one scored.

>>18561178
That's pretty much it. They're bigger, stronger and slower. They've mostly disappeared from the game. Back in the day, they were legitimate offensive weapons. If they're ever in the game nowadays, they're almost exclusively used to block.

>>18561178

Because there is variation in the running game. Halfbacks slotbacks, fullbacks.

FB is blocking, up middle grinding, sometimes screens
RB is outside runs, inside runs, screens, trick plays
SB situational

By the way I probably just mislead you some, but that is what they say, the 'geist' of how it works out practically.

>>18561178
fullbacks are usually bigger, they usually block for the halfback
halfbacks or tailbacks stay behind them and follow their blocks usually

This comes from an offensive lineup called the "Power I" where the quarterback, then fullback, then tailback form an I. It's a heavy running scheme

>>18561207
I don't even know what a super bowl board is. You mean like a forum?

>>18561207
>>18560457
yeah I noticed nobody answered that
probably because nobody has ever heard of whatever it is you're talking about

>>18561178
Halfbacks will almost always be the person that the Quarterback hands the ball off to.

The Fullback's main job is to block for the Quarter back and Halfback. Very rarely he will get handoffs or receive a pass, but it happens.

So, what can't you do? What kind of hits are illegal?

Also I saw someone mention eligible receivers, what's that mean?
Can you set up your guys for the snap any way you want? Seems like it could be easy to break the game if you made up your entire offense of ginormous strongmen and walked the ball down the field at a leisurely pace in a tortoise formation.

>>18561234
>geist

How do fantasy team work. Seriously, how do you make up a team and have that team win against another made up team? Shit makes no sense.

>>18561377
their individual stats earn you a certain number of points

not sure how much more in depth I need to get
seems extremely basic/elementary/obvious to me

>>18561312
Helmet to helmet hits and hits on defenseless recievers are illegal. Hits on a kicker/punter are illegal as well. Offensive lineman aren't eligible recievers, unless noted otherwise. And the ginormous strongmen thing would work if the defenses weren't littered with ginormous strongmen as well.

>>18561377
You select players and based on how well they do in the actual NFL you score points. Each week you pick which players to field.

So if you have two RBs, say, Ray Rice and Ryan Matthews you choose between the two depending on who you think will do better that week.

>>18561312

Elligible recievers are basically anyone not working on the offensive line.

It's not a big deal that they cant pass to them, but it's in place BECAUSE truly the defense is supposed to avoid those big assholes. It would be a broken game mechanic if the quarterback could scramble and throw the ball to a big guy that the other defensive linemen all just hurried the fuck away from.

plus you wouldnt want to throw to them. They'd wear out faster, aint really going to be able to get the ball very fast up field, and don't need to waste time training to be ball handlers ya know

*shrug*

>>18561377
There's fantasy soccer too (and baseball, basketball, hockey, golf, etc). Basically certain actions like yardage, scoring, etc give you points and you beat your opponent by getting more than him.

>>18560457
If it's what I think you're talking about, it's a betting system where there is a 10x10 square grid, with each square having an X and Y value (each numbered 0-9). People gambling buy random squares, each with an X-Y value (for example, 3-7).

The X value stands for one team, and the Y for the other team. The goal is for the last digit of the teams score to be your number. For the example number, if the final score is Team X 13, Team Y 27, you won. It doesn't matter which team actually wins the game.

And you don't buy them, you make them on paper/whiteboard.

>>18561268
>>18561263
Fuck sorry, think it was superbowl square

>>18561449
That makes sense.

Is there a women's NFL?

>>18561263
what? this is obvious, those are the pre-made little white boards with the 10x10 grids so that you can run a homemade betting pool with the other people at your party (only the ones that buy in of course) where winners are decided by the ones-place digit of BOTH teams after EACH quarter. the entire pool money is usually split between the 4 quarters though because the "house" taking a cut is usually seen as a dick move, the whole point is to provide something entertaining on top of the game (and give casuals a reason to track the score) not just to make profit.

>>18561377
Offensive players get you points based on how many yds they go/touchdowns they score. Qb's are scored based on how many yds they throw for/how many passing touchdowns they had. Defenses are scored based on how few points they allow during a game and get more points for sacks/interceptions/forced fumbles/etc. Kickers get points for how long the field goals are/how many extra points they make or in the rare case like David Akers did for me touchdowns they throw during a fake FG.

>>18561414

You pick a bunch of players you think will get the best stats in the season and whoever has the best combined stats for their fantasy team wins? So it's all theory? This imaginary team could theoretically be awful?

>>18561443
>>18561457

>>18561414
so if my team is 11 quarterbacks that's good?

>>18561272
Here's a good example of a fullback who is actually utilized for the Yuros

Mike Tolbert for the San Diego Chargers, dude is beastmode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeurG53N6KM

Ignore the shitty metallica music it's the only highlight video I found that was good>>18561530

>>18561533
You have to start a player at every position I think.

>>18561533
Depending on your league you can only have 1 or 2 QB's in at a time. They have set positions you have to fill

>>18561377
You draft a team from a pool of all the eligible players in the NFL. Typically defenses are drafted as a whole (i.e. "I'm drafting the Jets defense), and you can draft QBs, WRs, running backs, TEs and kickers on the offensive side. You are then matched up each week against someone else in your league; your teams earn points based on the performances of your players (more passing yards/tds for your QB = more points for you etc.). The one who ends up with the most points wins.

>>18561556
Sorry, didn't mean to quote that post at the end.

>>18561495
Not a women's NFL, but there are amateur female teams. Plus the Lingerie Bowl, which has evolved into it's own Lingerie Football League

>>18561530
It's not really theory. I mean, you're picking guys who will probably perform. Like in the top of the league in their positions and such. But yeah, if they suck then you're fucked.

>>18561495
There's lingerie football league which is probably pretty insulting to women in itself. Basically no one would watch women play football unless they're good looking and wear skimpy outfits.

>>18561662

Idk, there's a couple girls on this LA team that can ball no joke

>>18561585
also note that drafting players means that everyone cant have tom brady, you take turns in several rounds and pick players for one FF spot at a time until your roster is filled out, so obviously some picks will look better than others on your roster due to getting them in earlier rounds because they were a priority.

you can pick up undrafted players later in the season though if theyre still available, which adds a new level of competition for trying to monitor mid-tier performers that start stepping up and getting more points

>>18561495

Not one of any size. I remember doing a PR project for a local women's football team that was a part of a league, but they werent big.

Those girls were kind of hot though. Some of them. Those big, slightly stocky girls that look like tomboys but not derp faced

I dont see anyone supporting seeing a woman get clotheslined in the air and carried off the field in a golf cart

>>18561530
Well, I suppose it could be. Your player could get injured, outright play terribly, or you could take a chance on a rookie player and they either suck or don't get much playing time.

It's pretty hard to draft a fantasy team that completely sucks though. It's all about playing the matchups though. If you have two runningbacks and one of them is playing the top run defense in the league, you'll probably want to start the other runningback

>>18561709
fyi tom brady was drafted in the 6th round and even thought he wasn't gonna get picked at all

>>18561530
fantasy points are very different from actual on-field play in some cases

Kyle Orton is dogshit but he consistently put up great fantasy points

One topic that hasnt been discussed in this thread is onside kicks. When you score any kind of points or are kicking off to begin a half or the game, you can choose to TRY and kick the ball to yourself, so you get the ball instead of the other team. The ball must go 10 yards before being touched by anyone on your team. The other team can recover the ball at anytime. After the 10 yards, your team can either catch ( if the ball has been kicked up into the air) or recover the ball on the ground.
Also, you can fake field goals and punts to try and surprise the other team and get a first down or TD.

>>18561728
>tfw one of your RBs is injured
>tfw the other is playing the $(ers this week
welp, time for under 100 yards and no TDs

>>18561761
Talking about fantasy football drafts, not the real draft

>>18561772
cam newton was a great fantasy QB this season
he couldnt save that team by himself though, way too many picks

>>18561761
While we're on the subject of drafting. How does that work? Both Fantasy and real. The first round draft pick is always a big deal? Why? How do you know these new players will step up? Also do players have contracts? Once a players get drafted, do they stick with that team for however long? etc

>>18561776
Also, the kicking team can recover the ball before it goes 10 yards IF the receiving team touches it first

>>18561844
you don't know.

that's the magic

Let's say you're in the last two minutes of a game, and the offense it driving to win with no timeouts. A wide receiver gets the ball, but can't get to the sideline to stop the clock. What if he throws the ball out of bounds?

Possession would stay with the offense, yes? Does the clock stop, or would it keep going?

>>18561844
For fantasy there's different settings that you can do. The leagues I've played in do a snake draft though where it flips the order after the first round (randomly generated).

>>18561895

That never happens because it's a penalty

Are you allowed to intentionally fumble? like if someone tackles you and you bounce it off the ground to a teammate ahead of you?

>>18561887
How was Tom Brady 6th round pick? I thought he was Patriots QB? Did they just let him out then decide to pick him up again because they were bored.

Just bet on the Giants.
1. Who do I want to have the handeggs and run across the field most? Is it Brady? Is he the one I want to have the handeggs.
2. Am I out $200

>>18561933
Holy roller made that illegal (but not if you are a sneaky bastard)

>>18561933
you dont want to do that
you can throw a lateral throw legally at any time (a ball to the left or right, or backwards)
fumbling is much more dangerous

>>18561895

More likely he'd try to throw a lateral pass. You almost never see those outside of late game desperation plays.

>>18561844
did you ever play pickup games team sports as a kid? its sort of like that, once everybody who's gonna play is gathered, the team captains take turns picking guys for their team until either everyone has been picked, or the teams are already full.

except in this case, there are 32 teams and a lot more players to choose from, as well as a limited total number of rounds to pick.

>>18561948
No, he was picked in the 6th round of the draft out of collage by the Patriots. That's what made him the Pats QB a while back.

>>18561844

the first round is important because youve seen the college players perform in college and you hope they will perform well in the NFL

also, the worst teams of last season get to pick first to try and get balance

when players are drafted, they negotiate a contract, usually players get contracts for about 2-4 years so the team can evaluate them well

statistically though, not very many first round picks play much in their first year or 2

>>18561933
as long as you throw it behind you. It's called a lateral. It's very risky though and almost never happens outside of late-game desperate situations

>>18561933

No. Forward Lateral. You are only able to toss the ball directly to the person beside you, or behind. This keeps any player but the quarterback from trying to be a quarterback.

Intentional 'fumbles' are laterals fyi. You cant 'fumble forward' because its an illegal forward lateral.

Im sure you might be able to pretend it's a legit fumble and go 'whoopsie daisy' and ive seen it before, but I bet your coach would be pissed out of principle. That's dangerous and a possible penalty and youd look dumb

>>18561844
It's just about scouting. There's no guarantee the player will adapt to the NFL game or anything. First rounders are important because, well, they come first. Better prospects get taken up earlier.

>>18561844
It's important in fantasy because you already know who's good. You'll usually try to get the best QB or RB available.

In real life, you fill your team's need with who looked the best in college. Doesn't always work out though, see JaMarcus Russel, Tim Couch.

They'd have to sign a contract with the team. Seeing as Eli Manning is in this game, he's a good example. Around draft day, he straight up said he would not play for San Diego if they drafted him. They did it anyway, and traded him for Philip Rivers though

>>18561948

Here's the series of events

1. He wasn't that great or bad in college, so he slipped down to the 6th round
2. Starting QB got injured, Brady started playing
3. He won a Super Bowl and everybody realized he was good

>>18561948
that was when he first started after coming out of college, before he had made the name for himself that he has today.

joe montana was drafted in the 3rd round too i believe, but nowadays the most promising-looking QBs typically go in the 1st round.

>>18562033
wasn't the bigger issue that he was a career backup at Michigan?

>>18561948
He wasn't the best college QB in that draft, he got picked in the 6th round as a backup to Pats QB Bledsoe.

Just because you were great in college doesn't mean you will be great in the NFL. If you're great in college you will probably go to a shitty team and it's difficult for these college kids who are used to winning all the time to lose a bunch in the NFL. Also first round picks are usually expected to start.

A lot of later round picks have better success because they aren't expected to start and get to train/practice under experienced NFL players with way less pressure

>>18562031
Wait, you can trade players? So they can just say fuck yo contract you suck!

How do the Pro Bowl / Super Bowl work?
How do the Playoffs work and how do you get to it?

>>18562076
That was Cassel at USC.

>>18562073
Kurt Warner was undrafted, played in the Arena League
Aaron Rodgers slipped past twenty other first round picks that would love him now

>>18562137
that was also Brady at Michigan

Also if Brady loses today he will never be considered a great QB. No matter how many SB's he wins, he just won't be.

Great QB's don't lose multiple Super Bowls.

>>18562180
Brady started and won a citrus bowl and a rose bowl.

>>18562132

Player is traded, but contracts remain mostly in tact. Other team picks up the contract or renegotiates

Pro Bowl is just a fancy allstar game to make all the really great players that are on shitty teams and never make it to the super bowl feel better "yo dawg u a prob owler."

Playoffs is just a standard tourny. The teams are seeded based on season performance. Top Two teams get to sit the first round out and higher seeded teams get homefield advantage in playoffs.

Super Bowl is just the finals of the tournament. Big culmination, huge media event

>>18562157
nobody else wanted a gay quarterback, especially not if the gayest city wasnt going to take him. that's why he's always pissed at alox smiff, he wanted to play for frisco more than he wanted to be the first overall pick.

>>18562216
*orange bowl i mean

>>18562132
Yea, don't they let players play for other teams in european football?

Another example, Carson Palmer didn't want to play for the Bengals, who've historically sucked even with his high-level play. He held out and didn't practice or play for months on end and demanded a trade. Eventually the Oakland Raiders needed a QB and gave the Bengals important draft picks for the rights to Palmer.

>>18562204
0/10

Elway

So, about the plays, how many plays does a... Running Back know, at least? Do they know everything about it or just where to run and it's done? I can't believe those pile of muscles niggers really know 846451 different plays

>>18562204
losing owls you say? what does that mean?

If you had to compare the giants and pats to two premiership football clubs who would it be?

>>18562132
No, players and teams still have to abide by contracts unless they're renegotiated, etc.

When players are traded, their contracts are transferred from one team to another.

At the end of the regular season, the Pro Bowl voters (players, coaches, sportswriters) vote on the best players in both conferences by position. The best ones go to the Pro Bowl.

For the playoffs, each team that won their division gets in, plus 2 teams from each conference with the best records, these are the wild card teams. From there it's a single-elimination tournament with the top seeded teams in each conference getting a first round bye. It culminates in the winner of the AFC bracket vs. NFC bracket.

>>18562132

A player for the Patriots got cut yesterday.

That's the business.

Let's say a team punts on the 4th. What if a player from that team caught the ball? As long as they got the yards to they get a new set of downs?

can you punt it through the uprights? and get the 3 points for a kick from open play?

Why do you sometimes see the players recieveing the punt surround the ball after it lands? letting it settle to avoid a fumble?

And, do you have to "declare" a punt/FG attempt? I guess they'll see you bring on the kicker but you can fake yeah?

>>18562233
How are they seeded whatever that means by season performance? Most wins? Least Losses? W/l ratio? Touchdowns? What's the wildcard? I never got that.

Pro Bowl- How do they evaluate the players? I mean if you're good on a bad team...bad on a good team...how does that work..

>>18562248
>>18562216
>>18562180
just looked it up... Brady was a backup to Brian Greise his first two years, then took over the starting spot for his last two

>>18562261
trade != loan

>>18562279
they know a lot of plays, but they don't memorize the whole playbook.

The OC has to memorize every play and relates the plays to the QB on the field. The QB has a mic in their helmet, the OC will tell them "ok we're running X play" and the QB relates that information to the team.

A really smart QB like Peyton Manning, for example, might get a couple different plays from the OC and be able to audible based on what he sees/thinks is best.

They definitely know their shit though they don't just think "hurr i run ball now", everyone has got to be on the same page

>>18562279
A starter? A good one will touch the ball about twenty to thirty times a game depending on how reliable and necessary it is that they're playing well. Running plays usually aren't very complicated, they just need to know which hole to pop through and usually instinct takes over.

Receivers however have to know a ton of shit if they run the right routes.

I just wanna know whats public opinion on this final? I know here in Europe most neutral fans cheer for weaker team.
On which side is America tonight?

>>18562290
Patriots are Man U
Giants are maybe Arsenal?

>>18562321
If you win your division you get a top 4 seed in your conference. Those top 4 are seeded according to winning %. The two wildcards are just the best two records left in the conference after that.

>>18559027

Is it three of four quarters each game? I can never remember.

>>18562290
It's hard to say. I guess the Patriots would be Man U (constantly make playoffs and won the super bowl 3 times in like 4 years at one point). Not sure who the Giants would be though. Basically they usually have a mediocre regular season, but when it's playoff time they get their shit together and are a force to be reckoned with.

>>18562291
It would save me a lot of time if you explained some of these terms.
Division?
Conference?
And yeah, how do they decide best team

>>18562408
>quarters

You answered it yourself bro

>>18559027
Very helpful guide. Thanks.

>>18562279

There is a running 'joke' in football about stealing the other teams playbook. Like you might get some advantage.

There might be a fuckton of plays that coach has in his entire disposal (like pokemon cards!) but they arent making players memorize all that shit. They train and coach the players to perform in general. There are fundamentals that the 'complex plays' just add on to.

I cant really tell you how many plays these guys are expected to memorize, but the quarterback has to be the most studied. I doubt an offensive linemen looks at a play any harder than to which direction he's blocking and for who he's blocking for.

Ya dig? It takes some paying attention, but the white coach and white quarterback is there to ease the mental burden for the nigga

>yfw post suddenly got racist out of nowhere

>>18562408
Quarter= 1/4

4 quarters in a game.

why don't you just deploy a team exclusively of big fat niggers and let them walk over the opponents?

imagine a bunch of niggers protecting the "ball-carry-nigger" and just walk into the end zone?

>>18562321
each conference has 4 divisions, with 4 teams per division. the winner of each division gets a guaranteed playoff spot and one of the top 4 playoff seeds for that conference. the top two non-division-leaders in the conference get the 5 and 6 seed.

there are exceptions and other rules and some of it gets kind of complicated, but usually tiebreakers go like this:
wins
head-to-head
conference wins
wins against common opponents
strength of victory (cumulative record of teams you've beaten)
strength of schedule (cumulative record of all teams you've played)

and so forth, but by the end of the season that's typically all the tiebreakers you need.

One thing that always makes me wonder, when there's a passing play, the QB will always aim for X spot and throw there or will he adapt his throw to the WR, I mean, let's say the WR wasn't fast enough to get to the passing spot, or he ran the wrong route, does the QB try to adjust the pass?

>>18562321
The 32 teams in the NFL are broken up into two conferences (the AFC and NFC) and each conference is broken up into four 4-team divisions (for the NFC, those are the NFC West, NFC East, NFC North, and NFC South)

The playoff bracket has "seeds" or rankings 1-6 for each side. The first four are the divisional winners where the winner with the most wins is 1st, second-most is 2nd, etc. The last two are the two teams in the conference with the most wins but who didn't win their division. Teams seeded #1 and #2 don't have to play in the first round of the playoffs.

Oh, and the pro bowl roster is decided by fan votes. That's generally why teams from larger markets get so many players on the pro bowl roster.

>>18562318
>>18562318
>Let's say a team punts on the 4th. What if a player from that team caught the ball? As long as they got the yards to they get a new set of downs?
Hell no. If they catch it the receiving team gets the ball at the spot they caught it. In fact, if they touch it at all I think the ball is down.

If they punt through the uprights or out of the endzone at all it's a touchback and the other team gets the ball at their own 20 yard line.

The kicking team may mob the ball to let it roll as far as possible to give the receiving team worse field position. Obviously the further you have to go to get a TD the worse it is for your offense.

You don't declare anything and fake FG and fake punts do happen.

>>18562446

They used to use a similar tactic in the 1930's, it was called the "flying wedge" or something.

people died.

>>18562432
There are two conferences. One is the AFC (American Football Conference) and the other is the NFC (National Football Conference). In each conference, there are 4 divisions: North, South, East, and West. There are 4 teams in each division.

>>18562371
Id say Giants

Pats have been a dominant team for a while and won 3 superbowls in the last 10 years or so

I like the underdogs usually, but I am jelly of patriots dominance so fuck them
They fucked my team up bad last year so I hold a grudge

>>18562132
If they're drafted, the team owns the rights to sign them. He can't just refuse and sign with anyone, but if he's going to be a problem for the team, it's better to just trade him.

Kind of the same with Albert Haynesworth. He didn't see eye to eye with coach Shanahan on the Redskins, eventually just getting suspended for the season. Then he got traded because it wasn't worth having him on the team

>>18562279
A running back will likely know his assignment, plus the blocking scheme for a running play, and his own assignment plus receiver routes for a pass play.

It can be tough to memorize, that's why all-around smart/athletic backs (like Adrian Peterson) are adored and dumb niggers who can run fast (Chris Johnson) are disliked.

>>18562261
Carson Palmer was kind of a bust, to be honest. Especially after the Steelers broke his kneecap in two. And after that, it wasn't the team, but the incompetent owner, Mike Brown, who Palmer hated. Brown refused to get the team an indoor practice facility (which every other team has), refused to fund any sort of scouting department (which every other team has), and does almost nothing for the benefit of the team. It was a huge surprise for football fans when Brown allowed Palmer to be traded to Oakland because it meant that he did something to help the organization rather than to boost his own ego.

>>18562469
Depends on the player, the play and if the defense is in position to stop it. It's evidently more situational than it seems.

>that feel when you're watching the pre-game stuff on nbc but you have no idea what's going on

>>18562513
tnx, but you're obviously biased.

how big underdog are Giants anyways?

>>18562446

Because in real life where people are in shape and not beta faggots big fat niggers can get fucking crippled by a linebacker half his size flying with actual momentum and not big fat nigger blubber.

Whole team would be exhausted as fuck before the game could even finish. known cardio issues with linemen as is and they aren't expected to run up and down the field

>>18562432
The league is split into two conferences (the AFC and NFC).

The conferences are split into divisions (North South East West)

The winner of each division makes playoffs (example the Giants won the NFC East this season, that's why they're in the playoffs)

Then each conference also gets "wildcard teams" which are basically the best of the teams that didn't win their divisions.

Then it's a knockout style tournament for both the NFC and AFC. The last standing AFC team plays the last standing NFC team. Patriots are the AFC champions this year and the Giants are the NFC champions this year, so they play each other in the super bowl to see who the top team is.

>>18562479

That's odd, I know the codes have changed so much over the years but in Rugby a punt can be caught and played on from, to gain yards

>>18562474
How do you have the most wins and not be #1 or #2 seed your division?

>>18562318

1. After the ball is physically punted, if a player on the same team touches the ball it is the receiving teams ball where it was touched. The only way it can be returned to the kicking team is if it touches an opposing player before being recovered by the kicking team.

2. Punting through the uprights results in a touchback. If you look at the formations for a field goal attempt and a punt formation they are very, very different. the punter receives the snap, drops the ball and kicks it on the fly, the field goal kicker has to kick the ball from the hands of his holder.

3. Player surround the punt to allow the ball to move as far away as possible. If the ball starts rolling in the same direction the it was punted, the kicking team will let it roll so they are pinned farther. If the ball starts rolling toward the punting team, the players will try and catch the ball so they can get the best field posistion.

4. No you don't have to declare a punt or fg. Faking is a legitimate strategy

>>18562524
I don't know. He piloted that team for like . . . seven years? Do I need to point out how the 90's Bengals were at QB. He may not have been the Peyton Manning that people want out of the first pick in the draft but I can't call him a bust.

>>18562594
Its basically a toss up, both teams could pull it off easily

You wont find many people who like Pats on /sp/

>>18562469
Of course the QB will adjust for the route, the receiver and the coverage situation. A QB may lead a receiver further because he knows the receiver can cover more ground. A QB may also throw a higher pass because he knows his receiver can jump up to catch it but the defender can't.

On the same notion, a receiver can also adjust their route to give the QB somewhere to get rid of the ball.

>>18562318
the punting team can't get possession of the ball by rule of a punt, unless the receiving team makes contact with it first but doesnt maintain possession (see: this year's NFCCG) so the punting team's goal is to try and make sure the ball goes as far as possible before picking the ball up and calling it dead.

if the ball goes into the end zone though, that's a touchback and the they get the ball on the 20, so if possible the punting team tries to make sure it goes past the 20 but not INTO the end zone. if the returner thinks he cant catch it he might just let it go because of injury risks.

he can also call a fair catch by waving his arm up if he thinks he can catch it but would get hit immediately after. a fair catch calls the play dead right where the returner catches it. if the returner gets it and there's no fair catch, then they'll try to get as far as they can before being taken down, possibly even for a TD.

>>18562597

Also, the wildcard slots, rather than being the runners up in the Divisions, are the 4 teams that didn't finish 1st with the best win%, so you might get 2nd and 3rd from one division and none from another

>>18562469

The wide recievers are expected to be where the play wants them to go. They get paid millions of dollars for one simple thing. Run the rout, lose the defender, catch the ball, gain yards.

It's not magic when you realize this is all the quarterback and wide reciever obsess about. They are professional and familiar with how things 'look'

>>18562623
The seeds are for the playoff bracket, not the divisions.

If a team wins their division with a 9-7 record, they would be a lower seed than a team that won their division with a 14-2 record.

>>18562597
Also so 2 teams on the NFC can NOT face each other at the Super Bowl? Period? Same with the AFC? How many rounds of the Playoffs are there if teams seed 1 and 2 don't have to platy first round. Also seed 1 and 2 per division. Theres 4 division so that means 8 teams don' t have to play first round correct?

>>18562623
The Ravens and Steelers had the same record this year but the Ravens swept the Steelers so:
Baltimore = 2nd Seed AFC North Champs
Pittsburgh = 5th Seed 1st Wild Card

Even though the Texans and Broncos had worse records than Pittsburgh.


Last year the 7-9 Seattle Seahawks got in the playoffs as the NFC West champs and the 10-6 Giants and 10-6 Buccaneers didn't get into the playoffs because they didn't win their respective divisions.

>>18562640
Fair enough. He was most certainly serviceable, but he couldn't do what was (unrealistically) expected of him.

My point is Mike Brown is a twat.

>>18562623
seeds refer to rank in the entire conference (which has 4 divisions each) not within the division itself.

for example last year the seahawks were the best team in the NFC West division, with only a 7-9 record, so because they won the division they got a playoff spot, but having a far worse record than the other division leaders means they could only be the 4th seed.

>>18562779
>My point is Mike Brown is a twat.
Sounds good.

And look at your team now with Dalton/Green and all those draft picks

>>18562747
Not quite. The 2 division winners in each conference (AFC/NFC) get a first round bye. The other 2 division winners in each conference have to play the wild card teams in the first round, hence why it's called the "Wild Card Round."

Pic related.

>>18562636
if you fake a punt though, it has to go at least 10 yards. if the punting team gets it before it goes 10, the receiving team gets the ball right there, which is a huge gain for them.

high risk high reward, usually only a desperation move, so whenever it appears elsewhere and is successful it's considered a master troll move.

If any Euros are genuinely intrigued by the strategy give this site a go

http://football.calsci.com/Positions.html

goes over the positions, their physical attributes, and their duties under the more common schemes. it also has a nice run down of the big strategic developments that have occured in the last century.

>>18562747
the seeding is done for EACH conference, which means there are two pairs of 1 seeds, 2 seeds, etc.

in essence, it's basically two knockout tournaments run at the same time, and the winners of each play in the super bowl

>>18562843
I've learned never to get too excited for a Cincinnati team.

With our luck, Dalton gets injured, Green gets addicted to blow, Marvin Lewis gets murdered for a chili dog on the Cincy streets, and our draft picks are given to the Eagles in exchange for the Phillies not picking up Joey Votto.

As an American who's been giving pointers in this thread and is only familiar with the rules so well because I've grown up with the game;

This shit is highly fucking complicated for an athletic sport

>>18562881
is it me, or does left side have much stronger teams than the right one?

>>18562747
It stacks out in the first round, called the "Wild Card Round" with:

3 vs. 6
and
4 vs. 5

Then losest seed to win plays the 1st seed and the other seeded team plays the 2nd seed. It's single elimination, you lose and you go home.

So, usually it would round out with:

1 vs. 4
2 vs. 3

Called the "Divisional Round" this is the first game that the two top seeds play, then it would follow with whichever two teams that won playing each other, in our example case.

1 vs. 2

In the Conference Championship game. This happens for both sides, the AFC and the NFC and the winners play in the Super Bowl.

>>18563093
they both have their powerhouses, and they both have a good 3-5 meh tier teams

Ok, I'm gonna try to rewrite everything I just learned. Correct me wherever i'm wrong.
Theres the AFC and the NFC These are conferences. Each have 2 division each. Winner of the divisions get a spot in the playoffs with the two top ranked teams not having to play the first round. The wild card are the 2 team from each conference that not having won their division, had a good w/l and have a shot at the SB.

I guess my last question is how do they decide which team is in which conference and division. Do they just pick out of a hat or is it the same team every year? If the latter isn't that kind of fucked up because one good team can go to th super bowl because their division sucks?

>>18563093

Just happens to be that one side has better teams some years. Back in the very very beginning it was only the NFC by itself and the AFC was sucking serious ass for quite a while after it was established.

Chiefs early heroes of afc - greenbay led by lombardi were massive giants of nfc

>>18563054
its a strategic game first and an athletic game second.

there's a reason they call football the game of generals, it really is like commanding troop movements in war in order to pit opposing strategies against each other, the physical play is just how it gets carried out

its like chess, if both players got to move at the same time, and the move you're trying to make may not actually be successful (your piece would just stay where it is i guess) or may have unintended consequences.

>>18563170
*4 divisions
The two top teams get byes, the other two division winners get home games in the first round of the playoffs.

>>18563202

I think yurows would like the game more if they had their own teams and local pride etc and viewed the game for its strategic value

usually they just see guys running around with pads on looking like surely these guys are just derping around trying to tackle into each others soft pillowy cushions (pads are not soft. Yes rugby doesnt use pads, but if you have ever seen/worn pads you would know they are heavy and firm. More relateable to knight armor than fucking rollerblade knee pads)

>>18563175
>AFC was sucking serious ass for quite a while after it was established.

>>18562951

Other troll plays: the fake field goal, quarterback punt (very rarely happens, but Brady did it recently against Denver), flea flicker, designed lateral down the field, statue of liberty (see: Boise State Fiesta Bowl on youtube for the past two), uhhh I'm sure I'm missing a lot more. Basically most trick plays are designed for maximum trolling.

>be a knight
>fight for feudal corporate lord
>not have to actually murder a peasant or fear dying from the plague
>get bitches

>>18563469
Really, any good play-action pass is a hell of a troll play. A QB can fake a handoff, see the defense running up to the halfback to try and stop him and it's easier for his receivers to get open.

>>18563170
>>18563170
>
>I guess my last question is how do they decide which team is in which conference and division. Do they just pick out of a hat or is it the same team every year? If the latter isn't that kind of fucked up because one good team can go to th super bowl because their division sucks?
Is that question really so dumb? If a good team is in an easy division, they should be easily in the playoffs every year.
Also can I get an explanation of this dragon meme. I'm looking through /sp/s info pic and it keeps asking me if I like dragons.

goddamn this all-american thing is getting on my nerves, and you should keep your mouth shut during the national anthem

>>18563731
They keep the same teams in the same divisions and conferences as much as possible, the last time they reschemed the current alignment was when the Houston Texans entered in 2002. They try to align teams regionally to avoid travel problems for teams that play each other alot and to retain rivalries that the draw a lot of press and money. See: the Dallas Cowboys playing in the NFC East even though the other three teams there are the New York Giants, Washington Redskins and Philadelphia Eagles.

>>18563731
>dragons

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2006/11/f-k-it-im-throwing-it-downfield.html

Basically it's a long pass, whether it's completed or not. Rex Grossman (currently on the redskins) is known for saying "fuck it, I'm going deep" and launching the ball into mutiple coverage where it usually gets intercepted.

OK, a few questions.

1) When you get a first down, do you have to move 10 more yards from where you got the first down or 10 more from the line you crossed to get the first down?

2) When a team has a fourth down, for instance, they say "4th & ___." what does the ____ refer to?

Why don't they just get a team of huge fucking guys and get them to circle one guy who just holds the ball i.e. act like his body guards.

>>18564337
1. 10 yard from where you stopped after you got the first down. It wouldn't make sense any other way because you can easily travel 20 yards in a play.

2. How many more yards before first down. Most team just punt or go for a FG then risk turning the ball over and giving their Defense a chance.
>>18564510
I want to know this also like in the longest yard

>>18564254

Rex Grossman never actually said "Fuck it, im going deep".

>>18564847
In spirit he did
And he threw it all away

>>18564510
Linebackers would crush and injure every single player and your team would last maybe 2 quarters before everyone is dead

"play action"?

What does this mean?

What just happened? The fuck is safety?

WTF JUST HAPPENED?
WTF IS SAFETY SHIIIT

>>18566094
a safety is when the team going for end zone A is tackled or has the ball die in end zone B.
that call made the ball die at brady's spot.

>>18566293
I thought I had the basics but I guess not because I have no idea what's going on.

>>18565793

its a fake handoff to the running back to get the defensive backs to think its a running play then the receivers can get open more easily

>>18565793

Play action is when you fake handing it off to your running back and then pass to someone.

There are also plays where the quarterback drops back and acts like he's gonna pass, then hands it off to a running back. That's called a draw.

>>18565793
Play action is where the offense fakes a run in an attempt to draw the defenders in, but then the QB throws it.

>>18565793

I think thats when they fake a pass but run it instead

or is it vice versa?

>>18566431
a safety awards the opposing team 2 points and causes the offending team to kick off.
it's not a game-changing call, but it does make momentum shift drastically.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE ONE MORE MAN ON THE FIELD

>>18566574
Play action is a pass when you fake a run. A draw or delay is a play where you fake to pass and actually run.

>>18566810
You try subbing in and out players from a 70+ player team on the fly. But yeah stupid mistake.

>>18567036
yea, but wouldn't plays be designed for 11 players?

if you're standing around out of place or in someones spot, how do you not know it?

Are there any similar guides for basketball?

>>18567221
well, defense isnt structured so much. you just have zones or a person to cover, more or less.
too many men on field for offense, however, is hilariously bad.

>>18567320
please respond

>>18567320
Not that I know of. Questions?

>>18567320
no. niggerball is shit.

what's a blitz btw? how is it different than any other time the D goes for the ball?

>>18568144
A blitz is when people from the back of the defense (linebackers, safeties, corners) rush the offense, usually trying to shoot through holes or around the end. It's usually done by pushing with your line (4 guys) and like 2-3 other guys.

>>18568144
It's done to disrupt passing plays by rushing the defensive linemen and linebackers. Blitzing is NOT used to stop the run as some people here think it is (running the ball when the defense blitz usually becomes a good play for the offense)

>>18568315
and if you dick that up, the other guys WRs are completely open, right?

>>18567320
I'd really love one for hockey.

>>18568652
Usually. You've still have a few guys back, but there are less to cover. They idea to fuck up the QB and the backfield before that happens though.

>>18559027
that helped alot

>>18568576

how do you defend against that? throw it quick?

>>18568989
Good. Any other questions we can help with?

>>18569058
Find someone quick. Scramble and buy time. Scramble and run it. There's a lot you can do, but you have to be quick and think on your feet.

>>18569077

yeah, what's happening when they line up in front of eachother?

>>18569281
they are setting up for the play. the play starts when the center gives the ball to the QB from between his legs. They line up on the line of scrimmage. Basically, both sides are getting ready to go for the play.

>>18569412
What are the numbers and colors that the QB yells right before they hike the ball? Can they say anything?

what plays can you challenge? that "hold" seemed like bullshit

>>18569882
They can change the play at the line depending on what they see the defense planning to do. It's called an audible. What he says will depend from team to team. Each team has their own codes and they change them often.

>>18569962
You can challenge ball spots and touchdowns and the like. You cannot challenge penalties.

Difference between offsides, encroachment, and false start?

When exactly is a move incomplete, even if some receiver catches the ball?

>>18570070
See: >>18559965

>>18569984
Serious question. Can it be offensive as hell so makes the defense uneasy. What about real funny so the defense can't conecentrate? I'd take some liberties with such freedom

How long until the halftime show?

>>18570072
It's incomplete if the pass hits the ground or the catching receiver is out of bounds or lands out of bounds.

>>18570164
NO WHERE NEAR LONG ENOUGH

>>18570152

whats the difference in penalties?

>>18570236
What about the whole "he didn't have control of the ball bs"

>>18570070

If the offense does it...its a false start.

If the defense does it, but the ball hasnt been snapped...its encroachment

If the defense does it and the ball is snapped.. its offsides.

>>18570161
It could be, I suppose. But it's not likely. They don't get riled up.

>>18570248
How long is that in hours and minutes?

>>18570308
Defense can't cross the line of scrimmage when the ball is snappeed......What is a sack again?

>>18570303
Then he was bobbling the ball. It wasn't in his control. It's somewhat subjective.
>>18570301
All are 5 yards and repeat down.

>>18570446
A sack is when the defense tackles the QB before he can throw.

>>18570446

If the defense crosses the line of scrimmage before the ball is snapped, but then the ball is snapped... it is still offsides.

>>18570491
How can he do that if when defense cross the LoS, it's encroachment/offsides

>>18570611
You can cross the line ONCE the ball is snapped. Not before, only after.

whats a dime package?

>>18570720
4 d-linemen, 1 linebacker, 6 CBs/Safeties.

When is a tackle a tackle? When you've brought the offensive player to a 100% complete stop?

Why doesn't the offensive player keep struggling and pumping his legs to keep momentum going and gain as much yardage as possible?

TOUCHDOWN

>>18570996
It's hard to keep going, but if they can they should. It's a tackle when the refs call the play dead, so when goes out of bounds, when his body (usually a knee) hits the ground or you grind at a standstill for a bit.

Wait, so how do they stop the Wide Receivers if the defense is concentrated all down the middle?

>>18571230
Coverage by the secondary (CB's and Safeties). They can block passes, tackle as they catch it, break it up, intercept it. They can do a lot.

Hoe does a team stop a ref from making shit calls?

Ausfag here there were a couple of players from our football game (AFL) who went to America to become Punters for NFL teams (Ben Graham and Sav Rocca) i loved sav because he use to play for my AFL team (hence why i follow the Eagles even though he's at the 49ers now) but i have never actually seen him or Graham punt has anyone else? are they any good? do any of you guys like them? and have any of you seen AFL? sorry for the fuck long post

>>18571230

If the D sees a wide reciever running forward down the field (known as running a route usually) they have guys run back with them. The defender gets ~10 yard start so they have time to react to where the WRs are going.

>>18570996
When the offensive player's elbow, knee, or buttocks touches the ground. They are considered down at the point where they stopped moving forward, so even if they are pushed back a few yards before they touch the ground, they are down at the place where they started going backwards.

>>18571414
You can't. Sorry.
>>18571419
They might be reserves/back-ups. I don't follow most kickers and punters, as do most. Unless you're a big name for making clutch kicks a kicker, no one knows you. Punters are not followed basically at all. They only well known kicks are like Vinateri and Longwell. I haven't seen the AFL, though I might check it out (We have an AFL too but it's a special version called Arena Football)

>>18571610
yeah i thought they might be reserves Savs first game he got hit by some ravens dude helmet of during tackle and everything and he just got up and walked off like a boss no penalty but the NFL punished the guy who tackled him.

they made a big deal of it a few years back because Graham played for Cardinals and
Rocca the Eagles and one of the teams would go to the super bowl so there would be an Aussie for the first time ever it got hyped as fuck here.

and cool i knew there was college and NFL but didn't really know of any others we have a gridion league here as well but it's pretty small.

As an American fan, I must say that's an amazingly concise guide. Good work, whoever made it.

>>18560257

For anyone wondering, NO you cannot trip a player intentionally.
That's against the rules and you can be fined for it, the tackle has to be made legally for the safety of everyone involved. That's why they're coming down hard lately on helmet to helmet hitting, people used to just spear each other in the head but it's illegal in pro sports now.

>>18571993

Actually, there's a pretty good Aussie punter playing college football for LSU, Craig Wing.

There's also a defensive lineman from Brisbane who just won the National Championship for Alabama. Can't remember his name, though...

>>18571993
Rocca is the starting punter for the Redskins, it looks like. Graham is one of two punters for the Lions.

Yeah theres the NFL and the NCAA, but there are smaller leagues. Arena is the only one that gets any TV. All the others are tiny. Canada has their own version too; they play Canadian Football and have the CFL. High School football is also popular on a local basis.