how does it feel being on camera, nationally televised, and coming across as a pedophile sympathizer?

How do you feel knowing that you were just standing around doing nothing while your classmates are going to get kicked out of school because everything was recorded?

>>16297734
>i believe it was wrong, we broke our university that we pay for, and made our selves look like assholes
>im not saying it wasn't fun

Don't worry, most of your peers didn't really care what the rioting was about either. Just like the rally in Paterno's front lawn, they were simply looking for an excuse to act loud and stupid.

How does the phrase "rhythmic, slapping sound" make you feel?

>>16297755
this. you make my generation look stupid.

>PEDO
welcome to 4chan brother
but seriously how does it feel being an sympathizer for a pedophile?

>>16297741
>implying we were being sympathetic to sandusky
>implying we know enough to assume Joe Pa knew the actual story
We were pissed that he couldn't even finish the fucking season. Not OP btw.

>>16297741

Implying were pedophile sympathizers

most of our anger is against sandusky, the firing of Paterno was just the last straw

> He looked into the showers and saw a naked boy about 10 years old “with his hands up against the wall, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky,” according to the grand jury report.

I got a boner from this. Why?

>>16297817
Dumbest excuse I've ever heard. No wonder you go to Penn State.

>>16297817
>Football above the safety of children being raped

This is why your school is a laughingstock and your degree is turning into shit with every minute that passes

>>16297843
Yea, we're such a dumb school. That's why we're ranked number one with recruiters nationwide. So stupid.

>>16297869
Pretty much, bro. From now on you are going to be known as Pedo State, the school that loves to buttfuck 10 year old boys.

>>16297835
I didn't say you were pedophile sympathizers, I said that's how you came across. It's exactly how everyone there came across, regardless of why they were there.

>>16297869
What a vague, arbitrary statement

Do you think matt millen or joe pa himself diddled little boys?

>>16297750

dont care, it was stupid or them to be breaking shit in public. Our university got a huge security camera system for downtown like 4 years ago, there is no escape from the cameras

>Man tarnishes the name of a university
>Students protest when he's fired

>>16297898
Matt Millen fucked Lions so why not a little boy?

>>16297884
. Just be mad that if this happened at your school, no one would give a shit. To even make this a story they had to put blame on an old man who literally did everything in his power to fix the transgressions. Be mad that our school houses a legend. Be mad that our school is number one with recruiters nationwide. Be mad that our school has Alumni in every state and multiple countries around the world. Be mad that even with all this we still throw better parties than your shit school. Be mad we are currently ranked 12th in the BCS. Be mad that we have the best and most recognized marching band in the nation. Be mad that we have arguably the best defense in the country. We're proud of our school because we have something to be proud of and people are defacing our name because of the acts of one terrible man and two other men who did nothing about it. We fight to save the name and legacy of one of the greatest men in Pennsylvania who did what he had to. We are Penn State.

>>16297925
You're so fucking mad that your school is Pedo State. Your famous head coach is a pedophile protector. Stay mad you fucking scum.

why is matt millen in this as well!

>>16297734
You don't go there, the students weren't even rioting on campus, they were rioting downtown.

>>16297869
Not anymore

>>16297907
>Jerry Sandusky diddle little boys
>Students riot when JoePa, pretty much our Pope, gets the brunt of the blame and punishment and the people who where actually inactive (Spanier, Curley, Schultz) get to resign respectfully

If news comes out that Paterno was actually in on the whole thing, a lot of people are going to look really stupid (not that they already don't).

Paterno defenders should be very careful what they say right now.

Yeah that's shitty as duck that they let spanier resign. He should be rotting in prison right now but instead he gets a full pension.

LETS GET THIS SHIT STARTED

>Penn State degrees

>>16297925
Dat delusion

>>16297925
after a graduate assistant comes to Paterno's home and tells him he saw Sandusky butt fucking a 10 year old boy in the shower, making eye contact with the boy and Sandusky, Paterno does not alert authorities, just the athletic director.

Either Joe Paterno is senile and should have been dead long ago, or the university as a whole did not want to tarnish 10 years of historic football with kiddie butt fucking.

your school is dead now, for
ev
er

You WERE Penn State
We are Pennis State

>>16298030
Mcquery said all he had witnessed was inappropriate behavior and Sandusky breaking boundaries, he didn't even mention showers or butt fucking to Joe.

>>16298047
>rhythmic slapping sounds

>>16298047
because he knew Joe would start salivating at the mouth and fog up his Mr.Magoo spectacles.

can you image that big ol hook nose slapping against your pubes? you don't have to, the people testifying will tell you about it.

>>16298047
That is not true, read the grand jury report

did you get maced op? I was there until mace started flying then i NOPED right back to my apartment.

>hurr Penn state is so great
>JoePa did everything he could
>That means he called the cops and reported the felony he was informed of
>oh wait no he didn't
>uhh so damn let's just be mad and bring up stupid shit to dance around the topic that SCHOOL OFFICIALS learned of the rape of a child and all they did was tap the next guy to do something
>durr

>>16298084
He stated in the Grand Jury report that he witnessed shower rape. He didn't tell Joe anything about it

a little OC...

>>16298084
no, you read the grand jury report.

Joe testified that he was told Sandusky was doing something inappropriate or disturbing. Its implied that he wasn't given the full details, and in his recent press statement he says that he was not informed of the severity of what McQueary witnessed

>WOOOOO
>WE ARE PENN STATE
>WE LOVE YOU JOE

stupid fucking kids, it's not about football anymore

>>16298134
>Paterno testified that he then called Penn State Athletic Director Tim Curley and met with Curley the following day, explaining that a graduate assistant had reported seeing Sandusky involved in sexual activity with a young boy in the showers at the Lasch Building.

Nice Penn State education you have.

MarkMaddenX Mark Madden
Don't believe this can get worse? Give it 72 hrs. People really digging into Second Mile. Even more shocking revelation is ahead. Yikes.

Mark Madden is who first broke the story of the coverup.

>implying JoePa isn't going to be executed

>>16298030
Paterno discussed it with both the athletic director and the VP of finance, who also happened to oversee the University Police. It's not Joe's fault that it wasn't investigated further.

Disclaimer: I don't even go to Penn State, let alone a school on the same coast, and I don't know anyone who does. But to fire Joe Paterno over what the media has twisted so much is just plain retarded.

>>16298200
Mark Madden, yinzer sports neckbeard.

>>16298215
>Find out someone is raping children in your shower
>Don't do everything in your power to stop it

>>16298238
>tell media about hearsay
>hearsay is found to be false and you are open to being sued for slander

>looking like a retard on tv
>2011

>>16298266

that's the dumbest thing i've read all day

"...buttfucking a boy in the shower"
JoePa: "well it's easier to cleanup that way"

>>16298266
>Penn State education

Did anyone else notice the massive grandpaboobs Joepa was showing off when he stepped outside his house? God damnit dude, reign those fuckers in.

>>16297755
Exactly, people are moronic attention seeking whores who will cause a ruckus irregardless of the cause just to be apart of something larger than they are, yet these people aren't intelligent enough to be apart of something productive because violence is always easier...

>mfw white knights talk about this over starbucks tomorrow, say it such a tragedy, and then casually switch topics to some other bullshit becuase the only thing they really care about is hearing themselves talk

>>16298334
>irregardless

>>16298334
>irregardless
oh boy

Joepa is guilty of negligence, pure and simple. Given the immense gravity of the crimes commited under his watch, he should have fallen on his sword gracefully and resigned. Instead he decided to put football and his ego ahead of these poor butt ravaged children.

>>16298340
>>16298373

>mfw I just learned that term is actually informal and incorrect

I won't be making that mistake again

409 wins, sweeter than a 10 year olds ass

>>16298238
what should have he done? By reporting it to higher ups he did all he could.

>>16298445
add to that the fact that he got second hand information

okay moralfags, lets all go to the cops with hearsay he said she said...herp derp

>>16298477
do you have more of these pics?

>>16298445
>By reporting it to higher ups he did all he could.

paterno eventually admitted that this wasn't true. the pennsylvania police commissioner agreed with him.

>>16298445
In this country we have a thing called the police. You can even call them and report something anonymously. They typically look into crimes, arrest people, and take them off the streets. Sort of like what happened when a real man told them about what Sandusky was doing.

Or he could have checked on the well-being of the child, pressured the school to pursue things more, or even confronted Sandusky personally.

>>16298238
This is it. Legally, JoePa is in the clear (assuming he didn't lie in the grandjury), but morally he should have done more. The board of trustees at Penn State realizes that he could have done much more to help these kids, and they don't want to give the impression that they would let this child rapings slide.

>>16298477
>>16298445
he could have had the witness go to police, told the witness he would have his full support,
instead he told the witness to simply have a meeting with Penn state officials, the same people who in 1998 when a parent complained about Sandusky showering and hugging with their son while naked told Sandusky to" stop showering with little boys".

>>16298477
hearsay regarding a known sexual predator after receiving information about a specific encounter in a specific place at a specific time. seems like something that could be verified by law enforcement.

simply put, it's up to the police to investigate and determine whether the claims have any veracity, not just a whole bunch of school administrators passing the buck. this is just more excuses from people desperate to protect some old fart who decided football was more important than human decency

How come when the whole cover up of child molestation, involving people like the AD and the President came out there weren't any riots?
Does PSU love child rape that much?

>>16298477
second hand information is valuable to the police. are you an idiot? sometimes they get no tips at all... and are just dying for any lead.

if it means saving some kids from abuse they will definitely act on second hand info on a guy who was previously investigated for child molestation in the same shower.

>>16298236
I hated this faggot in WCW

>>16298564
are you a cop? watching a lot of csi i see why don't you take a trip down to a real police station and see just how many cold case files there based on your "tips" , the problem here was that he already told the AD who probably said something like "OMG, well we will handle it Joe, please don't worry about it and don't mention it again...don't wanna ruin our rep"...so then why would he go out of his way to go against the AD and to the cops with his second hand info if the school would rather bury the issue

>>16298625
>"OMG, well we will handle it Joe, please don't worry about it and don't mention it again...don't wanna ruin our rep"

JoePa should've looked him in the face and said "that's not good enough... fuck our 'rep'... this motherfucker needs to be behind bars"

>>16298625
well i think what you're learning right now, and what the pennsylvania police has stated, is that they could've done a lot with the information paterno had.

>>16298555
It appears that Penn State is fine with child rape as long as they make some shitty bowl

>>16297925
>everything in his power

Joe Paterno can't operate a telephone

>>16298639
lol there you go again falling for this bullshit. If anything he should have said we need to get to the bottom of this and pressured the AD. Getting them to come clean would have been the best and he would have come clean. The problem here is not JoePa. Its the higher ups with the real power that knew about it and what to do that didn't do anything. JoePa could have told the cops anything he wanted. State college is a podunk town with a podunk police force owned by the school. There were allegations back in 2002 that the DA didn't pursue. Stop being mad because talking heads say you should be.

>>16298727

> If anything he should have said we need to get to the bottom of this and pressured the AD.

Yep. And as arguably the most powerful single person on campus he decided to instead pass the buck and let sleeping dogs lie. Right? Why rock the boat? Let's play some football!

>>16297967
People don't look stupid when more info comes out. People can change their opinion when they learn more. I've yet to see evidence of wrongdoing by Paterno. If you roll out the proof, I'll believe it war right to shitcan him.

>>16298689
Prolly.

>implying he's actually using that computer
>implying his corpse isn't just propped up in front of it

>>16298872
Single most powerful??? maybe in the eyes of the students and fans, obviously not in the eyes of the trustees. That's the point here. He had no real power. If he did, then he wouldn't even be a topic of discussion right now. Bottom line was he had no power to challenge his peers on it, and lets say he did, they could just as easily say he didn't. He is just a scapegoat because football doesn't matter, money does.

>>16298934
And PSU wanted him retired for years, they just couldn't do it until now.

Penn State will never live this down. Never. From now on if you tell people you're a Penn State graduate they'll chuckle and say something like "so you like little boys lol". It's like with OJ Simpson. Nobody cares or even knows he was of the greatest running backs ever in the NFL. He's just the guy who got away with murder.

>>16298946
exactly, he was just a relic they were waiting to get rid of because the football program has been mediocre at best for years now

>>16298948
Same with JoePa. All the stuff he did in the 70s and 80s has been forgotten and all we know now is that he held onto his job long after he should have quit and failed to stop a longtime friend and co-worker from doing the NAMBLA thing.

Have they officially changed the name to State Pen U?

>>16298973
They couldn't fire him because of the PR disaster it would have caused. So they let the guy sit with no headphones drooling on himself at games for years while his assistants had to do all the heavy lifting.

This is probably for the best, though. He was a dead weight (literally) holding the program back and nobody wanted to see him die on the field after one too many sideline collisions.

>>16298927
0/10 troll harder

>>16298979
His name is now intertwined with pedophilia. In a few years people will think "Paterno... wasn't he the guy who was caught raping kids or something?" And it's no more than he deserves. Sweeping shit like that under the carpet and passing the buck? Karma motherfucker.

Why did you act like an asshole and bring shame to the university while the rest of us who remained at Paternoville were quiet and peaceful?

>>16299030
Yes. History will forever remember him as the guy who didn't know when it was time to quit and who failed to stop a child rapist.

>>16298934

If you honestly think Joe Paterno, the icon over whom students are actively rioting at this very moment, who built a 50 million dollar a year football program and national mega brand from the ground up, plus a $10 million library named after the one and only is not all but officially the most powerful person at Penn state your are dense and do not understand the beast that is college football. Did you miss the whole Ohio State 'I hope Jim Tressel doesn't fire me' scene?

>>16299063
It's like I said. Paterno is just like OJ Simpson. His past accomplishments won't be what he's remembered for, only the colossal fuck ups of his later life.

Joe Pa took one for the team. Everyone knows that the whole athletic dorm was full of large black men and little boys engaging in indecent acts 24/7 for almost 20 years.

>>16299077

Except he didn't fuck up, unless you listen to idiots like ESPN who have been spewing lies throughout this entire week.

>>16299086
I was speaking more in terms of his inability to realize when it was time to retire. Bear Bryant was smarter and knew when his best days were behind him, but JoePa unfortunately did not.

>>16299094
...he thought if he quit, he'd die in a week ala BB.

>>16299094

He was 8-1 this year

>>16299063
i'm not denying what he has accomplished, but if he is so powerful, then how did he get fired tonight over the phone when his wish was to finish out the season at the very least

>>16299110

And 3 of the last 4 years his teams started 8-1

>>16299110
Because of a cake schedule. They played only one good program (Alabama) and got smashed by them. They'll fold once they get into hard conference matches at the end, especially with the turmoil the program is now in.

>>16299119

They also got refball help in Illinois. But that Iowa win was impressive. You can't actually expect that team to compete with Alabama. Based on the evidence he actually did a decent job this year.

>>16299119

That is what every outsider thinks, but I GUARANTEE you that we will blow out Nebraska Saturday. This team is more focused than ever.

>>16299126
Well, yeah. In NFL terms, it's like a medium-strength team such as the Bucs playing the elite-level Packers (which is coming in two weeks)

>>16299126

Sorry not "in Illinois" it was a home game but the point still stands. Their defense has been awesome this year, they're playing much better than last season. I think the kids thought this might be Joe's last year so they've been executing very well.

>>16299143
Given that they were willing to riot for him, maybe they'll find a way to carry his last season to a successful conclusion.

>>16299140

It's a bigger talent gap than that, just because of how good Alabama is.

>>16299155
Well yeah, college ball is _way_ more imbalanced than the NFL, where everyone is theoretically equal (Rams knocking off the Saints for example).

>>16299150
Winning a bowl game would also do a lot to shut up the program's critics.

>>16297734
One thing I like about the students is that while all the blowhards on TV are talking about "this isn't about the football" these kids put the focus back where it belongs, on the football.

>>16299115

He was fired because a dozen plus little boys were systematically sodomized over a 20 year period in his facilities and under his watch. To some degree several years ago he was made aware of this fact and was half assess in his follow up (he himself admitted as much in his press conference!). The trustees were all but forced to fire him. And let me clarify that I never implied Paterno was more powerful than the whole board (see 'most powerful single person') just that he has vastly more authority and clout than the AD and vice president he reported to. After admitting his oversight the next words out of Paterno's mouth should have been 'I resign,' not 'let's play football.'

>>16299200
its not about football, jackass. it's about child molestation and a university that covered it up. many people are going to jail over this.

>>16299204
>implying forced
>implying the trustees hadn't been waiting for years to get rid of Paterno.

>>16299221
What's going on is not about molestation, it's about trying to fire your way to PR safety. Classic scapegoating.

So to punish Paterno for someone else's molesting, they're cockblocking him on his I've coached for ten billion football games record. Petty shit. I hope he goes to Ole Miss, coaches 2 games, and tells the PSU board of trustees to lick his 84 year old anus.

> under his watch

Nope. /sp/ has gone over this thoroughly all night, not starting again, all the arguments have been made. The rational side won.

>>16299275

As a student, I obviously was not on here tonight. Can someone please bring me up to date on what the "rational" side is saying?

>>16299295
That it's his fault for not stopping Sandusky because "My best friend and former player of 40+ years couldn't possibly be a dirty NAMBLAfag."

>>16299204
now you are just repeating yourself again saying what he should have done (which we already know because you've said it over and over again), instead of staying focused on the topic what is being done now based on his stature at the university

PSU alumnus here. Thank God I already have an established career. Good luck to you little undergrad faggots. I don't think ALL your potential employers will laugh you out of their offices.

It's good that Paterno didn't let his ego get in the way and reaffirm in everyone's mind that he has absolutely no moral compass by retiring as soon as this scandal hit. Oh wait, that's right, he wanted to finish the season because football is more important than the rape of children in his "house".

Don't worry Joe, there are still plenty of shitbags in the State College community willing to suck your cock (metaphorically, of course). People of the same moral fiber as you for whom football is god. Success with honor, JoePa!!!

>>16299306

Interesting, because that's not true at all. Bottom line is that he was lied to. He was lied to by Spanier. He was lied to by the Board of Trustees. If they had nothing to hide, they wouldn't have delayed actions as long as they did. They are criminals here. They have destroyed everything Penn State has stood for, not Joe Paterno.

>>16299306
Why the fuck did McQueary not beat the shit out of Sandusky when he saw what was happening in the showers, then proceed to call the police?

>>16299343

That is a question everyone at Penn State wants answering.

>>16299343
He probably developed a stunned deer-in-the-headlights look when he saw it. People tend to do that when they encounter weird or threatening situations.

I mean, if you saw a kid being buttfucked in a shower, you'd likely stare in disbelief and walk away as well.

>>16299333
this is so true, too bad most of these fucks are blinded by what espn tells them

>>16299319

Try reading the whole post before responding bud.
The first part is context in which I vainly attempt to mash through your little pea brain that this is about molestation and not some contrived conspiracy whereby the trustees willfully crucified their cashcow.

tl;dr Paterno reported his concerns to people who were only his superiors in name and name only.

>>16299367
As Paterno likely did as well. If you were told a guy who had been like a brother/son to you for decades was a child rapist, you'd not want to believe it.

>>16299392
After all the 'incidents' though eventually you have to look past that, which he didn't. Joe Pa is morally bankrupt as a result, he's completely killed his legacy and honestly I think he should by all rights go to jail, along with everyone else in the administrative staff who knew about this.

I still wonder why it took 10 years for any of the guy's victims to say anything.

>Sandusky raped little kids on campus.
>Paterno was made aware
>Paterno didn't pursue it/fire his ass
>Paterno gets canned.

Its a simple fucking process people. He hired the guy, the guy did some fucked up things, Paterno allowed him to keep his job and let him retire the next year instead of getting all the details, firing his ass, reporting him to the authorities, and allowed multiple more kids get raped by not speaking up.

Captain goes down with the ship.

END OF STORY.

>>16299410
He was only made aware of one of the incidents and might have known about the other one in 1998

>>16299433

Except people from the Harrisburg Patriot-News said with 100% confidence that he was never made aware of the 1998 charges. There goes your theory, doesn't it?

>>16299435
He was made aware and didn't pursue allegations of sexual misconduct on his staff.

He hired them, He is responsible for them. Especially if an incident occurs on campus.

Westboro Baptist Church is picketing the PSU/Nebraska game. oh lulz

>>16299435
This guy was bringing kids to practices and home games and hanging around campus, long after he was investigated and swept under the rug.

People knew he was a pederast and he still had his halfway house and access to PSU. Nobody asks questions about why he's still allowed to be around children at all?

I don't buy it. Lots of people knew or suspected, and it walks too closely to the "willful ignorance" line to be permissible.

>>16299442
Its in the Grand Indictment. I will believe that before I believe some back woods rag journalism.

He was MADE AWARE by a grad student.

Argue all you want, His ass got fired and rightfully so. His legacy is gone, Penn State will have a black smear for the next 25 years.

You will never hear the end of it.

>>16299410
>I think he should by all rights go to jail, along with everyone else in the administrative staff who knew about this.
JoePa was a sacrifice they had to prop up so that the general public would be placated.
He's probably been a stuffed corpse for the last 10 years anyway.

>>16299379
oh this is about molestation? who was molested....nevermind, it doesn't matter. I'll go get the truck and get the fam together and we'll go round up the most recognizable face we see first that had anything to do with it....forget about logic. i recon its all his fault anyway. you are just one more tool on a witch hunt thinking you have a leg to stand on because the children got . talking to you is pointless

How does it feel knowing that riotbowl vancouver was so much better than the riotbowl you put on?

>>16299464

Considering how this "back woods rag journalism" was the ones who broke the news in March about Jerry Sandusky being under investigation, I would kinda trust it.

He was made aware SOMETHING happened regarding Sandusky, no one knows what specifically was said.

>>16299447
He was three years retired by the time of the second incident. Yes, he was still using athletic facilities, but that makes him the AD's problem, not Paterno's.

>>16299478
So he wants to skirt his responsibility in this matter on a technicality.

Look, half the brass at that school is totally up shit creek. When all of JoePa's bosses are in jail, why does he get to walk? Especially since by all regards, he is the highest authority on campus.

Stopping the judicial system at Paterno is arbitrary, and the only reason you would do it is because he is a well liked celebrity coach.

>>16299504
because he didn't do anything wrong. he didn't see anything. he was told something and relayed that concern to the appropriate party.

>>16299504
>judicial system
>joepa never charged with anything

>>16299504
> the only reason you would do it is because he is a well liked celebrity coach
If you don't think that's how the courts work too then you are hopelessly naïve

>>16299504
Paterno gets to walk because he didn't break the law that the other two guys violated. The idea behind the law is that the claims are supposed to work their way up the chain-of-command until the guy at the top calls police. Paterno wasn't the head of the chain, Curler and Schultz were, and they were the ones who fucked up. It'd be like punishing everyone because the last guy intentionally screwed up the message in a game of telephone.

>>16299516
Yeah. I don't buy that. An educational institution and specifically the athletic department covered up and even enabled the molestation of numerous children.

Knowing that this guy is an alleged pederast, knowing that he is still hanging around campus with children, knowing that he still operates a charitable organization for disenfranchised children is too much circumstantial evidence to ignore.

These are serious criminal acts, and if you think the most powerful man in the campus' athletic department is innocent, you're probably biased based on his history and athletic accomplishments.

The worst of it is, you would think that Paterno would actually practice the morals he preached for so long. It's really pathetic and depressing.

So I don't have to tell anyone when I find out some guy molests people?

Sweeeeet.

>>16299553
Who ever said you did?
How do you benefit either way?

Sandusky continued to show up at football functions/facilities with boys long after Paterno was told about his pedophilia. So I guess he and McQueary were like, "Jerry! Good to see you!! I'm glad you got over that little case of pedophilia and can now form healthy relationships with young boys. Queerbo must have hallucinated that whole rhythmic slapping thing."

Sandusky waved it in everyone's faces after the fact and they ignored it. Anyone saying Paterno is blameless is a moron at best.

>>16299542
This isn't just two people who are complicit in this. You don't have a child molestor getting caught on campus in inappropriate situations over and over again without raising some eyebrows.

>>16299544
So if Sandusky had been a famous basketball assistant coach instead of a football assistant coach, should we have still blamed Paterno? I mean, he is 'the most powerful man in the athletic department'

>>16299571
Yes, absolutely 100%. Everyone in that athletic department should be investigated for their culpability, and quite a few of them should be going to jail.

We are talking serious criminal conspiracy here. This isn't some petty NCAA recruiting scandal. Penn State will be lucky to have any athletic department left at the end of it.

I would be really surprised if they play another game this season. Not joking.

>>16299544
no, i don't give a shit about college football. notice what you said: the athletic department covered something up. the coach is not the athletic department. he might be functionally more powerful than them on some matters, but he has a football program to run and they have nonfootball things to handle too. he was given a report that there was something going on by someone who apparently didn't feel the need to call the police. he forwarded teh complaint on to the person in charge to investigate. until i see some reason to suspect that the coach had a hand in covering this up, i don't see why i should jump to the conclusion that he did. it's reasonable for him to trust that the AD will investigate a serious accusation like that. if no action is taken, it would have been reasonable for the coach to conclude that the accusation wasn't substantiated after all.

>>16299591

Since I have direct ties to the athletic department, fuck you. Very few people, if any, in the athletic department knew anything. That is the truth, whether anyone wants to believe it or not.

>>16299604
0/10 on trolling

>>16299591
Interesting viewpoint. You should take a tripcode so I can know to ignore you. Tell me, do you think that the government had a hand in 9/11?

>>16299608

Not trolling, I'm telling the truth. Not everyone on 4chan is a bullshit lying troll.

>>16298930

look at this picture, there's no way he could have called the police. he didn't have a phone. he does have unreachable gold pens.

>>16299604
Keep telling yourself that, buddy. Things like this don't happen in a bubble. People gossip, and this guy has a history of getting caught in public in compromising situations. On top of this, he was still hanging around the campus with children.

I have a hard time believing that faculty members at Penn State are totally shocked about these revelations.

look guys, lets take a break from this debate and hit the showers, i got some great new wrestling moves to show you

>>16299628

Faculty members does not equal Athletic department. I've met and talked to Tim Curley numerous times. I highly question that he would lie about something this serious. I place the blame on Spanier the the Board of Trustees.

>>16299609
No, but I believe that an educational organization deliberately ignoring a child molestor on campus for 15 years is one of the most disgusting and disturbing scandals I've ever seen.

>>16299636
You can refuse to accept your buddy's guilt all you like, but he is morally bankrupt and is deservedly going to go to jail.

God I am SO transferring to Penn State

>>16299654

Wait until the truth comes out, then you will see.

>>16299638
Penn State is essentially a city of 60,000 people. Tell me, if you live in an area of that many people, do you know EVERYTHING that's going on? Even if you just take the faculty, there's still 9,000 of them. It's fucking impossible for that many people to be that closely connected or care that much about the shit going on in each other's lives.

>>16299657
I really doubt things are going to get any better for anyone involved with this. This is only going to get worse, very quickly, for everybody.

Again, deservedly so. How can you defend this behavior? Schools are supposed to look out for children. Anyone who knew about this and looked the other way facilitated turning PSU into a child molesters bachelor pad.

>>16299665

I'm not defending this behavior. Like I said, I believe Sandusky is guilty, and the university president and Board of Trustees are responsible for covering this up to save Penn State's pristine image.

I still think they're covering for joepa and he never reported it.

the team will be fine. college rep is ruined. We should rip down the statue and beat it with shoes.

Here's a pic of joe coaching the last few years

I am sickened by Joe Paterno. Once he was informed of Sandusky's disgusting behavior, he should have immediately retried from football and dedicated the remainder of his life to fighting crime as a superhero, or at the very least, became a Dexter-esque pedophile serial killer, which is exactly what I would have done. Anything less than that is sheer criminal negligence.

>>16299661
It's not like this is some anonymous nobody. This guy is a pseudo-celebrity on campus who has books written about him. Joe Pa's #2 for a while.

People gossip, guy. They see this guy around campus with kids and connect the dots. He gets caught by random people in the shower over and over again with children. This continued for years and years. Lots of people knew what was going on.

>>16299674
So you don't want Paterno and your buddy Curley thrown under the bus, but you want the board of trustees and president to take the fall.

Why not everybody?

>>16299687

Everyone responsible for fostering this behavior should be gone. I just honestly do not believe Paterno or Curley are responsible.

>>16299129
Your team will be in shambles on Saturday. They might even refuse to play, which would be epic.

>>16299680
all he had to do was call the cops

>>16299682
I'm not saying that there weren't any whispers about it amongst the people involved with the football program, but for you to suggest that EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL in the athletics department even gave a shit about Jerry Sandusky, much less knew that he raped kids, is idiotic.

>>16299693

Lol keep thinking that. I know the players, I know they will play, and they are ready to beat the living shit out of Nebraska.

>>16299699

Well he contacted the AD and got Gary Schultz, who was the person responsible for the police. What more do you want?

>>16299705
It's seriously that difficult to dial the police and just inform them about this?

Lazy to the nth degree, or just unwilling to give a shit.

please dont tell me i missed a pedo state riot bowl thread..................

>>16299693
It's a shame they're playing Nebraska, who has fans that are at least a little classy. I wish they were playing WVU. They have one of the most obnoxious study bodies around(lots of new jersey faggots) and would not shy away from kiddie fucking jokes.

>>16299692
As an impartial outsider with a previously favorable view of Paterno, it's inconceivable to me that he would not have knowledge of this behavior. It's Joe's house, man. You don't harbor a pedophile on campus for 10+ years without people taking notice.

I honestly believe that multiple people would have approached the athletic department and Paterno personally over the years about this. I think that any reasonable person would put 2+2 together with that creepy ex coach who always brings kids around to practice, and has been investigated in the past for child abuse.

He even admits he should have done more. He knew what his friend was doing was wrong and highly illegal, and he didn't do shit about it. That's complicity and tacit approval of this creep's behavior.

>>16299410
Would you please direct me to the special secret newspaper that you're reading where all the incidents are reported to Paterno? Because the documents I'm reading tend to show a pattern of people filing reports, police or child services investigating, deciding to do nothing, telling Sandusky to watch his act, and then not telling anyone.

>>16299708
He told the guy who ran the police. Why the hell would he expect the police to do anything if the guy who runs them doesn't?

>>16299710
Pretty sure they're playing at home. It'll be a fucking circus.

Wait clear this up for me

>Campus police AND state police investigate the guy on several occasions
>even going so far as to eavesdrop on a conversation where the guy admits to being naked with kids in the shower
>police do NOTHING
>...
>...
>...
>JoePa's fault

How does this make sense?

>>16299716

I wish I could type out a long and honest response to this, but sadly I'm getting too tired to think straight. Yes, Joe runs the show and yes, you would think victims would come forward sooner, but also don't forget that any innocent party wouldn't wait 4 days to make a statement. That's exactly what the president and Board of Trustees did. That's embarassing.

>>16299740
>JoePa knew he had been fucking little boys
>did not fire him immediately and report him to the cops

There you go.

>>16299746
But I thought Paterno didn't find out until like 2002, 4 years after the guy retired?

>>16299743
You are just trying to shift the blame to someone else, who isn't an iconic figure in college sports.

To me, it looks like that entire athletic department is corrupt to the core by covering this up. I'm sorry that I feel that way, but I think most people agree with me. It could be more than just the AD too, senior university officials and such. They should investigate everyone thoroughly because it's totally unacceptable to have an educational institution complicit in the coverup of a child molester.

>>16299753
He still allowed him on campus and gave him use of the facilities. He was working out in their weight room last fucking week.

>>16299753
From what I've read, we're not actually 100% sure when he found out. Have the police confiscated the athletic department's computers and such?

>>16299740
Because Joe Pa was tipped off to a different incident and didn't tell the police. Instead, he just told the people he was supposed to as required by law.

>>16299764
NOT PATERNO'S DECISION TO MAKE
Only the AD or the president could kick Sanduksy off of campus.

>>16299716
When the cops investigate, but don't prosecute, then none of that investigation becomes public. Cops had looked into this guy several times and not done a fucking thing. But they never prosecuted so none of that investigation became public. So when you say, "they should have known about that guy who kept getting investigated", that's bullshit because none of these investigations ever came to light

>>16299764
But why aren't you blaming the campus police who had as close to hard evidence as you can get and refused to do anything?

All Paterno had was a grad student saying he saw something. Campus PD had the guy ON TAPE admitting he was showering naked with and touching little boys.

Why is the guy running that investigation not getting crucified right now? We even know his name for fuck's sake.

>>16299758

I'm not shifting blame. I'm just explaining where the blame should lie.

>>16299771
No is disputing the date when Paterno found out. Stop that.

>>16299782
No, on one incident. Please start citing which situations your talking about. Or better yet, learn what happened.

>>16299795

>2011
>people actually learning the facts about cases

Yeah that's not gonna happen.

>>16299758
>To me, it looks like that entire athletic department is corrupt to the core by covering this up.
You're a complete fucking moron. Three guys from the athletic department out of the hundreds in it were involved in this, and two of them did what they were (legally) supposed to do.

The DA that originally dealt with the sandusky issues went missing a while ago and was declared dead. His name was Gricar. Last seen at an adult bookstore.

And the plot thickens....

>>16299795
A HURR DURR

Sandusky was caught three times. Once in 1998, once in 2000, and once in 2002.

The investigation in 1998 never became public because no charges were pressed. Paterno didn't know about it.

The incident in 2000 was never reported because the janitors didn't bother doing anything about it. Paterno never knew.

The incident in 2002 was told to Paterno. He told the AD and Schultz. Someone asked why Paterno was being blamed for this and I was explaining that it's because he told them and not the police.

Why don't you learn how to follow a conversation, you autistic fuck?

>>16299828
And his laptop was found at the bottom of the susquehanna. It was "too damaged to recover any data."

>>16299846
>>16299828
Wow it's literally like I'm reading Grisham.

>>16299782
>Only the AD or the president could kick Sanduksy off of campus.

You really think they'd say no if Paterno walked into their office and said he wanted Sandusky banned from campus? You're a fucking fool.

>>16299787
Pretty sure the head of campus police is already in some serious shit for this whole thing.

>>16299860
1) It's possible that they could say no. Kicking him out of the locker rooms might be a breach of whatever agreement Sandusky signed to get those rights in the first place, I don't really know.

2) Why would he do that? You're essentially blaming the man for not abusing his power and prestige.

>>16299860
Have you ever been to this campus? It's not like a high school or even a small college. Being banned from campus is like being banned from half of town. People flow on and off campus all day without being noticed. Even weird old fuckers.

>>16299885
>abusing his power
>keeping a known child rapist away from the program he built

You a Penn State fan?

>>16299889
He was working out in the football program's weight room. Pretty sure they can keep track of that.

>>16299810
Just wait until the heads stop rolling, and you'll see it's more than three people. The media is focusing on people MOST responsible, which starts with the offender, then the people who perjured themselves covering it up, then Paterno who is big dog on campus, then the rest of the athletic department and university officials.

Very few people in that athletic department are going to keep their jobs. This scandal is going to haunt them forever, and more than a few people will go to jail. State employees covering up child molestation? Serious business.

>>16299902
>implying that there aren't plenty of other shower stalls on campus for him to molest kids in. I'm at another big 10 university of similar size and I know of 4 different gym facilities that are open to the general student body.

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>>16299895
In any situation like this, going outside of the established power structure should be considered an abuse of power. The decision was the AD's and the President's to make, and they decided to ban him from bringing kids to campus. Joe Pa going in and telling them to go fuck themselves and ban Sandusky from Campus entirely would be insubordinate, and it's definitely not an idea that would run through the head of someone who had been working in that system for forty years.

>>16299915
It doesn't fucking matter. HE WAS IN THE FOOTBALL FACILITY.

Gee, he could be raping kids anywhere on campus. Might as well let him rape the kids in our building!

>>16299921
Then it's a good thing he got fired. The fact that he continued to work for a program that enabled a child rapist is enough reason to can him.

>>16299921

You are really fucked in the ahead if you care about maintaining a power structure over KIDS GETTING RAPED.

If you feel bad for Paterno you are an awful person

>>16299921
Like I said, systematic corruption. And you think only 3 people are responsible?

LOL

The people making excuses are so damn ridiculous. HE ENABLED A PEDO TO CONTINUE TO RAPE CHILDREN.

>>16299940
I'm not saying that Paterno shouldn't have called the police, but blaming him for not trying to intimidate his superiors is stupid.

>>16299960

I blame him for not going to the police directly. What kind of human being stands by and does almost nothing? This case is black and white, there is no grey area

>>16299960
You are trying to paint Paterno as some poor individual oppressed by his superiors. He yearned to do more, but was shackled at the whims of the athletic director and university president.

Yeah, fuck that. Nobody actually believes he needed to intimidate anyone.

Paterno could have been a hero for exposing this pederast 10 years ago. Now he is forced out in disgrace, and don't be surprised if he spends the rest of his pathetic life behind bars.

>>16299919
>>16299919
>>16299919
>>16299919
>>16299919

Come on, someone has to step up and post this on FB of penn state's fan page.

Let the butthurt flow through them

>>16300006

Legally, Paterno will have no problem

>>16300020
It depends. I'm sure they will investigate how McQueary got his job as WR coach. If it was granted to keep him quiet about Sandusky... well.... who knows what that will lead to.

This shitstorm has barely started.

>>16299929

Agreed.

His comments since this story broke have essentially come down to, "I'd do anything for this school." In Joe Paterno's mind he probably thought that countless people contributed to, depended on, and were helped by Penn St. University and ruining all that would be pointless. His loyalty lied with the school and extended no further.

It's basically what the Catholic church went through. This thought that, "What's done is done. No sense ruining an entire institution over the act of one man." Shit, even now people are crying over the student athletes and proclaiming that they are victims too and football should go on this weekend. Yep, no sense in ruining a sporting event over something as trivial as child rape spanning multiple decades.

>>16299971
It's a normal thing for a human being to do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

There were numerous other people involved in this, and each one of them had more reason to call the police than Paterno did.

>>16300030

Pennsylvania AG already said they're not going after Paterno.

>>16300071

Wait, you say here >>16299810 that only three people were involved, and two of them did what they needed to do. Now you say there are numerous other people involved with better reason to call the police?

Man take your trip off if you are going to blatantly contradict yourself in the same thread. You are really pathetic for defending these people.

Twos simple facts that keep repeating themselves:

1) Sandusky faced similar charges before while he was still on Paterno's staff.
2) Paterno didn't follow up on his report despite the severity of the accusations and prior cause for concern.

He's responsible. He could have and SHOULD have done a LOT more if he wanted to at least cover his ass.

Can't believe Pedo State is rioting over a pedo protector.

Not that I want to defend these people, but I must point out that we have this whole "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" thing here.

>>16300163
At this point, guilt has already been presumed.

Innocent until proven guilty is just an ideal. People don't follow it.

>>16300163
Being innocent of crime doesn't mean he gets to keep his job.

Guilty by association is good enough to have him fired.

>>16300092
I said that three guys in the athletic department were involved in it in response to allegations that the entire department was corrupt. Spanier and Schultz are not part of the athletic department.

McQueary is legally in the right. He told Paterno, which was the bare minimum that he needed to do. However, he was also a witness to the crime, which Paterno was not. Having the most to offer the police, he should have called them.

Schultz was intimately involved with the police. He was brought in specifically because of that fact. He should have talked about it to any of his contacts in the police department in an official context to do something about it.

Curler is the AD. Sandusky, not being attached to any individual program but still using athletic facilities, was the athletic department's problem. His job involves investigating and controlling issues in the department such as these, and he failed to do that in this case.

Spanier is the university president. Legally, he was obligated to call the cops. From what I gathered from the report, he wasn't informed until after Curler had already taken his own (insufficient) actions. He should have overruled Curler and taken more action.

Paterno, on the other hand, was approached as more of a confidant than the others were. At this point in time, Sandusky was three years gone from the football program. Granted, Paterno should have, at the very least, encouraged McQueary to call the police. However, he did choose to involve the right people in it. Had Curler or Schultz done their jobs properly, then the matter would have been reported to police and Paterno would be a hero right now.

>>16300189
It's cool you want to throw everyone to the fire except Paterno. You have some crazy hero worship going on there.

These are not good people. Nobody there is innocent, and they are gonna go to jail.

>>16300206
I was with you until the "go to jail part".

Paterno will not go to jail. The others are under perjury charges, so they might.

>>16300189
The bottom line is that Paterno could have done more, and if he had done more, he could have prevented children from being raped. And he chose not to.

>>16300233
You could be doing more to prevent children from being raped right now. Why aren't you?

>>16300241

I'm not doing more because I'm not on the Penn State campus right now.

>>16300241
I don't personally know anyone that rapes children. JoePa did. Spin all you want. JoePa is gone and his legacy is forever tarnished. Deal with it.

>>16300241
I don't have any buddies who like to use my shower as a rape den.

>>16300241

This may be the single greatest argument ever posted on 4chan. Congratulation bro. Go state.

LOL U MAD CUZ UR SCHOOL IS NOT ON THE NEWS FOR IDOLIZING PEDOPHILES AND CRIMINALS LOL UR SO FUCKING JELLY RIGHT NOW WHY U SO MAD CUZ WE STYLIN ON U

Someone tells me that Suzy, a girl in my Biology lab, gets beat by her boyfriend on a nightly basis. If I don't do anything about it, am I as bad as Suzy's boyfriend?

>>16300189
Uh, no. McQueer witnessed a serious crime. Withholding information is illegal. Paterno is not the police or any sort of criminal authority.

>>16300084
As of now, yes. Let's see what happens when the police (I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI shows up, this thing is huge) starts digging up things. I have a feel that being fired was only the beginning of the end for Paterno.

>>16300288
What a terrible argument. Sandusky was Paterno's right hand man, he worked directly for Paterno and regularly interacted with Paterno's program. Does Suzy's boyfriend work for you? Is he your roommate?

>>16300288
Yes.

>Calling crowding in the streets and breaking a few things a riot
From these videos I've seen it looks like Penn State is a bunch of pussies. I might not have seen all of what they did though.

>>16300288
Yes, you should resign for whatever job you have.

It's funny they fire the coach, but they'll still let the school stay in the Ivy League

>>16300312
>Sandusky was Paterno's right hand man
>worked directly for Paterno
He was three years retired when this happened, but okay, I can play your game

>Someone tells me that Johnny, my partner in Biology lab, beats his girlfriend on a nightly basis. If I don't do anything about it, am I as bad as Johnny?

>>16297734

>our selves
>any thing

Well now I know you're a Penn State student.

>rioting to defend child rape
>Amurrikah

>>16300325
>Penn State
>Ivy League

>>16300327
Way to ignore the rest of my post. He regularly interacted with the football program and continued to use its facilities after retiring.

I'll even answer your stupid questions. Yes, if you know he is abusing his girlfriend, you should do something. There are even anonymous hotlines you can call to report suspected abuse situations. Your turn - continue defending child rape.

>>16300327
Change that to children and yes, you are as bad as Johnny if you don't do anything about it.

His girlfriend should have the common sense to get the hell out of there, but she's an adult and can make her own bad decisions.

And the fact that Paterno is an employee at a school makes him legally obligated to report it.

>>16300345
And Johnny regularly borrows my textbook and lab materials.

>>16300360
Even more reason to report him. I hate faggots that can't take care of their own shit so they have to bum stuff off of me.

Thats my boys
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>>16297817
And what are you doing here, I got this
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>>16300311
Eh. I don't know how it works exactly, but what I gathered from the AG and everyone saying that McQueary and Paterno weren't getting charged was that they only had to report it to their superiors.

If someone WITNESSED Joe severely beating his girlfriend and told you and neither of you call the cops and you continue to hang out with Joe..... drumroll.... ENJOY YOUR CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY

>>16300377
They might have fulfilled their legal obligations, but as state/university employees and very visible public figures, they had a moral obligation to do more than that. That's why they are gone.

>>16300380
I don't hang out with Joe. He's just my lab partner. I don't deal with him outside of class.

And my friend Steve heard rhythmic slapping sounds coming from Joe's room and when he looked inside her face was bleeding and she was crying.

>>16300368
new mascot of Penn-State

Are people still arguing about this?

He was canned, he said he should have done more. Discussion over.

The whole world now hates pedo state and there is nothing you can do about it. Rioting is only making your shitty school look worse.

>>16300380

If someone I barely knew told me that any of my good friends raped a kid in the showers, I would've laughed in his face.

Remember when college football was about following scores and games and Xs and Os and all that shit? It's nothing but the scandal of the week these days. It's worse than a fucking soap opera.

>>16300433
and when your friend has regular access to children, you would not become concerned?

>>16300435
It was always full of scandals even in the leather helmet days. Stuff like students playing pro ball under assumed names and being allowed to cheat tests to stay on the school team were rampant back then.

>>16300433
Spoiler: This guy you barely knew was your quarterback for three seasons.

>>16300435

Here's to hoping that college sports die the death that they so rightfully deserve

This has nothing to do with sports, you ignorant faggots. Go fuck off or something, reported