Pretty much.

I don't know why so many people are defending him.

JoePa probably masturbating to kids being diddled, sick old man.

the reason he didnt do much is because he cared about football more than the kids. he didnt want to ruin his precious team at the expense of innocent kids.

now look what has happened. pandoras box motherfucker.

joe pa was raping little boys since before it was cool

why do i have a feeling joe was actually molesting as well? no sane person would let this go and act like nothing is happening. if he kills himself anytime soon you'll know that he was touchin kids too

You people are idiots if you do not think JoePa was also in on this.

The only reason he would NOT go directly to the police is because he is a rapist himself.

Think about it. If you knew somebody was raping boys youd call the fucking cops. That is a no fucking brainer.

JoePa is no better than those 17 people who walked by that girl who got ran over by two trucks.

They should all fucking burn in hell.

Wow, you're all dumbasses or trolls. Yeah JoePa fucked up but saying he's as bad or worse than Sandusky. Fuck no man, fuck no

Captcha: suppository rbelder

>>16296266
Actually he's already been cleared by the DA and was said to have completely cooperated and testified. So yeah you're the idiot.

>>16296092
You know who doesn't care more about football than kids? Women.
You know who cares more about kids than football? Pedophiles.
If I'm hiring a head fucking coach, he better damned fucking well care more about football than anything!

Either
1) JoePa didn't report Sandusky because he cares more about how his football team is viewed than he cares about the children being raped
or
2) JoePa also raped kids, and did not report it because he was a child molester as well

Either way, JoePa is a sick fuck

>>16296346
>Actually he's already been cleared by the DA

But he has not been cleared by the DA on high.

He's old as fuck and probably didn't even remember being told about the rapes.

>>16296346
>mad child molester sympathizer

You are one sick sick sick fuck. I hope you burn in hell you son of a bitch.

If I ever see you on the street I will rip your throat straight out of your chest.

>/sp/ logic

PENN STATE SCAPEGOATS
CONFERENCE CHAMPS

>>16296395
Lol'd hard

This morning I took my smibbly bibbly and turned on the telly. I saw this report and drove my motorized rollingham to the pitch to watch a football game. Everyone was just talking about handegg and how OP's pic is a pedo. I go on thinking OP's pic is a pedo coach until I go on /sp/ and find out it was a different coach. I know nothing of handegg, but why OP's coach getting blamed when it seems it was another coach that was the molester?

>you now realize that anyone who has spent 20 minutes on 4chan is as guilty as joepa, for the same crime.

>>16296435
oh. you're a troll
carry on.
might want to tone it down a bit

People are forgetting that he did go to the proper authorities

also the fact that Paterno was persuaded by others not to do more than the bare minimum.

>>16295923

lol expecting a 70 year old to remember something.

>>16296395
He died for our stock options.

>Moral outrage about child rape
>4 chan

I'm going to love it when this team wins every game they have left this season and win the fucking Rose Bowl.

>>16296502
Seriously, THIS! If you've spent any time on 4 chan, even /sp/, you'd have accidentally(I hope) seen some CP. You're all as bad as Joe PA.

>>16296579
>>public school
>>stock options

Your ignorant liberalism is showing.

>>16296582
yes, things are getting better around here. finally. i'm actually proud.

>>16296582
>implying a large portion of 4channers wouldn't go Dexter on child molesters if they could

>JoePa turns his cheek and lets a bunch of kids get raped and molested, now he has a bunch of teenagers raging behind him with support.

>Michael Vick kills a couple dogs, everybody wants him dead.

da fuck?

>>16296604
It's about yuppie Jesus. Unrelated to Joepa. Also Joepa is still alive. Your retarded paranoid pedophile wingnuttery is showing.

>>16296654
>implying a large portion of 4channers aren't basement dwelling faggots that would shit their pants if someone spoke to them using strong words

>>16296654
>he still watches Dexter

laughing sluts.ini

joepa is a scapegoat in this case.

he heard about it, but he didn't see it. is it a valid ground to report someone to the cops? not really. he did what he had to do.

according to the state law, he's only allowed to verbally notify his superior when shit goes down. so that's what he exactly did. blame his superiors for not doing the right thing.


some people.

I wish people would shut the fuck up. This is like the 1,000th "I'M SO MUCH BETTER THAN JOEPA CAUSE I WOULD HAVE TOTALLY REPORTED IT IF SOME GUY HAD COME TO ME CLAIMING TO HAVE SEEN A RAPE AND THAT WAS EVEN THE ONLY EVIDENCE I HAD. I"D BE LIKE FUCKING SUPERMAN" thread.

I'm sick of your bullshit. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. The GA should have gone to the police. Paterno only knew what someone told him and he reported it.

Plus, if you look inside yourself, you know that you would not do any more than that. Cause you are a fucking pussy. Stop acting like you're some child-saving hero on the internet, you fat degenerate.

HOLY FUCK THE MOD IS DELETING ALL THE THREADS

INB4 404

COVER UP

CALL THE POLICE

EVERYONE IS CONNECTED

WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE GRAD STUDENT WHO DIDN'T CALL THE COPS?

>>16296755
NUH UH I WOULDA BEEN SHERLOCK HOLMES AND BATMAN ON THAT NIGGA SANDUSKY DERP DERP. THEN I WOULD GO BACK IN TIME TO MAKE SURE IT NEVER HAPPENED

>>16296764

HOLY FUCK MODS ARE IN THE RAPE CIRCLE

SHIT JUST GOT REAL

4CHAN MOD INFO IS ABOUT TO BE DROPPED

HOLY SHIT

>>16296755
Sandusky coached for Joe Pa for decades. There is no way that this was the only incident and there wasa no way that Joe Pa didn't know about it.

Joe Pa told him to stop bringing kids on campus -- meaning, do it off campus and I don't care.

This is straight Roman Catholic all the way pal. Joe Pa knew about this shit for decades and did nothing.

>>16296814
MOOT WAS ONE OF THE RAPED KIDS, THEY BOUGHT HIS SILENCE BY HELPING HIM CREATE 4CHAN AND PAYING THE SERVER COSTS

>>16296832

joepa found out about it in 2002. 3 years after sandusky had retired.

no doubt sandusky had done it before, but how is joepa meant to know? jesus.

>>16296832
>This is straight Roman Catholic all the way pal.

Yes, there is a little peculiar tradition in the Roman Catholic faith...

>Middle Class Americans
>Not fucking little kids in the halls of Yale University in the hidden torture rooms

1%
Fucking little kids
Schooling the American people
$33,000,000 salaries

So fucking alpha

look at joepa's fucking glasses

sandusky could be raping a kid 3 feet in front of him and he wouldn't have fucking seen it

>>16296875
no. Sandusky was investigated for molesting kids in 1998. right after that he was forced into retirement. You're telling me Paterno knew nothing about why he was leaving? No, he knew.

>>16296832
>Sandusky coached for Joe Pa for decades.
Fact.
>There is no way that this was the only incident
Seems to be factual
>and there wasa no way that Joe Pa didn't know about it.
Source required for any incident other than 2002/victim 2
>Joe Pa told him to stop bringing kids on campus-- meaning, do it off campus and I don't care.
False. Curley and Schultz did that. Contrary to apparent popular belief, Joe Pa is not the all powerful disciplinary god of PSU, just of the football team. Sandusky was already gone for 3 years in 2002.
>This is straight Roman Catholic all the way pal.
Cute
>Joe Pa knew about this shit for decades and did nothing.
Possible, but not factually founded.

>>16296912

what the fuck was he meant to do? sandusky was investigated by the cops, but was he charged? he can't go 'ok im calling on the cops now' when he has no evidence at all.

>>16296931
Curley and Schultz did not make any decisions regarding Sandusky without first consulting Paterno. They knew the two were not only long time co-workers, but close friends.

GUYS WHAT IF JOE PA WAS THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY DID IT BUT SANDUSKY TOOK THE BLAME?

Why is it his fucking responsibility? He's nothing but a football coach and now he's taking the fall.

Why is no one rioting over Graham Spanier getting fired??

>>16296991
president and other higher ups already resigned you fucking idiot

>>16296958
thats not the point. when you take that incident, then his retirement, THEN the incident in 2002... YOU WOULD THINK... okay, time to revoke his access to the fucking facilities, no more office for him, time to call in the authorities and time to try to get this motherfucker and those kids some help.

Nope.

>>16296991
Because he knew that children were being raped and he refused to alert the police.

>>16296967
>Curley and Schultz did not make any decisions regarding Sandusky without first consulting Paterno.
Source?

Hearsay at best.

>>16296967

your point is? schulz and curley were paterno's superiors, so they obv had more power over him. unless you can actually back up your claim, your point is a moot point.


he found out about it in 2002, and he did what he had to do. that's that.

tell me, is there anything he could've done better? he can't call the cops because even though he might know about it, he has no evidence to back it up.

not to mention that sandusky had undergone an investigation + was not charged by the police

ESPN totally had this paterno retrospective ready incase he died. Now they get to use it because he fucked up so bad the most untouchable guy in college sports got fired

>>16297035
>he did what he had to do

yeah, thats why he's been shit canned and apologetic. youre wrong, dickhead.

>>16297009
>okay, time to revoke his access to the fucking facilities, no more office for him,

Well, they did do that.

>time to call in the authorities and time to try to get this motherfucker

Paterno had no evidence. He had only something that a GA told him. That's not grounds to open an investigation. I'm sorry, but it just isn't.

The GA should have gone to the police instead of taking a promotion.

>>16297009

he has no power over it, though. sandusky's access to penn state facility was revoked by the president, after hearing the report from paterno's supervisors.

there's really nothing paterno can do.

>>16297014

because he's not allowed to do it based on PA state law.

he probably can get away with it if he could provide a decent evidence, but he didn't have any. words of mouth isn't a good evidence.

>>16296500

>I know nothing of handegg, but why OP's coach getting blamed when it seems it was another coach that was the molester?

Because Paterno is a living legend. He was the head coach of Penn State football for over 40 years. He even worked for free, outside of campus housing and utilites; he donated his entire paycheck back to the school. Him coaching Penn State was like a universal constant, like gravity, and taxes.

Anyway 8 years ago, this guy Jerry Sandusky raped a kid in Penn State's lockerroom. A grad assistant saw it and reported it to Paterno. Now, Sandusky used to be Paterno's Defensive Coordinator, but he retired in 1999 (he still had access to the lockerrooms as part of his severance package the Athletic Director, and the Board of Trustees gave him when he resigned). So Joe basically said "What the fuck do you want me to do?"

So the next day he meets with Curley, the head of the school athletic department, and Schultz, the Senior VP of the University, and supervisor of the University Park Police Department.

Noone knows what happens after that. Apparently there was some kind of investigation, but that obviously never lead to an arrest.

Fast Forward to a week ago, and Sandusky is arrested by the State Police for the rape, and Curley and Schultz are arrested for felony perjury for lying under oath about the rape.

Oh, and Sandusky apparently raped a bunch of other kids before that, but the State College PD and the Centre County Sheriff dropped the charges, and the family settled out of court.

So clearly you can see how Joe Paterno is an innocence-killing pedophile who deserves to be burned at the stake.

>>16297054

because fucking media is onto him.

he takes the bullet for penn state, for god's sake. did you see spanier's apology? no you didn't, and you would've though he'd be the one to apologize since he's the one who deals with this type of situation directly

>>16297074
>So Joe basically said "What the fuck do you want me to do?"

No, he didn't. He went to the university and the PD. He did what was expected of him not only legally, but morally, when faced with only the testament from another person.

Do you know how police investigation works? Paterno's "testimony" (which amounts to a testimony that this other guy testified to him) is nothing.

>the family settled out of court.

Okay, stfu then. You do know what a settlement is you mental midget.

I guess their child's 'innocence' has a price after all.

>>16297069

>defending a person who enabled child molestation

>>16297123

He referred the witness to the AD and the PD. Which is just as good. Better in fact. Eyewitness testimony is a whole lot better than hearsay.

>>16295923

>JoePa is worse than Sandusky if you think about it.

Of all the stupid opinions surrounding this mess, this was about the worst.

>>16296755
>>16296777
^This, helllooooooooooooooo
how can you be an eyewitness to something like this and not call the cops??? i guess you have to be a MCQUEARY to understand. seriously, fuck that guy, paterno's innocent by comparison. he wouldn't have had anything to tell police anyway, other than "yo dawg, i herd jerry lieks shouta." mcqueary was the only possible source of eyewitness testimony, and the only chance of the law intervening on victim 2's behalf.

>>16297168

>Alert the de facto chief of police
>enabled child molestation

>>16297168

4chan as a whole enable cp if that's how you're gonna turn the argument.

brb calling the cops because someone posted cp on 4chan

>>16297168

what do you tards think the odds of PSU having a football program next year is

I'm guessing about 15%, they will most likely give penn state the death penalty

>>16297126

Hey ace attorney, sometimes you settle out of court because there is a possibility he could be proven innocent in court. This was you get a large amount of cash regardless for pain and suffering.

>>16297211

im probably ok with this. we pay so much tuition and most of them go to sport/ athletic program. i don't give a fuck personally, and this could lead to a cheaper tuition (i guess)

but penn state is known for its school pride (or lack thereof atm) so i'm not sure how its gonna plan out

>>16297211
maybe. Although, are there any glaring ncaa penalties. i know pedos are wrong, but is there a rule in the ncaa book that could get the penn state football program for this?

>Finds out your friend is raping little boys in your locker room
>Tell your boss
>Allow your friend to bring kids to your locker room for 10 more years
>Is Joe Paterno

>>16297206

>>16297211
I don't know what would make me more happy; Penn State getting the death penalty or it turning out that that kid really is Bieber's. Either way shit piles of people would be assdestroyed.

Did JoePa break the law? Probably not.

Joe Paterno is like the manager of a nuclear power plant's cooling system. One day, a worker goes up to him and tells him that there is a critical problem with one of the reactors. Joe then tells the plan manager that there's a slight problem, but action isn't really required. The reactor runs and blows up, and alot of people suffer for it.

According to Penn State fans, the "plant manager" is the one to blame, when the cooling system manager (read: JoePa) didn't deliver all of the information. They would have the dumbass cooling system manager keep working.

This is basically what I understand after reading the Grand Jury's report.

>>16297192
>>16297192

yep, mcqueery should be fucked. he saw a guy with his dick in a young boy, and he called his dad. of course from this we see the nut doesn't fall far from the tree, as dear ol' dad's response was to gtfo and tell paterno.

what he should have done was grabbed the nearest dumbbell and stomped the shit out of the child rapist, then called the cops to come clean up.

but he had his future coaching job to worry about. he tells on this guy, who knows how many more boy pounders there are out there in ncaa land who woudn't hire him after that. hell, even the straight ones wouldn't want him for fear he'd tell on their hookers and blow.

>>16297241

people are so misinformed i wanna kill myself

>>16297241

I can tell you don't know how the justice system works, specifically the part about innocent until proven guilty.

>Find out your friend is raping little boys in the university locker room
>Tell your boss and the cops
>Find out friend is still coming around the locker room because the university won't take his keys away
>Try to stop him
>Get sued for slander

>>16297245

>>16297238
>but is there a rule in the ncaa book that could get the penn state football program for this?

dude

DUDE

I mean... DUDE

Look, you might be half-right in that there's nothing DIRECTLY addressing this situation in the NCAA rulebook. That's irrelevant. They'll nail Penn State on some general clause, maybe "failing to uphold the standards of" yadda yadda. It'll probably be something with a moralistic bent that allows the NCAA to say "hey, this says we can toss you if you're being a bunch of cunts."

>>16297290
>drive

got goosebumps

love that movie

>>16297203
this is true

we report it to the mods and then it's in their hands. not our fault if they don't do anything about it.

>>16297290 people are so misinformed i wanna kill myself

What part of that post was wrong?

>>16297301

>Implying this isn't a problem above the NCAA's pay grade

This case is about the law, not some petty rule violation. The NCAA isn't going to do shit to Penn State the media hasn't already.

Eh, the public and media just love a fucking witch hunt when shit like this goes down. I bet if you asked some people they would want to see Paterno and anyone else associating with Sandusky jailed because they didn't do their 'moral obligation' of saving a child. Listen, yes Paterno probably should have done more but to make him out to be as bad as Sandusky? To assert that he should face serious jail time? Give me a fucking break...get your emotions in check people.

>>16297335
Not when we're talking about the death penalty for the program.

>>16297325

his access to university facilities is revoked after sandusky got found out

>>16297289
McQueary might have the blackball card to save his ass if the rapist and Paterno threatening to ruin him and keep him from ever coaching big time football as the reason why he kept quiet.

Given how beloved Paterno was, he could have done that shit as far as threatening to crush Mikey's dreams of a career as a coach if he didn't shut up (and probably gave him his Penn State job as a means to ensure his silence).

>>16297361

PSU's football team shouldn't be punished. the players shouldn't be held accountable.

Why would the NCAA do anything?

They'd be punishing the current players and the new staff... Everyone involved with this incident (barring faggot McQueary) is already gone... And the huge recruiting hit will likely be punishment enough.

The hammer needs to come down on Sandusky and anyone who lied/omitted information to cover up for him. Anything past that is just adding more people to the list of those affected by this bullshit

>>16297312
they do as much as they can, which is permaban the IP. But this is a completely different, please realize this my son. for one, on 4chan, the CP is basically anonymous photos taken by a sicko photographer, basically anonymous. Then you have Jerry Sandusky, a known offender that has allegedly committed rape on a child, and you have someone close and personal to him, Joe Paterno, find out about this from someone else. random anonymous pics behind 7 proxies on 4chan you or the mods can do nothing about and someone you know in real life who is close to you that you know might be a rapist are completely different bro.

>>16297379

i bet you think tupac is still alive

>>16297382
Absolutely everyone involved with this shit won't be around next football season. They aren't going to punish the admin just coming in.

NCAA isn't doing shit.

>>16296344

He enabled Sandusky to rape those kids. If you don't thing he is just as responsible then you're one stupid mother fucker.

>>16297361

>death penalty

For what? What rule did they break? Honestly? They don't give the death penalty for scandals, no matter how horrible. They give it for schools who won't stop cheating.

If they did put sanctions on the school for this, Penn State will have their ass in court.

>>16297364
Except it wasn't. He was seen working out in the weight rooms as recent as last fucking week. All anybody in the organization said to Sandusky was to try not shower with little boys on our campus again after 1998.

>>16297379
This post is 100 % fiction.

You're aware of that, right? Its a fucking gigantic extrapolation. As of right now, the only people that know the details of the convo between JoePa and McQueary are JoePa and McQueary.

And Paterno is supposedly coming out tomorrow to tell everyone exactly what went down in that 02 conversation.

>>16297385
because everyone from paterno through the AD knew this shit was going on, and yet this creep still kept using the penn state locker room as his personal bachelor pad for kiddies

it's total systemic failure and if it's decided that this was all covered up to protect the football program then there's no way they let PSU play football next year

>>16297413
has there ever been a scandal this bad in college sports? this is way way way worse than any recruiting violation.

we give teachers and educators a measure of trust with children, they are put into a position of power and there are certain responsibilities that they assume

and PSU totally failed on the most serious ones

just listened to the comments on how it was "good business" firing JoPa. kinda want to shop a pic of the Commodore from Pirates of the Caribbean saying it was just "good business" and link it to the PennState board.

captcha: Confucian

>>16297468
So should they suspend Penn State basketball too? How about volleyball?

After all, they'll have exactly as many current members involved with this scandal by the time next season rolls around. And the AD/VP/President presided over them too.

>>16297364 his access to university facilities is revoked after sandusky got found out

You didn't read the PDF, did you?

Sandusky met victim 8 while the kid was attending a Second Mile camp at the Penn. State campus. This happened in 2008.

JoePa found out about the "rhythmic slapping noise" incident in 2002. He could've stopped this years ago and prevented the rape of Victim 8, but he did nothing.

>>16297399

its no different, really. it's probably worse, since we'd actually seen the cps, making us as a witness.

paterno didn't witness anything, and there's really nothing he can do about it.

he can't call the cops because he has no evidence. he can't do anything to sandusky because, well, he's not sandusky's superior anymore.

>>16297532
He went to the AD and the VP who was also the head of campus police.

And we don't know that McQueary gave him the full story. Paterno testified only that it was disturbing and inappropriate, but has said that he never got the full details either.

McQueary was the one with tight lips here. Why, we don't know yet.

>>16297535

There was an eye witness to the rape. This is more than enough information to begin an investigation, but nobody wanted to tarnish the reputation of the football program.

>>16297532

Paterno doesn't run the campus. He has no power over Sandusky. The President is the one who should be held accountable in this case. He did what he had to ACCORDING to the law. And also, according to the law, there isn't so much that he can actually do except, you know, telling the supervisor about what's going down.

Sure, he probably knows about it from people, but is it enough evidence? Keep in mind that Sandusky had been investigated before.

and I said access to Penn State facilities, not Penn State campus in general. Though I agree that he should barred from campus, it was not Paterno's decision. Everything was decided by the president.

>>16297531
Quite possibly yes. This shitstorm isn't going to stop with Paterno, this is probably the worst scandal in college sports ever.

Yeah it sucks for the kids who don't get to play football anymore, and it sucks for the fans to have to go through that, but this whole situation is so fucked up that there will to be major major ramifications.

>>16297574

there was 2 eye witnesses, but they didn't testify. And yes, the assistant might've feared that he'd lose his job (conspiracy theory) but the janitor really had nothing to lose since he wasn't even a permanent employee.

And again, these two eye witnesses have nothing to do with Paterno, because it doesn't make Paterno witnesses everything.

>>16297587

Sandusky was spotted that the school gy last week. He was never banned from the facilities.

>>16297594
But that's ridiculous. Its the equivalent of bombing a village because there's a criminal there. Why punish so many for the crimes of so few?

Find out who covered it up and punish them. No reason to ruin the potential careers of these players. Let them move on with their lives, or as I said earlier, you're just adding to the list of people who have been negatively affected by this mess.

>>16297587
Yeah and people who don't want someone who performed his specific legal requirements for this situation - and nothing further - in a position of authority with kids. They don't want someone who continued to let this guy on campus with little kids, to have any further association with the university.

You are being naive if you think Paterno fulfilled his ethical responsibilities as an educator, and as a decent human being.

>>16297594
They aren't retards, they know ramifications for the football team isn't going to do anything but add to the list of people affected by this.

>>16297633

This.

This is the witchhunt mob mentality of the 18 year olds who now control the national dialogue thanks to new media.

>>16297633
>But that's ridiculous. Its the equivalent of bombing a village because there's a criminal there. Why punish so many for the crimes of so few?

Why do you think that Afghanistan is a total mess now and Pakistan is in a state of chaos?

What I'm curious about is what happened after the original investigation in 1998. Suddenly Sandusky went from being the head coach-in-waiting to retired at age 55 despite the official investigation not finding anything wrong. Did they think forcing him into retirement would make him stop raping kids or something?

>>16297668
But this isn't new media. ESPN has been going apeshit all week

>>16297651

Is it really ethical, though? Accusing of someone based on someone's else words? Paterno really had no power over this shit, really. Fair enough if he did witness the abuse, but he didn't. He heard it from his assistant. Shouldn't his assistant be the one who's responsible to testify in this case?

I mean, it might not be ethical to some people, but it's just the way legal system works. The state law prohibits Paterno to take any action over the case. He has to go through Curley and Schultz.

He's limited to what he can actually do. Tell me what he could've done when reporting the act is out of the window?

>>16297633

Lots of people get fucked in the aftermath of scandals like this. You think enron's employees deserved to get fucked like they did, because of the improprieties of their bosses?

The whole athletic program totally failed in this situation, and it even looks on the surface that they actually facilitated further child rapings by letting this guy use the locker rooms as a sex pad, and his connections to PA football as a bribe for little kids.

You can't just let the athletics department get off the hook for that. Above and beyond everyone's head rolling, it's going to take years to recover from this.

http://youtu.be/sNUTh82ARnQ

>>16297651
Let's assume for a moment that Paterno's testimony was accurate and all he was told was that McQueary witnessed something "inappropriate and disturbing"

Can you call the police and be like: "SANDUSKY WAS BEING INAPPROPRIATE, YOU SHOULD LOOK OUT, K?"

No.
You go to the higher ups and say "hey guys, you should look into this, there's rumors that Sandusky is acting strangely." Unfortunately both higher ups are corrupt, and Paterno is now taking the fall with them.

Why McQueary acted as he did is a complete mystery as well then.

>>16297669
...That's my point exactly.

So we should just keep on making those mistakes, this time with our own people? Or should we handle something right for once?

BTW, I'd be seriously surprised if any ramifications came down on the athletics program. I think its highly unlikely.

>>16297708

yeah ESPN must really have something against PSU, I don't ever recall them calling for somebody's head like they have been. granted, they are right in calling for the firings, but its been nonstop.

>>16297699
Yeah that's an interesting missing piece. If JoePa knew specifics about that incident it really puts his position into question

>>16297724
So you tell the grad assistant to go to the cops. You don't sweep it under the rug and continue to let this guy go on his merry molesting way.

>>16297743
If the NBA wasn't locked out, ESPN would have something to report on, and JoePa might still have a job.

Trufax

>>16297743
When has anything like this ever happened before? With children being raped in a large University locker room by a former coach (and close friend of a legend like Paterno), and it going on for years and years? And that people actually knew about it and didn't do much, if anything, to stop it It's unprecedented.

how come hosts on philly radio stations like The Fanatic calling for Joe's immediate firing from Penn State and saying it would be ridiculous if he worked another day and random Philly callers calling in and agreeing but saying they still look to Joe Pa basically as a family member? It's not just ESPN, it's everyone over 20 years old who doesn't live in the Penn State bubble. Joe Pa might be completely innocent, but just for the fact that he was the man in charge when the shit went down makes him liable. Liability folks, you lose your job over it.

>>16297783

then shouldn't the assistant tell the cops? But he didn't. If I saw someone killed a person, I don't need to tell my boss, do I?

The only reason why Paterno had to report to his superiors was because he had no concrete evidence. If you witnessed the whole thing, however, I'm sure you can always call the cops and testify.

But he didn't do it.

Burn Penn State down to the ground.

Wow, glad to see /sp/ being more reasonable and level-headed about this than my facebook news feed, which is full of PENN STATE PRIDE and other various apologies for child rape.

College football is in need of a serious overhaul, if not just getting killed.

>>16297743
What have Bobby Bowden and Lou Holtz been up to recently?

ESPN totally shilled for the rehabilitation of Michael Vick. Suddenly they grow ethics when it comes to a guy failing to repeatedly pester the cops to make sure they're investigating zealously?

>>16297885
Yeah no shit

>Kill dozens of dogs
Oh its ok, he served his time
>improperly handle a serious rumor
BURN. BURN HIM.

>>16297885

But he never called the cops... he told his friend who has authority over the campus police (who are basically rent-a-cops).

ATTENTION ALL RETARDS IN THIS THREAD

THIS IS THE INDICTMENT. IT CONTAINS EVERYTHING KNOWN THUS FAR ABOUT THE CASE

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Presentment.pdf

TO FIND OUT SPECIFICALLY HOW PATERNO IS INVOLVED, SCROLL TO PAGE 6, VICTIM 2

THE MORE YOU KNOW...

>>16297885
there's more to it than that and you know it. this guy was a future HC and was unceremoniously shoved out of his job in 1998, and they let him keep coming back to PSU to rape kids in the locker room.

on top of that everyone knows vick is a thug and a jackass. we're talking about a university employee and revered educator. this is not something that teachers can tolerate.

>>16297801
The same kind of long-winded moralizing has been going by Pittsburgh's sports radio station DJ's. The outrage was so phony and self-righteous that I felt embarrassed listening to it for more than 30 seconds.

>>16297918
They aren't rent-a-cops, they are certified municipal cops. They carry guns and arrest and prosecute people. Penn State has it's own zip code.

>>16297947
phony? Self-righteous? What are you even talking about?

>>16297918
>who are basically rent a cops

you're ignorant. Penn State campus is not in State College, it's in University Park. University park has it's own police force with all the authority of any other municipal police force. Those officers are the ones Schultz had authority over

>>16297924
>mfw yet again wrestling is used as an excuse to fondle male genitals

>>16297947
i can sympathize actually. it makes me feel kind of disgusted that this sort of behavior was tolerated and covered up by a revered educational institution. you're supposed to be able to trust teachers to look out for kids' well being, and they totally failed in every way.

>Told by a graduate assistant in 2002 that former Nittany Lions defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky had sexually assaulted a boy, believed to be 10 years old, in the showers of Penn State's football complex, Paterno did nothing more than inform athletics director Tim Curley and university vice president Gary Schultz of the allegations. Paterno never personally called police. His son, Scott Paterno, told the Philadelphia Inquirer on Wednesday that his father never even asked Sandusky -- his assistant coach for three decades and who was once considered his heir apparent -- about the incident.

What a fucking dickless douchebag.

>mfw it's 2 AM and I want to fap but in the back of my head I keep thinking about this

>>16297992

that's the state law... he's not supposed to call the cops or take any action regarding to the case. he's only able to inform his superior since he's not a witness.

>>16298014
he could've called the police


....at risk of this happening: http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/29730187/detail.html

>>16297961
It's hard to explain. Yes it's obviously terrible and the situation can be enraging, but for the past two days, whenever I turn on the sports station, the DJ is in mid sentence yelling into the microphone about how evil Paterno. Literally yelling. The entire time. The amount of moralizing just seemed phony, and it was certainly self-righteous. I'm not even remotely a Penn State fan, either.

>>16298014
if it was anything less than child molestation or murder you might be able to pull the 'he did was he was required to the letter of the law' excuse

but diddling kiddies is like the #1 thing that pisses people off, and even someone who knows about it is morally obliged to do more than what he did

people put themselves in his position and feel that they definitely would have done more. and they probably would have, it's pretty obvious that if you know child rape is going down you should probably do something about it

>>16298036
oh, it wasn't like that at all on the Fanatic. The hosts were pretty calm and cool, there was no yelling whatsoever. They weren't saying he wasn't evil. I didn't interpret it as phony at all, i interpreted it as unbiased because they were all pretty level-headed

>>16298014

He could've told the witness to call the cops.

>>16298028
man you crazy JoePa sympathizes sure did some serious googling to find a situation where someone got in trouble for reporting child abuse

>implying JoePa isn't one of the most powerful men on campus
>implying he wouldn't have been a hero for exposing this scandal 10 years ago

the testimonies of mcqueary and paterno matched, what he was told about what had happened in the showers was extremely vague

he was essentially told something inappropriate

>>16297992
Look up the word hearsay, fool.

>>16298049

that is the thing, though. he actually reported it to the cops (indirectly, of course). but the authority failed to react. is it really his fault?

Not only was there the shit with McQueery, there was the entire Victim 1 incident as well with the High School.

Basically, Paterno placed the football program above actively confronting and turning in a serial child rapist.

Anyone who disputes this is a fucking retard and should go drink bleach.

>>16298067
*they weren't saying he is evil

typo my bad

>>16298093
this is why he doesn't have to go to prison like the higher up administrators do

funniest was that guy Curley's lawyer who was like screaming that her client did nothing wrong

>>16298014
but he never even talked to Sandusky about it. that's what makes him dickless.

>>16298028

>implying Joe Fucking Paterno would have been fired for such an action
>implying Joe Paterno wouldn't have been hailed as a hero and model of morality and good citizenship he built himself up as for decades
>implying that if Joe Paterno was fired for taking that course of action the PSU riots that happened tonight wouldn't be completely justified

>2011
>defending Joe Paterno
.
I seriously hope you retards dont do this.

>>16298067
Ah, these guys on The Fan over here have been hissing like baboons for the past two days. I can't even listen to it anymore, and since all the music stations are terrible I'm pretty much fucked when I'm driving.

>>16298153
no one is assmuncher

>>16298138
>he doesn't know how investigations work

talking to Sandusky could have royally fucked up an investigation. We know one never took place, but at the time Joe didn't know that.

>>16298014
>he's not supposed to call the cops or take any action regarding to the case.

Bullshit, you can call 911 for almost any emergency that you feel requires it. If I'm in a position of power and someone runs up to me and tells me an old man is raping a 10 year old in my building... I pick up the fucking phone and call 911. Then I run over to the shower to help a kid and kick someones ass.

>>16298171
the GA reported the incident to Paterno that next day and was vague about what he saw

>>16298124
i think people feel more negatively about it because the abuse continued happening, and this guy was still around on campus with little kids, even though they knew what was up

and it really hurts paterno's position that he is such a revered coach and basically untouchable. he probably has more influence there than the university president, probably more than some local politicians. a guy like that choosing to cover it up is just unfathomable, and since he knew the guy and was his like #2 assistant coach, people probably feel that he was covering for his buddy and on some level tolerating the continual rape that was going on

>>16298171
>>16298171

>not beating the shit out of the guy first and then calling 911

>>16298154
you sound like you have been listening a lot more than I have, I was just listening to the online stream for the latter part of the day, I guess i caught the butt end when people were getting their heads about them

>>16298162
give me a fucking break. there was no investigation, moron. zilch. never happened.

they took sandusky's keys to the locker room and told him not to bring kids around anymore. that was it.

in the 8 years that went by Paterno never talked to Sandusky about this. that's what makes him dickless.

>>16298171

>I pick up the fucking phone and call 911. Then I run over to the shower to help a kid and kick someones ass.

>>16298171
Ok, but what if you're in a position of power and someone tells you they saw someone doing something inappropriate with a kid?

Do you call 9/11 and go "I have an emergency! Something inappropriate happened yesterday!"

>>16298179
no, paterno is only saying he was vague to cover his ass. but he wasn't vague.

>>16298171

yes, except he didn't find out until like 2 days later. and he didn't have a concrete proof that it actually happened. i don't think you can report someone without an actual proof.


the assistant probably supposed to call as soon as he found out about it, though.

>>16298196
the GA testified to the grand jury that he was vague as well

>>16298191

You're actually so stupid it's sad. People of your ilk is the reason shit like this happens.

>>16298182
>implying Paterno knowingly was "covering up" anything

You people are getting more delusional with every post.

>>16298208
His silence was bought by his future job.

>>16298214
What do you do in that situation?

Instead of just resorting to insults, answer the question. Because Paterno is saying that he wasn't told the full details of what McQueary saw.

>>16298214


you're stupid. you have to have a concrete evidence to report something. you can't report a case out of the blue. paterno isn't the witness, the ga is. he's the one who's supposed to make a call, not paterno.

>>16298191
yes, you call 911 and say "hey, i have this guy here... he used to work for me... he was investigated in 1998 for molesting kids in our shower here... now Im being told by someone that they saw him having sex with a 10 year old yesterday in the shower. I think something is terribly wrong."

how hard is that? the only reason why you wouldn't do that is to protect the image of the program, because you knew he was doing that shit in 1998 and even then didn't do much to stop it. Now it happened again. A lot of people would look very bad if it ever got out.

>>16298196
nice, so now we can just bullshit and pass it off as truth?

anyway, mcquearys testimony matched, he said what he reported to paterno was vague

>>16298230

"i'm being told"

there goes your credibility

>>16298226

>you're stupid. you have to have a concrete evidence to report something.

Forgive me, but I think this is false.

>>16298224
That needs to be demonstrated.

>>16298222
not covering up dude. And "getting more delusional" is just false, people have been saying the same shit over and over. but back to my point, he wasn't necessarily "covering up" anything but maybe he was preserving the values of the institution that he had built over his 50 year tenure, did you ever think of that? Seriously, how the fuck would Paterno react if he heard about his D-coordinator -taking a shower with a boy- think about that. He knew everything would just fall apart, and he decided to do the bare minimum to preserve the sanctity of Penn State, which was morally wrong.

>2 or 3 retards defending Joe Paterno

not sure if they're trolling or genuinely retarded...

>>16298230
>now Im being told by someone that they saw him having sex with a 10 year old yesterday in the shower
You wouldn't know this detail. That's my point.

What Paterno was told amounted to nothing but a rumor because of the vagueness left in by McQueary. Why he did that I don't know.

>>16298242

You're Joe fucking Paterno. And the police have a file on Sandusky from a previous Child Abuse case. His credibility would be fine.

>>16298255
>losing arguments
>indirectly throw around insults

Well you can probably tap out now.

>>16298263

Paterno knew it was "sexual", "disturbing", maybe "fondling" happening. Those were his words. Either way, it is illegal and more than enough for authorities to look into Sandusky, who already had already previously been investigated for child molestation.

>>16298269
Yeah, I love how people are acting like Paterno was some faceless middle-manager who had no influence or credibility.

>>16298287
>implying

not him, but the faggots arguing in defense of Joe Pa are completely delusional.

>>16298301

the people calling for his head are overly-emotional, everyone fucking loses here.

inb4 moralfaggotry

>>16298254
You're making a shit ton of speculations and assumptions about the motives of the people involved, and with every post you're convincing yourself that this is the truth. Hence, more delusional with every post.

ESPNs coverage has been completely irresponsible and has cost Paterno his job and livelihood

>>16298322
dude ignoring reports of child abuse is a serious crime, I think you're the delusional one. like, university administrators are almost certainly going to jail. depending on what happens, paterno might even be looking at jail time.

>>16298329
Yay mass media!
woo...

Its almost symbolic really... Paterno the old fashioned football coach in his mid 80's, taken down by the hype and craziness of a changing world.

>>16298332

he didn't ignore it. he reported it.

>>16298332
>ignoring

but that's wrong

and the grand jury has cleared him of wrongdoing legally

it's funny that everyone that is attacking Joe has to result to ifs and buts or straight up lies

>>16298332

> implying Joe Pa "ignored" reports of "child abuse"

There's a problem with the "ignored" part and "reports of child abuse" part with what you said. I'll let you figure out why.

>>16298345
yeah, and that might get him off the hook. don't be surprised if he suffers serious legal ramifications though. losing his job is going to seem insignificant.

>>16298300
I love how people are condeming him for not immediately suspending his coaching position at the time and becoming a full time detective on the case after having reported it to the proper authorities.

>>16298332
>ignoring

Oh shit nigga what are you doing.

>>16298356
penn state university ignored reports of child abuse

until last week this guy was still around on campus molesting kids, when they knew he was doing it back as far as 2002 or 1998

joe pa is one of the most powerful guys on campus, and he knew about it

what part of that dont you understand

>>16298361

> was told a vague story about something that might have happened
> reported it immediately
> police and powers of investigation in the school dealt with it inappropriately

HURR DURR JOE PA MIGHT JUST GO TO JAIL FOR HIS ACTIONS

Wow Penn State are absolutely disgusting. Fire a legendary coach who has coached their football team for decades to great success and donated $4million over the years to the university. They could of at the very least let him coach the team till the end of the season and then see him retire. But no they fired him because of media pressure even though he didn't rape any young boys or do anything wrong.

How do we know Joe Pa wasn't in on the whole thing and he himself wasn't actually the grand master rhythmic slapper? Makes you think huh?

>>16298352
What lies? He knew that someone who worked for him was molesting kids and he kept him on his staff? Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean you shouldn't be fired for it.

>>16298322
shit ton?

What the fuck are you talking about.

There is no argument that Sandusky sexually abused several boys several times. It's confirmed.

This shit happened before anyone knew, Sandusky retired in 99, but retained access to Penn State. Assistant told Paterno in 2002 that shit was going down... And Sandusky STILL RETAINED ACCESS TO THE UNIVERSITY UNTIL JUST NOW. THATS 9 FUCKING YEARS OF NOTHING AFTER HEARING THAT YOUR FORMER D-COORDINATOR MIGHT BE A SEXUAL PREDATOR. HOW CAN ANY FUCKING MAN SIT ON AN EGG FOR 9 YEARS???

PATERNO DIDN'T COMMIT A CRIME, HE'S NOT GUILTY FOR A LAWFUL CRIME, BUT HIM GETTING FIRED IMMEDIATELY FROM PENN STATE IS WARRANTED BECAUSE SANDUSKY ROAMED THE PENN STATE CAMPUS FOR 9 FUCKING YEARS AFTER THE FACT.

>>16298384

Don't forget they decided to do so only a day after the story broke, you know before any real evidence actually came out.

Due process of law? LOL what's that supposed to mean?

Stay classy, Penn State.

>>16298384
The university president didn't rape anyone either and he certainly deserved to be fired for his part in it, as did Joe

Well there still seems to be idiots on here making arguments without knowing dick about the case, so...

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>>16298388
>He knew that someone who worked for him was molesting kids and he kept him on his staff?

there ya go, that's a lie

he wasn't even a coach for Paterno in 2002, he was retired.

>>16298388

> He knew

Dem mindreading powers

>>16298396
lol'd at the speaker at the press conference tonight said "we don't know all the facts..."

yet goes on to fire him anyway

it's quite obvious who ITT has read the grand jury report, and who are arguing based solely on what the media has told them

>>16298412
OK, he knew someone who kept an office and had access to the facilities that he controls was a child molester and allowed him to keep it

>>16298390
Who cares if Sandusky roamed campus for 9 years, college students are too old for him to be interested

>>16298413
or because he admitted to being told about it by the GA? I don't have to read his mind when he said it

>>16298441
>he knew someone.....was a child molester

jesus christ, more made up information. This is exactly what I'm talking about.

>>16298390
You understand that Paterno can't ban people from Penn State's campus, right? That falls on Spanier and Schultz.

He was a football coach, not the campus president. That's why he reported it to his higher ups. When Sandusky was still there all those years, JoePa must have thought that the investigation came to nothing.

Mcqueary, Schultz, Spanier, Curley=definitely at fault

Paterno? Its questionable. We don't know what he knew at this time. We only know what was reported to him, not what he thought came of it.

To me, the most interesting part of this dynamic is why Mcqueary was ok with him still running around. He sees this guy raping a kid in the shower, and then isn't weirded out when he's still there 3, 5, 10 years later?

Something is definitely missing in this case. Whether that's a global cover up or what is a mystery. To be honest, I think it went right over JoePa's head, in the form of a threat on Mcqueary's job in the meeting that Paterno wasn't at between Curley/Schultz and McQueary. Its the only thing that really ties up the loose ends for me.

>>16298452
He was told he was a child molester, are you seriously implying that he did not know this? Are you retarded?

>>16298443
Who cares? The board of trustees care because they fired Joe Paterno and Joe Paterno cares because he got fired and fags all over /sp/ care because they love Joe Paterno like a grandfather or some shit, and not only that but in 9 years time Sandusky raped more children. Getting tired of trolls.

>>16298462
Oh please...Paterno could do whatever the fuck he wanted with the facilities.

BREAKING NEWS: Penn State University cafe worker fired for once serving coffee to Joe Paterno. Board of trustees comment on the firing - "We had no other choice"

>>16298468
>more made up information

everything people attacking Joe say is just not true. Pretty sad

>>16298452
this is true. he was well aware of sandusky's affinity for donkin' boy bottoms.

>>16298476
Seriously, you are delusional.

BREAKING NEWS: Joe Pa to become consultant for Catholic Church, lends expertise in covering up child molestation.

>>16298463
you don't have a child molestor on campus for 15+ years and not know about it. especially if you get caught over and over like this guy did. like, I would guess probably half the faculty suspected it. rumors and whatever are going to go around about how that guy is "really" attached to young boys

>>16298468
He's a football coach. Not a private detective, a police officer, or a grand marshall.

He reported it to his higher ups and moved on.

It's not just ESPN. Philly reporters are/were calling for Paterno's head. They could smell a career making story and ran with it

>>16298482
There is no way any of you honestly don't think Paterno knew what was going on the whole time. I know you want to defend everything he does but I can assure you Paterno knows what goes on with his football team. I love how he came out and said he "shocked" like two days ago, he couldn't have been too shocked because he knew about it in 2002. I can't wait until all the lies and cover up comes out

>>16298463
You're a child molester.

Now go report yourself to the police you dumb fuck.

>>16298508
And he deserves to be fired for that.

So what if Jerry Sandusky is found innocent by his trial, can JoePa sue the school for firing him for no reason?

>>16298527
Yes

>>16298462
What I'm saying is that a fuck ton of people are in the wrong, not just Joe Paterno, and Mcqueary ESPECIALLY. They should all lose their jobs and some of them should be prosecuted. Paterno might be least guilty of them all but he still deserves to lose his job because even though he's the coach, he's basically considered top dog at Penn State and this shit flew under his tenure. He shouldn't be allowed to coach there. New coach. Clean shop.

>>16298524
>deserving to be fired for doing what he's supposed to do

>>16298515
>I can assure you Paterno knows what goes on with his football team
Sandusky wasn't on the team in 2002 when Paterno heard about the shower incident

>>16298553
What he's supposed to do is call the police and then follow up on the situation.

>>16298451

> told vague broken information in hearsay like form about a potential incident involving fondling
> a poorly done investigation by powers that be turned up nothing to lead Joe Pa to believe this "hearsay" was true
> knew a man was molesting children for 10 years under his watch

Yeah...no, stick to reading minds, because your powers of interpreting information just isn't there yet.

>>16298515
He was shocked because the only time he heard bout anything was 02, he reported it, and it went away.

Only to come back 10 years later as something worse than he could have ever imagined. Not only was the rumor he received true, it was the tip of a revolting iceberg.

>>16298559

I guess Steve Jobs knew about the private lives of every Apple Executive as well? That's a lot of "assuring" you're doing.

>>16298562
He had no evidence. You can't just call the police on pure speculation

>>16298559
No shit, you realize there was more than one kid right? And that some of the incidents happened while he was a coach?

>>16298576
you can call the police for anything you want. and if they didn't believe you (why wouldnt they though? you're Joe Paterno) at least it would be on record that you tried.

>>16298578
Does Paterno have psychic powers to know about the other victims?

The only we know he was even partially informed about was victim 2. Its not unrealistic to think Sandusky was more covert about things after being caught in the act in 02.

>>16298553
>get reports that sandusky is fucking kids in the shower

>tell your boss about it

>see sandusky around on campus for the next 10 years, know that he runs a fucking halfway house charity for disadvantaged kids, brings kids to football games and shit

>do nothing

this is morally wrong and losing his job is not the worst thing that should happen to him. knowing a crime is going on and not reporting it is accessory. his bosses are going to jail, and since he is such a powerful figure on campus it may be judged that he is tacitly responsible as well

>>16298576
He was told Sandusky was in the shower with a child, I think that is enough. Instead of calling the police or looking into it Paterno continued to give him access to the facilities.

>>16298562

> don't know if the allegations are serious or just some crazy story by a disgruntled student
> ruin a man's life by reporting him to the police right away without letting the school investigate whether or not the story was legit

Yeah, real responsible. You know how many lives have been ruined by false child abuse accusations before? He very responsibly gave it to the people who are trained in, and who's sole job is, specifically to handle accusations, check their legitimacy and decide on an appropriate course of action. He absolutely made the right move.

>>16298595
Paterno also knew about 1998. His D-Coordinator (and probably successor) was being investigated for having a sexual encounter in the locker room showers. JoePa was aware of this investigation.

>>16298605
And do you have any idea how many lives have been ruined by people who have the same attitude as you? It's not like it was some random student, it was a student on his staff

>>16298515
I could give two shits about Penn State football or JoePa as a coach. But to say he knew shit without any evidence backing up your claims, like you have some insider information, is fucking laughable. Seriously.

>>16298614
JoePa knew of AT LEAST TWO TIMES of Sandusky having a sexual encounter with a boy in his locker room showers. That is what he knew.

k who cares about this whole bullshit media propagated scandal

lets talk some real fuckin sports here

nebraska is gonna come into the child molester heaven and whoop penn states ass

no joe pa means no win for them nittany lions thats what they get

>>16298603

> do nothing

Why should he do anything if the police and administration did nothing? Why should he believe differently than what the investigation determined? What does he have super skills that allow him to see beyond the administration telling him the accusations were bogus?

These emotion-fueled responses. Have fun with your witch hunt.

>>16298606
This is where I'm not sure of the details, and I've looked around but haven't been able to find it

That was settled out of court? What happened to the criminal case? How did the mother not get this man behind bars? How much did Paterno/the AD/etc know about the specifics of what happened that first time around?

Makes no sense that he was still roaming around after that.

>>16298606
So what you are telling me is that there is a rich cultural tradition of pedophilia at Penn State.

Disgusting.

>>16298614
The evidence is in the grand jury report.

>>16298613

How have lives been ruined by somebody reporting something to the people solely in charge of handling those kinds of issues? WTF are you talking about?

>>16298626
20 years from now we'll be talking about some coach getting fired for stalking someone he heard a bad rumor about.

>>16298613
And he reported it. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>16298626
because he is supposed to be a human and not a monster like the others involved. He is (was) also held in a much higher regard than any other college coaches and also was more than just a football coach at PSU, everyone here is underestimating the power Joe wielded at PSU

>>16298606

> aware of an investigation
> investigation turns up nothing
> Paterno is supposed to believe that he was a child molester anyway even though investigative authorities said there was nothing

That's a funny definition of "knowing somebody is a child molester"

>>16298620
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>sexual encounter
The 1998 investigation concluded he was just in a shower with the boy, not that anything sexual happened. The 2002 stuff was hearsay. Paterno had no basis to do anything

I just don't get one thing about this.
How can kids into university? Why were they there to be preyed upon in the first place?

>>16298655

> because he is supposed to be a human and not a monster like the others involved

What are you talking about? You're assuming he has these awesome powers where he knows exactly what's true and what's not? He gave it to people in charge of determining that.

So much emotion, so little logic.

>>16298658
i think you're finding that you're completely wrong. hence, joepa is fired and the world is angry at him. and the pennsylvania police commissioner said he wishes paterno called the police. (not Schultz, who is not a police officer or a law enforcement figure)

>>16298614
are you dense? he was told about it. I guarantee you a LOT of people knew about it. this dude got caught over and over again. he was a very prominent figure in penn state football, it's not like this is some random dude. this guy has books written about him and was in videos about PSU and football.

this guy was banging kids in the shower for over 10 years, I guarantee you a lot of people knew about it. how many of those people do you think went and talked to paterno about it, and still nothing happened.

this isn't some minor thing, and there's a reason why it's getting 90% of the coverage on ESPN. this is the biggest scandal ever in college sports, where an educational institution systematically covered up child molestation.

>>16298666
The Second Mile charity, run by Sandusky, brought kids from broken homes to the University to help them out.

Yes, this guy is a grade A sick fuck. He basically ran a program to ship little boys to him to get molested.

>this thread

I will remember this night of threads forever

Every time something like this happens I just facepalm. Because no one ever bothers looking into whether the kids liked it or not, they just automatically assume they didn't and condemn the "rapist" to hell

>>16298682
not only that but he had 6 adopted children. HE HAD AN INFINITE BONER

>>16298687
doesnt matter if they did or they didn't.

>>16298640
and he should have reported it to the police, in addition to demanding the removal of Sandusky from the facilities. Joe don't care

>>16298678
Some guy I know told me you like to murder people. Should I call the police on you? After all, someone told me he saw you kill a man. I have no proof, but I'm going to go ahead and call the cops on you anyway

>>16298679

> I guarantee you
> I assure you
> this person knew this

Just give up you got nothing

> he was told about it

This was already covered extensively by several posts here

>>16298687
4/10

The mouthbreathers will probably bite, but it is a little too obvious.

>>16298678
You're not even making sense now.

>>16298687
>Making decisions that effect the rest of your life
>Being 8

Choose one

>>16298704

> rumors from disgruntled kid
> call the police now, fuck checking it out first, I don't care who's lives are ruined

Cool way to handle situations bro

>>16298716
if that were a real life scenario, and it happened in an adult work enviornment (not just some of your dipshit friends fucking around). yes, you would probably call the police.

>>16298731
but... they never "checked it out first"

>>16298717
I love how you ignore anything besides word that you can pounce. Just because you want to turn a blind eye to everything doesn't mean it didn't happen. Joe knew about the 98 case and he knew about what happened in 02, it's in the grand jury report. Go ahead and quote "knew" and say he didn't know about it because he only HEARD about it from all that silly investigation stuff and then only HEARD about it again from a member of his staff

>>16298717
you can deny it all you like, I don't give 2 shits about PSU or football but always liked paterno.

this isn't going to end anytime soon. we'll see who lands in jail and who doesn't. if it was anyone other than paterno, you might as well draw the noose already. i really wouldn't be shocked if he ended up in jail. covering up theft or fraud is one thing, but child molestation is one crime that people absolutely will not tolerate.

>>16298731
Someone who was investigated in 1998 for similar behavior is again accused in 2002, go ahead and don't call the police and allow more children to be raped

>>16298716
ok how bout this. Your son's close friend tells you, "Mr. Magilicutty, I think the gym teacher might have done something to Billy weird in the shower"

would you just sit on that motherfucker? It should be know different with any other child, you take actions into your own hands.

>>16298740

I get it now where you're coming from. Joe Pa is wrong because he didn't do his own investigation of the investigation to determine whether or not people trained to investigate correctly checked it out. Even though he's not a professional investigator and would have no idea how to determine something like this.

So he's wrong because the administration did the wrong thing with the info he gave them? I see.

>>16298746
He was proved innocent in 1998, so Paterno didn't know anything

>>16298747
He will be dead within the month, and then a few months after Sandusky is in jail they will both be reunited in hell.

>>16298762
*no different

FUCK TODAY HAS FUCKED MY BRAIN LOPSIDED

>>16298758

> investigation in '98 turns up nothing
> you're supposed to believe he's a child molester anyway and give him unfair treatment in the future

Oh ok

>>16298762

Mr. Magilicutty: I don't understand. Come to the bathroom and show me...

>>16298778
it's that time of the night, iv'e been laughing at almost every single post

>>16298732
>>16298762
No, you don't do shit. You tell the person who witnessed the event to do something since that person say said event. You don't go to the police, you tell the witness to go to the police

>>16298776
well you may have believed it was bullshit back in 1998... up until the moment in 2002 when someone comes to you, distraught, saying he saw him fucking a boy in the shower. That's when all your doubts would've vanished.

>>16298762

My grandfather had a similar situation when he was a teacher. He did what he was trained to do, he gave the information to the administration. They checked it out, called the cops and thought of my grandfather as a hero.

That's the way he was told to handle those situations because it's the responsible way to handle those situations.

>>16298788
>tell a little boy, your son's best friend, to go to the police instead of doing something

>>16298767
fuckin lol, wat?
first of all there wasn't ever a trail for him to be "found innocent in"
but in 1998 he admitted to showering with boys in the locker room and was told "don't do it again." but yea, Joe didn't know anything...

The PSU people in this thread seriously know nothing about the situation.

>>16298794

> saying he saw him fucking a boy in the shower

OK now that you proved you don't know what you're talking about we can just stop there. He wasn't told anything like what you just described.

Also, see:
>>16298788

>>16298788
grow up, boy. in the real world youre calling the fucking cops. if it happened in a work enviornment the person telling you would be panicked and distraught. theyre coming to you because they don't know what to do. you wouldnt ignore it. it would be impossible. you help them get into contact with the police.

joepa never did that.

>>16298762
poor Billy Magilicutty

I have a hard time taking seriously anybody who insists JoePa should have called the police. First, hearsay. If you don't know what it is, look it up. Second, hindsight. It's incredibly easy to say that he, or anbody, should have done more now that we all know what supposedly happened behind closed doors. And that ties in with the third point, the bystander effect, which may or may not be relevent here. Look that one up as well if you're unsure of it's meaning.

>>16298804
>implying he was a little boy

>>16298776
Turned up nothing????
He straight up admitted he showered with young boys. This may be nothing in State College but in the rest of the world that's wrong

My god, you people are stupid. Think about how many coaches loose their job for some bullshit recruiting violation that some underling coach pulled. Paterno's assistant coach was fucking little boys. Yes, he was going to be fired. Any other coach would have been fired sooner. The only reason any one is worked up over this is because it's JoePa. If it had been Lane Kiffen, or Les Miles, or Tubberville, or any other coach you Penn State fags would be screaming for his head.

>>16298804

It was a graduate assistant who witnessed the event. 20 something years old.

ITT: People who have no idea what actually happened

fullretard

>>16298776
you're crazy if you think people didn't know he was a child molestor. minor celebrity on campus, multiple incidents involving little boys. hugely prominent school.

people talk, bro. i've worked at schools, and teachers are huge gossips. when this guy is still hanging out at the school after all the shit he'd been accused of, it would raise serious red flags with any sensible person.

>>16298808
that's not the point. paterno knew something sexual was happening in the shower and that mccreary was very distraught about it. in fact, he was fucking a boy in the shower, but that's beside the point.

Whether it was actual fucking, or just molesting, doesnt even matter. it requires the same response in the end.

>>16298794
>saying he saw him fucking a boy in the shower

For the 1000th time, McQueery was vague in the encounter with Paterno. At the mildest he said it was disturbing and inappropriate, and the worst that it was fondling or sexual in nature.

Every testimony/shred of evidence agrees that Paterno was not given the full details of what McQueery saw.

>>16298829
see
>>16298828

>>16298821

> He straight up admitted he showered with young boys
> Didn't read the context of the indictment

OK we're done here

>>16296292
holy shit. When was this?

>>16298829

> it requires the same response in the end

I agree. It got some response, he reported it as he trained to do to the people trained to handle this. Most responsible thing you can do with vague information.

>>16298847
paterno thinks you're wildly wrong.

>>16298822
stop making sense on my 4chan

Posting in an epic thread.

>>16298847

Sorry was quoting

>>16298828

>>16298836
What are you even talking about? I'm having a hard time reading the context of 1998 indictment considering he was never indicted

>>16298864

Grand Jury report, I misstated

>>16298822
2/10

Not sure if troll or just stupid.

>>16298822
+1000

>>16298874
I still don't understand what you're saying though, yes that's in there. What am I supposed to question about it?

>>16298822

> implying Penn State people would be correct in that case and wouldn't be falling into the same witch hunt that other people are perpetrating right now

What you said is true, doesn't excuse what is going on nor would it excuse it happening to any other coach, no matter who is calling for whose head.

>>16298897

He admitted he showered in a locker room like context. Nothing sexual in nature. Nothing to suggest child molester.

>>16298703
how the fuck doesn't it matter?
>>16298725
how does having sex affect the rest of your life?

>>16298972
you really dont' know how sexual abuse works do you?

>>16298972
...
That second one can't be a serious question

>>16298989
I do, it's only abuse if someone doesn't like it
>>16298998
Why? One fuck can barely change anything most of the time.

>>16298972
You ever been fucked in the ass against your will?

I have.

It does shit to you.