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  • File : 1298998646.jpg-(61 KB, 481x606, Wilt-Chamberlain..jpg)
    61 KB Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)11:57 No.10726890  
    Did Michael Jordan ever average 50+ ppg? Did Michael Jordan set the NBA record for most points in a game, half or season? Did Michael Jordan ever score 60+ points over thirty times? Oh that's right, the next closest is 5 times. Did Michael Jordan ever have the single greatest rookie season of any athlete to ever set foot on the planet? Didn't think so. Claim it's because of his size or his competition was shitty, but Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT. Jordan was more finesse and more clutch, but no player was a better athlete than Wilt.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)11:58 No.10726905
    >wilt chamberlain
    >play against nobodies
    >play in a rule-less nba
    >implying any of his stats matter
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)11:58 No.10726914
    >>10726905
    >mad
    >no proof
    >blames the era
    >mad as fuck
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:01 No.10726936
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    >>10726905

    nigga you just got told
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:02 No.10726937
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    >played vs a bunch of 5'11" white guys
    >just stood under the basket and made a million tip ins over all the little white guys
    >kobe's 81 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wilts 100
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:02 No.10726938
    >mfw everyone here is too beta to admit the truth
    >> Ronnie Lott's Pinky !k/8sWbExSw 03/01/11(Tue)12:02 No.10726944
    >no player was a better athlete

    That's the whole thing about Wilt. He was a great athlete by today's standards and he was playing against white dudes that were 5'10 and weighed 195 soaking wet
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:03 No.10726958
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    Superior
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:03 No.10726959
    >>10726944
    Do you blame Babe Ruth for being able to destroy his competition because the rest of the league wasn't juiced like they are today? He was just better.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:04 No.10726964
    wilt only scored 100 cuz his teammates intentionally fouled unnecessarily down the stretch and set him up on every possession.

    kobe could have got 100 that way, but could you imagine the buttfrustration if he did? nevermind doing it in a league with more parity, less white guys, and actual physical defense
    >> Gary "pwnstar91" Ridgway !FQ5As2D/.o 03/01/11(Tue)12:04 No.10726970
    >implying the toronto raptors are any better than a bunch of 5'11' crackas

    0/10
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:05 No.10726980
    ITT people who claim Bill Russel was a 5'8'' white guy
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:07 No.10727003
    >Jerry West
    >Elgin Baylor
    >Bill Russell
    >Rick Barry
    >Oscar Robertson
    Yup. Shitty competition alright.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:07 No.10727004
    A retard could have done what Wilt did. Basically the only person that tall, derp.

    nice try OP faggot
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:08 No.10727020
    >>10727004
    Shawn Bradley disagrees.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:08 No.10727021
    >implying any of these great players of all sports could play in today's
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:08 No.10727026
    >>10726980
    russell dominated wilt.

    get the fuck out statfags, wilt would get crushed by today's centers
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:08 No.10727030
    >Wilt gets shit for playing against 5'10" white guys
    >Bill Russell gets a pass for the same thing
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:09 No.10727032
    >>10727026
    Numbers don't lie.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:10 No.10727039
    >>10727032
    tamika catchings had a quintiple double in high school. Does that make her one of the best athletes to play the game of basketball?

    yeah i thought so
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:11 No.10727045
    >>10727039
    WNBA fan detected.

    >implying girls high school is even remotely comparable to the NBA in any era
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:12 No.10727052
    >>10727030
    no, both would suck in todays nba

    for fucks sake just look at them. skinny tall faggots who weren't even super athletic. I'd take howard over both of them any day.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:12 No.10727055
    Wilt Chamberlain is OVERRATED

    Every contemporary from their day says that Russell>Wilt
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:12 No.10727058
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    >>10727052
    >howard over both of them
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:13 No.10727063
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    >>10726890
    >wilt
    >best athlete
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:14 No.10727069
    I've never seen Wilt play. Has anyone else that's posted in this thread?

    My guess is fuck no.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:14 No.10727072
    >>10727063
    >Chokes even in all-star games
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:15 No.10727076
    >>10727058
    y'all just mad cuz u know u got told
    at 6'7 230 lbs, I could average a double double in 60s NBA
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:15 No.10727083
    >>10727052
    Wilt played at 275, you fucking idiot. Russell on the other hand was a skinny faggot that would get destroyed today.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:15 No.10727085
    >>10727052
    >Wilt
    >unathletic
    >pick one
    he high jumped 6 feet, 6 inches, ran the 440 yards in 49.0 seconds and the 880 yards in 1:58.3, put the shot 53 feet, 4 inches, and broad jumped 22 feet.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:16 No.10727090
    >>10727072
    >best athlete
    >scored 14 points in 4th Q in last allstar game
    >kobe "clutch" bryant scored 2
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:17 No.10727098
    >>10727090
    >implying either of them are close to wilt
    Debate them all you like, faggot. They'll never be the best.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:17 No.10727102
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    >>10727083
    >listed weight
    >he thinks it's true
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:19 No.10727120
    >>10727098
    you mad because in 50 years nobody will remember wilt asides from some hipster douche vintage nba fan or bill simmons. And lebron will be known as the most glorious player. evar. suck it
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:19 No.10727125
    >>10727085
    ...what the fuck was he a super mutant or something?

    Waiting for someone to link some footage of his games
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:19 No.10727128
    >>10727120
    Don't you have a Holiday Inn in downtown Miami to be cleaning?
    >> Ronnie Lott's Pinky !k/8sWbExSw 03/01/11(Tue)12:20 No.10727132
    BIll Russell was the only player Wilt wasn't able to completely dominate. And to whoever said Russell gets a free pass in the argument and about inferior opponents and Wilt doesnt, it's actually the complete opposite. Whenever you talk about greatest basketball player of all time, Wilt will always come up but never be #1 because of the lack of competition, where as Bill Russell probably won't even be mentioned.

    Fuck man, Russell's the poster child for how just having alot of rings doesn't instantly mean you're the greatest player ever.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:20 No.10727134
    >>10727085
    >reported stats
    >no evidence
    enjoy your delusions, faggot
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:21 No.10727146
    >>10727125
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OugQ16KaR50
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:21 No.10727147
    >>10727125
    those stats were made up by his promoters. of course he couldn't do shit. he was just tall, black and lucky to be born in an era when the NBA wasn't as popular and therefore had WAY less athletes
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:21 No.10727148
    >>10727120

    >Lebeta
    >Best player ever
    >Why he King if no ring?
    >Ego the size of Alaska
    >His mom got fucked by his teamates
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:22 No.10727158
    >>10727148
    >arguing a case for Wilt being the best
    >bring up rings
    lol
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:22 No.10727159
    >>10727147
    except those are recorded stats he put up in HS track competitions prior to changing his focus to basketball primarily
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:23 No.10727163
    >>10726980

    ITT: People who claim Wilt played against Russel every game of his career.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:24 No.10727175
    >>10727158

    >brings up Wilt
    >implied I talked about Wilt

    Where do you see Wilt in my post brah?
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:25 No.10727188
    the nba is getting bigger each year. as is basketball. do you idiots really think that in the 50s/60s, when basketball was just a fringe sport to be played during the winter (and nobody really competed since they didn't want to get injured before baseball/football season started ) that they had the luck to witness the greatest player in the history of the sport? are you guys really that delusional? If so, I feel sorry for ya
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:26 No.10727190
    >>10727158
    >implying Wilt doesn't have rings
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:27 No.10727213
    >>10727163
    There were only 8 teams back then
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:28 No.10727220
    >>10727190
    Wilt won his first ring when he was 31.
    >>10727175
    the thread is about wilt.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:30 No.10727246
    ITT: delusional nostlagiafags
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:37 No.10727339
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    >>10727146
    Jesus christ his 2 foot standing vert is ridiculous. And his fadeaway... it's MJ. MJ copied his fadeaway.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:37 No.10727340
    lmao at 12 year old fags who honestly think wilt still wouldn't dominate today. just look at his numbers. wilt averaged 30 ppg and 23 rebounds for his career. 72 nba all-time records and he also had a year where he led the league in assists. not to mention a 2 time nba champ.

    he's also solely responsible for the widening of the lane and several other rule changes.

    the only fags who would say bill russell was better don't know the game. Chamberlain outscored Russell 30 to 14.2 per game and outrebounded him 28.2 to 22.9 in the regular season, and also in the playoffs, he outscored him 25.7 to 14.9 and outrebounded him 28 to 24.7.

    tl;dr the only reason anyone considers russell better than wilt is bc he has more championships as sa result of playing with better players on his team.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:39 No.10727353
    >>10727340
    does that mean Lebron is better than Kobe, since Kobe has played with better players for the majority of his career and gets outplayed by lebron every game?

    >nope.jpg
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:41 No.10727375
    >>10727340
    Please be trolling, please be trolling, please be trolling
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:41 No.10727381
    >>10727353
    the last time i checked lebron still has 0 championships. wilt had 2 of his own.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:42 No.10727396
    >>10727340
    you obviously didn't read most of the thread.

    we are discussing if he is a legit all time great since he played against, what we'd consider today, scrubs
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:43 No.10727409
    >>10727381
    implying he won't win championships with the heat.
    he's 26. When wilt was 26 he was on the fucking globetrotters.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:46 No.10727441
    >Best rookie season of any athlete
    >Not Teemu Selanne
    >fullretard.png
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:49 No.10727478
    >>10727441
    >Hockey as a sport
    >Derp, eh?
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:49 No.10727488
    >>10727478
    >no argument
    >resort to childish namecalling
    >derp
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:50 No.10727492
    >>10727396
    i'm still lost as to how you consider who he played against scrubs. just because more of the league was white doesn't mean the players weren't just as good.

    just because niggers nowadays dunk doesn't make them better or "more afletic". if anything it's easier to say the league as a whole was better back then because of fewer teams hence more talent on each team and less pieces of shit in the league who are only there because teams need bodies.

    in the '60s there were guys like bill russell, oscar robertson, nate thurmand, jerry west, elgin baylor, etc. to honestly say he played against shit competition shows you're trolling or purely ignorant.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:52 No.10727516
    >>10727492
    you are just dumb as fuck
    are you aware basketball's popularity has skyrocketed since? do you know what that means? a bigger pool of players. that means a higher level of talent.

    seriously, stop embarrassing yourself
    >> Chad Pennington's Cannon Arm (formerly FlashIsBack) !!BPyNPdTHQX9 03/01/11(Tue)12:52 No.10727522
    >>10727492
    People did not play defense in the 60s, kid.

    They also weren't as good as making shots.

    Read Simmons' book. He's got stats and all that jazz.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)12:53 No.10727525
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    >Wilt
    >second-best Lakers center
    >GOAT
    >my face
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)13:00 No.10727602
    This bullshit is so tired and forced. Wilt will be FOREVER INFERIOR to Russell. Want to know why? Because stats don't mean shit without titles. Wilt didn't even win his first title until Russell had 8. By you Wiltfags' logic:

    Lebron is better than Kobe because of HURRSTATS even though Kobe is not only the bigger winner but the main REASON Lebron has never won a title.

    Likewise, implying KG deserves consideration as a better player than Duncan (even though statwise they're pretty much dead-identical over their careers), despite Duncan being the biggest roadblock to KG's Timberwolves ever having any success.

    Stats are for failures like T-Mac, Iverson, Melo and Lebron who can't win.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)13:00 No.10727609
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    Jordan has the highest career scoring average ever (Wilt is a close second but who gives a shit). Jordan has the highest playoff career scoring average ever. Jordan has the highest career Finals scoring average ever. Jordan has the highest single Finals scoring average ever. Jordan was a complete player who could do everything: pull-up jump shots, fadeaways, catch-and-shoot, threes (he improved), free throws, finishing inside, and he had the most dominant midrange game ever. Wilt couldn't make a jump shot or shoot free throws to save his life. Wilt wouldn't be able to dominate like he did in the modern era; Jordan would be the best player in any era. Jordan is the clutchest player the league has ever seen, he's the most talented player, and he had infinite will to back it up. Sorry Wilt, you're great but there's only one GOAT.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)13:03 No.10727645
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    >>10727609
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)13:12 No.10727749
    >>10727602
    >kobe main reason lebron hasn't won a ring
    >whatthefuckamireading.jpg
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)13:23 No.10727873
    >>10727749
    Well assuming the little bitch could make it outta his conference that'd be true
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)13:23 No.10727875
    >>10727609

    Most important addendum to the fact that Jordan has 6 Rings:

    Has NEVER lost in the finals, and was always the best player on his team hands down.

    That's why no one else other than Russell has a chance of being considered the GOAT other than Jordan. Certainly not Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Kobe or any other wannabes.
    >> Anonymous 03/01/11(Tue)13:26 No.10727897
    Let's see.

    6 championship rings.
    2 championship rings.

    Who has more? MJ. Wilt SUCKED in the playoffs. MJ is the very definition of clutch.

    You can't compare the stats because MJ played in a MUCH harder league than Wilt did. MJ had to play with a 24 second shot-clock and there was no 3 second in the key rule. Of course Wilt was going to dominate! He just stood in front of the basket on offense & defense. Wilt would not have those amazing stats if he actually played in the same time as MJ. MJ had to play against guys like Magic, Barkley, Ewing, Bird, David Robinson & Tim Duncan, Stockton & Malone, Shaq, and Olajuwon, those guys are ALL OVER the Top 50 players of all-time list. Wilt had Russell Oscar Robertson, sure, but the all-around talent of the league was nowhere near the level 90s.

    And despite all of these HUGE advantages for Wilt, he still only won two titles? That's pretty sad.

    Greatest of all-time? Please. Jordan is the best, anyone who denies that is just ignorant and in denial.
    >> Aragorn !!fGt6fwmlXoc 03/01/11(Tue)13:30 No.10727931
    >>10727875
    >>10727609

    i think we're all a little biased. we tend to like players we were able to see play with their contemporaries, you know? for example, of the names that come up when you talk about GOATs, my favorites are Jordan and Kobe, just because i watched them play the game. granted, i only caught the tail end of Jordan's career when i started watching basketball as a kid, but he was truly a great.

    and who cares about order anyway? at least we can agree that all the players brought up in the thread are ones for the ages.



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