Tremendous friendzoning.

>>8403940
sad face :(

>>8403948
Sorry bro.

Let me put it this way:
Friendzoned for life
And, if reincarnation is true, friendzoned for that one too.
Without the possibility of parole.

Now if it was 4-6 pages she might be interested.

mind writing a bit about what she wrote, or just write the whole letter here? Would be nice to read. Of course we'll talk about it all.

I conquered the friend-zone. Maybe i can help.

>>8403971
Give me a sec to type it out. Be warned, it's cheesy and stupid so if you could refrain from making fun of it, I would appreciate it.

either the girl is retarded or epic friendzone'd

Friendzoned BEYOND BELIEF

>>8403900
it means she's crazy, abort now and don't ever look back.

>>8403980
>Typing out a private letter sent to you so the entire anonymous internet can see it

Kind of a douchebag move, dude

>>8403980

bracing....

>>8403980
np bro. Feel like helping out someone out tonight. Might sound selfish, but i like the feeling it brings.

>>8403900
here's how this goes. you ask her out on a date, movie or dinner or something. and then you kiss her. friends don't kiss. so your problem is solved either way, you are no longer friendzoned or you have a girlfriend.

>>8404001
He just wants some love man, don't hate on him, sure hes not gonna reveal anything too specific. Just a broken-heart who wants some help.

>>8404001
Exactly what I was thinking .

>>8404025
Think this is a bad idea. He is already friend-zoned, so she would never allow. + He has no chance even if he has the balls to move in. Will tell elaborated plan that i used, and it worked like a charm.

God all of you are a bunch of fucking virgins. No bitch would write a 2 page fucking essay just to tell you you are her "friend".
She's interested in you OP. Don't listen to these retards and make a move.

One of my exes wrote me like that. Proceed with caution.

Hey Kyle! So, I'm writing this because I'm not sure if I'll get to talk to you mich this year while I'm away. Who knows, maybe nothing will change and I'll still be able to text all the time but I'll proceed with all of this anyways. I hope this isn't weird that I'm writing this but I jut wanted to say that I'm really glad that I met you. You have been a phenomenal friend this past year and I cant imagine you not being in my life. WE have laughed together, cried together (inb4 no we haven't [yes, I used some 4chan lingo in our friendship and she started using it too] ) and have had our little arguments but you always stuck around. I never thought I would share so much about my life with someone I have only met twice. WE have grown strangely close. You have helped me with so many problems that I have had or still have, especially when it comes to guys or smoking. You helped me stop smoking as well (but I think you already know that). It's awesome how we can talk on the phone for hours and hours about the silliest things. Most of the time you will be making fun of me or telling me stupid jokes and I will laugh at every single one.

Part 1/2

Make her jealous and talk to other girls. Sounds kinda cold. leik e baossss

>>8404081

>Hey Kyle! So, I'm writing this because I'm not sure if I'll get to talk to you mich this year while I'm away. Who knows, maybe nothing will change and I'll still be able to text all the time but I'll proceed with all of this anyways. I hope this isn't weird that I'm writing this but I jut wanted to say that I'm really glad that I met you.

Stopped reading there. Ease into a relationship with her

>>8404069
>mfw you pretend to know shit
>mfw i lost my virginity to the girl that friend-zoned me

Don't be such a complete fucking loser man. He's probably just really nice to her and she feels like she owes him for all the stuff he probably does for him.

If not, this is one odd-ball and she wants your cock. BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

>>8404081
Another thing I love about you is how honest you are. I know you would never lie to me and you know how to keep it real. You're not afraid to tell me I'm being stupid when I'm well... being stupid. But you also dont mind asking me for advice. You dont try to act like something that you're not. I wish every girl could see the Kyle that I see. You have a lot of heart and wayyy too much brains. I have always admired how strong you are when it comes to temptations . You're a guy who knows exactly what he wants in life and how to get there. I also admire your determination and focus (a few things I lack). You don't let other people change you, you change other people. Heck, I've changed a ton since I met you, but in a good way :] Anyways, I'm sure this year will be a fabulous year for you! And thank you for always being there for me. Love you! PS- Yes I do realize how gay this looks and I apologize for the mushiness :P

Part 2/2

''helping me ...specially when it comes to guys''
>ohshitniggerwhatareyoudoing.jpg

>>8404137
>>8404081
>I have always admired how strong you are when it comes to temptations
translation: I can't believe you haven't figured out the signs that I'm throwing myself at you tet

>>8404122

STFU you dumb bitch and read the letter. It's quite obvious she has strong feelings about him

>>8404148
I only just recently started to develop feelings for her. We've been friends for just over a year and she used to be your stupid typical girl who always went for total douchebags who just wanted to have sex with her and I managed to talk her out of every single bad relationship.

>>8404148

>>8403940
>>8403958
>>8403985
>>8403981

Fucking lol'd at all of these replies

Is it sad that I'm letting /soc/ pretty much dictate whether or not I try to forget about her? After I read the first few replies before I typed out the letter, I started to feel physically ill (maybe I'm too attracted to her) but then a few others are saying the opposite and my hopes were soaring until I remembered to keep my emotions in check and now I'm back at a normal level again.

Also, femanon responses would be appreciated. And I won't ask you to tits or gtfo.

OP this is the plan, girls don't work like you would expect them to. Being nice does nothing to them, at least not in the way men perceive it to work. For us, it seems good, but in reality it isn't. Women and men, completely different.

The problem is you being nice, she likes you now, but it completely backfired. She has no gain in getting into a relationship with you. She doesn't have to do anything to be friends with you, you just are. The trick to it that you must make her ''work'' for you. Don't demand anything from her, don't start conversations or do nice things, this makes her feel uncomfortable because she will feel like she has to do something back, otherwise you will think shes a bitch. In short; giving is a turn-off.

Don't talk to her. Just let the contact lay low, minimal. After 3-5 months, during which you build your confidence, have a bit of hate towards her if you can manage for everything her female brain has done to you just be a complete baller and become very confident.

Then when you talk to her again / see her, be flirty and fun, talk to her in a flirty way, use ;) smilies, end conversations with <3 or even babe, if she picks up on the flirty talk you can end a conversation with babe np. This will entice her, trust me.

From then on its your confidence that wins. Don't be all cuddly with her, be a bit distant and douchy, but not too much. Find the fine line, she'll want your cock.

Perfect example of too much beta. Do you have balls? Did they drop? Go for it. Better than ever wondering what if.

>>8404081
>>8404137

OP you must be a fuckin beta virgin of epic proportions to not have figured out she wants your dick in her mouth

>>8404258
I am beta, thank you for asking.

At least I can admit it.

>>8404265
See above response

here, listen to something completely mind-emptying for now, i hope you like this kind of music, otherwise im sowwy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH6qbweBbsU

Just chill with your bro's, anon.

Most guys know about the nice guy paradox. It's where they've been told since they were young -- both by women and by society in general -- that women like "nice" guys. And because they've been told this over and over, most guys grow up trying this approach only to have reality kick them in the groin.

This bothers guys. A lot. Why would women claim to want someone who will treat them nice, but then repeatedly turn down or mistreat those that give them exactly what they claim to want? Well, I have the answer, and like most major truisms it's pretty simple:

Women like when guys are nice to them, but only when they don't have to be.

Think about that. Most guys exclusively using the "nice" approach are doormats, and many are so because that's all they can be. They lack the attributes to attract a woman based on pure gravity (physical size/strength/prowess, ambition, sexuality, intelligence, money, etc.). As a result, these guys are essentially forced to grovel in order to attract a mate, which is patently unattractive.

Quite simply, women like powerful men to be nice to them, not feminized pseudo-men. A weak man being nice to a woman is essentially an act of submission, like a beggar bowing his head and calling you sir. Sure, they were respectful to you, but they just asked you for money so it's not as meaningful as if it came from a peer or superior.

To get the true benefit of nice in the way that women enjoy, one has to be able to attract that same woman without being nice, i.e. by the sheer force of masculine character. Only once that foundation of primal respect is in place can the higher-order offerings such as kindness be appreciated.

>>8404253
>implying life is about texting and talking through messengers.
Bitches be stupid.

>>8404253
>>8403900

This is the path to victory. Fucking do it!

ReCAPTCHA: Arnon ndoards

>>8404281

Then WTF you doing here bawwing about this shit wanting pity?

OP, if not trolling, she absolutely wants you and is telling you that. Her letter is shock and resignation that you haven't tried to get with her yet and she's giving you the in. Sack up and get in there.

>>8404350
>Implying I want pity

I came here for advice you moron. I have few friends IRL and give somebody a mask and they will tell you the truth. Anonymity=mask, so I came here for the truth.

>>8404372

You know the truth now and you still aint gonna do shit about it since you are a pathetic beta virgin

Op here. You all have been trolled, faggots.

I'm outta here

>>8404401
Dude, this thread is seriously 50/50 split right down the middle on the issue. I'm worse off than before.

>>8404406
And no, this douche is not OP. I am.

>>8404422
Stop impersonating me

>>8404407
OP What the fuck dude stop assuming life is all roses and fairies and shit. If there was hope you would have been in a relationship by now with her so stop dreaming and wake the fuck up. Now go follow that 5 month silence plan to get into her pants or otherwise become a part of the 95% that will never bone their friend-zoners. Its not that fucking hard just get to it and start behaving like a man. I'm frustrated because i can't get your ass motivated to fucking win when its all so easy for fuck fucking sake gawd.

>>8404468
Dude, you're an idiot. She's away at a missions-orientated school and she can't talk to me until May. I haven't talked to her since September 10th. She's in Florida, I'm in Virginia. I don't think that necessarily counts as a "silence plan" but it's the same concept.

>>8404491
>>8404491
Well i'm out of here you fucking failure. everything's set up against you. you're on your own now, forever beta.

>>8404509
Yeah, like I could have prevented her from going to florida right?

>>8404523
move on til she returns.
there are worse things
in the meanwhile shes gone,
go to /fit/ and become a prince
you romantic generic person

>>8403900

Dunno if OP is still in this thread, but just in case...

I'm kinda torn on the part about helping her with guys. That's usually code for FRIENDZONE. But the rest of the letter...

I had a lady friend who said a lot of similar things, while we were far apart (we'd met under weird circumstances while far away from our respective homes). We talked each other through some bad relationship spots, she even got engaged to some fuckhead, then got dumped. On Valentine's day. Obviously she didn't take my advice very well...

This was just before email got popular (yes, it was a while ago, I'm a grizzled old almost-40 bastard) so it was actual letters like this one.

A few months later I went to visit her. And I completely fucked it up. Blew every possible opening she gave me... took me to a romantic movie, sighed the whole time, etc. Even offered to "take care of me" after a drunken petting session.

Yes, I was BetaAsFuck at the time.

Eh... I'm not gonna go through the rest of it, too painful (she died soon after, so we never got to try again), but I'll leave you with this.

You should flirt a bit, keep it light until the next time you see her in person AND DO SOMETHING. ANYTHING. Give her a hug and kiss her on the forehead, etc. You have nothing to lose, not even friendship... if she backs off, just apologize. It'll hurt a bit in the heart, and sting the ego, but if she's a real friend she'll understand and you'll go on as you were AS LONG AS YOU DON'T PUSH IT AGAIN.

If she doesn't understand, then you were her emotional tampon and you shouldn't be talking to her anyway.

But if she does keep going, if she takes your hand while you're walking together, or snuggles up to you and feeds you snacks, or (hopefully) gets nekkid and freaky... then go for it. As hard and as serious as you can.

Because that's the vibe I'm getting. And while I blew my chance (forever), you still have one.

Good luck, bro.

>>8411916
Anon, I may not be OP, but what you've said has really touched me.

>>8411916
this