well. the fact that she has an airless room and plans to stay in said room for hours with nothing but a facemask worries me.

Fight club didn't make me want to start a fight club. Why the hell would I want to do that??

Lye is a dangerous chemical to be working with at home. Yo need adequate protection and ventilation. Her plan feels a little dangerous and capricious.

>small, airless room

I have reason to believe that your girlfriend is in fact, a zombie

People wear less when cooking meth and seem to come out only slightly worse for the wear.

>>863088
>implying mixing lye with lard somehow produces fumes, also that a facemask doesn't stop fumes.

HERR DERR, why the fuck would fight inspire you to make soap?
I think thats the real worry here

>>863099
Could she maybe do all this crap outside then? The room is surrounded by windows, but she was only planning on opening one since the others are extremely difficult to open- hence its airlessness. Or would everything be jolly if she just got off her ass and opened everything she could for better air circulation?

>lye fumes

wat

>usual reaction afterwards of wanting to form your own fight club/go crazy

stop reminding everyone how stupid average people are =/

This is a stupid troll attempt

3/10 for originality, +1 for cleanliness

man, after I watched fightclub my reaction was

"would you look at the fucking business sense that guy has, getting supplies for free and selling high-tier soap. I wish I could come up with a racket that good."

>>863117
that would make it be "without vents" not airless. maybe airtight... but i know that's not what you were going for.

>"lye fumes" from making soap

I don't think so, Tim.

>>863118
I really don't know anything about lye. For some reason I figured there would be some kind of fumes when the lye hits the water.
>>863113
She says she's not going to be using lard since she's a vegetarian. It's all going to be vegetable fats/oils apparently.

Why don't you do some research on what the shit you'll be doing. Like actual research.
Also ask her what she plans on blowing up.

:/

That's kinda dodgy.
Ventilation required nao.

You should both read basic chemistry OH&S shit before you wanna try anything like that out.

Not much of a chemfag, but the gloves might also not be good enough to protect against the lye. Or maybe they are. IDK.

Soap making sounds a lot better than starting a fight club, IMO.

>>863145
The gloves are okay actually. She at least did research in that sense to find something that would definitely protect against any potential lye spills. What's the basic chemistry OH&S you're referring to?

>making soap instead of starting a fight club
>realizing a fight club is fucking retarded and the point of the movie was an effective existentialism
>making soap to benefit the self, fuck the bullshit

sounds like OP has a smart gurrl

My grandma makes soap. Shit is awesome.

She should be perfectly safe, as long as she doesn't do something retarded, like rub eyes with lye, or something.

Remember to check the acid values of oils she wants to use, and use correct amount of sodium/potassium peroxide. Also, don't lick the spoon.

beekeeper here.

why not use beeswax? No bees are generally hurt during the harvesting of beeswax (if they were, the beekeeper is using medieval fucking harvesting techniques, which is both bad for production and illegal in america), and beeswax is a type of fat. I've heard about soap being made out of it.

Iv made pretzels from scratch before, you can handle lye with just gloves. But also, if you spill any on you, or get it airborne, your fucked to hell.
Inhaling lye is like inhaling something that eminently breaks down organic matte- wait, thats exactly what it does

>>863088
>the usual reaction afterwards of wanting to form your own fight club/go crazy
That is literally the exact opposite of the moral of the story, you are one of those people that leads to descriptions of video games as murder simulators aren't you.

>>863180
It smells nicer then animal/vegetable fat soaps

Be sure to stir the batch until it thickens like very thick oatmeal. This is called "trace" and may take a long time (couple of hours). If you don't and oil separates out of the mixture you are fucked. Also let the soap cure for 6-8 weeks to let all the hydroxide react. A little white powder on the surface of cured soap is normal.

>>863167

dunno, don't listen to me, i'm sleepy. bye.

lye will dissolve your bones, do not get it on you

>>863192
hells yeah beeswax smells good.

it smells like fucking wonder.

ITT: making soap.

NIGGERS IN AFRICA WILL LEARN!!!

>>863176
Hydroxide. Fuck, I'm sleepy

>>863180
I will definitely suggest that to her, thank you.

>>863181
She showed me the bottles of soapgrade lye that she bought over the internet and lye looks like it's about to fucking fly right out of there and get all over the place. Oh my fucking god, will the lye just instantly go airborne in the slightest breeze? Does ANYONE have personal experience with this powdery lye shit? Is my girlfriend going to turn into a hideous beast covered in oozing sores??

>Rather than having the usual reaction afterwards of wanting to form your own fight club/go crazy, she's gone down a bizarre path and now wants to make her own soap.
lol

>>863216
>hideous beast covered in sores

of course she will.

>>863216
U ever seen V for vendetta? burns on hands? yeah, lye.

Its corrosive to flesh.

>>863136
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap_making#Soapmaking

have fun

>>863234
though I can't guarantee she wasn't to begin with

Hey /sci/ I watched fight club when I was small and underaged, should I re-watch it or read the book?

>>863180
listen buddy, I've been keeping bees for 20 fucking years and I think I'm a LITTLE more knowledgable on the subject then you. OP this man is fucking insane don't use beeswax NO MATTER WHAT.

>corrosive to flesh

>>863248
what?

why shouldn't he use beeswax?

also, what kind of beekeeper anti-plugs his product?

you aren't a beekeeper. you are an impostor planted by the HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP INDUSTRY!

i lol'd, enjoy having a shitty gf

>>863246

movie first, then book.
they're both about as good as each other IMO.

>>863088
I made soap several times for birthday presents and it's really not a big deal, just make her wear some protective glasses (bases are serious business)

Always remember: soap is made of heroes.

http://www.ehow.com/how_2105451_make-beeswax-castile-soap.html

http://www.asktheexterminator.com/bees/Beeswax_Soap.shtml

see, beeswax soap is completely possible. one type with an oil base, one type that's mostly beeswax.

>>863248
you are not the beekeeper. I am.

>>863246
even the author admits the movie was better, I'm just not a fan of Palahnuik's writing stle

this thread is now about BEES

>>863271
OKAY.

DID YOU KNOW A BEE SUIT WEIGHED OVER TEN POUNDS, AND PODUCED IT'S OWN HEAT?

Was i not paying enough attention when watching fight club? I didn't remember soap

>>863273
Hmm, if i put bee's in a snowsuit I can survive the arctic tundra forever

>>863273

I poduce shit all the time.

>>863271

they're becoming endangered :'[

>>863278

It is a pretty fucking important theme of it...

>>863088
Does she want soap for soap's sake or is she trying to blow shit up?

Fucking Africanised bees. Africa never does anything good for anyone, does it?

>>863278
Umm, it's the logo of the film? They make it from liposuction fat, then sell it back to the same sort of vacuous whores who had the liposuction.

>>863262
Okay, thank god. This entire thread has mostly contributed to me feeling even more freaked out (which is probably to be expected on 4chan). She has decent enough protective gear, and hopefully she'll be cautious, so that will have to be enough.

>>863248
What's wrong with beeswax then?

>>863287
I haven't seen it in years... all i remember was that he was crazy and so was everyone else

>>863290
man, the africanized bees are made of mad science.

it's not africa's fault those scientists couldn't contain their test subjects.

>>863271
That guy looks like he got anesthetized by the fumes he was using .

animooted

>>863301
beekeepers don't use anything special in their smokers. it's just smoke.

the bees don't go to sleep. they are tricked into thinking there is a fire, so they gorge themselves on honey and run the fuck away. also, they can't smell alarm pherimones when the smoke is going.

If I didn't live in the city I would keep bees.
Goddang I hate the city

Here you go OP:
http://www.certified-lye.com/safety.html

>>863337
did you know city bees often make the best honey?

cities have all sorts of little spots of green, and flowers from locations around the world, blooming all season long.

a few hives could be sustained well, and aren't illegal / too illegal depending on where you live.

>>863352
I know I keep a hive in my office building

>>863352
So what flowers are best for quality honey?

>>863364
wait... you keep one in your building

but you can't have bees because you're in the city.

is your building out in the country or something, or are you two different people, or what?

Q: Why did the bees go on strike?
A: Because they wanted more honey and shorter working flowers!

:3

>>863372
we're different people

>>863367
clover is usually pretty darn good, it blooms for large portions of the year.

usually though, bees have something from every flower around. the only way to keep your bees to a specific flower is to have only one type available the entire season- like if you were pollinating some farmer's fields.

>>863352
So I should just keep bees ninja style, with a small beehive hidden in a park?

Tell her to go the fuck outside with the lye. Its fucking goddamn smart to do so. Even with your windows open there will be fumes around you when you're working with it. Stand with any wind blowing the lye away from you if at all possible. Use common sense with hazardous chemicals ALWAYS. Don't ever try to make exceptions to safety.

>>863500
keep 'em in your yard.

the bees can fly two miles easy to get to the park.

alternatively, keep them on your balcony or roof.

>>863088
>I dunno

Is this like a weird copypasta or something? The fuck is wrong with your girlfriend?


>>863128
you are a tool

>>863853
>you are a tool

I take umbrage at that. I'm entrepreneurial.

my sister made soap. it isn't that bad. done inside, windows open. nothing bad happened. She didn't make much, only about 300g. for more industry scale production, i would go outside.
Take care handling lye, it is bad juju.

>Watches FIGHT CLUB
>Is inspired to MAKE FUCKING SOAP OF ALL POSSIBLE THINGS

FUCKING WHAT