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  • File : 1270874867.jpg-(51 KB, 475x475, planetpano.jpg)
    51 KB Harvey Danger Jr., the Other Other Man Without Fear 04/10/10(Sat)00:47 No.689806  
    /sci/, theoretically speaking, would it be possible for the LHC (or any other science thingamajig) to accidentally create a planet? And if so, how would it affect Earth?

    I ask because I want to use that as a major plot device for a story I wish to tell.

    And no, I don't really know a whole lot about science, but I am very fascinated by it.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:49 No.689815
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    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:49 No.689820
    >accidently a whole planet
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:50 No.689823
    >>689806
    SPORE !!!!!!!!!!
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:50 No.689824
    Where... where would this planet exist?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:50 No.689829
    >>689806
    Didn't you hear? They created Mars with it.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:50 No.689830
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_mass


    theoretically, we could create planets...it would just require a massive amount of energy and available mass, we'd probably have to be a type II civilization.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:52 No.689833
    No.
    >> Harvey Danger Jr., the Other Other Man Without Fear 04/10/10(Sat)00:53 No.689840
    >>689824
    I was thinking that there would be a large scientific machine, much like the LHC, and it would be turned on, but something would malfunction and all these atoms and particles and whatever else would start to combine together to form a core, and then it's own gravitational pull. It would then tear the LHC apart, and then the building housing it, and so on. In my head, I'm imagining it as a miniature planet that is consuming ours as it grows inside of our own.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:55 No.689850
    >>689840
    Kinda like planet cancer :D
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:55 No.689852
    Ingredients:
    -Planet A
    -Planet B
    -Massive energy
    -Machine that can translate that energy into motion, in such a way that either planet will be affected

    Step 1: Smash Planet A into Planet B
    Alternative: Smash Planet B into Planet A

    You should result in a Planet C. Planet C may need to cool for several million years before habitation is possible. May also require a dash of atmosphere if preferred.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:56 No.689860
    >>689840

    That would destroy our own planet in a couple of minutes.

    Even if it takes days to fully envelop Earth, we'd still be dead long before that from earthquakes and floods.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:57 No.689863
    >>689830
    well, all we need to do is look at einsteins equation

    >E=MC^2

    now, bear with me here, because i might go over your head. if i do, thats ok, just ask me for clarification.

    according to the big bang model, all the mass in the universe can be compressed into a tiny space. that means that we arent really all mass, we are just a fraction of that mass, an infinitesimal amount of mass. so, considering this, we can cross mass out so that the equation is E=C. ok, so now that we have that, we realize that energy equals the speed of light, so that if we are able to harness that energy, we can theoretically create an entire universe from the energy of light.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:59 No.689874
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    >>689863

    mind blowing.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:59 No.689876
    >>689863

    It so happens that all the energy in the universe is already been used up to create this one.

    Durr
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:59 No.689880
    Why the fuck would a new planet eat our planet?

    So say the particles form a core. Guess what happens? It drops to the floor and that's the end of it. There's no reason for it to even consume the machine it's inside.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)00:59 No.689881
    Here's a tip for "really out there" science fiction.

    Never explain anything.

    Seriously, you'll likely make a mistake. Nobody will blame you if something happens in your story for which no scientific precedent exists, and your story's scientists have no clue what's going on. It happens all the time in science.

    Scientist #1: "We now know how much mass is in our galaxy!"
    Scientist #2: "But don't we need like 200% more mass for the galaxy to not fly apart?"
    Scientist #1: "..."

    And now we have dark matter. Which are two fancy words for *shrug*.
    >> Harvey Danger Jr., the Other Other Man Without Fear 04/10/10(Sat)01:02 No.689900
    I have asked this exact same question to /co/, and they have suggested dimensional rifts, wormholes, unstable molecules, and another collider firing at the same time, oh, and exploding black holes. They have also suggested to just not bother explaining it at all.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)01:02 No.689901
    >>689881

    You mean scientists don't know everything already?!

    HOLY CRAP!
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)01:03 No.689904
    >>689881

    is that why a lot of "hard" sci-fi takes place pre-space flight or has a very limited scope compared to the usual space operas from pre-1980?
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)01:04 No.689914
    >>689900

    Just say that the machine creates a huge amount of energy and don't explain what else it is supposed to do.

    Also, don't call it the LHC. In the public's mind, the LHC creates black holes, not planets.
    >> Harvey Danger Jr., the Other Other Man Without Fear 04/10/10(Sat)01:05 No.689920
    >>689914
    I wasn't going to call it the LHC, I'm just using that for lack of a better term.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)01:06 No.689931
    >>689840
    1. Primordial solar system cloud
    2. Accelerating time bubble
    3. Natural solar system formed in a fraction of the time
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)01:06 No.689932
    >>689904

    No, a lot of hard science fiction focuses on the minute details. The Martian Chronicles was wrong about a ton of things, but it's still pretty solid. It just doesn't let itself get out of hand. When it talks about WW3 and the end of most of humanity, the book is very specific about everything surrounding the event.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)01:06 No.689935
    >>689876
    thats what you think.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl4whN9aLMg
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)01:09 No.689949
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    >>689932

    Ray Bradbury stole my heart.
    >> Anonymous 04/10/10(Sat)01:12 No.689959
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    >>689863

    don't believe this guy, he was being impish

    refer to: >>689935 to get the joke

    BOWLING BALLZ
    >> Harvey Danger Jr., the Other Other Man Without Fear 04/10/10(Sat)01:22 No.690008
    Thank you for your time and ideas, /sci/.



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