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  • Kimmo Alm aka "Sysop" from AnT has been spamming us for YEARS now, and has recently stepped it up. This shit has got to fucking stop. As promised, here are all of the e-mails he has sent me over the years (and my responses).

    We've done all we can do about him. We've banned THOUSANDS of proxies, and deleted OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND spam posts. His attacks continue though, and we've reached the limit of what we can do.
    edit: we aren't going to add captcha.

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    30 KB Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:45 No.512250  
    Why does blowing on food make it cooler? Our breath is warm already.

    Blow related.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:47 No.512268
    Our breath contains CO2, which, although it is a greenhouse gas, also reflects radiation of many kinds. The concentration of CO2 in our breath allows heat from the food to be reflected out, but is not high enough to produce the "greenhouse effect" commonly known to happen in the Earth's atmosphere.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:48 No.512278
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    It's cooler than the food. Thermal equilibrium must be attained.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:51 No.512299
    Like all science, cooked food is full of sin. By blowing on it you chase away the demons (who are warm, from being in hell).
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:52 No.512301
    >>512278

    You're a moron.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:53 No.512315
    >>512301
    >>512278
    >>512268

    All morans. Obviously the food gets cooler because Jesus wills it so.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:54 No.512322
    blowing scatters the hot air around the food and replaces it with slightly warm air from our breath

    the warm air is still colder than the hot food, so heat spreads away from it more quickly
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:55 No.512329
    >>512322
    Quit trolling.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:57 No.512339
    >>512299
    No John you are the demons
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:57 No.512341
    >>512268

    Fuck no.

    On topic: We assume you're blowing on the burger because its too hot for you, in which the burger's temperature is higher than yours.

    by you blowing on it with your body's temperature breath, the heat from the burger flows into the gas and dissipates this is how we see the steam from it. The Law of Conservation of Energy proves this. That heat only flows in one direction, from hot to cold, where cold is just a lack of energy, its not its own category.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:57 No.512344
    >>512250
    why do an electric fan makes you cooler--even in warm weather?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)15:58 No.512347
    >>512250
    Because we blow away H20 molecules around it (de-humidifying the air around the food), allowing more water to evaporate from food faster, which leads to faster heat loss.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:00 No.512359
    Blowing on food makes it hotter. The geometry of the air molecules makes it abrasive, and when the molecules scrub against food, it creates energy, which in turn heats the food.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:00 No.512360
    >>512341
    >We assume you're blowing on the burger because its too hot for you, in which the burger's temperature is higher than yours.
    What? Did you fail out of high school? We don't perceive things as hot because they're hotter than us. About 80 degrees is when things begin to feel "too hot" for us, which is way below our average body temperature of 93.

    A burger's average temperature never gets above 90. This is why it is too hot.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:00 No.512363
    >>512329
    Quit being retarded.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:01 No.512365
    >>512344

    Its the same principal used for Lift on airplanes.

    The faster the gas moves, the less dense it is, and the less energy it contains until you hit the negative where friction takes over, and creates heat because of the gas molecules colliding with your skin.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:01 No.512372
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    >>512359
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:01 No.512374
    >>512359

    you cannot create energy, you must leave with the same amount you started.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:02 No.512382
    >>512374

    I meant that it converts the energy within the air into heat energy.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:03 No.512386
    >>512360
    You genuine shit.

    If something has the same temperature as you, you don't feel any temperature difference. So yes, hot things are hot relative to how hot we are. Tea is close to boiling temperature, hot food is up to 60 degrees celsius when you eat it, etc

    Fucking noob
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:03 No.512390
    >>512347
    >>512365
    Both of these are true. /thread
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:03 No.512392
    >>512360

    no, then when it gets over 100 degrees near the equator, do people just burn because its too hot? No.

    a Burger, which we assume is made of meat of some sort, is required by USDA law to be cooked to a temperature of 140 degrees Fahrenheit

    therefore the burger is hotter than a human
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:04 No.512396
    >>512360
    >About 80 degrees is when things begin to feel "too hot" for us, which is way below our average body temperature of 93.
    and this is why you feel a burning pain when you touch other people
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:05 No.512403
    >>512396

    LoL'd
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:05 No.512406
    >>512396
    >>512392
    >>512386

    He's talking celsius. When our 90C temp bodies touch 80C temp things, it hurts us.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:05 No.512407
    >>512396
    >implying skin is the same temperature as the core of the body.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:06 No.512411
    >>512406
    >>512407

    >implying we're all just boiling water underneath skin.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:06 No.512413
    >>512344

    expanding gas cools

    same principle as your refrigerator
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:07 No.512416
    >>512407
    >implying that isn't the exact point I was making given that the core temperature is irrelevant to the discussion
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:07 No.512419
    >>512406

    90 degrees C is 194 degrees Fahrenheit
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:08 No.512422
    Seriously, stop using Fahrenheit, it's retarded.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:08 No.512423
    Food is wet, blowing allows "dry air" to run over the wet food where water evaporates. Evaporation absorbs heat. This combined with the fact that its exposing the burger to room temperature (or body temp) air. Since the air around the burger is relatively static until blowing which creates a hot pocket of air on its surface which doesn't allow for quick cooling until the air is circulating properly.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:08 No.512428
    >>512423

    >implying burgers are wet
    >bread is dry you moran
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:08 No.512431
    FFS why does no-one in /sci/ have even the slightest grasp on basic scientific prinicples.

    Everyone in this thread needs to learn about the effect of temperature gradients on cooling.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:08 No.512432
    i like how everyone assumes that breathing in room temperature air and storing it in your lung for five or so seconds automatically makes the air soar up to 98 degrees when you breathe it out
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:09 No.512435
    >>512432

    Humans are like cars.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:11 No.512448
    >>512428

    Bread still contains water.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:11 No.512449
    >>512423
    >Food is wet, blowing allows "dry air" to run over the wet food where water evaporates.
    Yeah, my burger is always really soggy when it comes out of the microwave. God, you idiot.

    And "dry air"? Do you know how many water molecules are in human breath?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:11 No.512452
    temperature is just a measurement of energy
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:12 No.512456
    >>512449

    this is why we see our breath in winter.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:14 No.512464
    >>512449
    >my burger is always really soggy.
    It is. That's why it steams. You know. Steam.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:15 No.512471
    >>512464
    Steam is caused by the vaporization of starches in food, not by water.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:17 No.512478
    Blowing does nothing.
    You're just leaving it to cool, instead of eating it straight away.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:17 No.512481
    >>512471

    lol?
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:18 No.512491
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    >>512471
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:18 No.512493
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    my god you are stupid.

    lrn2 Bernoulli principle
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:18 No.512495
    >>512471

    starches are solid.

    they must be mixed with an aqueous solution to vaporize, and even then its like getting the salt out of water, the sale remains while the water rises.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:19 No.512501
    >>512456
    >>512449

    You guys are complete niggers obviously our breath has water in it but when you blow on something unless your right next to it your also pushing a lot of "room air" in front of your breath.

    If you want to be a douche and argue that the air hitting the burger is highly saturated with water then it has a even greater cooling effect as the mist of your breath evaporates slightly in the air and is then cooler by the time it hits the food. This is the reason misters feel cool in the summer. Its hot out but the mist is evaporating slightly as it flows through the air.

    The most important thing is simply air circulating. The air around the burger is hot and stagnant which acts like an insulator. (why a fan keeps you cool)
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:20 No.512503
    The same reason a heatsink works.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:21 No.512514
    >>512406
    You mean 37 degree bodies. FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:21 No.512521
    Does everyone here know that gas reducing in pressure lowers the temperature? If so, it should be obvious.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:21 No.512522
    Placebo effect, the food actually gets hotter.
    >> Anonymous 03/14/10(Sun)16:22 No.512524
    tl;dr, a lot of morons.

    According to Dick Feynman [see: Six Easy Pieces], vapor coming off of the hot food is being blown away, thus taking energy out of the system. Vapors form endothermically, and liquefy exothermically.

    If the food were left in an ideal closed vacuum, the food wood exist at some dynamic equilibrium with particles jumping in and out of the food at the same rate, leaving it at a constant temperature.



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