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  • File : 1328215205.png-(205 KB, 550x488, 1293193468648.png)
    205 KB Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:40 No.4322635  
    > go to Wikipedia
    > look up "Earth"
    > Orbital period 365.256363004 days[2] 1.000017421 yr
    > 1.000017421 yr
    > wat
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:42 No.4322643
    it's not exactly one year, hence why every 4 years we have a leap year to correct for this.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:42 No.4322644
    why do you think we have leap years?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:44 No.4322648
    Leap years bro
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:46 No.4322656
    It's because God used american units when he created earth
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:48 No.4322664
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    >>4322643
    >>4322644

    We have leap years, because number of days in a year is not integer
    Which absolutely does not explain why Earth supposed to take longer than 1 year to go around the Sun
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:49 No.4322667
    Wikipedia runs on an old Pentium I with FDIV bug
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:50 No.4322669
    what correction do we use in total? i know that:
    every 4 years we add 1 day.
    every 1000 years we dont add that day becasue 1 day every 4 years overcompensates.
    anything beyond that?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:51 No.4322673
    >>4322664
    >>Earth supposed to take longer than 1 year to go around the Sun

    This, how come it takes more then 1 year to go around the sun? Isn't that the definition of a year?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:54 No.4322682
    >>4322673
    to keep it simple a year is defined as 365.25 days.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)15:57 No.4322694
    >>4322669
    You know wrong. The leap year is applied every 4 years except those divisible by 100 but not 400.
    That makes a correction of 1 day every 133.33 years
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:03 No.4322711
    >>4322694
    sorry, i noticed it right after i post that. that i had like 5 extra days per 1000 years.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:09 No.4322737
    Because there is a difference between sidereal year (Earth returns to the same space position relative to Sun) and tropical year (Earth axis returns to the same angle relative to the Sun). Tropical year is more relevant to the everyday life because it corresponds to the seasonal period. Sidereal year is more relevant to the physics, because it's the rotation period of the Earth on the orbit around the Sun.

    Tropical year is shorter by ~20 minutes because of Earth axis precession. 1.000017421 is the length of sidereal year expressed in tropical years.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:10 No.4322742
    >>4322682
    >>4322673
    >>4322664
    IIRC a year is 365.25 days, rather than the orbital period.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:13 No.4322752
    IMA CHEYEKNEE

    I DOWN UNASTANA LEAP YEAH
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:16 No.4322762
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    >>4322737
    Now that I looked for the second time, it's not quite right. That would be ~1.000038, not 1.000017. Some moron divided it by 365.25 instead of 365.2422

    Therefore: 1.000017421 is the length of precisely calculated sidereal year divided by the arbitrary year length as defined by Emperor Julius Caesar in the year of our Lord -46
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:26 No.4322791
    >>4322635
    Think of it this way, OP;

    You know how the moon has a rotation period of 1 month (and I mean rotation, not revolution). It's part of the same principle.

    While we're revolving around the sun, there's a slight rotation occurring as well. The length of 1 full rotation on earth *technically* isn't 24 hours, because we don't actually measure days by how long it takes the earth to spin in a full circle. We measure how long it takes before it faces the sun again.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:36 No.4322814
    >>4322656
    >>4322664
    >>4322673

    The reason it seems arbitrary is because we wanted it to be as less arbitrary as possible. As a global society we are always trying to tie certain, otherwise arbitrary, metrics to natural phenomena. So, we standardized the second as:

    >"the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom."

    Then we decided minutes and hours should operate on the sexigesimal system, because it has the most divisors. Well, actually that happened before the standardization of a second, but that's irrelevant. After all of this, we tied the length of a single Earth day to be one complete rotation. At least that what it would've been if it the rotation rate were constant, which it's not. So you have, a solar day, which is basically just the average rotation time, and then you have the stellar day which is about 4 minutes less.

    +stellar day - an entire rotation of a planet with respect to the distant stars
    +sidereal day - a single rotation of a planet with respect to the vernal equinox
    +mean solar day - average time of a single rotation of a planet with respect to the sun as the central star

    So, we just decided to make a day 86,400 SI seconds.

    BUT, we're not done yet.

    To keep the civil day aligned with the apparent movement of the Sun, positive or negative leap seconds may be inserted.
    A civil clock day is typically 86,400 SI seconds long, but will be 86,401 s or 86,399 s long in the event of a leap second.

    tl;dr dates are pretty fucking arbitrary because humans aren't cool enough to completely master it.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:39 No.4322828
    >>4322814
    I've memorised that light travels 3.26cm per transition between hyperfine ground states in Cs-133. Probable one of the most objective measures of stuff I know of.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:40 No.4322829
    >>4322762
    >Anno Domini
    >Negative Years.
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)16:40 No.4322830
    >>4322791
    >You know how the moon has a rotation period of 1 month (and I mean rotation, not revolution).

    Jesus, are you fucking 12?

    How could you not know that the moon is tidally locked to the Earth? Haven't you ever heard of the expression 'dark side of the moon'?
    >> Anonymous 02/02/12(Thu)23:51 No.4324314
    OP is right.



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