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  • Infelizmente nós não acabar ficando juntos. Da próxima vez!

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    55 KB my life is in ruins Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:11 No.3597908  
    /sci/, i turn to you because my life is in ruins.

    i graduated in 08 right before the economy went to shit with a bachelors in econ. i fucked up by taking an easy major and not having any real plans for my future. i had been raised in a time when people got paid to be well spoken, college educated and white. apparently it doesn't work that way anymore, if it ever did.

    after continuous rejections from jobs i turned to the internet hoping to find a way to make some cash online to hold me over while i searched for jobs. i found online poker. for the last few years i was playing online and making decent money. but then this april the department of justice shut down the major poker sites for some bullshit banking laws they broke (literally the same day legislation passed to allow online gambling in the DC area exhibiting the gross hypocrisy of our governments) . so even though online poker still exists in a legal gray area, it has been wiped out. not only did i lose my only income source and the only thing i've ever been passionate about, i lost my ability to earn in the future (until online poker becomes fully legal which may never happen). i have a 3 year resume gap, no real skills, and no hope for the future. you guys are smart, wat do? ;_;
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:15 No.3597940
    There's always online tutoring if you're clever enough. It's not much, but you can eek out a living using your brain.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:15 No.3597941
    I think your pic covers it, bra.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:16 No.3597947
    Go to /k/ and ask them advice on joining the military.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:16 No.3597948
    if you have no debts and only owe cost of living stuff, go join the peace corp or amricore (idk if i am spelling those right). fills in a resume gap nicely, takes care of all of your needs as long as you stick with it, and one heck of a lot shorter and less dangerous than the military. plus you might be able to pick up some more skills. go to community college to finish a teaching degree, teach high school math or some shit.

    Helping others does actually make you feel good
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:18 No.3597959
    >relying on poker as a living
    Full retard, man. Full retard.
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)15:22 No.3597989
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    >>3597959

    lol. i actually started off just using it to pay bills while i was studying for actuary exams. i think i've probably burned that bridge with the resume gap & honestly have grown a deep hatred for wall street and insurance companies and all those pigs.
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)15:25 No.3598015
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    >>3597940

    how much does online tutoring pay? i think my best option is to figure out some way to squeak by for a year or two while i teach myself some computer programming or something & then try to get into a grad school. are comp sci fags still getting decent jobs?
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:28 No.3598028
    If you can be a decent teacher, OP, then teach HS economics.
    It's in your field, and hopefully you know what the fuck you're talking about.
    I never got a decent education as far as economics is concerned. I would have taken micro/macro in University, but there wasn't room in my schedule. The only economics class I had was a one semester course in highschool.
    Our teacher smoked weed, I swear. And all we did was color maps and graphs. We didn't even make maps and graphs; we fucking colored them. And this was "economics honors."
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:30 No.3598040
    >>3597941
    I don't get it.
    Does OP need to become a bigot?
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)15:38 No.3598078
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    >>3598040
    i believe he was telling me to kill myself :*(

    i've considered it
    >> Science !!V9NwDn3l+KQ 08/20/11(Sat)15:42 No.3598095
    >>3597908
    The economy went to shit in August, 07.

    You never had a chance.
    >> Science !!V9NwDn3l+KQ 08/20/11(Sat)15:43 No.3598102
    >>3597940
    Seriously, what makes you think OP is even smart?

    Outta college, he decided his best career path was poker...

    POKER
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:46 No.3598120
    >>3598078
    You want to kill yourself.. because you don't have a job?
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:46 No.3598121
    >>3598102
    Not only that, but it's the only thing he's ever been passionate about.

    It's an hero time, son.
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)15:46 No.3598123
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    >>3598028

    i hate economics and would rather stock shelves at a supermarket then teach intro econ to high school kids. the entire field is bullshit based on bullshit smothered in more bullshit. let me sum up my experience in university.

    freshman year: lol graphs and equations iz hard. if you can solve 2x+7=5 then you are guaranteed A's in these courses.

    sophomore year: forget everything we taught you in freshman year, none of it is correct. lulz moar graphs and equations. if you can find the derivative of 3x^2 you will get A's in these econ classes.

    junior year: hah fooled you again, forget everything we taught you so far. here is how economics actually works. write a paper on how manufacturing was moved to outside the US and why we aren't on the gold standard and you will get an A.

    senior year: lulz we totally fucked with you. no one has any fucking clue how economics works and even econ phd's disagree on even the most fundamental theories of economics. sometimes one theory is applicable and other times another theory is applicable and basically there are so many variables you can go fuck yourself. just pretend you know what you're talking about and say what politicans and businesses want to hear and they'll pay you. good luck with your careers and thanks for that tuition money, faggots!
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:49 No.3598140
    Download public domain content, make packs of it, sell it and hire referrals to sell it for you (and pay them 25% of the profit for each sale). Wonderful business without working. I developed this technique myself.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:51 No.3598146
    >>3598123
    So is it that you disagree with what they taught you, or that you're so immature that you can't deal with reality once it was revealed to you?
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)15:52 No.3598153
    >>3598102

    haters gonna hate. i was well on my way to 6 figures playing about 25 hours of poker a week from my computer. i never intended it to be a long term career. in a perfect world i would have saved up enough money to start a small business and then go with that. i took a risk and got hit pretty hard.

    a few of my friends have moved out of the country to continue playing but i dont really want to do that. thailand sounds creepy & in order to move to the UK or canada i have to get a full time job which kind of defeats the point of moving to play poker.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:56 No.3598186
    >>3597908
    They banned it in like, 2004, which made it very difficult to transfer funds into poker accounts, so I was pissed that I couldn't farm money on fulltiltpoker. Then, you say this, and I fucking see a DoJ seizure on the website.

    Don't worry, they're going to bring online poker back, except only major casinos are going to be allowed to do it. Maybe the libertarians have something right about government-created monopolies.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)15:58 No.3598197
    >>3598102
    >butthurt faggot doesn't know how to use play poker effectively
    >doesn't think it's a game of skill
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)15:59 No.3598203
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    >>3598146

    neither, false dichotomybro. they came to the correct conclusion which is that there are way too many variables and that the assumptions they use in their theories are probably incorrect. as far as "not being able to deal with reality"... lol wtf are you talking about? its a bullshit pseudo science. it would be like studying physics for 4 years then they pull the rug out from under you and tell you calculus is actually flawed and gives you wrong answers and everything you have been studying is complete bullshit. there doesn't really exist a suitable analogy because there isn't anything else quite like economics.
    >> sage 08/20/11(Sat)16:02 No.3598217
    >>3598153
    >in a perfect world

    You mean in a world where you weren't an idiot?
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:02 No.3598225
    Why not play real life poker?
    >> sage 08/20/11(Sat)16:03 No.3598229
    >>3598197
    >Can't read sentences
    >Thinks poker is a career

    Why don't you just go back to scrounging change out of vending machine slots. I heard its a lucrative skill to have.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:05 No.3598238
    >>3598203
    This is my exact point. If physics, in the 4th year, was like, HEY GUYS, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, there would be a (hopefully) small group of students who would throw their hands up in disgust and drop out. The rest, being well-adjusted and capable of nuanced thought, would take in this new reality and adjust their understanding of the world and of physics.

    As I suspected, you were one of the loser dropouts who can't deal with nuanced thought. Sounds like you need to go into some kind of black-and-white work, like accounting. Or, preferably, like i said in my first post: do the rest of us a favor and swallow some lead.

    tl'dr: /sci/ spends way too much time talking to a non-scientist about a not-science
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)16:12 No.3598258
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    >>3598186

    you're referring to the port security act or whatever it was called. they were passing a bill to help keep out DEM EVIL TERRORISMISTS and some closeted gay faggot republican snuck in his anti gambling bullshit to appeal to his christian retard base.

    it made it hard to deposit for a few months but then they got it sorted out. i believe the law was that US banks couldn't deal directly with gambling companies. so the poker companies just used a middle man. it seemed like a legit loophole but everyone knew that they were operating in a legal grey area. but for fucks sake we had full tilt poker and poker stars advertising on day time TV and sponsoring the WORLD SERIES OF POKER for years. lol the whole thing is just so bizarre.

    meanwhile billionaire hedgefund managers gambled with american's 401k and pension money, lost, and then were bailed out by the US gov. not a single person even got demoted.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:17 No.3598270
    OP. There are a lot of people smarter than you who desperately need new kidney or liver. Think about it. Do you have a gun? Did you submitted a statement of will?
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:17 No.3598274
    >>3598258
    http://www.alternet.org/drugs/151135/american_banks_%27high%27_on_drug_money:_how_a_whistleblower_bl
    ew_the_lid_off_wachovia-drug_cartel_money_laundering_scheme?page=entire

    don't forget this shit
    you know
    drug laundering is not as bad as poker "laundering"
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:20 No.3598281
    >>3598274
    >>3598258
    >>3598186
    watch the pokerfags QQ about how they can't leech of the stupid anymore!

    >We can't make a decent living off of doing nothing, bawww
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:21 No.3598284
    >>3597908

    Physical labor or come up with a great idea. Think of something simple that would help us in day to day life. What is something humans do not have that we need or would help us.
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)16:23 No.3598293
    >>3598238

    lol butthurt science fag. i didn't drop out, so you're attacking a straw man. also i pointed out that the physics analogy is horribly flawed, but you still went on to use it.

    i think a better analogy would be something like psychology. or better yet, imagine trying to model someones behavior using math. basically its just complete bullshit. you don't have to look too far to see how much bullshit it is. imagine a world in which the head of the fed, ben bernanke, said something as retardedly wrong in 2005 as that there was no housing bubble. there couldn't be a housing bubble because housing prices have never dropped! this is the world we live in. a world where politicians and corporate interests might as well dictate policy because thats what jesus christ told them to do. oh wait... didn't bush say... boajdffjdkajfdkal fuck it im just gonna kill myself.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:23 No.3598294
    >>3598015
    I made 10 bucks an hour talking to my laptop about science. Not the best, but certainly could be worse. Enough to pay the bills and give time to study the valuable stuff.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:24 No.3598297
    >>3598293
    That's really for the best.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:26 No.3598304
    >>3598293
    Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_psychology
    >> sage 08/20/11(Sat)16:27 No.3598307
    >>3598297
    Yeah, it'd certainly help our unemployment numbers.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:27 No.3598308
    >>3598153

    Not to worry OP you can come and live in my frontroom in England for £35 a week with everything apart from your own food covered.
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)16:28 No.3598315
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    >>3598281
    >watch the pokerfags QQ about how they can't leech of the stupid anymore!

    lol fair enough. maybe i'll just study a bit more math and go work for wall street. then i'll really be contributing something to society!
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:30 No.3598321
    go play in a casino and get some sunlight you pussy
    >> sage 08/20/11(Sat)16:36 No.3598346
    >>3598315
    Theres the ticket!

    I'm finally glad someone knows theres no difference between online poker and economic markets.

    >Takes great skill, to bilk, swindle and bluff your way intto wealth.
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)16:41 No.3598371
    >>3598346

    the difference is people play poker for entertainment. hedge funds, on the other hand, are gambling with and causing instability in the value of people's pensions, 401k and life savings.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:43 No.3598381
    >>3598333
    >Takes easy way through life
    >fails miserably
    >hurrhurrhurr you guys are smug

    Stay classy, OP.
    >> sage 08/20/11(Sat)16:43 No.3598383
    >>3598333
    Perhaps some of us actually did sometthing after we graduated, OP.

    Also, you're fucked cause every year a new round of graduates flood your field, and no one wants to hire you when your major accomplishment was stealing candy from babies.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:43 No.3598384
    >>3598293
    The human brain is the most complex thing in the known universe. Now scale up one human brain to 6 billion different ones with different thoughts, education, wealth, and status all interacting in a vastly complex and interconnected society while trying to learn as much relevant information to make the best economic decisions for themselves. This is economics. There are some absolutes, but the economy is very much a chaotic system. The best "economists" are those who can see an underlying force or trend at work through all the chaotic noise, and position themselves to profit from it.

    What did you think economics would be like?
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:45 No.3598390
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    >>3598309
    This. Join the fucking navy, you can still be lazy and fuck with idiots while getting a steady paycheck.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:47 No.3598402
    >>3598371
    Oh, you don't think hedge fund managers get a rush of adrenline everytime the stock market tanks and they try to reassert their positions and gain an extra million dollars before the computers realize that the market is lower?

    Seriously, theres no difference.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:49 No.3598416
    >>3598384
    Its no different than poker.

    6 societies sitting around a table, with a limited number of good and bad resources, and depending on where the resources are and what the current bid is, you gett winners and losers, and they bluff, bilk and try to confuse one another to take the pot.

    Just cause you spent billions of man-hours ttrying to understand the intricacies, doesn't make it more complicated than poker. I could say the same thing if we assumed a level of neuroscience that goes into each player.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:52 No.3598434
    >>online poker

    go play real poker
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)16:56 No.3598451
    >>3598393

    You can get a good job with an econ degree if you're not some unmotivated, crybaby like the op.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:00 No.3598473
    I don't want to read the whole thread, but what College did OP go to? Perhaps he just went to a really shitty one.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:01 No.3598475
    >Join army
    >Live on the streets, travel your whole life, use CouchSurf
    >Craigslist, sell shit or look for jobs
    >suck penis for cash
    >Become a criminal
    >Live with your family
    >Become a welfare whore
    >an hero

    that's all I got
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:01 No.3598476
    >>3598473
    He obviously went to a shitty one if his idea of a career path was playing online poker.
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)17:04 No.3598487
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    lol thanks for the replies faggots

    im coming down off amphetamine & i think it made me overly emotional and depressed. anyway, the majority of you guys really are massive douche bags. why would you guys be mean to a person reaching out for help? and on an anonymous messageboard? whatever. interesting thing is even though my life is massively fucked up right now its still probably better than yours. i'm smarter than you & will figure out a new way to make money without working too hard. enjoy the butt jelly.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:06 No.3598498
    >>3598487
    Enjoy being a worthless pile of human garbage for the rest of your life.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:08 No.3598503
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    Pic related, it is OP after his parents kick him out.
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    >>3598487
    Probably cause we see you douchebags when you're getting rich on roulette and you act like some how you're not just arbitrarily winning at the game of life.

    You know, it's the whole fact that we know you're really just a dumb fag, but can't prove it when you've won some short term lotttery.

    gg.

    /thread
    >> OP 08/20/11(Sat)17:14 No.3598526
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    just to clear it up before i go. went to a good state school but far from ivy. i started applying for jobs in sept 08, oct 08 was when AIG and the entire economy almost imploded. i then studied and passed 2 actuary exams and was probably on my way but then i started making about 4k a month playing poker. soon i was making more. later faggots.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:17 No.3598535
    >>3598526
    I can putt numbers in excel too!@ PLEASE HIRE ME OP!

    >oh well, back to gold farming
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:21 No.3598552
    I feel for ya OP, I graduated at the top of my class and I can't find shit.

    anyone talking down on you is just riding his high fucking horse because he's still in undergraduate research methods and he thinks he's special

    these assholes that think unemployment is some sort of myth really don't understand how the market functions
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:22 No.3598554
    >internet pokers

    hahaha, get yourself a real job, like grinding gold in World of Warcraft and selling it on ebay
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:26 No.3598575
    >>3598552

    youth unemployment is around 25% which is pretty fucked up. its going to keep getting worse as universities continue to churn out more people who feel entitled to 30k+ a year salaries but no job skills other than being able to read and write at a college level. then the student loan bubble might burst, worsening the economy even more & all while babbys boomers are retiring and using medicaid and collecting social security checks. this upcoming decade is going to be interesting.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:34 No.3598594
    >economics
    >easy major

    where the fuck did you get this idea from?

    Economics has a shitload of career opportunities too.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:35 No.3598597
    Are you seriously telling me there are no online poker sites now?

    >so even though online poker still exists in a legal gray area, it has been wiped out.
    > still exists
    > been wiped out
    So you can't do it without laundering money safely? Big deal, learn2bitcoin/online currencies. Or better yet, get some real skills instead of wasting time gambing.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:44 No.3598627
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    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:44 No.3598628
    >actuary exams

    go be an actuary then, what the fuck are you complaining about?
    There are a lot of people with no degrees in a similar position.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:44 No.3598630
    >>3598575
    if the youth can't find opportunity, they're going to take it from the baby boomers who fucked them over in the first place in their quest for leisure.

    interesting indeed.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:48 No.3598646
    >>3598552
    I understand how the job market operates:

    >Learn useless B.A. degree, realize no one has been hiring B.A. degrees since the 70's. Start whining, crying and begging people to hire you because you're white and privileged.

    Sound familiar?
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:52 No.3598662
    >>3598526
    i jelly

    what blinds did you play?
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:53 No.3598668
    I know a guy who just graduated in May with an Economics degree and had a consulting job lined up for him before he even graduated. My guess is that OP is a lazy sack of shit, and didn't plan on actually having to sell himself to a company in order to get hired. Then again, my friend graduated Summa Cum Laude and interned at the Federal Reserve, so that might have had something to do with it.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:54 No.3598672
    Get a manual labor job. Nothing wrong with that.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:54 No.3598674
    >>3598668
    Yeah, having a realistic outlook on reality helps you get a job.

    OP just can't explain why he's retarded.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)17:58 No.3598691
    I have a bachelor's degree in math, magna cum laude, multiple academic awards. I am now working in a bakery.

    Sometimes, you have to take what's available.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)18:00 No.3598703
    >3 year resume gap

    "Self employed"
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)18:03 No.3598713
    >>3598703
    >So what did you do Anony?

    Oh, I just ran a complicated divend re-investment scheme where I milked poorfags out of money.

    >You're hired!
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)18:06 No.3598732
    >>3598646
    lol

    and what do you do, genius?

    inb4 big guy starts talking about his 12 inch epeen
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)19:44 No.3599122
    >>3597908
    You stop being a faggot, work harder and go to graduate school, then you beat the other thousand faggots going for the same job because you have a Masters.

    If you only get a bachelors you shouldn't go to college at all save a few select degrees that change with the market.
    >> Anonymous 08/20/11(Sat)22:45 No.3599977
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    >i had been raised in a time when people got paid to be well spoken, college educated and white.

    Well I suppose you were just simply a victim of a perpetrated mind set made by people with inflated ego's who had no desire to learn pratical or sustainable skills that could actually grow with you in time rather then on a wim.

    But then that would be too presumtuous of me now wouldn't it?

    Whatever I'll get to the point, heres what you could do to help that resume.

    -join a nonprofit organization
    -volunteer for some youth group, maybe business related
    -Join the military "like an anon eairlier has sugested"
    -apply to another college, maybe community maybe state
    -take part in economic projects and competitions online
    -make friends online do some social networking for small opportunities relevant to your interest.
    -start your own project or research article. Then post it on a blog be it personal or community and get some traction there.

    Thats it really, if you're willing to invest some time and effort maybe lady luck will show some goodwill and help you out a little.



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